WoW ClasSiC [2019] DiScuSs

[Chortles Snort|eS]

ME baReLy haV tiMe for EVERQUEST but, ME curiouS ToO knO hoWW WoW ClasSiC [2019] turN ouT?!!

GuEsS mE aSkin fOre elF oPinIonS PLS?!!

[Chortles Snort|eS]

https://i.imgur.com/hpmVEii.gif

[Mblake81]

some servers have a 25k player que and a wait time of 300+ Minutes

some dude is going to hit 60 today apparently he said and has 100k streamers.

9th degree black belt virginity

over 9000

[Evia]

Im having fun. Queues were a little insane the first and second day but I think with the new servers launched it's ironing itself out.

[aaezil]

Wait in a 5 hour queue for a game you pay for every month...

GG blizzard

[Nuggie]

The more popular servers had pretty bad queue's. The less popular ones were in the 2-3k range.

I didn't play WoW until about 2007 when the starting areas were ghost towns. This is a much more pleasurable experience.

The players diving in and out of groups solely to get "their" part of whatever quest they are working on is highly annoying after exp groups in EQ lasting for hours as opposed to minutes in WoW. This is going to make it hard to build any type of community in the early game.

[Mblake81]

The players diving in and out of groups solely to get "their" part of whatever quest they are working on is highly annoying after exp groups in EQ lasting for hours as opposed to minutes in WoW. This is going to make it hard to build any type of community in the early game.

So it begins again..

[Wonkie]

someone named "wet nappy chan" is streaming this with 15k viewers

:(

[NegaStoat]

I finally rolled on Smolderweb as there's no queue and it appears to run with medium load off hours, high load during pacific prime time. I also tried out Deviate Delight but the lower pop is an issue and there's server side latency preventing me from chaining spells properly and having a longer looting / selling delay. I'm not having that problem being a CA resident playing on a pacific time server.

Meh, it's fun. It's real classic, with all of the NPC's doing the proper scripted actions that most Mang0s based private servers couldn't get right. Like the tauren warrior circle duel in Bloodhoof village or any of the orc children related scripting in Barrens. I do have a few Macro discoveries to relate though, if anyone is curious and playing the game.

On Mang0s based private servers using the Supermacro addon you could set up a HUGE amount of conditional macros that could do 2, 3, or even 4 things in proper sequence with the press of a button. Classic retail doesn't allow for this. The intent that's coded in is that one button will only ever do one thing, or one of two different things with some limited conditions. A condition of "if ability A is not on cooldown, do A - else do ability B" was not allowed, but here's the fix.

#showtooltip
/dismount
/castsequence Overpower
/cast Heroic Strike

The above macro will dismount you if necessary and then send 2 cast commands at the server at the same time, read in order of the lines - Overpower received to be performed first, and Heroic Strike. The game will attempt to Overpower first and then skip to Heroic Strike instead with one button press. As you can imagine, this is incredibly useful for warrior PvE leveling / grinding.

[Orionsaight]

Relatively early in wow I didn't have much brain power; so I hated it. but it would be interesting to see what it would be like to play it again. Ive played modern wow a bit and it isent that bad. Still seems like a McVideogame to me a bit.

[Nuggie]

How do you plan on building a community full of selfish stay at home weirdos who never go outside?

Answer: you cant

Not with that game and the mentality of those people you can't.

[Shrubwise]

From my pal who is playing Classic WoW:

https://i.imgur.com/lEygTyMh.jpg

A picture is worth 1,000 words.

[Tethler]

From my pal who is playing Classic WoW:

https://i.imgur.com/lEygTyMh.jpg

A picture is worth 1,000 words.

Yeah, back when I no-life'd WoW, that kind of thing was fine. Get home from work, jump in queue and go cook/eat dinner. Nowadays, I barely have time to play MMOs 2 nights a week for 2-3 hours total. Not gonna deal with queues.

[Kayso2]

Just logged in to 398 people and 3 min queue. I'm on a "Full" server. I don't think the queues (note: there's no apostrophe in "queues" you morons) have been that bad since day 2-3. We'll see what the holiday weekend is like.

[Mead]

I time it right and login with teamviewer from my phone. Let the queue tick while I’m at the gym, out, or at work. Ezpz.

Hope this helps.

[Chortles Snort|eS]

mE liFt HeaVy axE!! no nEed elF gYm!!!
did Me TeLL U me strOnK?
Me StrONK!!

[Insomnia]

I ended up rolling a Tauren Warrior on Deviate Delight (rppvp) level16 so far and it has a nice population imo, not huge but not dead. Can actually get quests done without having 50+ people hold mob spawns.

[Jibartik]

I just watched this video on like doing bard AOE but with a frost mage (https://youtu.be/hqKjds4LqQU), I might log in to try this see if I can get to 60 without getting tired of it.

Looks like there may be 1 or 2 decent game mechanics in WoW after all.

[bomaroast]

Where is the ignore function for users? This OP with meme'd out typing method is not making my visit to the forums pleasant.

Edit: found it. Go to the user profile page and click on the "User Lists" drop down.

[Mblake81]

Can actually get quests done without having 50+ people hold mob spawns.

Nice, don't have to compete with them. On to the next spot solo.

[Jibartik]

Where is the ignore function for users? This OP with meme'd out typing method is not making my visit to the forums pleasant.

Quiet with your incessant whinging.

https://i.imgur.com/MSqBx98.png

[Orionsaight]

I just watched this video on like doing bard AOE but with a frost mage (https://youtu.be/hqKjds4LqQU), I might log in to try this see if I can get to 60 without getting tired of it.

Looks like there may be 1 or 2 decent game mechanics in WoW after all.

I remember getting mad that I couldn't level my character with just battlegrounds. I liked battlegrounds.

[Jibartik]

I remember getting mad that I couldn't level my character with just battlegrounds. I liked battlegrounds.

I really loved whatever their like first generation battlegrounds were. I know they like added some new mode that I never played but pre any first expansion I played the arena battleground capture the flag thing, the two forts, with some huts and forest between them? I played that like a thousand times. That was basically all I did that was so fun!

[Cecily]

So is this the way I'm going to waste my mid-30s like I did with my late-20s here?

But for real, I've tried to play WoW about 3 times now and never made it past lv 20. I'm not hardcore enough for quest-based leveling. As one of my Cabal Online guildies put it so eloquently, "I got sick of being the NPCs' bitch."*

Is it weird I way prefer grinding? Stuck with lineage II over this game and think I made a good choice. How are the castle seiges in WoW?

*This is an interesting view on how this young man and, I presume, many other men see women. That statement roughly translates to I got sick of being treated like a woman. Woman in this context means one who does things for others, aka servant. Humanity kinda sucks and this is why the women are going to kill you all when asexual reproduction technology goes mainstream.

[Evia]

So is this the way I'm going to waste my mid-30s like I did with my late-20s here?

But for real, I've tried to play WoW about 3 times now and never made it past lv 20. I'm not hardcore enough for quest-based leveling. As one of my Cabal Online guildies put it so eloquently, "I got sick of being the NPCs' bitch."*

Is it weird I way prefer grinding? Stuck with lineage II over this game and think I made a good choice. How are the castle seiges in WoW?

*This is an interesting view on how this young man and, I presume, many other men see women. That statement roughly translates to I got sick of being treated like a woman. Woman in this context means one who does things for others, aka servant. Humanity kinda sucks and this is why the women are going to kill you all when asexual reproduction technology goes mainstream.


Actually it's been discovered that the most efficient way to level in wow IS grinding. Also, in classic wow its very common to finish quests and be too low for the next batch of quests, forcing you to need to grind mobs anyway.

[Cecily]

Oh, that's good. I just know I was completely burnt on reading paragraphs of blizzard staff fanfiction about why this or that particular elf really needed me to bring them a specific number of stolen pastries which could be cut out of the corpses of the area's wildlife.

[Orionsaight]

So is this the way I'm going to waste my mid-30s like I did with my late-20s here?

But for real, I've tried to play WoW about 3 times now and never made it past lv 20. I'm not hardcore enough for quest-based leveling. As one of my Cabal Online guildies put it so eloquently, "I got sick of being the NPCs' bitch."*

Is it weird I way prefer grinding? Stuck with lineage II over this game and think I made a good choice. How are the castle seiges in WoW?

*This is an interesting view on how this young man and, I presume, many other men see women. That statement roughly translates to I got sick of being treated like a woman. Woman in this context means one who does things for others, aka servant. Humanity kinda sucks and this is why the women are going to kill you all when asexual reproduction technology goes mainstream.

I hear people insult people by calling them, "children" and no one cares about that.

[Cecily]

I hear people insult people by calling them, "children" and no one cares about that.

Won't someone think of the man children?

[Cecily]

I'm just gonna chalk that up to being unable to empathize with or otherwise understand people who experienced a different set of circumstances in life! Everyone without a million dollars is just lazy imho, and it has absolutely nothing to do with capitalism capitalizing on vulnerable people and keeping them in a perpetual state of poverty to maintain a de facto caste system.

I'm trying to get this dispensary job atm. Friend friend of manager and probably not getting it still, but keep your hopes up for me please!


Back on topic, I've decided that Humans are the best race aesthetically and will no longer be playing night elves.

[Orionsaight]

its a shame that's why the majority of reincarnations point that hell is basically forever. Just trying to hold on my .01 percent reincarnation... if you want to call it that.

[Cecily]

Good luck! I think I'm pretty close to being out of the cycle, if people calling me an old soul counts for anything at least.

[Wonkie]

Is this worth playing if you don't intend to raid?

[Evia]

Is this worth playing if you don't intend to raid?

I think so. Back in the day I never did any raids or dungeons and I felt like I had too much I was trying to accomplish. This go around I want to experience the raids, but you can certainly enjoy the game without it.

[caveslug]

Is this worth playing if you don't intend to raid?

You could do the PVP grind if they added it.

[Smuuglie]

Bullying on Grobb, hit me up! (horde obviously)

[Smuuglie]

Is this worth playing if you don't intend to raid?
If you dont like raiding and dont like end game pvp, it can still be fun just with the amount of dungeons there is to do and gearing u can get outside of raids.

Also raids like MC or Onyxia are nothard

[Wonkie]

The only thing to do on classic wow is raid, unfortunately you are looking at a lot of hours spent leveling and grinding quests. Raiding is the reward, why would you want to play if you dont raid.

So I could grind the bird things and chimeras in azshara

Like back in the day :o

[Evia]

The only thing to do on classic wow is raid, unfortunately you are looking at a lot of hours spent leveling and grinding quests. Raiding is the reward, why would you want to play if you dont raid.

For the journey?

[Jibartik]

For the journey?

classic eq? yes! Classic wow? No thanks. After doing nost I realized that wow is the same quest, over, and over, and over and over and overoveroveroverovero

I did a little bit of this classic new server and my body had a reflex like it was encountering food that gave me food poisoning once before. It jsut felt like, wrong.

Idk I like raiding in wow but to grind there again, and to pay for it while I do it.. just sounds like fool me once shame on cant fool me again. :cool:

[Swish2]

The only thing to do on classic wow is raid, unfortunately you are looking at a lot of hours spent leveling and grinding quests. Raiding is the reward, why would you want to play if you dont raid.

It's that, pvp rank grind or... the old EQ favorite, trade your way to success ^^

[caveslug]

It's that, pvp rank grind or... the old EQ favorite, trade your way to success ^^

If they keep the raids 40 man, and the same. I couldn't imagine trying to get 40 muppets together to raid them not now days.

Even then I remember the pvp grind being more hardcore back then, but maybe that's just me.

[NegaStoat]

I have to admit, I'm having a lot of fun with the retail classic experience. The subscription fee has kept a lot of the 3rd worlders away, and I'm a fan of memes so I fit in with the current player base. The strange thing is that I'm not feeling a lot of 2004 nostalgia, with part of that having to do with my experience as a Kronos private server staff member. Instead, the game just feels like a better MMO experience where folks are having to jump through hoops and really earn stuff all over again.

The funny thing is, tank players are a LOT smarter now with their approach to the game. Warriors & bear druids are leveling to the upper limit of a dungeon instance, forming their own groups with level limits so they ensure an easy run, and select DPS / healing classes in a way that doesn't contest their getting the loot drops that might interest them. That, and they load up on quests and just run the instance ONCE. Or perhaps a couple of times to get that key drop they really want from Scarlet Monastery or something.

This means that DPS / healing classes that get overlooked from the tanks that form their groups are having a MUCH harder time getting into an instance in comparison to 2004-2005. I'm really curious how Blizzard will address this. It isn't bothering me since I'm leveling a Warrior and a Shaman, and the Shaman is capable of tanking content up to Mauradon if I really push it. But for everyone else, it must be sucking.

[Jimjam]

Just had my first wow classic experience (and indeed first wow experience)!

Found signing up for the subscription and installation process rather clunky, but thought it was cool to be able to load the game from a partial download.

Was unable to create a gnome warrior called Jimjam, so settled for a Barbarian Shaman (okay, human paladin) called Gincide, my original EQ character.

Did a few quests, but honestly there was a lot of running around and the rewards were pretty poor; I'd get better xp and loot from doing a couple of extra kills instead of running around.

Met up with some old EQ friends, they showed me the way to a large city. Checked out the auction house, but apparently was unable to bid as I had a 'starter edition' account, even though I had just paid a subscription fee. Took the train to dwarf lands and fought some Wendigo (yheti beastmen) in their ice tunnels.

Was fairly entertaining, kind of wish I had streamed or screen capped my initial experiences, it felt a lot like being an EQ newb again; not really knowing what to do and just running around exploring in a sand boxy way.

Cancelled the subscription after logging off, but I may give it a couple more tries before the end of the month is over.

[Wonkie]

Just had my first wow classic experience (and indeed first wow experience)!

Found signing up for the subscription and installation process rather clunky, but thought it was cool to be able to load the game from a partial download.

Was unable to create a gnome warrior called Jimjam, so settled for a Barbarian Shaman (okay, human paladin) called Gincide, my original EQ character.

Did a few quests, but honestly there was a lot of running around and the rewards were pretty poor; I'd get better xp and loot from doing a couple of extra kills instead of running around.

Met up with some old EQ friends, they showed me the way to a large city. Checked out the auction house, but apparently was unable to bid as I had a 'starter edition' account, even though I had just paid a subscription fee. Took the train to dwarf lands and fought some Wendigo (yheti beastmen) in their ice tunnels.

Was fairly entertaining, kind of wish I had streamed or screen capped my initial experiences, it felt a lot like being an EQ newb again; not really knowing what to do and just running around exploring in a sand boxy way.

Cancelled the subscription after logging off, but I may give it a couple more tries before the end of the month is over.

Classic is a dropdown menu from the Version field on WoW battle.net launcher

Retail is bad, you wouldn't be able to go on a classic server on a starter account

[Jimjam]

Oh i managed to select classic. I guess my account was just glitched cos that was the error i was getting when attempting to use auction house on classic.

My client today cancelled and the spot i had for my other job isn't available today. I don't want to be lone working without my spot so looks like i got a day off to play more wow classic.

[Swish2]

If there's EQ players complaining how slow classic wow levelling is, the world must have got more impatient since 2004 ^^

[Mblake81]

If there's EQ players complaining how slow classic wow levelling is, the world must have got more impatient since 2004 ^^

I am patiently awaiting the Age of Conan classic server so I can log in and run around a bit, remark how the graphics have improved on MMORPGs then log out and uninstall.

Then just two more years after this I can go find the classic emulator for the classic emulator P99 server.

[Jimjam]

If there's EQ players complaining how slow classic wow levelling is, the world must have got more impatient since 2004 ^^

I'm not complaining; i have no other wow experiences to compare it with.

Just the quests at the start were generally not worth the time.

Happily the bug that was blocking me from bidding in auction house is resolved so i am able to waste all my copper on inconsequential rubbish.

[Bristlebaner]

It's fun. This thing has legs.

[Evia]

Yeah, I honestly can't believe just how much fun I'm having. I haven't been excited to come home from work and log on to a game since the original EQ days back in high school. I keep thinking eventually the enjoyment will fade off but the more I play the more I want to play. On Sunday my wife took the kids to her friends for a kids play date and I had all day to play. I logged in at 8am and logged off at 7pm. Usually that long of a session Id feel guilty or shitty but I've got no ragrets! Not even a single letter.

My night elf hunter is lvl 28 and climbing! My server has numerous people lvl 50+ and I've seen one lvl 60. I feel like I've been playing hard but these people have really been doing the work.

[Jibartik]

If there's EQ players complaining how slow classic wow levelling is, the world must have got more impatient since 2004 ^^

Idk grinding EQ feels so much less stupid than it does in wow for me for some reason.

I think it's because you setup shop and getting to a camp is a challenge and feels like a victory just getting there let alone grinding at when playing EQ

Well that sums it up for me actually.

[Mblake81]

Idk grinding EQ feels so much less stupid than it does in wow for me for some reason.

I think it's because you setup shop and getting to a camp is a challenge and feels like a victory just getting there let alone grinding at when playing EQ

Well that sums it up for me actually.

That is part of what WoW and some other MMORPGs went about solving as it was seen as a problem. The time, organization and know-how was just too involved. The key here is involved. The raids in WoW might be involved and I suspect that is why the level up is short and was looked over in later expansions. Same thing happened to EQ, 1-20 zone where everyone spawns and finish in 4 hours.

Cut out all of the player cities, forget its a RPG and focus on flavorless 'video game' that makes it more simple and easy.

Imagine being a Human Rogue player in Qeynos or Freeport trying to find their guild on release day of EQ.

[Jibartik]

That is part of what WoW and some other MMORPGs went about solving as it was seen as a problem. The time, organization and know-how was just too involved. The key here is involved. The raids in WoW might be involved and I suspect that is why the level up is short and was looked over in later expansions. Same thing happened to EQ, 1-20 zone where everyone spawns and finish in 4 hours.

Cut out all of the player cities, forget its a RPG and focus on flavorless 'video game' that makes it more simple and easy.

Imagine being a Human Rogue player in Qeynos or Freeport trying to find their guild on release day of EQ.

Yeah I agree with blizzard with all of their complaints about classic everquest, and by far most of their solutions are great.

That said, Instances are stupid and terrible. Running one 50 times in a row, is not superior to killing something that re-spawns 50 times in a row, and its the exact same, I mean THE exact same, every time, while its a challenge to maintain a camp for 50 spawns and with other players entering and exiting the area, a wildly different and magical experience.

So they failed on fixing that issue.

https://i.imgur.com/zxBfPqt.gif

[Swish2]

The way to grind it in WoW is to kill shit between running to and fro to hand quests in... you feel like you're supposed to run past all the trash mobs to hand things in... but actually you need to kill everything all the time if you want to grind out enough gold for your mount at level 40.

[Mblake81]

So they failed on fixing that issue.

Maybe there was nothing to fix and the problems are what made it interesting.

[Jibartik]

The way to grind it in WoW is to kill shit between running to and fro to hand quests in... you feel like you're supposed to run past all the trash mobs to hand things in... but actually you need to kill everything all the time if you want to grind out enough gold for your mount at level 40.

Nothing makes grinding more fun, than making it feel like it's standing in the way of the easy exp you'd be getting, if it wasn't for all these mobs you had to grind through.

Man that's 2 points for everquest, lets keep em coming boys!

[Chortles Snort|eS]

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me ThInk mE plAy eQ rONG on lIve n OnlY noW me getS it

[Crawdad]

someone named "wet nappy chan" is streaming this with 15k viewers

:(

Moonmoon_OW is a treasure. One of the few big time streamers without a cam and is actually entertaining. Also he's an old fat 30 y/o dude like the rest of us.

[silo32]

Dunno i did free trial im not feeling it everquest is superior to wow

god bless

same