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purple server for pvp players
just like green for the nerds this october
maybe seasonal pvp realm with transfers to the main realm after each season
can anyone here call in some huge favors to do this?
(also willing to consider ransom and/or kidnapping inbox me)
quido
07-26-2019, 02:10 PM
All the best PVPers are jeremyquesting it currently
Seungkyu
07-26-2019, 02:18 PM
Think I saw the population last night and it was Blue: 1054 Red:54
Who knows how many of that are boxers.
From what I can see, Red is ultimately a failure. That isn't to say there weren't good times on the server, it just pales in comparison to it's Blue counterpart.
The problem with Red is that it doesn't have a long lasting appeal like Blue. The main reason being that Red attracts griefers who actively enjoy taking the enjoyment out of someone else's gameplay.
Some people say it's cause you suck at EQ pvp, git good and this is exactly the type of mentality that turn people off.
If anything you should try for a Teams PVP server because I really doubt Red will ever come back on P99 like it did in the past. Why would it?
quido
07-26-2019, 02:23 PM
PVP community is small and split among a number of boxes.
fan D
07-26-2019, 06:13 PM
there is and has always been almost none to zero griefing going on for levels. SOmetimes you'd run into one. You camp out for 30minutes and come back and its over.
Sinaa
07-26-2019, 08:26 PM
I’ve been on red for just over a couple of months. I have seen a few pvp fights so far and only griefed for about 30 mins because I entertained it. Once I was done, I was able to out zone him, run to a corner to camp. He remarked, great, you have a faster connection than me just before I logged of. Waited 3 mins, logged in he was gone. I continued the grind. I’m only level 40 to date but super casual. Just play maybe 8-10 hours a week in bursts. I love it so far.
Seungkyu
07-26-2019, 10:55 PM
I'm talking about a new PVP server, in this instance when Red was new. Before LnS
Fan D, Sinaa, imagine the population was 17 times larger. The rate of PVP, and the length of time you would be camped would increase exponentially~. I've been corpse camped multiple times over 5 hours by people I've never* met before.
Don't worry, I definitely believe you guys aren't being hardcore camped on a server with 50 population.
Samaritan
07-27-2019, 09:52 AM
I'm talking about a new PVP server, in this instance when Red was new. Before LnS
Fan D, Sinaa, imagine the population was 17 times larger. The rate of PVP, and the length of time you would be camped would increase exponentially~. I've been corpse camped multiple times over 5 hours by people I've never* met before.
Don't worry, I definitely believe you guys aren't being hardcore camped on a server with 50 population.
So, you're only here to whine about the past and tell us how terrible Red is? Got it.
I'm talking about a new PVP server, in this instance when Red was new. Before LnS
Fan D, Sinaa, imagine the population was 17 times larger. The rate of PVP, and the length of time you would be camped would increase exponentially~. I've been corpse camped multiple times over 5 hours by people I've never* met before.
Don't worry, I definitely believe you guys aren't being hardcore camped on a server with 50 population.
Why would you let someone corpse camp you for over 5 hours? And multiple times lol.
Sinaa
07-27-2019, 12:22 PM
I understand that with a lower pop there is a lower chance but in the end, it’s fun regardless. The ups and downs make for fun times and stories. No matter what game you play, there will always be griefers. I’ve done it TZ when I was younger, it is what it is. Would be cool if there were more people here but it’s also nice to be able to relax and semi afk solo camps at times. Just my two cents I reckon.
Why would you let someone corpse camp you for over 5 hours? And multiple times lol.
i'm gonna go with "suck at eq" and "git good" remarks he made above.
Seungkyu
07-27-2019, 12:41 PM
So, you're only here to whine about the past and tell us how terrible Red is? Got it.
bitch please :rolleyes:
Why would you let someone corpse camp you for over 5 hours? And multiple times lol.
I...I played a Paladin on a PVP server. :confused:
Just my two cents I reckon.
Thanks for your two cents. As long as your enjoying the game I think it's great. :)
Dont care
New server would bring in at least 100 potential new players
130 pop > 30 pop pvp server
Can you imagine thread anyway haha
What if they just dropped it teams pvp server with item loot
backburner slow play of the decade
I would get a p99 tramp stamp if that happened
bitch please :rolleyes:
I...I played a Paladin on a PVP server. :confused:
Thanks for your two cents. As long as your enjoying the game I think it's great. :)
Doesnt matter the class. You can log out for 20 minutes, come back and then person is most likely gone. Then go find somewhere else to exp.
kotton05
07-28-2019, 12:46 PM
Doesnt matter the class. You can log out for 20 minutes, come back and then person is most likely gone. Then go find somewhere else to exp.
make an alt
Worry
07-28-2019, 07:46 PM
I've played Blue since 2011-2012ish, and have tried getting into red on multiple occasions. Just never enough pop to make it enjoyable.
If there's a new pvp server I'd play it, especially teams. But once you move to Kunark - the world gets too big and the population is too small, unfortunately.
Videri
07-28-2019, 08:51 PM
The main thing that makes me want to play Everquest PvP is stories like Nath and Jeir (http://www.eqclassic.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1891) and Blart (http://www.notacult.com/swampd.htm). Unfortunately, they existed on RZ, where the majority of the population were anti-PKs like <Peace of Formosa> that didn't really seek out pvp and didn't even gear for pvp. According to these stories, only dedicated PKs would focus on magic resistance gear. Everyone else was susceptible to root and blind. These days, people that don't really love PvP just play on a blue server (me too, currently) and those that want to be PKs play on a red server...and they stack magic resistance, and they like to PK, and so on.
Therefore, there is no longer an environment like the one Nath/Jeir/Blart were in. I guess the experiences they had are impossible these days. I'm not going to be the littlest wolf trying to prey on the sheep...I'm going to be a noob against 20-year EQ pvp vets. I had fun on Red99, though. I'd give it another go on a fresh server.
Seungkyu
07-28-2019, 11:51 PM
Doesnt matter the class. You can log out for 20 minutes, come back and then person is most likely gone. Then go find somewhere else to exp.
No. I'm saying I logged out for 2 hours, came back and the person was still there. Log out for another 3 hours, came back the person is still there. I'm not sitting in game 5 hours, I'm talking about grabbing something to eat, taking a shower, and watching an entire movie. Come back. The guy is not afk. He is still. there.
At this point I call it a day. That shit is way too hardcore for me, I have no idea if these type of guys are on the spectrum, roleplaying, trying to make a world record I don't know but I'm done.
The main thing that makes me want to play Everquest PvP is stories like Nath and Jeir (http://www.eqclassic.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1891) and Blart (http://www.notacult.com/swampd.htm).
I didn't know about these, definitely worth a read. Thanks for the links :)
Zuranthium
07-29-2019, 12:43 AM
Those were great stories, the Nath + Jeir one especially. But yeah...unfortunately that environment is gone. That's why the game code needs to be changed for a server like p99 though; it's just impossible to get a lot of great interaction with the mechanics that exist and everyone being "in the know".
Seungkyu, were you killed at a very important camp or something? I've not had an experience like that at all and I find it extremely hardly to believe someone would corpse camp you for 5 hours if they weren't also there to camp an item. Anyway, there's something called "Loot and Scoot" that was implemented, so the issue you're talking about was dealt with.
Videri
07-29-2019, 05:02 AM
I know, right?? The Nath and Jeir one is so cool. Just a wizard and enchanter, taking advantage of hapless adventurers. And as for the Blart/FoH ones, I suspect Salem drew some stylistic inspiration from them.
Maybe what the next PvP server needs is a big guild of anti-PKs. We need a <Peace of Formosa> type guild. They would constantly endeavor to police the highways of Norrath, keeping the PKs at bay, which would allow a significant bluebie population to develop. These, in turn, would be the prey that sustain the PK life.
White_knight
07-29-2019, 05:31 AM
I know, right?? The Nath and Jeir one is so cool. Just a wizard and enchanter, taking advantage of hapless adventurers. And as for the Blart/FoH ones, I suspect Salem drew some stylistic inspiration from them.
Maybe what the next PvP server needs is a big guild of anti-PKs. We need a <Peace of Formosa> type guild. They would constantly endeavor to police the highways of Norrath, keeping the PKs at bay, which would allow a significant bluebie population to develop. These, in turn, would be the prey that sustain the PK life.
C u in Pantheon (2025)
Zalaerian
07-29-2019, 12:28 PM
Half are playing RoZ half are playing Devnoob
Zero are playing red
Half are playing RoZ half are playing Devnoob
Zero are playing red
Might give Roz a try. Havnt playes eq emu in over a year. How many people play on Roz and what expansion are they up to?
Seungkyu
07-29-2019, 07:37 PM
I've not had an experience like that at all and I find it extremely hardly to believe someone would corpse camp you for 5 hours if they weren't also there to camp an item.
Were you there at the beginning of the server? A lot of people quit in droves due to this kind of behavior. The population on Red was close to a thousand!
One example I recall was in the Ocean of Tears. Multiple Holocaust members were camping an island the boat passes by.
They were nuking people through the boat with levitation/sow, then ganging up on those who ran on the island.
This was the one I logged off to eat and watch a movie. Ports didn't exist yet, and there was even xp loss...but I needed my combine two handed sword to kill ghouls dammit.
Many of those people on the boat permadied, lost forever at sea. Soon I see Holocaust members complaining the server population is dropping fast. :confused:
I became casual and joined a guild called <Fresh>, but that's another story for another time. Cool story bro.
Tassador
07-29-2019, 07:49 PM
This guy is so mad about eq pvp game style in 2019. Bet he still sucks at the game. So happy they don’t reset this so I can rest. You better believe this shit opens up again and all you blue queens are dying off.
Seungkyu
07-29-2019, 08:02 PM
This guy is so mad about eq pvp game style in 2019. Bet he still sucks at the game. So happy they don’t reset this so I can rest. You better believe this shit opens up again and all you blue queens are dying off.
Your so mad, but then say I'm the one who is mad. Then you say your happy, start insulting me, then randomly insult all blue server people as transgenders :confused:
You okay?
Tassador
07-29-2019, 09:53 PM
Lol what? Queens aren’t transgenders btw. Not saying queens can’t be transgenders. Frankly don’t give a shit about people’s presences especially on a video game built for kids that people latch onto 20 years later!
Don’t delete my stuff bro!
Better believe if they reset this shit i am coming here to fuck your world son.
Videri
07-30-2019, 01:43 AM
Your so mad, but then say I'm the one who is mad. Then you say your happy, start insulting me, then randomly insult all blue server people as transgenders :confused:
You okay?
You can't make sense out of nonsense.
Swish2
07-30-2019, 06:50 AM
C u in Pantheon (2025)
2025? Optimist.
Swish2
07-30-2019, 06:51 AM
Lol what? Queens aren’t transgenders btw. Not saying queens can’t be transgenders.
Nice to have an expert on the forum.
Nirgon
07-30-2019, 02:12 PM
The main thing that makes me want to play Everquest PvP is stories like Nath and Jeir (http://www.eqclassic.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1891) and Blart (http://www.notacult.com/swampd.htm). Unfortunately, they existed on RZ, where the majority of the population were anti-PKs like <Peace of Formosa> that didn't really seek out pvp and didn't even gear for pvp. According to these stories, only dedicated PKs would focus on magic resistance gear. Everyone else was susceptible to root and blind. These days, people that don't really love PvP just play on a blue server (me too, currently) and those that want to be PKs play on a red server...and they stack magic resistance, and they like to PK, and so on.
Therefore, there is no longer an environment like the one Nath/Jeir/Blart were in. I guess the experiences they had are impossible these days. I'm not going to be the littlest wolf trying to prey on the sheep...I'm going to be a noob against 20-year EQ pvp vets. I had fun on Red99, though. I'd give it another go on a fresh server.
Peace of Formosa/Peacebreakers was very much a PVP guild.
Only people truly good at PVP risked their gear fighting. Which is why the devs who won't implement things they can't personally handle/don't want to play don't do it here and on other servers.
As far as Jeir/Blart, I haven't checked all their stories but don't see them taking down any big names. The best take away is that pets and NPCs should be nigh immune to CC with resist buffs as NPCs typically had lower stats numerically and buffs would provide a greater effect on them.
Most ppl here would be bagged and wearing no drop.
But who cares about a classic experience?
Zuranthium
07-30-2019, 05:29 PM
As far as Jeir/Blart, I haven't checked all their stories but don't see them taking down any big names. The best take away is that pets and NPCs should be nigh immune to CC with resist buffs as NPCs typically had lower stats numerically and buffs would provide a greater effect on them.
If that's your takeaway from the story, then you have no soul or understanding of what really makes open world PvP exciting. It's not about stupid superficial YT's or robotic data. (well, maybe ur a robot)
entruil
07-30-2019, 09:47 PM
Only people truly good at PVP risked their gear fighting. Which is why the devs who won't implement things they can't personally handle/don't want to play don't do it here and on other servers.
As far as Jeir/Blart, I haven't checked all their stories but don't see them taking down any big names.
Most ppl here would be bagged and wearing no drop.
I was always so scared to lose any gear, I would bag and die and the antis would come back and giv me droppables when I was looting lol... My exp was antis always pkd... All my droppables came from pvp... I wasn't max level and cutting the edge I just played the game and loved it aka blown away.... Stuff like even pumices was beyond me back then I def used some cloudy pots tho.... here I Was disillusioned by the rz level ruleset with no item loot , had no reason to level past 20 deleveled from 25/24.... I like a nirgon post tho seems like he down the same lane... Lot more to say and sense to make but don't matter (sip (https://youtu.be/LmqACAxg2jI))
Shout out to the backwards man who was outvoted...
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