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bradsamma
07-10-2019, 03:53 PM
Ok, at what level do warriors start doing better DPS with stuff like frostbringer/first of zek/bloodpoints over weapons like the staff of battle?
Or should a warrior just start looking to pick up a better 2h weapon?
theonesler
07-10-2019, 04:02 PM
Around 40 is when I made the switch. I'd say because until that point holding aggro in a group wasnt as important as later levels. Also, more aggro weaps proc at later levels so your options are more diverse.
Also, in your 40's is when DW dps will start to beat out 2hand dps due to your primary dmg bonus increasing.
Hope that helps!
Snaggles
07-10-2019, 04:23 PM
What's your dual-wield skill? Maxed out (at 60) you prob have best a 75% chance of the offhand swinging. At level 40 it's much lower than that.
Are you looking to DPS like as non-MT on raids or are you mainly looking to solo/duo 40+? If so there are other reasons a good 2h is more appealing than duel-wield for this. Bigger ripostes, less mob ripostes, less concern about damage shields, being able to joust (ie: Oggok Cleaver), your riposte disc in the early 50's. Etc.
I'm not sure what combo you would want in a non-tanking role that would outdamage something like a Reaver at 60; probably NTOV drops though. Triple attack with a 40dmg sword and chances for crits/crips is pretty legit. Especially once the 2h patch lands, if it ever does.
Troxx
07-10-2019, 06:12 PM
High 40s to low 50s seems to be the break point. When in doubt download Gamparse and you can monitor your dps in real-time with a heads up display.
Keebz
07-12-2019, 03:10 AM
The exception to the rule is of course Wurmslayer. Combined with a decent off-hand, it should start out parsing Staff of Battle in the early thirties. Also, like the 2 handers, you'll want to switch it out with something faster mid 40's.
wagorf
07-15-2019, 06:37 AM
if i remember correctly, 37 or 38 is where dual wield starts doing better than 2h (staff of battle vs. frostbringer/wess)
Budder
07-18-2019, 09:17 AM
So at level 20 should I be duel wielding (Jasthar Trident and green jaded broadsword) or 2hs (Shieldstorm or Fellhammer)? A 60 warrior gave me the two 2hs but really haven’t used them much.
bradsamma
07-18-2019, 09:30 AM
Use staff of battle at 20.
Budder
07-18-2019, 11:09 AM
Use staff of battle at 20.
Really? What makes it so special? I can’t see spending 300-500 on that (I don’t have that plat either for one thing lol)for something with no stats also because it’s 2hb. Wouldn’t warrior be better served with 1hs or 2hs with AC and Str stats over that or is it just because of the DLY/DMG ratio? Isn’t the warrior bread and butter 1hs or 2hs mainly?
Legidias
07-18-2019, 11:24 AM
Dont worry about stats on weapons. Ratio >>>>>>>> stats. Reaver would still be 10k+ without stats.
Staff of Battle is an amazing ratio item for super cheap. You can use it as DPS even in raids post 50+ (when you dont want your DW proc weaps out)
Warriors will want to train all your weapon skills (well, maybe not piercing). As a tank, you will probably DW your proc weapons. In a raid as non-tank, you can get very nice DW weapons, but they are costly and a cheap staff of battle or (relatively cheap) reaver will do comparable DPS.
bradsamma
07-18-2019, 11:37 AM
Really? What makes it so special? I can’t see spending 300-500 on that (I don’t have that plat either for one thing lol)for something with no stats also because it’s 2hb. Wouldn’t warrior be better served with 1hs or 2hs with AC and Str stats over that or is it just because of the DLY/DMG ratio? Isn’t the warrior bread and butter 1hs or 2hs mainly?
Because it's amazing for the price. And no, you shouldn't even care about stats, especially strength, on a weapon sub level 60.
It'll absolutely be your best agro/dps option until your 40's at this price range. At level 40 you can start using a frostbringer but that costs 2k. For 3k you can wield a WESS at level one for good agro.
And why are you so focused on using slashing weapons? They're not any better in the game generally than other options.
bradsamma
07-18-2019, 11:38 AM
Dont worry about stats on weapons. Ratio >>>>>>>> stats. Reaver would still be 10k+ without stats.
Staff of Battle is an amazing ratio item for super cheap. You can use it as DPS even in raids post 50+ (when you dont want your DW proc weaps out)
Warriors will want to train all your weapon skills (well, maybe not piercing). As a tank, you will probably DW your proc weapons. In a raid as non-tank, you can get very nice DW weapons, but they are costly and a cheap staff of battle or (relatively cheap) reaver will do comparable DPS.
Nardani's and infestation:p
Budder
07-18-2019, 01:12 PM
Good info, thank you for that!
Budder
07-19-2019, 09:15 AM
Staff of Battle it is then. I’ll get a couple more levels in unrest and try to scrape up some moneys for one. Now that I’m aware of it I see a lot of people recommending it. And then at 40 the WESS and Frostbringer. So are 2HS weapons even worth going for in the future? A warrior gave me a Fellhammer and Shieldstorm, which had nice stats (I’m kinda a stat whore). Should I sell them for Staff of Battle or would I be better served by using them at some point?
Benanov
07-19-2019, 11:00 AM
My opinion is that you should work all of your skills. This served me pretty well on Live, where one had no clue what was coming in the next expansion.
Here, the rules are a little different - the "set" of all possible weapons is bounded, but the ones you have access to change.
I found a decent 1hb that was better than everything else I was using - and was glad I had trained blunt at lower levels so I wasn't starting at zero.
jolanar
07-19-2019, 02:51 PM
+1 for working all weapon skills while leveling. At least until your mid to late 30s. Gives you something else to do while leveling as well besides looking at exp bar.
Zipity
07-19-2019, 05:04 PM
I have a staff of battle you can have Monday when I’m online next
Budder
07-19-2019, 07:36 PM
I have a staff of battle you can have Monday when I’m online next
That would be awesome, thank you! Name is Semperfi. I’m currently in Unrest. I’ll be on a little this wknd, more so Sunday but will look for you Monday evening.
wagorf
07-22-2019, 04:02 AM
staff of battle, super value for the price, and is good until 37 or 38
if you can get a frostbringer/wess, those will start to perform better after 38 in terms of dps and aggro
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