Powerleveling price check

[Abominog]

What's the going rate for, say, 1 to 20? And how fast should those levels go to be considered a real PL?

I'm thinking about PLing for plats but need to know the lay of the land first.

[enjchanter]

Powerleveling can be hard to come by so the market isnt clearly set. Best thing is to just gauge what the levels are worth to you. They are going to charge you what they think their time is worth.

As a power leveler, I would probably do that job for 4k having an epic bard since it would probably only take a couple hours and wouldnt be tough to do at all but that might be more or less than someone else would. So it's all relative.

[Legidias]

Also depends which class. For 1-20, you will want someone who can non-dmg AE aggro and very highly DS themselves. So basically enchanters or bards.

A monk trying to pl you 1-20 will take a looong time. Even a druid still takes way longer than the above.

Average rate for 1-20 is about 4k. Just dont do it in warrens (lul), unrest, or kurns

[Xulia]

It may be faster to simply look up a Bone Chips quest and get to lvl 10-12 that way. It took my HUM PAL ~40 stacks (400pp @10p/stack) worth of Bone Chips to go from 1 to 12, so you can skip a lot of the leg work there.

Anecdotal observation; people usually hire PL services to get 52 locks or lvl 46 planar-trackers up as fast as possible, and at those 35+ level ranges you would need an experienced Bard to get the most out of your time. Most of that time will be spent in Overthere which is perfect for swarm kiting since it's very open and chock-full of mobs.

[Jimjam]

I use the bone chip index of 3600 XP per platinum piece.

Edit: that works out as about 2kpp for completing levels 1-19 (ie hitting twenty).

[gutterbrain]

I think it took me roughly 95 stacks of bonechips to get 1-15 if thats an avenue you want to look into.

[Mblake81]

I am a business man and my time is extremely valuable. I am looking to purchase a shortcut for this game so that I can skip the parts common folks occupy. I will have one of my men contact you to set up the appointments. I am also looking for a games professional for hire to pilot the dragons & dungeons, I am offering $7 per hour.

Edit: If EQ was a new title you wouldn't have to ask for this. You could purchase a MTX to do it, probably offer several packages for your convenience. The game sucks and you will want to skip it to play the game.

:P

[Abominog]

I am looking to purchase a shortcut for this game so that I can skip the parts common folks occupy. The game sucks and you will want to skip it to play the game

Ha. Actually I agree with you. For me PLing is lame and I'd rather just play the game. But I want plats and have a character that I think I can PL with, so I wanted to find out what's what.

[Legidias]

I wouldnt joke about RMT in the current climate... (or you know, explicitly state you want to pay someone with real money for game services)

[Mblake81]

I wouldnt joke...

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[iflytoohigh]

Even a druid still takes way longer than the above.


i can level someone up as a druid pretty quickly. agro with lowest level fire spell. it does 10 damage. as ling as the person getting PL'd does 11 or more points of damage to each mob, then it's all gravy.

find an off hour in unrest and you can do 1-20 in a couple hours. maybe less. i would charge 2k. i charge 1k/hour for PL sessions.

[enjchanter]

Ha. Actually I agree with you. For me PLing is lame and I'd rather just play the game. But I want plats and have a character that I think I can PL with, so I wanted to find out what's what.

This is an over simplified summary of PL'ing in my own humble opinion:

Bards : best PL'er , can do all the way to 60 if they desired. You can aoe non damage aggro, silly DS stacking potential, regen and every other tool in the book

Druid: can probably take you up to 40ish before it just becomes out of group duo which is probably the loosest version of a "powerlevel" you can feasibly describe. Really just heal snare thorns is all you need

Enchanter: aoe non damage aggro, runes, some neat DS stackability but ultimately, I think you need somewhat decent gear to do this past like level 15 and it's still basically on par with druid imo.

Flop PL (necro monk): slowest , most tedious method. FD class nearly kills mob, you have to finish it off. Only works with 1 mob at a time. Not really even a PL, I wouldnt pay for this service but if a friend offered to do it, then sure I'll participate. The monk will get a red con mob to 5% and it starts fleeing while you furiously try to do 5% damage to the red con mob on your low level wizard with no skills or mana whatsoever and then the other half the time the monk / necro will accidentally kill the mob before scenario one can ensue.

The real draw of powerleveling is being able to use a high level bard. If you're not using a high level bard then you're already only capable of PL'ing for roughly half the total levels in the game and not even the profitable half. You can charge by the hour but I feel this is not a good way to operate if you are a sane person. Imagine the effort of PL'ing someone and know you still have 48 minutes before you get another tick of 500p.

This my 2cents on PL's

[Rang]

druid can do 1-20 in acouple hours easily if you know what you're doing. they can do 1-30 pretty efficiently after that you'll need a bard

[Legidias]

Im not saying a druid is slow. Im saying mass AE aggro and DS is better. Druids get the DS part but not the non-dmg ae aggro. 10 doesnt seem like much damage, but when its a lvl 1-5 and mobs are upper teens, they will miss 90% of the time and do 1 dmg 10% of the time.

[White_knight]

A 60 druid with DS gloves, clicky regen, clicky snare, clicky sow, and ring and semi decent gear can PL to low 40s no problems.

I've done it.

But post level 30 it slows down rather fast. 1-30 I would say is optimal druid PL range. 30-40 rather slow but 100% doable.

Clicky snare gloves are used to pull with and provide a nice non dmg agro component also good for pulling a bunch of mobs in as the already agroed mobs are slinking toward you now beating on you as you stop to pull.

Druid PL efficiency comes in the form of clickies and avoiding using as much mana as possible aka limit the med times.

[Legidias]

you dont expend any mana really as bard or enchanter when you low level PL. Just 2-3 AE aggro and have them go at it. Bard uses 0 mana, enchanter maybe 5-15% (maybe more if bedlam'd)


Clicky = slow cast time, and when youre gathering 20+ mobs, that adds up.

Again, not terrible, but not the best PL. I always enjoyed druid PL when availble but by far bard or enchatner is better for that 1-20.

[Rang]

A 60 druid with DS gloves, clicky regen, clicky snare, clicky sow, and ring and semi decent gear can PL to low 40s no problems.

I've done it.

But post level 30 it slows down rather fast. 1-30 I would say is optimal druid PL range. 30-40 rather slow but 100% doable.

Clicky snare gloves are used to pull with and provide a nice non dmg agro component also good for pulling a bunch of mobs in as the already agroed mobs are slinking toward you now beating on you as you stop to pull.

Druid PL efficiency comes in the form of clickies and avoiding using as much mana as possible aka limit the med times.


This guy gets it. If you have the right clickies druids are more efficient at AE ds killing than bards bc druids can heal. Even without clickies you can still do it well but if you are pulling dispelling mobs mana can become an issue to re-ds

[ineubis]

Flop PL (necro monk): slowest , most tedious method. FD class nearly kills mob, you have to finish it off. Only works with 1 mob at a time. Not really even a PL, I wouldnt pay for this service but if a friend offered to do it, then sure I'll participate. The monk will get a red con mob to 5% and it starts fleeing while you furiously try to do 5% damage to the red con mob on your low level wizard with no skills or mana whatsoever and then the other half the time the monk / necro will accidentally kill the mob before scenario one can ensue.
This made me lol.... as an SK (not mentioned in the flop PL :cry: ) I've had this happen several times trying to "PL" a friend.... never for plat tho... lol

[Muggens]

I have a 49 enchanter in rags i never use(not played in ages) Can i PL a druid friend of mine from 24 to 30? How would I go forward? Help appreciated

[Jimjam]

Do damage with charm pet, break pet to lose attributed damage, Druid finishes mob.

You can also do a reversed version where the Druid kills the pet. Previously if you /duel you could XP off charm pets.

If that is still a feature, you can /pet guard and spam back off on your pet while the duelling Druid kills it with dots.

[Rang]

I have a 49 enchanter in rags i never use(not played in ages) Can i PL a druid friend of mine from 24 to 30? How would I go forward? Help appreciated

I forget what the equation for grouping but the best way to “power-level” him would be get him in range to group with you and duo lower guk and he will fly through levels. Enchanters can’t power level very well except like 1-15 and even then you need to be well geared and have money to burn on peridots for rune

[Lordgordon]

750pph

[stebbins99]

This is an over simplified summary of PL'ing in my own humble opinion:

Bards : best PL'er , can do all the way to 60 if they desired. You can aoe non damage aggro, silly DS stacking potential, regen and every other tool in the book

Druid: can probably take you up to 40ish before it just becomes out of group duo which is probably the loosest version of a "powerlevel" you can feasibly describe. Really just heal snare thorns is all you need

Enchanter: aoe non damage aggro, runes, some neat DS stackability but ultimately, I think you need somewhat decent gear to do this past like level 15 and it's still basically on par with druid imo.

Flop PL (necro monk): slowest , most tedious method. FD class nearly kills mob, you have to finish it off. Only works with 1 mob at a time. Not really even a PL, I wouldnt pay for this service but if a friend offered to do it, then sure I'll participate. The monk will get a red con mob to 5% and it starts fleeing while you furiously try to do 5% damage to the red con mob on your low level wizard with no skills or mana whatsoever and then the other half the time the monk / necro will accidentally kill the mob before scenario one can ensue.

The real draw of powerleveling is being able to use a high level bard. If you're not using a high level bard then you're already only capable of PL'ing for roughly half the total levels in the game and not even the profitable half. You can charge by the hour but I feel this is not a good way to operate if you are a sane person. Imagine the effort of PL'ing someone and know you still have 48 minutes before you get another tick of 500p.

This my 2cents on PL's
Love this detail and input! Regarding Necro PL:

For lower level PL, would it be feasible for a necro to PBAOE a bunch of mobs (ie max 25 mobs) and then FD once they're all about 5%? Would have to exercise caution / pick correct PBAOE so as to not kill the mobs, of course.

I haven't PL'd a ton on my necro but definitely see some potential with the FD approach, perhaps utilizing PBAOE might get around the "one mob at a time" factor?

[Foxplay]

I forget what the equation for grouping but the best way to “power-level” him would be get him in range to group with you and duo lower guk and he will fly through levels. Enchanters can’t power level very well except like 1-15 and even then you need to be well geared and have money to burn on peridots for rune

Enchanter can power level 40 to 60 decently only cause enchanter charm solo/duo will out exp a full group pretty easily

[honeybee12874]

Enchanter can power level 40 to 60 decently only cause enchanter charm solo/duo will out exp a full group pretty easily

Interesting.... time to go interrogate my boyfriend about why he hasn't been using his Enchanter to Powerlevel me :D

[Legidias]

Love this detail and input! Regarding Necro PL:

For lower level PL, would it be feasible for a necro to PBAOE a bunch of mobs (ie max 25 mobs) and then FD once they're all about 5%? Would have to exercise caution / pick correct PBAOE so as to not kill the mobs, of course.

I haven't PL'd a ton on my necro but definitely see some potential with the FD approach, perhaps utilizing PBAOE might get around the "one mob at a time" factor?

No because your low level person wont be able to kill that last 5% in time before they all disperse. A lvl 1-5 trying to kill a red con at even 1% takes forever.

[Abominog]

Enchanter can power level 40 to 60 decently only cause enchanter charm solo/duo will out exp a full group pretty easily

Going off of that, here's a couple untested variations for enchanter PLing post 15ish:

(1) Enchanter charms a monster, has it fight a second monster, when pet is 10% release it. Then use elemental illusion+damage shield+stun technique while lowbie tags the former pet. Do the same on the second monster. Using the experience table and ZEMs (https://wiki.project1999.com/Experience_table) It might be possible to ensure the max experience gain of 11% from each.

(2) Enchanter charms a strongish pet and drags it to an area with weaker monsters. Buff it with haste, give it a couple weapons then release and root. Continually charm nearby weaker.monsters and release as they get to 10%, then finish them using the DS/stun aggro technique. This should hopefully go faster than the first idea.

Thoughts? Could this compete with bard PL or still too slow?

[Zipity]

Bards bards bards for example I can PL a pbaoe class from 35 to 46 in 3hrs good luck getting that speed with another class

[Nuggie]

There was a bard with a fairly high profile a few years back that had a detailed PLvling service in his Sig. Can't recall his name right now. His numbers would be a good resource to tap into if someone could remember his name...

[Teppler]

Back in Chardok days I always felt the only people that could possibly offer faster PL than my necro was the AOEs. Chanters can do the same thing. I've heard some tales of Monks doing some impressive upper level PL as well.

[tristantio]

As a 60 necro, flop PL is actually decent - I don't do one mob at a time, up until the PL target is > 50, it works quite well to root rot 4 or so level 45 mobs and as long as they can hit them with a ranged weapon attack (arrow or throwing dagger) for 1 damage, they get full Xp as splurt kills them with enough leeway to get the tag on all.

When a level 35 is doing the tagging, this gets capped xp (6%) x 4 mobs, so about 24% of level per round (which is about once every 5 minutes in a good zone).

[Tethler]

Druid PL is slower for sure, but one upside is into the 20s-30s when the PL receiver starts tanking the mobs with thorns, they'll be able to cap out their offensive and defensive skills compared to sitting afk with a bard.

[Halfcell]

I have a 49 enchanter in rags i never use(not played in ages) Can i PL a druid friend of mine from 24 to 30? How would I go forward? Help appreciated

24 to 30 is doable probably. Depending on the druids mana pool you can AoE PL for a bit, just tag a shitload of level 25 mobs and stun them while the druid AoEs them down. Keep DS's up as well so anything that resists stun, which will be rare if they are 25 and you are 49, still takes damage. Easier on a wizard or mage though, since their PBAoEs are a bit more efficient. PLd my own wizard this way on Agnarr and it worked great.

Sol A is a good place to start.

[Legidias]

Yeah, don't PL in Sol A (or you know, any other zone thats usually packed with XP'ers in lvl range)

[Blingy]

Sol A is a good place to start.

No, just no.

Find an out of the way place that doesn't get a lot of traffic. Sol A may not have the numbers that Mistmoore has at this level but still plenty of people group up here.

My general rule of thumb for pl'ing and getting pl'd is if there's more than one actual xp group in the area move out.

[Halfcell]

Yeah, don't PL in Sol A (or you know, any other zone thats usually packed with XP'ers in lvl range)

Packed is a pretty serious overstatement regarding Sol A. Eight or nine times out of ten you will be alone in that zone. Of course, never ever put yourself in a position as a powerleveler to be stealing mobs from or in any way impeding the experience of level appropriate xp groups.

I just suggested Sol A because the xp is great, the mobs are dense and easy to gather, and it's not very packed most of the time.

[Legidias]

You and I have had very different experiences in Sol A if you find it empy half the time. There is almost always a group doing goblins due to the xp being great, mobs being dense / easy to pull, and money. The same reasons why you like to PL there.

[fadetree]

Befallen be best, followed by Unrest.

[Tecmos Deception]

As a 60 necro, flop PL is actually decent - I don't do one mob at a time, up until the PL target is > 50, it works quite well to root rot 4 or so level 45 mobs and as long as they can hit them with a ranged weapon attack (arrow or throwing dagger) for 1 damage, they get full Xp as splurt kills them with enough leeway to get the tag on all.

When a level 35 is doing the tagging, this gets capped xp (6%) x 4 mobs, so about 24% of level per round (which is about once every 5 minutes in a good zone).

XP cap isn't 6%, at least it wasn't as of a few days ago when I did a mail quest on a level 1.

[stebbins99]

I believe he's saying that once the recipient (of the PL) hits *lvl 35*, they can only attain a max of 6% exp per kill. Up to that point, you can definitely get more exp per kill/quest/etc

[Keza]

Druid with fungi tunic/staff whose knowledgeable about what they are doing is the fastest 1-20. People keep mentioning damage for threat and that makes bard better.. well.. two snares holds plenty of aggro for virtually no mana and the PL'ee only needs to do 1 damage. They are presumably not using a 1/50 weapon considering they are buying a PL. Even a starting dagger would do, or carry around a cheap fast weapon that everyone can use and no one would steal.

As for price that depends on how much both of you value your time and how quickly you can PL. Two hours for 4k seems cheap. I've never bought or sold a PL but I've done it plenty for friends and it's so boring that it actually siphoned my desire to play EQ away. I wouldn't PL someone to 20 for 4k, but I'd definitely pay 4k for a PL to 20. So then the cost must be worth more. Again though it depends on the PL in question.

The most difficult part of PLing 1-20 is the traffic though. Ideal zones with undead aren't even worth going to since a single fungi'd melee represents half the zone being cleared. You have to get creative there in finding out-of-the-way spots and dealing with fleeing mobs. That doesn't mean you can't go to a dungeon, you just gotta know the spots and get a little lucky. This part is why I never even considered PL'ing for money. Your plans go to pot when a fungi'd monk 8 levels higher than a camp is farming it.

On that point TIL people go to SolA now? I quit a little over a year ago and you had to basically threaten to kill someone to get them off the xp highway, and even when you did they'd bail quickly. If SolA was a bad spot to PL in it would be from the painful nukes and high amount of weirdly plump (male) goblin ass. Never tried the gnomes since I wanted my faction.

[zanderklocke]

There was a bard with a fairly high profile a few years back that had a detailed PLvling service in his Sig. Can't recall his name right now. His numbers would be a good resource to tap into if someone could remember his name...

Hi.

I honestly haven't tried power leveling since they put in the cap on how many mobs can be hit by PBAOE.

For those that are still power leveling, how much has this affected the time to level someone? I would think there's a pretty big difference in speed to level someone when you used to be able to do like 80-100 mobs at once in a zone like FV vs 20 something mobs now when they were casting their PBAOE nuke.

[Legidias]

You're still not understanding. When you PL 1-20, you arent single pulling mobs with a snare. You want to mass aggro then. Casting snare twice through 25 mobs = way too much time spent per pull. On bard, I ae aggro probably 40-50 mobs by snaring one bunch then grabbing a whole nother kite and snaring them. Then bring them all in.

You don't need undead as long as the mobs are on similar faction or social. If even 2 mobs are up, they don't flee even at 1% hp.

People have always gone to Sol A. Its stupid good XP and money (where else are you going to go at ~23 where everything drops FS / ores with super high ZEM and low hp mobs?). Its just that a year ago, high leveled rogues and monks would sit in there to kill everything for blocks of ore to make plat.

[Blingy]

Gonna necro this thread due to the last week or so of shit.

On Friday night I logged on and found a group in Kurns pretty quick. We were happily killing skeletons for maybe 30 minutes.....then an asshole came into our area and pulled every mob on the top couple of floors. Yea, this sucked. No response to tells, ooc or anything. We'd occasionally get a skeleton but after getting around 10% of a level in an hour our group broke up.

Saturday night nearly the same thing happened except we were in the basement. This time the druid was nice enough to come by and buff the hell out of our group. Problem being if there's no mobs to kill that PotG and regrowth is pretty fucking useless.

Last night was a slightly different scenario. Turns out if a twinked to hell and back monk with high level shaman buffs wants to pull the entire barracks they can; same goes for the top floor. Congratulations monk, you can screw up an xp grind for a group.

I'm not sure if this stuff is petitionable but if it keeps happening plan on having your PL sessions disrupted.

[Legidias]

If they have over 4 mobs, you are free to take some. Overall, its zone disruption though and petitionable.