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Breton
07-06-2019, 09:25 AM
Hey guys, looking to roll and twink out a warrior and I'm debating pretty hard between Barbarian and Iksar.

Not much interested in any other race.

Like the slam and stats of a Barb, the regen of an Iksar.

Any suggestions on which way to go and why?

Legidias
07-06-2019, 10:18 AM
Dont do iksar for regen, do iksar for AC bonus.

If you have a fungi, either one will level super fast so just pick if you want to sell easily with slam or be hated but have better end game stats.

jolanar
07-06-2019, 11:16 AM
Keep in mind the regen of iksar doesn't really kick in until after 51.

As far as slam goes, it's trivially easy to swap in a shield and bash a caster. Slam is convenient but in the end it's not like you still can't get the same effect. Also I believe warrior kick start stunning after 55.

I'd say the choice mainly goes down to bad faction and the exp penalty of an iksar vs good faction and exp bonus of a barb.

Nagoya
07-07-2019, 10:58 PM
As far as slam goes, it's trivially easy to swap in a shield and bash a caster. Slam is convenient but in the end it's not like you still can't get the same effect. Also I believe warrior kick start stunning after 55.

As someone who has levelled twinked warriors from level 1 to 40+ about 7 times on 7 different races, I can tell you that "trivially easy" is really a not very fair statement here. Hitting level 20 you kind have to fight with a two-handed weapon if you want to have solo-able DPS. Switching weapons from a 2HX to a 1HX+Shield and then bash is slightly more annoying than what I would call "trivial". Levelling my Troll warrior was definitely much easier than the Gnome or Dark Elf. Not only to interupt, but also for the very important Bash/Slam when the mobs starts running away at 20%hp or so and it'll go fetch the whole zone unless if you could only stun it 2 second. You have to move smart and stay in the hit box but at the same time switch your 2HX away for a 1HX, then add a Shield, then hit your Bash hotkey.

This is will mean you miss it a few times. This will mean a few extra death between 1 and 55. For sure.

Racial slam for a warrior (mostly a twink warrior planning to solo) is honestly one of the most important racial ability in my experience and opinion.

To OP, for this reason and for the Cobalt set of armor, I would maybe recommend Barbarian over Iksar. However Iksar warrior is less played than Barb warrior and you'll have the originality factor. Also a better starting city and some extra quests.

And forage. Forage 50 is cool to maintain a STAT food up. Didn't do the Iksar Warrior, but I liked it on the Wood Elf heh.

Good luck have fun.

Topgunben
07-07-2019, 11:19 PM
Hey guys, looking to roll and twink out a warrior and I'm debating pretty hard between Barbarian and Iksar.

Not much interested in any other race.

Like the slam and stats of a Barb, the regen of an Iksar.

Any suggestions on which way to go and why?

Both are cool. Id go barb just because you can wear plate, plus slam, but the biggest reason is the difference in strength. I like to see big numbers when hitting, and thr closer you are to 200, the better.

Tethler
07-08-2019, 12:20 AM
Barb looks sexy af in plate. Iksars always look like hobos (halflings too)

Troxx
07-08-2019, 01:53 AM
Iksar attack animations (esp 2hs) are ugly as sin.

Jimjam
07-08-2019, 04:37 AM
Iksar attack animations (esp 2hs) are ugly as sin.

Did you download the fix to the broken iksar animations glitch?

kaizersoze
07-08-2019, 06:31 AM
troll is also a good alternative if youre looking for regen. and you get slam. And theyre easier to twink and than ikky :)

Breton
07-08-2019, 08:52 AM
Thanks for the feedback. I figured there would be more people saying Iksar regen/AC boost is OP etc. Since it seems Barb has just as much (if not more) upside i'm gonna roll with it for the sake of faction, str, sta, and slam. Thanks all!

Legidias
07-08-2019, 10:29 AM
Iksar is just the min/max choice while barbs are better overall while levelling. In full end game gear they simply have that extra bit of AC which other races dont get, as you would already be capped with str/sta at that point and slam wont mean much

Jimjam
07-08-2019, 01:51 PM
I think people are overlooking the most important aspects here; hats!

Barbarians get polar bear heads and horned helmets for number 1

2 goes to iksar for their triceratops skull thing.

Trolls take third for their unidentifiable monsterskull.

Legidias
07-08-2019, 01:59 PM
Male iksar wear panty masks so clearly #1

Expediency
07-08-2019, 10:26 PM
Any suggestions on which way to go and why?

Warrior is the only iksar class without FD or gate. If are you familiar with evil races this may not be a problem for you but if you have not played iksar before youll be hated everywhere with no way of escaping.

Halfcell
07-10-2019, 09:19 AM
Biggest drawback of Iksar is gear restrictions imo. It would get a lot better with Luclin, but we will never see it here. I don't recommend anyone roll and Iksar warrior without a full set of at least Thurg plate waiting for MQ.

Legidias
07-10-2019, 09:47 AM
Fungi + hp/ac rings + some decent weaps = you good till 40 on any melee

Halfcell
07-10-2019, 12:09 PM
Fungi + hp/ac rings + some decent weaps = you good till 40 on any melee

Yes, 60k in disposable plat to drop on twinkling any class is going to get you to well beyond 40.

Crede
07-10-2019, 03:40 PM
As someone who has levelled twinked warriors from level 1 to 40+ about 7 times on 7 different races, I can tell you that "trivially easy" is really a not very fair statement here. Hitting level 20 you kind have to fight with a two-handed weapon if you want to have solo-able DPS. Switching weapons from a 2HX to a 1HX+Shield and then bash is slightly more annoying than what I would call "trivial". Levelling my Troll warrior was definitely much easier than the Gnome or Dark Elf. Not only to interupt, but also for the very important Bash/Slam when the mobs starts running away at 20%hp or so and it'll go fetch the whole zone unless if you could only stun it 2 second. You have to move smart and stay in the hit box but at the same time switch your 2HX away for a 1HX, then add a Shield, then hit your Bash hotkey

Sorry, but leveling a troll war is not easier than a gnome due to bash, which is totally trumped by the gnome being able to 40% haste themselves.

Many people don’t realize this, OP if you didn’t know gnome war/cleric can 40% spell haste themselves which stacks with your worn haste with the clockwork armor. Not to mention it also comes with dex and str buffs that will put them above any wars dex and equal to dwarf/almost barb str. This puts them ahead of any other race by far from a solo perspective. And there’s not always gonna be a 44+ shaman or enchanter In your group.

If you know this, and still don’t care, then I’d for sure go iksar. Regen, ac, and just look badass in velious plate. There’s a 2hs animation fix as well. Barbs have slam which is nice but doesn’t outweigh iksar regen/ac imo.

Jimjam
07-10-2019, 06:58 PM
Crede how expensive/sustainable did you find maintaining your haste click while levelling your gnome warrior?

Crede
07-10-2019, 08:07 PM
Crede how expensive/sustainable did you find maintaining your haste click while levelling your gnome warrior?

I had no issues, but it all depends on your budget. I think I spent 2-3k on mana batteries and was good until level 50. For a solo warrior build, this isn't a lot of money. Maybe 200pp/hour or so to keep yourself hasted? Didn't get too technical with it. You should be gaining back at least half of that by normal solo looting in the 30s. I was also clicking str/dex which last an hour each, those are very sustainable.

Legidias
07-10-2019, 09:17 PM
50p for 10 charges

Crede
07-10-2019, 11:42 PM
50p for 10 charges

I knew my number seemed high, thought it was 50p for a charge at first, couldn't remember. So 5pp/charge for 40% haste that lasts 10-20 min depending on level. Yea... nuff said.

reznor_
07-11-2019, 12:17 AM
I went iksar and it's been pretty fun honestly. You can get by not having cobalt bracer by invis rings + mask, and shrink pots for cobalt bracer. Get thurg armor for the rest of the slots, really.

My only problem is I waffle between my iksar warrior and monk..so neither of them are 50+ ;(