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Jibartik
06-15-2019, 01:12 PM
Hey anyone else not able to install GINA on windows 10?

https://i.imgur.com/cdC4cmz.png

Downloading it here https://eq.gimasoft.com/gina/Download.aspx

but when I try to install it says that it is not trusted, and I cant figure out how to make it trusted. Everything Ive read online just sends me back into a feedback loop.

Anyone else have this problem or has this problem already been solved? I only found one thread about it on reddit from 2 months ago, it also had no solution in the comments.

Thanks! :(

bomaroast
06-15-2019, 02:18 PM
Unfortunately GINA is not provided as stand-alone software. The EQ community needs the source code or we're going to lose it.

I believe there is a registry hack that will bypass this certification check, but once the GINA website goes offline we'll lose access to GINA for good.

Jibartik
06-15-2019, 02:31 PM
There are a few home brew posts from this website. I wonder if any of them are same/better/trusted?

mcoy
06-15-2019, 06:34 PM
I use GINA on W10. You can either run the installer from an admin command prompt (you still get the pop-up about it being untrusted, but you can click "proceed anyway" or something along those lines, or edit the properties of the installer to unblock it:

Right click the file and select Properties

Under the "General" tab, near the bottom, you'll see "This file came from another computer and might be blocked to help protect this computer."

Select "Unblock" and click Apply/OK

-Mcoy

Jibartik
06-15-2019, 08:19 PM
Hey thanks!

However every time I do this, everything seems fine, but then the installer starts and the same old message appears. If I then try to do this a second time, that option is now gone from the properties. I trash that .exe file, (downlaoded form gina) and then get a new one, repeat the process. Same thing.

:(

Im going to try to install it on my laptop then maybe just transfer the folders? See if that works around this bug (security feature)

bomaroast
06-15-2019, 09:01 PM
For posterity:

Start - Run - gpedit.msc

User Configuration - Administrative Templates - Windows Components - Attachment Manager - "Do dot Preserve zone information on file attachments" set to Enabled. Restart maybe. Install Gina. Reset setting back to "Not Configured"

TripSin
05-08-2022, 11:21 PM
Initially, I had no problem with installing, running, and using GINA. Now, after like maybe a year break, I was entertaining the idea of playing some more P99, but now I'm getting the "This publisher has been blocked from running software on your machine" bullshit :(

I've tried everything in this thread and then some and still no go :( Pretty damn annoying. No way I'm coming back to play Enchanter without GINA. Sad ;_;

This is what I see when I look at the certificate:https://i.imgur.com/SGZziEY.png

Hyperbase-1999
05-09-2022, 12:22 AM
Click on "install certificate", select "local machine" and go through the UAC prompt, select the "Trusted Root Certificate Authority".

As that cert isn't changing any time soon it should stick around for you, if you want to remove it run mmc.exe, add the snap-in "certificates" and select "local machine" when prompted, expand "Trusted Root Certificate Authority", and then "Certificates" and you can browse and find the Gimasoft LLC cert.

mcoy
05-09-2022, 12:27 AM
I'm still able to access the "unblock" option on the installer, despite the certificate being expired. Where are you being hung up in the process?

-Mcoy

Hyperbase-1999
05-09-2022, 12:33 AM
Sorry, just realised i missed out a couple of steps.

1. Remove the zone info from the setup.exe file in your downloads dir by right clicking and goto properties and uncheck that box, it's pretty much there to say the file came from the internet so might be suss, once unchecked you are good to go. (i.e. what McCoy said.)

Just went through the process with Win11 and its up and running for me.
2. Install the cert to trusted root cert authority, it's not changing anytime soon so you probably wont have to repeat this step. Right click the setup.exe and go to the "digital certs" tab, select the cert in the window below and click details. Click on the "view certificate" button and then "install certificate", when prompted select "local machine" and save to the "trusted root certificate authority".

Hyperbase-1999
05-09-2022, 12:42 AM
Darn I double posted, anyway... editing this one to remove some duplicate info.

TripSin
05-09-2022, 01:10 AM
Sorry, just realised i missed out a couple of steps.

1. Remove the zone info from the setup.exe file in your downloads dir by right clicking and goto properties and uncheck that box, it's pretty much there to say the file came from the internet so might be suss, once unchecked you are good to go. (i.e. what McCoy said.)

Just went through the process with Win11 and its up and running for me.
2. Install the cert to trusted root cert authority, it's not changing anytime soon so you probably wont have to repeat this step. Right click the setup.exe and go to the "digital certs" tab, select the cert in the window below and click details. Click on the "view certificate" button and then "install certificate", when prompted select "local machine" and save to the "trusted root certificate authority".

At one point I feel like I saw the box to unblock it, but it doesn't even show up anymore. I also did the gpedit to not preserve zone information. I'm running Windows 10, but I think I did the equivalent of what you're saying for installing a Trusted Root Certification Authorities and even though it says it successfully imports the certificate, it doesn't actually fix anything for me :(

Also, it seems the GINA website is just down right now :( Thanks for trying to help but it seems I'm just not meant to be able to use it and play anymore maybe. I may not have the most legitimate version of Windows so I suspect maybe that might have something to do with it but idk.

Corso
05-09-2022, 07:11 AM
You don't need to be messing with certificates or registry keys, just go to your date & time settings, disable "set time automatically", manually change the year to 2017 or something like that (the certificate expired around 2019 I think? not sure), install GINA, and the re-enable set time automatically.

Hyperbase-1999
05-09-2022, 07:25 AM
I just checked the site, and as you mentioned it's down so i assume the .net clickonce installer had the source pointing to the site.

If you have a prompt and it mentions "your security settings do not allow this application to be installed on your computer" then that's the certificate for the setup, try the process to install the cert again but try and store it in "trusted publishers", looked fine for me in the root but maybe i missed something. (And then re-run the setup.)

If you can post the error message back i'll run a check tomorrow, if the site isn't back up maybe i'll repack the files or something.

If you do not want to play EQ then that's fine, you won and broke the cycle!

TripSin
05-09-2022, 03:22 PM
You don't need to be messing with certificates or registry keys, just go to your date & time settings, disable "set time automatically", manually change the year to 2017 or something like that (the certificate expired around 2019 I think? not sure), install GINA, and the re-enable set time automatically.

Yeah, changing the clock works! Thanks all.

TheCombatCactus
06-09-2022, 11:26 AM
I just resolved this issue on a Win 10 machine in a different way than posted above.

For me the installation went to this folder: C:\Users\PowerMain\AppData\Local\Apps\2.0\
(Replace the PowerMain with your username)
I then searched that for .exe files and it found the actual gina.exe
There you right click gina.exe, properties, and unblock. This instantly fixed it for me.

The issue is the Start Menu file is pointing to a reference file, tthat reference file then points to the exe.