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Kavious
05-17-2019, 06:29 PM
Ive been using Wavecrasher (Primary only) with Infestation in offhand. I like the double sword look and I figured this should be solid to level up with in groups.

Then one day while in a mid 40s group I had someone claim that they have one of the top warriors on the server and questioned my weapon choice. He asked what other weapons I had, which was a WESS and a Frostbringer. He told me I would have a significantly easier time holding aggro with Infestation mainhand and Frostbringer in offhand. His reason was that Infestation procs more often than Wavecrasher.

Parsing/Mathing and Min/Maxing not really my forte. So I'm curious.. Is there validity to his claim? Would Infestation/Frostbringer be significantly better than Wavecrasher/Infestation? This would primarily be for leveling up in XP groups

aaezil
05-17-2019, 06:35 PM
People like to claim that weapons have different proc rates but i think dex is the only thing that affects it

Llandris
05-17-2019, 06:47 PM
All weapons have the same proc rates in this era

MTR

aaezil
05-17-2019, 06:58 PM
Aaaand there you go

Dillusional
05-17-2019, 07:19 PM
Yeah, proc rate is based on dexterity alone.

I think it's time to sell your wavecrasher and go with infestation + frostbringer.

Jimjam
05-17-2019, 07:33 PM
In fairness, infestation does have +dex on it, ergo technically true it procs more... but barely so.

Just use 2 weapons with decent ratio in each hand, even better if they have decent aggro procs. The fine details of it really don't matter that much.

Freakish
05-17-2019, 09:13 PM
All weapons have the same proc rates in this era

MTR

Stop ruining my EQ immersion. This stuff is supposed to be secret with crazy fan theories on how things work.

Ya moran

Snaggles
05-17-2019, 10:19 PM
They all have the same proc rate per minute. Dex increases it. I believe MH averages 1ppm with low dex and 2ppm with more dex. I believe offhand is half the ppm of the mainhand.

Slow weapons will proc more on average per swing because they swing less per minute. In that regard an Earthshaker with 70 delay has a higher chance to proc per swing but the same number (average) per minute.

The reason you might have better aggro luck with the infestation primary is each proc creates more aggro than the Wavecrasher. 3 poison counters and dot > slow and magic dot.

The WESS is 4 poison counters, attk debuff and blind so its technically better than both but the ratio sucks for mainhand.

Kavious
05-19-2019, 03:13 PM
Ive heard of proc-rate mods but didnt know that type of formula was out of era so thats very nice to know

I went off This Post (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=256027) from 2016 that lists Wavecrasher above Infestation (List at post #7). These were the two highest and easiest weapons for me to obtain so thats kinda how I ended up with that setup.

Im going to try Infestation mainhand now. I'm getting the hint that offhand should be something with a good ratio vs something with a proc

Frostbringer would be better than a wess or skean in offhand?

Jimjam
05-19-2019, 04:26 PM
Frostbringer is an awesome off hand.

I actually have a spare greater dragons head at the moment so would be willing to sell you mine if you like.

Kavious
05-19-2019, 06:13 PM
Thank you for the offer, but Ive already got one. Just wasnt using it until now!

Troxx
05-19-2019, 11:08 PM
Wavecrasher is a fairly shitty and overpriced weapon.

Infestation and FB offhand is superior.

wagorf
05-24-2019, 06:30 AM
from the perspective of agggro and dmg output - wavecrasher is overpriced, and frostbringer is severely underpriced

but everyone knows that pricing on eq is never all about performance

mizzbiscuits
05-24-2019, 06:11 PM
You guys think I should hang on to my WESS/Venomaxe for now? I plan on buying an infestation loot rites/FB @ lvl 40

Jimjam
05-25-2019, 10:31 AM
Yes.

bradsamma
06-02-2019, 12:13 PM
You guys think I should hang on to my WESS/Venomaxe for now? I plan on buying an infestation loot rites/FB @ lvl 40

No warrior should ever use venomous axe at any level under any circumstances.

Bards. That is the only class that should be using them. Period.

mizzbiscuits
06-02-2019, 05:59 PM
No warrior should ever use venomous axe at any level under any circumstances.

Bards. That is the only class that should be using them. Period.

I was under the impression that it was ok to use as OH for tanking at lower levels? What should I have used instead?

Snaggles
06-02-2019, 06:51 PM
I was under the impression that it was ok to use as OH for tanking at lower levels? What should I have used instead?

The proc sucks for aggro. It’s basically just like extra white damage. IMHO Fist of Zek would be a upgrade at a fraction of the cost.

Offhand aggro maybe a WESS or https://wiki.project1999.com/Scorpikis_Claw_Impaler