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Nirgon
05-02-2019, 05:18 PM
Allowed(?)

Kavious
05-02-2019, 10:29 PM
Why would it be any different from red/blue plat trading?

d3r14k
05-02-2019, 10:44 PM
Probably not allowed (and rightfully so, in my opinion), but it will definitely happen.

Probably less in the form of blue plat to green plat and rather in the form of blue plat for a green minotaur axe or some shit.

Coridan
05-03-2019, 07:53 AM
I think the concern is more blue plat to Green Manastone.

Nirgon
05-03-2019, 11:40 AM
Ding ding ding

Oleris
05-03-2019, 11:52 AM
I asked, they said no.

Menden
05-03-2019, 12:10 PM
Thanks for the good laugh.

tylercanuck
05-03-2019, 07:21 PM
It's a valid question considering Green plat will eventually become Blue plat, correct?

DiogenesThaDogg
05-03-2019, 07:23 PM
It's a valid question considering Green plat will eventually become Blue plat, correct?

I see this said a lot, but has this ever been confirmed? I wonder if maybe green will be separate and wholly distinct from blue, even after it runs its course.

Hideousclaw
05-03-2019, 07:39 PM
Nothing has ever confirmed green will merge to blue. Its speculation, at best.

Rader
05-03-2019, 09:58 PM
I see this said a lot, but has this ever been confirmed? I wonder if maybe green will be separate and wholly distinct from blue, even after it runs its course.

This has not been addressed, at all, by the devs, it is all conjecture at this point but there seems to be only four options available:

1) If creating new servers is a big expense, AND the devs want to maintain a true Classic experience option, then most likely Green will roll into Blue when the timeline is complete and Green will then re-open back at the start, rinse and repeat..., or

2) Green could be a one-time deal, and will just end up being a second Blue, or

3) The devs are ok with three servers, and there will be a "dumping ground" server that each new Green server feeds once the timeline is complete; Blue is left untouched, or lastly

4) New Green servers open up every three years or so, and the old Greens remain separate servers left to age and bloat like Blue has ended up doing, but with their own economy and unique issues, the older servers will not be impacted by merges

Creating new servers is a bit of a pain, I am guessing, but merging is too, duplicate names, accounts with more than 8 characters, economy distortions from "green" loot dumping into a "blue" server, etc etc

I think that #1 is the most likely choice, for many reasons... but again, this was not addressed in the announcement

Saisu
05-03-2019, 11:47 PM
There's another option...

5) At the end of the Green timeline, the server is wiped, all characters are erased, and it spins back up fresh.

No need to merge with Blue.

DMN
05-03-2019, 11:51 PM
There's another option...

5) At the end of the Green timeline, the server is wiped, all characters are erased, and it spins back up fresh.

No need to merge with Blue.

6) green begins with the deletion of blue.

immaterial
05-04-2019, 03:26 AM
i'm confused on why somebody would trade an item on green for plat on blue. what value will plat on blue have for the kinds of people who are getting manastones on green?

Swish2
05-05-2019, 10:35 PM
i'm confused on why somebody would trade an item on green for plat on blue. what value will plat on blue have for the kinds of people who are getting manastones on green?

The economies merge anyway, you know there's going to be some abuse and accounts banned. Especially if you can play blue+green at the same time.

rekreant
05-09-2019, 05:02 PM
6) green begins with the deletion of blue.

This please.

Rogean
05-09-2019, 05:14 PM
You can run an EQEmu server with 2000 simultaneous players on a fucking toaster.

Let me know how that works out for you. Considerable effort went into the overhaul of various systems from EQEmu Base that prevented zones from having more than even 100 players at the same time in the early life of the server.

2000 players might be possible if it's spread out enough to a max of 50-100 players per zone, but I'd be very interested to see how eqemu servers are handling 300+ players with simultaneous raids in a zone like Temple of Veeshan. IIRC, they still have SQL Queries running in the main thread.

I could be wrong though and their code has improved much since then, but I remembered a conversation with Akkadius when they split up the player profile column, telling him they really need to DBASync their queries out of the main thread, and he said it wasn't necessary.

rekreant
05-09-2019, 05:16 PM
Let me know how that works out for you. Considerable effort went into the overhaul of various systems from EQEmu Base that prevented zones from having more than even 100 players at the same time in the early life of the server.

2000 players might be possible if it's spread out enough to a max of 50-100 players per zone, but I'd be very interested to see how eqemu servers are handling 300+ players with simultaneous raids in a zone like Temple of Veeshan. IIRC, they still have SQL Queries running in the main thread.

I could be wrong though and their code has improved much since then, but I remembered a conversation with Akkadius when they split up the player profile column, telling him they really need to DBASync their queries out of the main thread, and he said it wasn't necessary.

why not share the superior codebase?

Rogean
05-09-2019, 07:06 PM
why not share the superior codebase?

All of my improvements were shared with eqemucoders. At this point, they are either incompatible with eqemu because of the massive difference in the code bases, or are specifically classic.

Elysium
05-09-2019, 08:05 PM
All of my improvements were shared with eqemucoders. At this point, they are either incompatible with eqemu because of the massive difference in the code bases, or are specifically classic.

How did you manage to take the base class out of /who?

So [51 Rake (Rogue)] Blahblah shows up as [51 Rake] Blahblah instead??

Nirgon
05-10-2019, 10:20 AM
C u at the manastone camp

I'll be boxing 2000 characters on my toaster

Rogean
05-10-2019, 07:48 PM
How did you manage to take the base class out of /who?

So [51 Rake (Rogue)] Blahblah shows up as [51 Rake] Blahblah instead??

Client Side, 0x7F on offset 0x41BF51.

Credit to Kanras.

Nirgon
05-10-2019, 08:55 PM
What's the offset for item loot on red

Dawg's gone, flip the switch

Squire
05-11-2019, 07:05 AM
wtb item loot on red

Nirgon
05-13-2019, 10:29 AM
Eh this isn't the first time I was right and he snubbed

Impressive he didn't turn the boxes off after all he's been through with this community though

Anyone else would have I think - very impressive

Even Daybreak had a full blown "no more PVP ever after that" meltdown

One day he might find a sense of humor about it all

DMN
05-13-2019, 11:18 AM
Eh this isn't the first time I was right and he snubbed

Impressive he didn't turn the boxes off after all he's been through with this community though

Anyone else would have I think - very impressive

Even Daybreak had a full blown "no more PVP ever after that" meltdown

One day he might find a sense of humor about it all

Just say no to drugs.

PieOats
05-13-2019, 05:24 PM
It's a valid question considering Green plat will eventually become Blue plat, correct?

EXACTLY! green-blue plat transactions are really just double-decade elf simulator futures with green characters serving as item escrow. s'all good lads. have fun!

Mazoku
05-13-2019, 05:30 PM
I don't think there will be a server merge or trading of plat allowed. Look at what happened on blue/red. We had plat trades, then scams and more. Plus if they merged the servers in two years we would be DESTROYING what is supposed to be classic. NO leave green as is, leave blue as is and leave red. If anything occurs strange maybe every 5 years wipe Green but a server merge will be the DEATH of classic and the whole point of this emulator is to relive classic not just fartstorm a bunch of classic items and then shit out endgame. The point is CLASSIC. Leave green to be classic.

DMN
05-13-2019, 11:36 PM
I don't think there will be a server merge or trading of plat allowed. Look at what happened on blue/red. We had plat trades, then scams and more. Plus if they merged the servers in two years we would be DESTROYING what is supposed to be classic. NO leave green as is, leave blue as is and leave red. If anything occurs strange maybe every 5 years wipe Green but a server merge will be the DEATH of classic and the whole point of this emulator is to relive classic not just fartstorm a bunch of classic items and then shit out endgame. The point is CLASSIC. Leave green to be classic.

I don't think you understand. The point of the merge would be start green over for a new classic experience for people.

Nirgon
05-15-2019, 03:07 PM
Just say no to drugs.

Who is this retarded bluebie with the 2016 join date

You know nothing of red history