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Robersonroger38
04-08-2019, 11:05 AM
Sweet is Heartbrand the new Red GM overseer? Haven’t seen one lately on I had some items glitch out about 2-3 months ago . I put a petition in on the forums still no word, Maybe can be restored now would be Epic!!

Heywood
04-08-2019, 11:07 AM
Not sure but I know there is a new GM/Guide.


Banned two of Tune's chars for boxing yesterday.

derpcake2
04-08-2019, 11:35 AM
Banned two of Tune's chars for boxing yesterday.

sucks for him to lose full group bonus

kotton05
04-08-2019, 12:28 PM
Tune got banned for boxing. Lololol... if a guide wants to know what other chars he two boxes all the time I’d gladly give you a list

LostCause
04-09-2019, 10:35 AM
keep bumping the thread
























































will never see it answered then LUL

White_knight
04-09-2019, 06:51 PM
Not sure but I know there is a new GM/Guide.


Banned two of Tune's chars for boxing yesterday.

heard about this, someone was saying it wasn't his toons either.

ouch.

heartbrand
04-10-2019, 11:19 PM
Kind of feel bad for him. The staff have let red die, the only way to do anything is to box, they let it go on with zero enforcement for years then randomly show up and decide it’s time to throw the book at people. Not a great look.

heartbrand
04-11-2019, 11:52 AM
marijuana is still illegal under federal law despite state laws that decriminalize it. The feds for several years now have taken no action to intervene in states that have passed these laws. If they randomly show up now and start throwing the book at people, then you can imagine people would understandably be outraged.

The way laws are enforced are just as important as the laws themselves. Effective rules require consistent and fair application. Not applying rules for years then randomly applying them without warning to their full extent is unjust.

My two cents, and I’m no fan of Tune as a player he has done tons of dirty shit, but a ban for boxing on red99 after years of nothing is lame.

Nirgon
04-11-2019, 04:08 PM
Thx HB

Honk honk

frostcrypt
04-11-2019, 06:53 PM
must have been old empire being bored and mad at life to get some boxes bant on a server they "won"

frostcrypt
04-11-2019, 09:26 PM
marijuana is still illegal under federal law despite state laws that decriminalize it. The feds for several years now have taken no action to intervene in states that have passed these laws. If they randomly show up now and start throwing the book at people, then you can imagine people would understandably be outraged.

The way laws are enforced are just as important as the laws themselves. Effective rules require consistent and fair application. Not applying rules for years then randomly applying them without warning to their full extent is unjust.

My two cents, and I’m no fan of Tune as a player he has done tons of dirty shit, but a ban for boxing on red99 after years of nothing is lame.

everyone and their baby momma is in the county jail for possession of weed (like a blunt LOL) or similar in FL. cultivation was my first charge at 18 and i walked free released with no bond, tho it fucked my way into the army, times have changed. making it legal just brings other drugs onto the plate to sell imo

Swish2
04-13-2019, 06:25 AM
God bless America

Ignight
04-13-2019, 10:01 AM
Tune got banned for boxing. Lololol... if a guide wants to know what other chars he two boxes all the time I’d gladly give you a list

Didn't you move to a server with where boxing is allowed?

kotton05
04-13-2019, 10:05 AM
Didn't you move to a server with where boxing is allowed?

Yea they recently allowed shit heads to 3 box it seems

derpcake2
04-13-2019, 10:34 AM
I'm the new guide and will enjoy banning the 40% boxes on every raid.

Tassador
04-14-2019, 10:28 PM
Yea they recently allowed shit heads to 3 box it seems

Are you that naive? Boxing always been real in sub 100 pop servers kid hate to break it to you.

Like tune gives a fuck about shit boxes that help his guild get gainz and take no effort to level. It’s 2019 how are you guys still terrible at this?

JayDee
04-15-2019, 12:45 PM
Might as well allow boxing at this point. 30 people on red 1K on blue as of this post

Ignight
04-16-2019, 05:32 AM
Might as well allow boxing at this point. 30 people on red 1K on blue as of this post

They despise it on Red 99, but praise it on Rise of Zek. Hypocrites.

kotton05
04-16-2019, 06:06 AM
On r99 most are boxing as well homey, they just hypocrite with it

Ignight
04-17-2019, 12:32 PM
On r99 most are boxing as well homey, they just hypocrite with it

Why not praise it on both?

Tassador
04-17-2019, 02:36 PM
God bless America

I own guns kid get over it and send my blessing to the queen.

Smedy
04-18-2019, 04:35 AM
i will send 100$ paypals to whomever on staff gives me screenshots of tune's petition flood from recent bannings

that shit should be good

Ignight
04-18-2019, 05:48 AM
i will send 100$ paypals to whomever on staff gives me screenshots of tune's petition flood from recent bannings

that shit should be good

RMT.

Rushmore
04-26-2019, 08:42 PM
marijuana is still illegal under federal law despite state laws that decriminalize it. The feds for several years now have taken no action to intervene in states that have passed these laws. If they randomly show up now and start throwing the book at people, then you can imagine people would understandably be outraged.

The way laws are enforced are just as important as the laws themselves. Effective rules require consistent and fair application. Not applying rules for years then randomly applying them without warning to their full extent is unjust.

My two cents, and I’m no fan of Tune as a player he has done tons of dirty shit, but a ban for boxing on red99 after years of nothing is lame.

so your telling me RED had 7 people on it now it only has 6?

Tune
04-27-2019, 04:30 AM
yeah lotta good in this thread and also,

ive lost sleep over this.

susp for boxing in 2019 i mean jeeze, there is literally not enough people online to do anything

if your goal is to get 1 guy to play less it's working (thank you)

derpcake2
04-27-2019, 04:37 AM
yeah lotta good in this thread and also,

ive lost sleep over this.

susp for boxing in 2019 i mean jeeze, there is literally not enough people online to do anything

if your goal is to get 1 guy to play less it's working (thank you)

on live servers with shrinking playerbases, players start working together more and abandon guild vendettas

grats on shitting on as many people as you could for as long as you could, now enjoy the shitbox you created

Tune
04-27-2019, 04:51 AM
on live servers with shrinking playerbases, players start working together more and abandon guild vendettas

grats on shitting on as many people as you could for as long as you could, now enjoy the shitbox you created

lol who did i shit on again? ragnarok?

as a guy thats worked with sanctuary, swathe guild, friends, epidemic, u name it....

also thats given the same recycled losers 3 - 4 chances in his own guild

are u really saying i had something to do with the demise of the server?

derpcake2
04-27-2019, 04:55 AM
You've been boxing for years, trained people, stripped accounts, deleveled and deleted characters, and now you are mad noone wants to play with you?

Hilarious.

I remember when I was a lvl 40 trying to get OT hammer, and you warped the turn-in mob under the world. Maybe if staff had banned you more often the server wouldn't be desolate.

Tune
04-27-2019, 05:26 AM
You've been boxing for years, trained people, stripped accounts, deleveled and deleted characters, and now you are mad noone wants to play with you?

Hilarious.

I remember when I was a lvl 40 trying to get OT hammer, and you warped the turn-in mob under the world. Maybe if staff had banned you more often the server wouldn't be desolate.

LOOOOL

lotta accusations... do u have proof?

i think i got susp ONCE for training some1 in MISTMOORE

and yes i was training mobs to my group of noobs so we could kill it

2 weeks later i received a reply :oops our bad, not enough evidence to keep you locked up , so releasing

this actually happened

derpcake2
04-27-2019, 06:16 AM
LOOOOL

lotta accusations... do u have proof?

i think i got susp ONCE for training some1 in MISTMOORE

and yes i was training mobs to my group of noobs so we could kill it

2 weeks later i received a reply :oops our bad, not enough evidence to keep you locked up , so releasing

this actually happened

of course and staff unbanned your bard because you never did nuffin

anyway, looking forward to petitioning you for boxing again

Heywood
04-27-2019, 12:07 PM
its been a bad year for apex/tune.

whobot rendered useless.

New box changes has rendered apex toothless in ToV

Sanctuary wiping the floor with apex scrubs in Seb.

Tune banned on shelz and other toons for boxing.

Apex forced to raid Trak on mondays/wednesdays.

SteppinnRazor
04-27-2019, 01:30 PM
You've been boxing for years, trained people, stripped accounts, deleveled and deleted characters, and now you are mad noone wants to play with you?

Hilarious.



That was literally all me, not Tune. Are you gonna do anything about it, you little crybaby faggot bitch?

White_knight
04-27-2019, 02:08 PM
are u really saying i had something to do with the demise of the server?

Server player # stats don't lie bro.

You inhereted a server with 200 average players (+ all these casual players that would login from time to time) and drove it down to 50-80 in 2 years via poor decisions/housing cheaters/rmters and continuous petitions against anyone and their dog because of your paranoia stemming from your guilty concious from your own cheating. Your ideology is to petition everyone for any minor infringement before "they" petition you (paranoia) about something and that ideology permeated thru your guilds' members to the point no one wanted to PvP incase their toons gets banned.

The server culture shifted from one of a fun place to enjoy gaming time, to this bitter cheaters paradise with everyone flinging off petitions everytime a PvP encounter happened.

PvP became a taboo aspect of red99 during your tenure, unless it was your chargers driving guilds and players off the server. Couple that with the fact you basically spent your entire EverQuest career hiding on alts, or classes that have a distict undeniable advantage in escaping PvP, or surviving PvP and are so paranoid with dying in PvP that you will use other people's toons to hide on instead of your own (and according to rumours, will go and get banned on them too).

GMs even gave up 100% on the server during your tenure, much like 100s of players did too.

For you this place was/is an addiction but to many other's it was a place to spend freetime: what you failed to recongize is that other's can go spend their time elsewhere and that's what people did, aka they voted with their feet to leave the toxic server culture you cultivated. You claim it's other players faults, other guilds faults, yet the server #'s kept dwindling and your guild kept up their toxic behaviour when all the "so-called toxic PvP" players left the server, funny that hay?

Addiction and "been in the moment" is a tough thing to see one's own faults thru which you never will see.. well not untill you go clean and have moments of reflection...

TLDR: you cultivated a toxic server culture no one wanted to spend their gaming time on. Aslong as you had enough bodies to kill dragons in ToV it didnt matter what happened to the server.

karsten
04-27-2019, 02:17 PM
people sure do have a short memory of things that have happened on red

Bazia
04-27-2019, 03:33 PM
if anything killed red it was the years in kunark that lasted forever, by the time velious was finally released i didnt even give af

ducktv
04-27-2019, 04:04 PM
Imagine being one of the losers like Tune still playing here lol

It’s hard to think of anyone who is a bigger loser

Zade
04-29-2019, 12:33 PM
The staff didnt let red die. The people killed it by themselves

Nirgon
04-29-2019, 12:51 PM
This was supposed to be a classic EQ server.

You keep making it more custom.

Sundawg and Amelinda did a ton of damage to box integrity.

Resist changes while VERY good should have been ALLOWED to come earlier.

As you were ex junior guide. Hoping for a brown99 to match green (with item loot).

kotton05
04-29-2019, 01:27 PM
The staff didnt let red die. The people killed it by themselves

Oh the staff killed it dude, won’t argue the players are not just as guilty...but I can assure you Sirken griefed off more players than anyone that actually logs in to play

Clazxiss
04-29-2019, 01:42 PM
Oh the staff killed it dude, won’t argue the players are not just as guilty...but I can assure you Sirken griefed off more players than anyone that actually logs in to play

I was not around for that time period. Can you give me a history lesson?

kotton05
04-29-2019, 01:44 PM
Server player # stats don't lie bro.

You inhereted a server with 200 average players (+ all these casual players that would login from time to time) and drove it down to 50-80 in 2 years via poor decisions/housing cheaters/rmters and continuous petitions against anyone and their dog because of your paranoia stemming from your guilty concious from your own cheating. Your ideology is to petition everyone for any minor infringement before "they" petition you (paranoia) about something and that ideology permeated thru your guilds' members to the point no one wanted to PvP incase their toons gets banned.

The server culture shifted from one of a fun place to enjoy gaming time, to this bitter cheaters paradise with everyone flinging off petitions everytime a PvP encounter happened.

PvP became a taboo aspect of red99 during your tenure, unless it was your chargers driving guilds and players off the server. Couple that with the fact you basically spent your entire EverQuest career hiding on alts, or classes that have a distict undeniable advantage in escaping PvP, or surviving PvP and are so paranoid with dying in PvP that you will use other people's toons to hide on instead of your own (and according to rumours, will go and get banned on them too).

GMs even gave up 100% on the server during your tenure, much like 100s of players did too.

For you this place was/is an addiction but to many other's it was a place to spend freetime: what you failed to recongize is that other's can go spend their time elsewhere and that's what people did, aka they voted with their feet to leave the toxic server culture you cultivated. You claim it's other players faults, other guilds faults, yet the server #'s kept dwindling and your guild kept up their toxic behaviour when all the "so-called toxic PvP" players left the server, funny that hay?

Addiction and "been in the moment" is a tough thing to see one's own faults thru which you never will see.. well not untill you go clean and have moments of reflection...

TLDR: you cultivated a toxic server culture no one wanted to spend their gaming time on. Aslong as you had enough bodies to kill dragons in ToV it didnt matter what happened to the server.

You are very accurate , tune went out of his way to frame me with doctored petitions every day... he has a Flak cheats series and managed to get some shared druid banned by Sirken for gating. Who seriously wants to play on server filled with pussies who cry all the time tbh.

Ignight
04-29-2019, 05:54 PM
Server player # stats don't lie bro.

You inhereted a server with 200 average players (+ all these casual players that would login from time to time) and drove it down to 50-80 in 2 years via poor decisions/housing cheaters/rmters and continuous petitions against anyone and their dog because of your paranoia stemming from your guilty concious from your own cheating. Your ideology is to petition everyone for any minor infringement before "they" petition you (paranoia) about something and that ideology permeated thru your guilds' members to the point no one wanted to PvP incase their toons gets banned.

The server culture shifted from one of a fun place to enjoy gaming time, to this bitter cheaters paradise with everyone flinging off petitions everytime a PvP encounter happened.

PvP became a taboo aspect of red99 during your tenure, unless it was your chargers driving guilds and players off the server. Couple that with the fact you basically spent your entire EverQuest career hiding on alts, or classes that have a distict undeniable advantage in escaping PvP, or surviving PvP and are so paranoid with dying in PvP that you will use other people's toons to hide on instead of your own (and according to rumours, will go and get banned on them too).

GMs even gave up 100% on the server during your tenure, much like 100s of players did too.

For you this place was/is an addiction but to many other's it was a place to spend freetime: what you failed to recongize is that other's can go spend their time elsewhere and that's what people did, aka they voted with their feet to leave the toxic server culture you cultivated. You claim it's other players faults, other guilds faults, yet the server #'s kept dwindling and your guild kept up their toxic behaviour when all the "so-called toxic PvP" players left the server, funny that hay?

Addiction and "been in the moment" is a tough thing to see one's own faults thru which you never will see.. well not untill you go clean and have moments of reflection...

TLDR: you cultivated a toxic server culture no one wanted to spend their gaming time on. Aslong as you had enough bodies to kill dragons in ToV it didnt matter what happened to the server.

What a load of crap. One man didn't ruin it for everyone. Not even two (Sirken and Tune) could do that. Tune petitioned people? How many petitioned him? Give me a break, you guys were/are as bad as Tune ever was. He just beat you off the server.

Tune inherited a server? So day one everyone bowed to Tune? Gimme a break. You make it sound like 199 people couldn't stop ONE player from bring Red 99 to what it is today.

More likely, the bunch of you forum trolls were a large part of it too. Griefing new players at level 10 with your fungi twinks because they were skill-less kills. Taking /OOC to toxic levels to where most of us just turn it off now. That wasn't Tune, that was you.

Then when barely anyone logs in anymore, you sit on the forums and cry.

Bottom line: Tune Beat You. Everyone still playing beat you. A 20 yr Elf Sim Beat You. Your opinion doesn't matter anymore. Worthless forum trolls with zero value to Project 1999 Red or Blue.

You Lost, Get Over It.

White_knight
04-29-2019, 06:06 PM
What a load of crap. One man didn't ruin it for everyone. Not even two (Sirken and Tune) could do that. Tune petitioned people? How many petitioned him? Give me a break, you guys were/are as bad as Tune ever was. He just beat you off the server.

Tune inherited a server? So day one everyone bowed to Tune? Gimme a break. You make it sound like 199 people couldn't stop ONE player from bring Red 99 to what it is today.

More likely, the bunch of you forum trolls were a large part of it too. Griefing new players at level 10 with your fungi twinks because they were skill-less kills. Taking /OOC to toxic levels to where most of us just turn it off now. That wasn't Tune, that was you.

Then when barely anyone logs in anymore, you sit on the forums and cry.

Bottom line: Tune Beat You. Everyone still playing beat you. A 20 yr Elf Sim Beat You. Your opinion doesn't matter anymore. Worthless forum trolls with zero value to Project 1999 Red or Blue.

You Lost, Get Over It.

Didnt you get to level 56 on a 360% xp server and was never involved in anything on the server other than trying to counter "troll" for Tune?

I hardly think your opinion counts to be frank.

You people whine about twinks killing you? Fuck man should have leveled up when I did and there were GROUPS of players hunting you down. Every hour someone logging in twinks to kill you or try to kill you. But we all kept at it because it was a fun dynamic. The whole twink thing is a joke and just an copout.

When I leveled up there was a bard that ran around MM dispelling roots and CC just to xp death you. CoM had atleasylt 10 twink wizards/rogues loggijg in constantly. KC had whole groups of Azreal and Houkuten members chasing you around. Unrest was literered with twinks - non of this stopped people leveling.

People would root you next to mobs so you took an xp death.

Going to bank in North Freeport was a 50/50 chance for PvP.

People like you came for a PvE experience (like most of us did) but we adapted to survive the PvP or participate in the PvP...this is where you deviated and constantly cry about PvP and twinks.

You dont know Tune like most of us do. You're a coat tail rider on a server rich with history, your opinion doesn't really matter.

Tassador
04-29-2019, 06:48 PM
^that is what an aussie slam dunk looks like. Ben Simmons tonight.

Ignight
04-29-2019, 07:37 PM
I dont care about low level twinks. Bluebies do though. Didn't bother me. I'm still here. You ragequit to blue to solo a paladin and make videos. You lost.

Cry me a river on these forums. Your ragequit tears are delish.

Tassador
04-29-2019, 08:09 PM
Ignight not only rage quit from roz but also from here a couple times. What’s delish is how bad someone can be at a game that’s 20 years old.

That’s delish.

ducktv
04-29-2019, 08:30 PM
Ignight is a terrible player and brain damaged

quido
04-29-2019, 08:52 PM
Hey Guys,

Rogean PMed me and asked me to clean up red, so I'm your new guide. I have the authority to ban people on sight with the expectation of a full investigation upon dispute from the banned parties. I thought this may be a good way to increase population on RoZ.

Best Regards,
Jeremy

Ignight
04-29-2019, 09:52 PM
It's so easy to trigger the two forum nerds.

Gotem!

karsten
04-29-2019, 10:24 PM
Hey Guys,

Rogean PMed me and asked me to clean up red, so I'm your new guide. I have the authority to ban people on sight with the expectation of a full investigation upon dispute from the banned parties. I thought this may be a good way to increase population on RoZ.

Best Regards,
Jeremy

A+ would let Jermy be a GM

Madbad
04-29-2019, 10:26 PM
A+ would let Jermy be a GM

Drugs

karsten
04-29-2019, 10:50 PM
checkraise is right btw

heartbrand
04-30-2019, 12:41 AM
To claim the server pop is where it is now because of Tune is laughable. People aren't sitting on the sidelines currently because of Apex or Tune or whatever guild may still be raiding here uncontested in 2027; they are sitting on the sidelines because most people aren't really interested in coming back to a server locked forever in Velious that we already played out, to fight for pixels we don't need, with more zones than players, and with uninteresting mass pvp of "hug a zoneline for 3 hours refreshing buffs for maybe 3 minutes of action followed by fighting people while engaged on a mob"

wipe red or make a new pvp server that isn't launched with game breaking chain rooting mage pets with no guard assist and 100x other game breaking bugs that were here on launch, and you'll see 500+ pop again; the end.

Imago
04-30-2019, 12:51 AM
I see [Heartbrand's vision] quickly turning into 3-5 factions, each carving out territory they protect with contested, true PvP zones that people hug zone lines in.

I'd be down for a wipe if they fix plugging, get input from the community regarding small changes (soulfire? trak teeth? etc) and have the major factions on hard coded by IP, no limit PvP (fuck faction flip floppers).

White_knight
04-30-2019, 04:57 AM
To claim the server pop is where it is now because of Tune is laughable. People aren't sitting on the sidelines currently because of Apex or Tune or whatever guild may still be raiding here uncontested in 2027; they are sitting on the sidelines because most people aren't really interested in coming back to a server locked forever in Velious that we already played out, to fight for pixels we don't need, with more zones than players, and with uninteresting mass pvp of "hug a zoneline for 3 hours refreshing buffs for maybe 3 minutes of action followed by fighting people while engaged on a mob"

wipe red or make a new pvp server that isn't launched with game breaking chain rooting mage pets with no guard assist and 100x other game breaking bugs that were here on launch, and you'll see 500+ pop again; the end.

You're correct in all aspects of this post: however the deviation is in the mentality of say <Empire> v <Apex>.

We can agree both guilds were zergs in their respected era's.

During Empire days I never heard leadership ask their members to scrub out other guilds. Infact Gongshow and Colgate specifically stated on many occasions when asked why we dont dont take VP from Friends is because they dont want to kill the server and allow other guilds to function and get lewt. They also began to allow <TMO> to do HoT and other raids after it was clear TMO<Blue> had been put in their place re: the adpating to red comments from Tiggles.

We also knew Friends was doing HoT/WToV deep into the nights but no one went and trained them etc.

We knew TMO was doing Kael Arena and PoG for gear and no one excessively went out of their way to destroy their time in game.

During these times there was also a few other guilds around: Prophets of Slush, Casual Sucm etc. All functioning guilds.

Now fast foward to Apex's era and they are going out of their way to kill off all other guilds so that there is 0 competition to get loot. Heck they were killing Trakanon just to deny guilds VP keys. They were doing this all while the population was plummeting.

Tune turned VS raids from optional to DKP because not enough people would show up just to take on Thunderdomes' strangle hold on it (this is VS we are talking about during velious era). We are talking about a 50-60 member velious guild vrs a 12-15 member kunark guild.

So yes, Apex and Tune are responsible for the loss of a partial amount of the population on red99. Instead of harboring an enviornment where guilds could co-exist they would destory them resulting in people quiting. No one has time to neckbeard like core Apex neckbearded.

But the totality of population loss is a result of the server not getting wipes.

Ignight
04-30-2019, 07:11 AM
...Boo Hoo Stuff...<<Skipped>>

Now fast foward to Apex's era and they are going out of their way to kill off all other guilds so that there is 0 competition to get loot. Heck they were killing Trakanon just to deny guilds VP keys. They were doing this all while the population was plummeting.

Tune turned VS raids from optional to DKP because not enough people would show up just to take on Thunderdomes' strangle hold on it (this is VS we are talking about during velious era). We are talking about a 50-60 member velious guild vrs a 12-15 member kunark guild.

So yes, Apex and Tune are responsible for the loss of a partial amount of the population on red99. Instead of harboring an enviornment where guilds could co-exist they would destory them resulting in people quiting. No one has time to neckbeard like core Apex neckbearded.

But the totality of population loss is a result of the server not getting wipes.

What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.

Seems to me, he got a bunch of like minded friends, out PvP'd and crush opposition guilds who couldn't get their shit together and fight back in any meaningful way. Imagine that, a guild willing to PvP for pixels on a PvP server and you're crying about it.

Fuck off back to blue.

White_knight
04-30-2019, 08:07 AM
What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.

Seems to me, he got a bunch of like minded friends, out PvP'd and crush opposition guilds who couldn't get their shit together and fight back in any meaningful way. Imagine that, a guild willing to PvP for pixels on a PvP server and you're crying about it.

Fuck off back to blue.

Lol this would be funny if it wasn't you posting it.

Also I am still not 100% convinced you're not one of Tunes' crazy alternate personalities he has. This sort of post kinda makes me think you are again.

Anyhoo bless you ignight if you are a real person and not some split personality: none of this really matters much like your time on this server.

Ignight
04-30-2019, 09:28 AM
Tune this. Tune that. Be careful out there, everyone could be Tune. You're obsessed. Get help.

Fuck off back to blue.

ducktv
04-30-2019, 10:11 AM
Empire attacked us pretty often in HoT. Had to put Fandango face down in some drake drudge a few times, but eventually colgate would train us on some throw away 50s character only eating one suspesion on his monk after a month two of doing it. Also we definently lost VP, sometime before or after we took a few shawls of protection. None of that effected our numbers though, except for 10 or so non factor warmbodies that would only log in if we were "winning" something consistently.

Some of us quit when Empire quit, and some of us (tune, grixus) went on to raid uncontested for years to come. Servers dead because its the 3rd or 4th year of velious. Deal with it

quido
04-30-2019, 10:55 AM
I'm of the opinion that the difficulty of Velious raid content combined with the gear gap achieved by completing said content is the reason why Velious is inherently so difficult to rise up as an underdog guild. Yes, I know this is common knowledge to many of you. In Kunark we could close the majority of that gear gap without raiding or by only raiding old-world content. In Velious if you bust your ass on all non-Velious-raid content you won't even close half of the gap. I think r99 just needs Luclin ;)

heartbrand
04-30-2019, 10:57 AM
What is best in life?
Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.

Seems to me, he got a bunch of like minded friends, out PvP'd and crush opposition guilds who couldn't get their shit together and fight back in any meaningful way. Imagine that, a guild willing to PvP for pixels on a PvP server and you're crying about it.

Fuck off back to blue.

While it's funny to do the whole "you know the timers contest" blah blah meme, in practice if the dominant guild is willing to shit on you 24/7 there really isn't much you can do to build a viable alternative guild unless you have 100+ warm bodies willing to play 24/7 and eat dirtnaps constantly. This goes into the other issue which is that consistent mass pvp really isn't viable because the "losing" guild can simply just camp 12+ alts etc., at raid spots ready to engage while the mob is being fought and wipe the winner out; so what happens is you just have a stalemate of the guild sitting there doing nothing waiting for the other team to login who is also just sitting there, and it's awful and incredibly unfun for everyone involved other than the sickest of people.

Ideally, if there were to be a new PvP box, there would be some sort of rule in place that requires in raid settings only for a contesting force to fight for the right to engage the mob. In theory they had that already with the one hour lockout from calling lns, but then people just gamed that by either camping all their toons out at the engage spot and foregoing the PvP to begin with or never calling LNS, and it's not hard to get the 12+ people required to be allowed to engage mid PvE. And for the people who say "then don't let them camp toons out", it goes back to what makes PvP not fun as only the sickest of people want to stay awake for 24 hours a day defending pull spots from the other side sneaking their chars out there to camp. I think most people enjoy mass pvp that's fun and fair that ends with a winner, and then another fight the next day etc., etc.

heartbrand
04-30-2019, 11:04 AM
Basically, it boils down to the fact that for most people, EQ is a PvE game first and adding a bit of PvP flavor to it makes it more exciting. When the PvP becomes such that PvE is no longer viable, many people become discouraged and uninterested in playing. The counterstrike with elves meme, despite being a vocal minority on the boards, is not really what most people seem to enjoy based upon the server pop and failure of try red posts. By making the rules such that PvP is there for the ability to contest raids and camps [and of course the usual skirmishes and fucking around] but then there is a winner and life goes on for at least some significant duration to allow for people to kill pixilated goblins and dragons, we would likely see more people interested in playing.

In classic you'd have people like Natural at the evil eye spawn in Guk who would literally just bind themselves there and bind rush to stop you from ever being able to do the PvE even if you won the PvP over and over. For some of us that in and of itself is a thrill, but again I'd argue for the vast majority of people that becomes uninteresting and they quit in frustration, because even if they "win" they still can't slay some everquest frogs.

Ignight
04-30-2019, 11:55 AM
While it's funny to do the whole "you know the timers contest" blah blah meme, in practice if the dominant guild is willing to shit on you 24/7 there really isn't much you can do to build a viable alternative guild unless you have 100+ warm bodies willing to play 24/7 and eat dirtnaps constantly.

Summary: I only know how to zerg the top zerg guild, but I don't have any friends. OMFG, they have better gear too! And they support Trump!

Fuck off back to blue.

heartbrand
04-30-2019, 12:12 PM
That philosophy has led to almost no meaningful sustained somewhat equal guild competition in the 8 year history of this box, and has taken us to sub 100 pop. Most people are uninterested in joining a 8 year old server where they will need to bring 60+ people minimum with them, level up to 60 together while being raped by 24 hour a day playing sickos, and then trained/prevented from killing anything meaningful due to the ease of harassing people attempting to engage in PvE. Also somewhat ironic coming from a guy who rolled here when the box was already dead.

Ignight
04-30-2019, 12:31 PM
HB, just check yourself into a retirement home. You're done.

derpcake2
04-30-2019, 01:43 PM
Being a newb retard doesn't make you awesome Ignight.

Sorry for this shocking info.

If you are confident you aren't retarded, post an AMA thread so we can all have a laugh.

Ignight
04-30-2019, 03:08 PM
Being a newb retard doesn't make you awesome Ignight.

Sorry for this shocking info.

If you are confident you aren't retarded, post an AMA thread so we can all have a laugh.

How about I just log into R99 and not cry about how Tune ruined my life?

SteppinnRazor
04-30-2019, 04:30 PM
I converted 4 years of pixels into oxycodone. I got high for a whole fucking WEEK son, well worth it.


hmu if mad

Nirgon
04-30-2019, 04:31 PM
Oh the staff killed it dude, won’t argue the players are not just as guilty...but I can assure you Sirken griefed off more players than anyone that actually logs in to play

Sirken was miles away the best GM, not that he had much good competition but still.

He listened to more retarded shit, sorted thru more lies, garbage and doctored evidence than anyone here.

This is a terrible place don't get me wrong, but there's some ex-staff worse than maybe any ex or current player.

A fresh box with a fresh face and new chance at better integrity could go far. Who knows maybe they'll even make it classic.

great story heartbrand please don't forget to include you always join the zerg due to you being a weak minded simpleton

He led a guild into a very uphill battle. Maybe he tabbed back and forth between Final Fantasy a bit but it invalidates ur claim. I make this statement despite the fact he's falsely accused me of stealing from him AND when I took something off a raid, gave it to him that the guild stole from him previously. Like. Really man? Took a lot of shit for HBK for that 1.

heartbrand
04-30-2019, 05:45 PM
Pretty sure I joined about every guild on the server at one point because I have massive ADHD and get bored quickly / like to shake things up.

coolget
04-30-2019, 09:31 PM
hb is a box legend, like it or not

no idea who this ignight guy is at all

paegan
04-30-2019, 10:35 PM
hb is a box legend, like it or not

no idea who this ignight guy is at all

just some guy who checks r99 forums every 3 hours :cool:

Ignight
04-30-2019, 11:09 PM
hb is a box legend, like it or not

no idea who this ignight guy is at all

When does he stop crying about Tune and start acting like this living legend you seem to think he is?

coolget
04-30-2019, 11:16 PM
fact: a significant percentage of the players who have touched this server know who heartbrand is
fact: no one knows who you are

Ignight
05-01-2019, 05:54 AM
fact: a significant percentage of the players who have touched this server know who heartbrand is
fact: no one knows who you are

Does saying "Fact:" make your statement that much more important?

Fact: You have a April 2018 join date. Tell me about the good old days. An HB alt account? Maybe.

The point is, Tune doesn't define my game. He seems to have that power over the lot of you. I log in, I do my own thing, and I log out. If you think that a server wipe would bring back the hundreds of players, why didn't RoZ do as well? Why is wiping what's left of Red 99 necessary if so few play here? Dead99, remember?

Or is this just about screwing over whoever is left of R99?

If you think you're right, prove it. Make an emulator with your rules and you and your friends as GM. See how far you get.

White_knight
05-01-2019, 07:10 AM
Does saying "Fact:" make your statement that much more important?

Fact: You have a April 2018 join date. Tell me about the good old days. An HB alt account? Maybe.

The point is, Tune doesn't define my game. He seems to have that power over the lot of you. I log in, I do my own thing, and I log out. If you think that a server wipe would bring back the hundreds of players, why didn't RoZ do as well? Why is wiping what's left of Red 99 necessary if so few play here? Dead99, remember?

Or is this just about screwing over whoever is left of R99?

If you think you're right, prove it. Make an emulator with your rules and you and your friends as GM. See how far you get.

Your ideology is all wrong bro.

No one sane wants to spent 25 hrs a day (yes 25, not 24) playing EQ just to beat a guy on a dead server. No one cares enough.

Poking fun at said person or guild is where the fun is.

Now for an education lesson: whoever controls the neckbeards controls the server. Neckbeards love pixels. Neckbeards have 8 toons at level 60. To "win" red99 you have to control the neckbeards - and in 2019 almost 2020 no respectable former guildleader would ever waste their time on red99 trying to do this.

The people left farming raid gear are insane.

Why does people poking fun at tune or saying wipe red99 upset you so much???????

heartbrand
05-01-2019, 08:09 AM
When does he stop crying about Tune and start acting like this living legend you seem to think he is?

If you had any reading comprehension whatsoever you’d realize I’ve been defending Tune in this thread.

derpcake2
05-01-2019, 09:04 AM
If you had any reading comprehension whatsoever you’d realize I’ve been defending Tune in this thread.

pls don't raise the bar that high, r99 has enough issues with pop as is

heartbrand
05-01-2019, 09:17 AM
lol. Tune is a scumbag and one of the less enjoyable people to shoot the breeze with I met here, but he's definitely not the reason the pop is where it's at. I can't speak for everyone, but I'd play with anyone on this box [other than Tunak if that guy is still alive IRL], but right now the box isn't fun regardless of who is running what guild and what guild is killing what dragon.

let's hope for a green pvp server

Ignight
05-01-2019, 09:22 AM
Wiping the server or starting a new one will not solve anything. PvP will never see the 100's of the past.

Sorry. Best you can do is start your own server.

heartbrand
05-01-2019, 09:37 AM
That's a pretty strong claim to make that has no evidence to support it considering there has only been one P99 pvp server made.

xaanka two
05-01-2019, 09:51 AM
heartbrand you're still playing red? yike

Ignight
05-01-2019, 10:48 AM
That's a pretty strong claim to make that has no evidence to support it considering there has only been one P99 pvp server made.

Other PvP servers have opened up. Current condition of R99. Take it for what it is. Most people would look at these forums and walk away before even logging in.

Nirgon
05-01-2019, 10:57 AM
Pretty sure I joined about every guild on the server at one point because I have massive ADHD and get bored quickly / like to shake things up.

You did what u had to do mang

I'll let you continue trying to educate but from here there isn't much reaching of anyone

They don't get it and won't. The people who know how much of a corrupt shitty start this box got won't even admit it. Why bother. Shame too cuz it's so close to being incredibly good.

heartbrand
05-01-2019, 12:29 PM
Other PvP servers have opened up. Current condition of R99. Take it for what it is. Most people would look at these forums and walk away before even logging in.

Apples & Oranges comparing a P99 box to a non P99 box.

Ignight
05-01-2019, 12:40 PM
Apples & Oranges comparing a P99 box to a non P99 box.

Give me a break. PvP is PvP. This that want it log into those servers. The combined numbers aren't there.

Server wipe or not. Very few want pvp as part of their EQ

derpcake2
05-02-2019, 12:52 PM
Server wipe or not. Very few want pvp as part of their EQ

This forum has more individuals asking for a wipe then r99 has had players online, in well over 2 years.

Ignight
05-02-2019, 03:00 PM
This forum has more individuals asking for a wipe then r99 has had players online, in well over 2 years.

Imagine if they all logged in.

White_knight
05-02-2019, 03:39 PM
Imagine if they all logged in.

If they did there wouldn't be 1 twink running around MM there would be 20+

Imagine how much you would complain then.

heartbrand
05-02-2019, 04:22 PM
There’s an ignight type poster every year here who is preaching how great the box is and how everyone who doesn’t play is a loser and doesn’t want to contest or something. Better off to just ignore them.

Ignight
05-02-2019, 05:48 PM
If they did there wouldn't be 1 twink running around MM there would be 20+

Imagine how much you would complain then.

Twinks don't bother me. I've told you that.

Back to blue, Mr. Solo Paladin.

Ignight
05-02-2019, 07:48 PM
There’s an ignight type poster every year here who is preaching how great the box is and how everyone who doesn’t play is a loser and doesn’t want to contest or something. Better off to just ignore them.

Never said the box was great. Never said everyone who doesn't play was a loser. Just think that crying on the forumsbabout the good ole days, or wiping the server is a waste of time.

Sorry your a fail.

White_knight
05-03-2019, 04:43 AM
Ignight = Tune's alternative personality.

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
05-03-2019, 06:15 PM
Basically, it boils down to the fact that for most people, EQ is a PvE game first and adding a bit of PvP flavor to it makes it more exciting. When the PvP becomes such that PvE is no longer viable, many people become discouraged and uninterested in playing. The counterstrike with elves meme, despite being a vocal minority on the boards, is not really what most people seem to enjoy based upon the server pop and failure of try red posts. By making the rules such that PvP is there for the ability to contest raids and camps [and of course the usual skirmishes and fucking around] but then there is a winner and life goes on for at least some significant duration to allow for people to kill pixilated goblins and dragons, we would likely see more people interested in playing.

In classic you'd have people like Natural at the evil eye spawn in Guk who would literally just bind themselves there and bind rush to stop you from ever being able to do the PvE even if you won the PvP over and over. For some of us that in and of itself is a thrill, but again I'd argue for the vast majority of people that becomes uninteresting and they quit in frustration, because even if they "win" they still can't slay some everquest frogs.

This right here.

coolget
05-03-2019, 11:53 PM
Does saying "Fact:" make your statement that much more important?

Fact: You have a April 2018 join date. Tell me about the good old days. An HB alt account? Maybe.

The point is, Tune doesn't define my game. He seems to have that power over the lot of you. I log in, I do my own thing, and I log out. If you think that a server wipe would bring back the hundreds of players, why didn't RoZ do as well? Why is wiping what's left of Red 99 necessary if so few play here? Dead99, remember?

Or is this just about screwing over whoever is left of R99?

If you think you're right, prove it. Make an emulator with your rules and you and your friends as GM. See how far you get.

i did not read this reply

seems i struck a nerve based on the length, though

Flexin
05-05-2019, 06:33 AM
Does saying "Fact:" make your statement that much more important?

Fact: You have a April 2018 join date. Tell me about the good old days. An HB alt account? Maybe.

The point is, Tune doesn't define my game. He seems to have that power over the lot of you. I log in, I do my own thing, and I log out. If you think that a server wipe would bring back the hundreds of players, why didn't RoZ do as well? Why is wiping what's left of Red 99 necessary if so few play here? Dead99, remember?

Or is this just about screwing over whoever is left of R99?

If you think you're right, prove it. Make an emulator with your rules and you and your friends as GM. See how far you get.

I assure you there are plenty of us who would never play on RoZ but would easily come play a fresh red server associated with P99. I don't even know what RoZ is, all of the people I played with have no clue what RoZ is, thousands of people know what p99 is.

Jimjam
05-05-2019, 07:12 AM
It stands for Realm of Zek or something. To be honest most people advertising alternatives to p1999 fail to sell them to me.

When I heard of p99 I was sold as it was advertised based on the positives (and not by dissing live). All the alts to p99 have been "p99 is bad, try this instead". Sorry, I enjoy p99, so no.