Damn nobody ever talks..

[Pryda]

I swear I'm talking to myself in ooc/shout no matter what zone I'm leveling in. It's like the server is just completely full of mindless zombies playing without speaking or interacting.

I know I'm generalizing... but man, it's so hard to get people to engage in conversation. Unless you're in Highkeep of course and it's someone bitching about camps or something.

Ok done with my complaint. Discuss.

[Jauna]

People have their own cliques and chatting away on aol, im and other things. its not that other people are mindless zombies.. its just you are that weird loner dude

[Lurgort/Sseri]

I'm forming groups all the time on my Warrior and chat a ton during those groups while auto-attacking / autorunning with a pull inc. I dunno where you're at, but yea, plenty of people chat if you engage them in conversation yourself.

[Darkatar]

I swear I'm talking to myself in ooc/shout no matter what zone I'm leveling in.

I like talking in ooc/shout in empty zones. Something cathartic about it.

[Malik_Gynax]

One thing I've learned about people in online games from 20+ years of MMOs is that people never feel compelled to respond to global channels. This includes a guild channel.

However, if you address someone directly, you're far more likely to get a response. I definitely fall into this. Let's take the Paineel elevator for example.

Situation 1:
Soandso says in out of character, 'man i died can anyone plz come nad click elevator for me for a cr?'

No.

Situation 2:
Soandso tells you, 'Hey are you downstairs in Paineel by any chance? If so, can you please click the elevator for me? I'm in it now.'

Yes, probably. Mostly because I'm addressed directly. The quality of the text is a hyperbole of how my brain automatically thinks of /ooc people.

It boils down to... if you're saying random stuff in /ooc, you're not addressing anyone in particular and therefore you're not talking to me. If you /tell me directly, you're talking to me and I will feel compelled to respond even if I can't help you.

It's not just begging in OOC either. Another example.

Situation 1:
I'm in Dreadlands killing on north wall on my shaman.
Soandso says in out of character, '42 monk lfg'

I probably just keep killing on north wall.

Situation 2:
Soandso tells you, 'Hey man, want to duo with a 42 monk?'

I probably say okay.

It's an interesting social thing and I don't think that I'm weird in this way, as this mirrors my experience on the opposite end of things. If I /ooc I get no replies. If I message people directly, I get replies probably 80% of the time.

Okay, one last example. Even in settings as small as a group. Say I'm in a group of 6 in MM.

Situation 1:
You tell your party, 'Hey where's everyone from?'

Maybe one guy responds.

Situation 2:
You tell PartyMember1, 'Hey cool sword. What is that?'

Probably responds.

Long post, but something I have actively thought about.

[Pryda]

People have their own cliques and chatting away on aol, im and other things. its not that other people are mindless zombies.. its just you are that weird loner dude

I'm forming groups all the time on my Warrior and chat a ton during those groups while auto-attacking / autorunning with a pull inc. I dunno where you're at, but yea, plenty of people chat if you engage them in conversation yourself.

Groups are only a couple people so I wouldn't think it's that weird if a group chat ends up being quiet. I'm not talking about cliques or guilds though. I'm not level 60, so this is just my experience progressing through the levels and zones. Zones are often 10-20 people for hours with no one saying a word, not even answering questions like where the food vendor is -- except "CC" that shit is instant. It's freakishly weird. Oh, lol, you'll also hear from people in a super rage-y kind of way if you kill their guard or rat or whatever and it was part of some camp you didn't know about.

And wtf, AOL? This is 2019. If you were going to chat in something it would be Discord. But only weird people type instead of using a mic when given the option. And besides, having Discord doesn't prevent you from communicating in-game.

Let me clarify though - people have been super friendly and talkative if I send them messages. I've met some pretty cool people that way too. Both higher levels and lower levels. It's just been bad enough in public channels I've started to think there were unspoken rules about public communication, lmao.

edit: This has been mostly in Highkeep and then some of the outdoor zones I've leveled in. Maybe it's a bit different in big grouping hotspots at higher levels.

[Pryda]

It boils down to... if you're saying random stuff in /ooc, you're not addressing anyone in particular and therefore you're not talking to me. If you /tell me directly, you're talking to me and I will feel compelled to respond even if I can't help you.


This is probably what it comes down to. And it seems to extend to just general, random topics also -- not just questions or services.

I was just bringing it up because it does seem kind of lonely out there at times even despite there being so many people in the zone.

[Cecily]

Most of the guilds on the server use AIMchat as their primary method of communication. What is Discord?

[Lurgort/Sseri]

Groups are only a couple people so I wouldn't think it's that weird if a group chat ends up being quiet. I'm not talking about cliques or guilds though. I'm not level 60, so this is just my experience progressing through the levels and zones. Zones are often 10-20 people for hours with no one saying a word, not even answering questions like where the food vendor is -- except "CC" that shit is instant. It's freakishly weird. Oh, lol, you'll also hear from people in a super rage-y kind of way if you kill their guard or rat or whatever and it was part of some camp you didn't know about.

And wtf, AOL? This is 2019. If you were going to chat in something it would be Discord. But only weird people type instead of using a mic when given the option. And besides, having Discord doesn't prevent you from communicating in-game.

Let me clarify though - people have been super friendly and talkative if I send them messages. I've met some pretty cool people that way too. Both higher levels and lower levels. It's just been bad enough in public channels I've started to think there were unspoken rules about public communication, lmao.

edit: This has been mostly in Highkeep and then some of the outdoor zones I've leveled in. Maybe it's a bit different in big grouping hotspots at higher levels.

Yeah, I suppose so. I try to send a direct tell to people who might want a group or I want some company instead of soloing. The duo turns into a trio, then a full group where there's 3-4 mobs coming in, being CC'd and we move from mob to mob, and then more pulled. Hell, people even invite to a discord channel if the group's having a good time.

The modern communication options probably have something to do with it...telegram or discord or any other number of IMs that weren't around back in '99-2000. That and also people prolly don't split their chatwindows by category. I have a window full of guildchat, groupchat + tells, a couple spamwindows and so on.

[Ennewi]

This would have been a five-star thread if no one replied.

[Primordial Ooze]

I usually don't engage when people try to start random ooc conversations. If they're asking for advice or something I'll respond, but if they're just announcing to the zone that "oh no I just died to a green while oom/medding" and "someone's killing that beautiful pegasus!!!!" (dude in SK last week) I usually don't respond.

I figure if I engage at all, there's a fair chance he moves his inane ooc chatter to inane tells and I have an unsolicited new friend to manage.

[DinoTriz2]

This would have been a five-star thread if no one replied.

[eadric]

This would have been a five-star thread if no one replied.

:cool:

[reznor_]

This would have been a five-star thread if no one replied.

lol


I don't ooc/shout much, but I definitely chat it up in groups. It's a lot of fun to get to know new people. I duo'ed most of 55-60 with a friend, which was fun, but I definitely missed the excitement of a full group, so I still try and do that in dungeons from time to time.

[Nagoya]

i speak in /ooc all the time.
maybe you're just boring.

[Pryda]

i speak in /ooc all the time.
maybe you're just boring.

You speak? Like asking for a port? Or "CC"?

Speaking isn't indicative of a conversation or any type of discussion. So the irony in your boring reply is kinda funny.

[DinoTriz2]

This is what I do when I'm bored and want to chat:

/ooc OUCH MY TOES!!

Just at a random time. People can't help but to ask what happened to your toes. What possibly happened to this guy's toes?? It's a mystery! No one knows! They have to ask.

Once you have them on the hook, ask em if they like beans.

[tycohunden]

I had this problem on live, turns out I was on /ignore by large swathes of my server...

[Danth]

/ooc isn't used all that much for chat, especially not for chat unrelated to regular gameplay. Good. If it was constantly filled with inane banter I'd simply hide the window for it, and so would a lot of other folks.

Plenty of regular chat takes place in group and guild channels. That is as it should be.

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As for a different comment in the thread, I much prefer typing over using voice communications in video games. I wouldn't invite most of you over to my home, and I don't want to hear you, either.

Danth

[DinoTriz2]

seriously, try the toe thing

[Artaenc]

I swear I'm talking to myself in ooc/shout no matter what zone I'm leveling in. It's like the server is just completely full of mindless zombies playing without speaking or interacting.

I know I'm generalizing... but man, it's so hard to get people to engage in conversation. Unless you're in Highkeep of course and it's someone bitching about camps or something.

Ok done with my complaint. Discuss.This is the age of voice servers, most people playing are either on discord/ventrilo or teamspeak/mumble/etc. If you don't have a guild voice server try out the public one for this server.

[DromalPhrenia]

This is what I do when I'm bored and want to chat:

/ooc OUCH MY TOES!!

Just at a random time. People can't help but to ask what happened to your toes. What possibly happened to this guy's toes?? It's a mystery! No one knows! They have to ask.

Once you have them on the hook, ask em if they like beans.
I;m thinking about thos Beans

[Nagoya]

You speak? Like asking for a port? Or "CC"?

Speaking isn't indicative of a conversation or any type of discussion. So the irony in your boring reply is kinda funny.

yeah but i read your original post bro.
i know what we're talking about.

the boring part was a joke,
but in all honesty, this is what i see very often, people trying to be witty or clever in /ooc and then complain nobody wants to engage with them.

when people are legit interesting, stuff happens.

am not saying i am lol, but many times when i am bored and try to get some actions in the ooc channel that works, was my point.

when i say i speak all the time in /ooc and your reply is semantics about the meaning of speak, that tells me that maybe you're no so fun to talk to.

but hey whatever works for you, you seem to have some personnal method going on!

[Pryda]

yeah but i read your original post bro.
i know what we're talking about.

the boring part was a joke,
but in all honesty, this is what i see very often, people trying to be witty or clever in /ooc and then complain nobody wants to engage with them.

when people are legit interesting, stuff happens.

am not saying i am lol, but many times when i am bored and try to get some actions in the ooc channel that works, was my point.

when i say i speak all the time in /ooc and your reply is semantics about the meaning of speak, that tells me that maybe you're no so fun to talk to.

but hey whatever works for you, you seem to have some personnal method going on!

What are you, 14 or something? Lmao. You literally responded trying to insult me for no reason. Now you cry about it being just a joke and blah blah same insult? You must be from Red. The angry semi-retarded person chiming in with dumbshit comments. Like of course people are only going to have deeper conversations about things they find interesting. Was that really your brilliant contribution? Smalltalk and general gameplay discussion don't necessarily follow that though. Like I said in a previous post, even asking general questions such as where the food vendor was would oftentimes not get a response.

Anyways, to the rest of thread. So I joined a guild last night and that chat made grinding a lot more interesting. Though too much of it slows your leveling down, lol. Leveling up solo without a guild can really get kind of lonely when all you have is public chat snoozefest. But hey, I finally got some people talking by throw out random GoT stuff. I have the guildchat now though so we should be good to go.

[Muggens]

My guess would be that youre on ignore the way you talk in here

[d3r14k]

even asking general questions such as where the food vendor was would oftentimes not get a response.

The best way to do this if you have a question is to phrase it in a way that you're giving incorrect information. People are way more likely to want to correct a wrong answer than to answer a general open query.

For example, instead of asking: "Where is the food vendor in this zone?"

Instead say: "Golly gee, this zone sucks because it has no food vendor."

You'll instanly get five /oocs and three PMs telling you not only that there is a food vendor, but where you can find him.

My guess would be that youre on ignore the way you talk in here

Also, this ^

Be nice. Especially to Nagoya.

[azeth]

People are way more likely to want to correct a wrong answer than to answer a general open query.

For example, instead of asking: "Where is the food vendor in this zone?"

Instead say: "Golly gee, this zone sucks because it has no food vendor."

You'll instanly get five /oocs and three PMs telling you not only that there is a food vendor, but where you can find him.

This is meta P99 shit right here

[Bbeta]

This would have been a five-star thread if no one replied.

Qft

[Nagoya]

Be nice. Especially to Nagoya.

Hey thanks /o/

Glad you found a guild OP, maybe you can relax a bit now ^^

[ripwind]

I was talking in Rampage guild chat earlier, but wasn't getting any responses. =/

[ZiggyTheMuss]

You sound like a weirdo, OP. I wouldn’t talk to you either!

[DromalPhrenia]

i talk all the dang time but i don't talk to YOU ahaha