Text log parsers are legal, but .....

[Eyecue]

Some text parsers offer more than what would seemingly allowed, e.g. GINA I believe has timers also built in. Is GINA an allowed parsing program, or not?

[I Felt Nostalgic]

Some text parsers offer more than what would seemingly allowed, e.g. GINA I believe has timers also built in. Is GINA an allowed parsing program, or not?

I'm going to say YES because I have seen lots of people discuss using GINA in game.

[loramin]

Some text parsers offer more than what would seemingly allowed, e.g. GINA I believe has timers also built in. Is GINA an allowed parsing program, or not?

Absolutely. The prohibition on 3rd-party software is very simple at it's heart, and there's really only one rule*: nothing the program can do can in any way affect or alter the EQ software.

* OK really there are two rules; also: programs which read anything but logs are also banned, even if they don't affect the EQ software

So GINA is perfectly legal because all it does is read the log files (legit) and show stuff on your screen separately from the EQ game (also legit). But the moment you hack your GINA to start pressing buttons for you in-game (or doing anything like that) you're cheating.

[aaezil]

If it is illegal then 90% of the playerbase is currently breaking the law!

[elwing]

Yep, gina is a mandatory raid tool on p99... What is illegal, as said are any third party soft that read status in any other way but the logs, or any software that do action in eq, that include smart keyboard with advanced macro or autofire...

[azeth]

Use Gina for timing your camps! And buffs! And FD fails! And so on!

[Jimjam]

GINA not classic. Use MQ2, it was co developed by p1999 staff which means it has great cross compatibility.

Getting banned for being caught using MQ2 is also classic.

[feanan]

Eh, same with the 3rd party mapping program that reads /loc

kind of lame, but whatcha gonna do

[Eyecue]

much thanks, all :)

[Valrok]

You can do quite alot with a bit of python knowledge and log parsing on your own. Just sayin....

[Rygar]

I discovered a way to break GINA and still keep logs classic format.

Just need to test out the code a bit more and submit to dev team for a vote. Who knows what they would say (no one asked me to do this).

Man would that make me happy to get rid of that hack unclassic program.

[DiogenesThaDogg]

/me begins to cast the gate spell.

[loramin]

You can do quite alot with a bit of knowledge of any programming language and log parsing on your own. Just sayin....

FTFY. Don't get me wrong, I <3 Python too, but it hardly has a monopoly on parsing text streams :)

[aaezil]

I discovered a way to break GINA and still keep logs classic format.

Just need to test out the code a bit more and submit to dev team for a vote. Who knows what they would say (no one asked me to do this).

Man would that make me happy to get rid of that hack unclassic program.

“Self important vindictive brown noser appeals staff to ruin enjoyment for hundreds of players”

[Rygar]

“Self important vindictive brown noser appeals staff to ruin enjoyment for hundreds of players”

If you're using Gina it's you that are ruining the classic experience

[Valrok]

I discovered a way to break GINA and still keep logs classic format.

Just need to test out the code a bit more and submit to dev team for a vote. Who knows what they would say (no one asked me to do this).

Man would that make me happy to get rid of that hack unclassic program.

Yea, it may disable it for alot of folks but it wouldn't disable much if the logs were still parsing the same information. All of what Gina does can be remade and compiled into a new .exe pretty quickly if Gina were broken.

FTFY. Don't get me wrong, I <3 Python too, but it hardly has a monopoly on parsing text streams :)

Oh absolutely Loramin but Python does do it pretty well for what we are looking at here though. Definitely does not have a monopoly on it.

[Champion_Standing]

I discovered a way to break GINA and still keep logs classic format.

Just need to test out the code a bit more and submit to dev team for a vote. Who knows what they would say (no one asked me to do this).

Man would that make me happy to get rid of that hack unclassic program.

Why would you bother when we can still use the face button? Priorities man

[nyclin]

I discovered a way to break GINA and still keep logs classic format.

Just need to test out the code a bit more and submit to dev team for a vote. Who knows what they would say (no one asked me to do this).

Man would that make me happy to get rid of that hack unclassic program.

lol you really are just a bitter asshole at this point, log parsers are classic and the fact that they rustle you so much makes me very happy

outside of delaying real-time updates to the logfile or preventing updates to it altogether, there's no way to stop someone from parsing a simple text file that's written to their hard drive

[enjchanter]

Inb4 were all bad at EQ cuz we use Gina

[guinness]

Log parsers are classic AF

[aaezil]

If you're using Gina it's you that are ruining the classic experience

You’re in ag man. Are you the only one in that guild who is too stubborn to turn on his gina?