Tstaff vs. Fungi

[rjw513]

Acquired a Tranquil staff and excited to give to my monk, but wondering if trading it for a Fungi tunic would be better off...

Other alts could benefit from the tunic, or just maybe take the plat and upgrade other areas....

How good the tstaff get after chardok revamp?

Thoughts??

[Legidias]

What lvl monk?

[rjw513]

52 monk, what's up with the Chardok patch?

is there some dmg bonus to certain 2h'ers?

i already have peacebringer.....

[feniin]

Fungi is about 100x more useful for the money. T-Staff should be seen as a toy. Fungi is nearly essential.

[Zabbix]

Fungi is a game changing item while t-staff is a Peacebringer that can hold agro for tanking. Chardok revamp is not going to be nearly the boost in dps that people think it is.

[radbeard]

Tstaff is going to be like a 10% increase in damage over peacebringer, and it stuns so you take a bit less damage there. Its nice. So if you assume things die 10% faster and they are stunned out of a little damage, while soloing you could think of it as having like 15% more hp. assuming around 2k hp its like having an extra 300hp in some sense. Compare this to a fungi which heals 15hp/tic. Over the course of a 20 minute respawn cycle this is healing 3,000hp.

Tstaff is nice but fungi is just way way way stronger.

[Bardp1999]

Its not even confirmed there will be a 2h boost or monks getting triple attack. It is my contention that these will be seen as the Luclin pre-patch and never actually make their way to P99 but who knows really.

Fungi is literally 100x better than a t staff as many have pointed out, and considering you are 52 you should be working towards your epic anyways which makes this even more of a no brainer choice.

[Ravager]

Sell it, get the fungi, then go back to leveling in Karnor's and win another.

[rjw513]

Touché

Thanks guys

[kaluppo]

Sell it, get the fungi, then go back to leveling in Karnor's and win another.

If only it were that easy.

I have been leveling in KC from 50 to 59 and in all that time I have seen four Tstaffs drop. But here is the kicker. The first three were when I was 50 and one dropped each of the first three nights I was there (christmas bonus xp weekend). So in 8 levels since then I have only seen one drop. Needless to say I am 0 for 4 on winning them. But I only have a 1 out of 6 chance to win each time so I get to lose one more before I am owed one by the laws of math.

Of course Murphy's law says I will never ever get one :eek:

[Ravager]

Yeah, that was kinda snarky of me, but keep leveling in dungeons and a person could have the plat for either a fungi or t-staff in no time. If one was patient, they could even hold out until August or September when the population is at a low and get them cheaper. If a person wanted to sell it though, between now and the end of February is the time to get the most plat for it.

[Quizlop]

Its not even confirmed there will be a 2h boost or monks getting triple attack. It is my contention that these will be seen as the Luclin pre-patch and never actually make their way to P99 but who knows really.

The melee revamp (triple attack for monks, 2h bonus, ranger buffs, attack table improvements) occurs in the same patch as the Chardok revamp, which has been confirmed, so it would be decidedly non-classic if they would choose to release Chardok without the melee buffs.

[Troxx]

Its not even confirmed there will be a 2h boost or monks getting triple attack. It is my contention that these will be seen as the Luclin pre-patch and never actually make their way to P99 but who knows really.

Yes it is confirmed. Yes it will happen. It is part of the same chardok 2.0 that has already been verified by server devs to be in the works. When? Who knows. Could be 2 weeks 2 months or 2 years.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2325403&postcount=4

IFS + Fungi >>> TStaff and no fungi.

The only drawback to selling TStaff now is the price will undoubtedly jump significantly even from where it is now when Chardok 2.0 patch hits. Knowing how the EC tunnel fat cats like to manipulate prices I wouldn’t be surprised to see a TStaff worth 3 fungis within a month or 2 of the patch hitting.

IFS will be BiS monk dps unless said monk has ToV level loot available.

But ... IFS at 38/40 is really damn close (minus the proc)

[wagorf]

i have both, and if i have to choose one to keep, it will be fungi

if betting to make a fortune by stashing tstaff is a thing, there wouldnt be so many ppl selling tstaff in the market, and it's been going on for years

[Legidias]

T staff went from 30k to 70k overnight when people started rumors, just rumors mind you, like a year ago about Chardok 2.0 and triple attack. Since then its settled back to near 40k, but its been proven how stupid people get with triple attack rumors and T staves.

[kjs86z]

Fungi and it aint close.

You'll hardly notice a difference between IFS and T Staff if you're rocking a fungi.

[rjw513]

Ifs this, ifs that..... is peacebringer right in the mix too? It weighs more so what

[Dillusional]

TStaff is clearly a better weapon than IFS at all levels....a 30 delay 2 handed weapon has a damage bonus of 17 at level 60. A 40 delay weapon will have a damage bonus of 18.

Post revamp, a 30 delay 2hander will have a 29 damage bonus at 60 and a 40 delay weapon will have a 34 damage bonus at 60 if they go by http://lucy.allakhazam.com/dmgbonus.html

Damage over time ratios at level 60 (no str mod) for IFS and TStaff:

((2 * DMG) + Bonus) / Delay

pre revamp:

IFS 2.35
Peacebringer 2.433
TSTAFF 2.5

post revamp:

IFS 2.75
Peacebringer 2.833
TSTAFF 2.9


TStaff is always the better weapon versus IFS. Peacebringer is better than IFS at level 60 (sooner than that) too... Once that damage bonus combines with the lower delay, the ratio is better than IFS.

I think fungi is more important than TStaff though, lots of good monk weapons available including IFS

[Dillusional]

Someone should post about Epic + Scepter of Mastery versus TStaff. Pre and post revamp.

[Dillusional]

Ifs this, ifs that..... is peacebringer right in the mix too? It weighs more so what

At level 52 peacebringer has a 13 damage bonus and IFS has a 14 damage bonus.

(52-25)/2 for the 30 delay weapon and (52-25)/2 + 1 for the 40 delay weapon


((2*28) + 13)/30 = 2.3 > ((2*38) + 14)/40 = 2.25

So peacebringer is the better DPS weapon versus IFS at level 52

[rjw513]

I appreciate your math, sir. Thank you!

The plan is to trade in the tstaff for a fungi <3

[Troxx]

Ifs this, ifs that..... is peacebringer right in the mix too? It weighs more so what

It weighs 6 more and looks like shit. Raw ratio on IFS is better but the delay both now and after chardok 2.0 favors the PB.

They will yield more or less the same performance. PB will always edge out but not meaningfully so. One is just much lighter and doesn’t look idiotic. For the weight alone I avoided PB and went IFS until I won a TStaff. TStaff is also 10 wt but it looks better and the ratio/proc more than make up for the high weight.

[Bardp1999]

The biggest lie on P99 is that loot matters outside of a Fungi...spoiler, it doesn't

Fungi is the only game changin item there is - haste is a distant second (maybe at 60 i guess when the haste caps are lifted to 100%).

Foot note, I finally got a 41% haste on my monk today, /CHEER, Yelinak Neck for 400 DKP

[Megalodon]

Like everybody has show, there are alternatives that get you close to TS results. There isn't anything close to fungi results you can provide for yourself. That's the difference