Spell fizzle rates with respect to spell skill

[Danth]

To make a long story short, spell skill doesn't seem to be affecting fizzle rates quite right. The most drastic example I can think of is, as a Paladin with virtually no conjuration skill, I can cast 'Halo of Light' with little trouble on P99. On Live that spell routinely fizzled away entire mana bars.

Naturally, I'm sure this issue would affect other spells, perhaps less drastically.

Danth

[nilbog]

This is a great point. My paladin spent.. a few good evenings trying to summon halos on live.

Anyone have more information or research about this?

[guineapig]

On the flip side there are times when enchanting as bar of platinum takes three tries before I succeed. This is with max skill in conjuration but does seem to mimic how that would randomly happen on live.

That being said, I agree that if you are starting with a skill of zero you should not be able to cast successfully every single time in theory... Theoretically though, you could have just had lucky rolls 100% of the time.

Everquest random number generators could be a science unto themselves. :confused::confused::confused:

[jilena]

I have noticed after this last patch I seem to be having a strange number of fizzles on spells that previously did not give me this much trouble. Like casting spirit tap (level 29 lifetap) at 38 or drain spirit (level 39 lifetap) at 43 or casting invoke fear (34) or panic the dead (29) at 40+. All of these with maxed alteration and spec alteration, getting a few groups of 3 fizzles in a row in the same night. I don't recall this ever happening to my cleric on here, double fizzles every so often but never three on a maxed out spell.

Also, still able to cast with low spell skill too easily. At 44-45 I am able to cast ignite bones (level 44 nuke - evo) with 0-10 evo skill and 0-13 spec evo after as little as 2 attempts some times. Usually takes about 5 attempts to cast it. Expected behavior from what I remember of live would be to fizzle entire mana bar.

Sorry to res an old thread but didn't seem to be any need to start a new one for similar issues.

[flednat]

As a Shaman I prob Cast Cani a few houndred times ever night. This is an Alteration based skill with Alteration spec. (lvl 50 maxed out). I find it amazing the amount (high) number of times that I will fizzle these spells. I can't remmber it being near this bad on live. (but its also been 10 years..) Its not only Cani, its all of my alteration based skills Spells I would think would fizzle very randmoly fizzle enough that its noticable and quite a pain.

[spoolie]

ya nothing like fizzling on rez with maxed skill 3 times in a row.

[Azureblaze]

Yeah as an enchanter I'm also seeing this 3 fizzles in a row issue, I never saw it before the last patch. Seems to mostly happen on Alteration spells, but I cast those the most. Have noticed it the most on Clarity. Its strange because whenever it DOES fizzle 3 times in a row it always works on attempt # 4.

Also : I remember spells fizzling a lot more at lower skill levels than they do on P99.

Back in 99 I remember having to practice my spell skills so I would be able to cast them effectively. I didn't have to bother with that on P99.

[aegohely]

I have 3 fizzle in a row for a number of times healing my xp group last night too. Same thing like the other, alteration spell only

Not sure if it's bugged too..

[Omnimorph]

Back in 99 I remember having to practice my spell skills so I would be able to cast them effectively. I didn't have to bother with that on P99.

I remember doing this.

Also invisibility (divination) would usually be a problem for me due to not having high div, Don't think i had much of a problem with this.

[Uaellaen]

i have way too many fizzles at the moment ... i fizzle on spells with maxed skill + maxed specialisation skill (for example alteration) i fizzle every couple heals, wich shouldnt realy happen at the skill level i am ... considering i am using lvl 34 and 39 heal spells, and am lvl 50 ...

ya nothing like fizzling on rez with maxed skill 3 times in a row.

been there done that on multiple occasions last night ... 700 mana spell fizzled constantly = no fun

[jettoki]

I definitely agree that I'm fizzling too much on skills I've maxed, and not fizzling nearly enough on skills near zero.

Casting a level 9 spell with 0-5 skill used to look like this:
Fizzle
Fizzle
Fizzle
Fizzle
Fizzle
Fizzle
Fizzle
Fizzle
Fizzle
Cast

On the other hand, casting a level 9 spell with maxed skill used to have about a 5% fail rate. I'm observing something more like a 15% fail rate. When grouping, I have to double-tap my heals, because they tend to fizzle the first time, despite maxed Alteration.