Wall not up

[Wonkie]

https://i.imgur.com/mGuOW1E.gif

:cool:

[feniin]

Can't wait for all the redhats to start saying they always knew he was a criminal and they never supported him.

[Mead]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upBWWm86PXU

[Cecily]

Think I can wear MAGA hat as an ironic hipster thing someday or will it always be a hate symbol?

[Mead]

Think I can wear MAGA hat as an ironic hipster thing someday or will it always be a hate symbol?

may also be able to eat a forum ban for it like swastikas

only time will tell

[Swish2]

https://i.imgur.com/j6LTrpk.jpg

[Irulan]

Every day I feel is like schrodingers wall.

[Wonkie]

No idea what thread is about

Drudge headline is dems partying on beaches during shutdown

New "breaking news" on msnbc??

wall not up

[Wonkie]

Because the Democrats prefer starving Federal employees to enforcing the Law of the Land

wall not up

[Ahldagor]

Because the Democrats prefer starving Federal employees to enforcing the Law of the Land

Congress has to write the law that the executive enforces tho'.

[loramin]

Congress has to write the law that the executive enforces tho'.

And yet despite having majorities in both houses AND having the presidency, they never did.

If one didn't know any better, it would almost look like the Republicans (or at least the President and Senate/Congressional Republicans) don't want the wall either.

[Ahldagor]

And yet despite having majorities in both houses AND having the presidency, they never did.

If one didn't know any better, it would almost look like the Republicans (or at least the President and Senate/Congressional Republicans) don't want the wall either.

That's the funny part. Congress would still have to approve funding measures in a state of emergency.

[Patriam1066]

wall not up

Haha dunk

[mickmoranis]

Can't wait for all the redhats to start saying they always knew he was a criminal and they never supported him.

When trump is elected in 2020 im going to send this to you as a PM every morning for the rest of your time on this forum.

[feniin]

When trump is elected in 2020 im going to send this to you as a PM every morning for the rest of your time on this forum.

Cool story, bro.

[mickmoranis]

Dear Diary...

[rollin5k]

super gay thread doesnt even make sense

[mickmoranis]

reminder wall UP in parts of the border, where border crossings are now not a problem.

YEE!

[mickmoranis]

https://i.imgur.com/HQ9kRmS.png

[Secrets]

Heaven has a gate, so it's proof walls work

[mickmoranis]

Every day that the government is shut down TRUMP grows stronger.

I feel the energy, I literally feel it. I feel connected to my leader in a way the liberals have never felt a connection to anything.

His energy is literally vibrating through the ground that I stand on.

[bluntfang]

Every day that the government is shut down TRUMP grows stronger.

I feel the energy, I literally feel it. I feel connected to my leader in a way the liberals have never felt a connection to anything.

His energy is literally vibrating through the ground that I stand on.

can you ship me acid?

[ScaringChildren]

Wall not up?

Nobody told Jim Acosta... (https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2019/01/10/jim-acosta-unintentionally-proves-border-walls-work/)

[mickmoranis]

Wall not up?

Nobody told Jim Acosta... (https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2019/01/10/jim-acosta-unintentionally-proves-border-walls-work/)

The joke was on CNN Legend (in his own mind) Jim Acosta earlier today. Acosta traveled to a walled section of the US-Mexico border to prove that Trump’s “manufactured” national emergency did not exist, but instead wound up proving that border walls work.

[loramin]

that border walls work.

To do what exactly? You may or may not have been following the recent trial of a certain drug overlord, but if you had you'd know that Mexico's biggest drug kingpin smuggled all of his drugs not through the "gaps" in the border, but through the "protected" parts (in turns out some border patrol agents can be bribed with large sums of money: who could have guessed?)

Since they certainly don't protect us from criminals, what exactly would a multi-billion dollar waste of money do for America again? Oh right, stop immigrants ... the exact kind of people that literally everyone in America (except Native Americans) are descended from.

USA! USA! USA!

[Wonkie]

galaxy lib: this murderous drug smuggler proves walls are bad! redhats hate him!

[mickmoranis]

To do what exactly?

It helps the border patrol reduce illegal immigration. As they (walls) do where they exist, as they do in isreal, as they do everywhere you have immigration policy.

Why do you pretend like the wall is some kind of existential threat?

[feniin]

It helps the border patrol reduce illegal immigration. As they (walls) do where they exist, as they do in isreal, as they do everywhere you have immigration policy.

Why do you pretend like the wall is some kind of existential threat?

Why do you pretend like the largest percentage of illegal immigrants are coming via open border crossing?

[rollin5k]

They are self loathing pieces of shit and since they hate themselves and live in America they hate america and therefore think its ok for other nations people to come shit on us and come get free rides.

[feniin]

They are self loathing pieces of shit and since they hate themselves and live in America they hate america and therefore think its ok for other nations people to come shit on us and come get free rides.

lol you are such a hateful piece of shit :rolleyes:

[rollin5k]

got em

[misterbonkers]

They are self loathing pieces of shit and since they hate themselves and live in America they hate america and therefore think its ok for other nations people to come shit on us and come get free rides.

i don't think you understand how deductive reasoning works, buddy

[mickmoranis]

Why do you pretend like the largest percentage of illegal immigrants are coming via open border crossing?

Because most illegal border crossings from Canada are for non extended stay, meaning people coming down to partake in entertainment.

Also you're free to put a wall up there if you want to, by all means, go right ahead.

[feniin]

Because most illegal border crossings from Canada are for non extended stay, meaning people coming down to partake in entertainment.

Also you're free to put a wall up there if you want to, by all means, go right ahead.

Most come from overstayed visas. You know that already, you just like to be an annoying fuck all the time.

[mickmoranis]

Most come from overstayed visas. You know that already, you just like to be an annoying fuck all the time.

and those are not having the impact that the illegal migrants from teh south are having on our job market and economy because the type of work they do is not so easily payed under the table.

You are so far out of your element.

but by all means, BUILD A WALL along vermont if you are so inspired by the ONE article that is being re-written by cnn and the rest of your fake news outlets that has inspired you to type your quandary in the first place.

[feniin]

and those are not having the impact that the illegal migrants from teh south are having on our job market and economy because the type of work they do is not so easily payed under the table.

You are so far out of your element.

but by all means, BUILD A WALL along vermont if you are so inspired by the ONE article that is being re-written by cnn and the rest of your fake news outlets that has inspired you to type your quandary in the first place.

Or is there no such economic impact and you're mostly just afraid of brown, non-english speakers infiltrating your white neighborhood? oh dear, the races are mixing! they're not speaking english! *pearl clutching intensifies*

[mickmoranis]

The southern border crossings made up for 8 million jobs taken by illegal immigrants in 2016 (https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/110th-congress-2007-2008/reports/12-6-immigration.pdf).

yeah there is no impact.

[feniin]

The southern border crossings made up for 8 million jobs taken by illegal immigrants in 2016 (https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/110th-congress-2007-2008/reports/12-6-immigration.pdf).

yeah there is no impact.

I wish you could actually read.

DECEMBER 2007

[mickmoranis]

oops wrong link, anyway the facts remain there were 11 illegal immigrants in 2016 and southern illegal immigrants made up for 5% of the american workforce, thats 8 million jobs.

but since you can only find some way to say poooppooop face then o well.

[JurisDictum]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60nf5ZNBs9Y&t=5m30s

This is the one. Just skip the annoying parts about 2 guys getting high.

The comment section for this video is overrun with people saying shit like: Megyn Kelly talked about blackface and was fired. Sarah Silverman DOES blackface and here career thrives. The difference? Kelly is politically on the right and Silverman is politically on the left.

[Foxplay]

Wall is a rare spawn, you gatta poopsock it and get FTE

[mickmoranis]

Wall is a rare spawn, you gatta poopsock it and get FTE

but it WILL spawn. :cool:

[feniin]

but it WILL spawn. :cool:

Go down there and wait for it. :cool:

[ScaringChildren]

I can't wait to see the wall in all its glory

[feniin]

I can't wait to see the wall in all its glory

I wonder what will happen first: the wall being built or pantheon being released. :cool:

[loramin]

I wonder what will happen first: the wall being built or pantheon being released. :cool:

https://i.imgur.com/xgz9nkR.gif

[ScaringChildren]

I wonder what will happen first: the wall being built or pantheon being released. :cool:

Well considering the wall is up at some portions of the border, the wall happened first.

[mickmoranis]

This just in: Liberals believe more that a spy, subverted detection for over 60 years, was elected president, and is secretly working with the russians to ????

...more than they do, that a wall can be built.

[feniin]

This just in: Liberals believe more that a spy, subverted detection for over 60 years, was elected president, and is secretly working with the russians to ????

...more than they do, that a wall can be built.

Not a spy, just an immoral puppet.

[feniin]

Well considering the wall is up at some portions of the border, the wall happened first. talking about the wall shitforbrains is seeking funding to build. Stop being a pedant.

[Supreme]

I wonder what will happen first: the wall being built or pantheon being released. :cool:

Seems that there is a lot of misconception of what "Build the wall" really means and to who.

I think for most of us that have any kind of advanced degree (or clarity of thought) know that $5.7 billion is not going to be enough to build a wall from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific Ocean. That's roughly 1900 miles. Currently there is about 700 miles of border fencing along the southern border spanning 4 states. Trump wants to build another 1000 miles of border "wall" with the remainder being natural obstacles and barriers (mountains, rivers, desert etc).

The $5.7b is to improve existing border security, hire more agents, more detention facilities, more technology and yes even a "little bit" more wall. What the $5.7b wont build is a barrier from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific Ocean. That will likely cost $30-50 billion and would take YEARS to complete.

[mickmoranis]

Not a spy, just an immoral puppet.

changed your mind from 12 hours ago hah cant wait to see what facts you believe in tomorrow morning.

[Wonkie]

Seems that there is a lot of misconception of what "Build the wall" really means and to who.

I think for most of us that have any kind of advanced degree (or clarity of thought) know that $5.7 billion is not going to be enough to build a wall from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific Ocean. That's roughly 1900 miles. Currently there is about 700 miles of border fencing along the southern border spanning 4 states. Trump wants to build another 1000 miles of border "wall" with the remainder being natural obstacles and barriers (mountains, rivers, desert etc).

The $5.7b is to improve existing border security, hire more agents, more detention facilities, more technology and yes even a "little bit" more wall. What the $5.7b wont build is a barrier from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific Ocean. That will likely cost $30-50 billion and would take YEARS to complete.

ok so not a wall

wall not up

[ScaringChildren]

talking about the wall shitforbrains is seeking funding to build. Stop being a pedant.

Uh, his wall is already up in problem areas of the border..

[feniin]

changed your mind from 12 hours ago hah cant wait to see what facts you believe in tomorrow morning.

What? Are you making shit up again?

[feniin]

Uh, his wall is already up in problem areas of the border..

0.2% of the entire length of the border?:rolleyes:

[Throndor]

That will likely cost $30-50 billion and would take YEARS to complete.

Remember when we built the Hoover Dam in 5 years?

Wish we had that kind of perserverence and goal-oriented laser focus nowadays. Still waiting on California's bullet-train to nowhere. It's been an ongoing project for 12 years now without much track laid. The CEO of the bullet train to nowhere makes more than the CEO of Amtrak, too.

[mickmoranis]

Im saying this not to be like feniin who, believes in some fantasy, im saying this because this is life, and this is just how life goes.

The wall is going to be built.

I know it sucks, but life is shitty.

Move on.

This is happening.

[ScaringChildren]

0.2% of the entire length of the border?:rolleyes:

Actually, one-third of the border has fencing or a wall.

[feniin]

Actually, one-third of the border has fencing or a wall.

I feel like your reading comprehension is slipping, bud.

[Supreme]

I feel like your reading comprehension is slipping, bud.

Makes incoherent statements.

Questions reading comprehension of others.

:confused:

[LazyHydras]

How bout the Democratic party (and I mean that literally) in Puerto Rico? I hear that Bob Menendez has been throwing back a few peach daiquiris with his Pfizer lobbyist buddies.

[Wonkie]

a fence is a wall like a fish needs a bicycle

[tkelly5]

This just in: Liberals believe more that a spy, subverted detection for over 60 years, was elected president, and is secretly working with the russians to ????

...more than they do, that a wall can be built.

Moving goalposts, thy name is MAGAhatter.

No one has ever accused Trump of being a spy for Russia. They've accused him of being compromised by the Russian government in the form of A) Blackmail in the form pictures of Trump being peed on by prostitutes, B) Documents proving a history of illegal business activities, and C) Ongoing financial incentives in the form of 'pay to play', thus creating both a stick (the blackmail) and a carrot (ongoing payments). This variety and method of compromising a foreign national, known as 'kompromat', is a hallmark of the Russian intelligence community. No one credible is suggesting that the Russian government intended to create some kind of 'Manchurian Candidate' when they developed this kompromat on Trump. Rather, they developed this over the past several decades as a matter of course, as a matter of standard practice of the Russian intelligence community in regards to foreign investors.

When Trump started to receive support in his Presidential run, the Russian intelligence agency shit themselves at their good fortune. They were in a position to blackmail a, surprisingly, legitimate Presidential candidate. Someone smart at FIS convinced the powers that be to see the bigger picture. If they could *support* Trump, they might not have a candidate to blackmail, they might have a nominee to blackmail. The absolute worst case outcome, from the FIS perspective was some chaos and erosion of trust in the US political system, and that's still a win. What happened is what no sane person would have predicted, and Trump was elected to the office of President.

Their investment in kompromat on foreign investors having paid off beyond their wildest dreams, the Russian government in the form of Putin and his top advisors began to consider how they might put their ability to blackmail the President of the United States to use. Unsurprisingly, they immediately thought of themselves and their most important supporters - the Russian oligarchs who had $16 Billion frozen due to US sanctions on Russia. Trump recently moved to relax those sanctions.

That seems an awfully lot more convincing than a guy who said, "I'm gonna build a wall and we're gonna make Mexico pay for it!", now refusing to allow the government to function unless the US taxpayer funds his wall, ever actually getting his wall. Or fence. Or short garden hedge. Not to mention that even should reality completely cease being reasonable, and Trump somehow winds up with funding for his monument to his own idiocy, nothing would be getting built for years.

Let's consider what building a wall means. Well, it requires an environmental impact assessment. That takes a few months to complete. ANd then it can be challenged by anyone with an interest in that stretch of land. Nearby landowners, environmentalists, anyone who might have a problem with how the funds were secured assuming congress doesn't specifically appropriate money for a wall, and even people who would live on the other side of it. The bigger stretch of land you're talkin about, the more people that have an interest in it, and they all have a legal right to present their arguments to a judge and jury about why the wall shouldn't be built how it is, where it is, by whom, or even when it is. ANd some of them will win. And then the plans will have to be changed. And thats just an environmental assessment. You wanna talk eminent domain and the legal battles that will go on each and every time the federal government has to use that?

The Keystone XL pipeline started over a decade ago, and still hasn't finished. As much attention as has been brought to that, it's nowhere near the lightning rod that building a wall on the southern border is. Trump and his tribe would be lucky to be able to get a shovel into the ground on any kind of wall construction in the next decade.

[Jimjam]

a fence is a wall like a fish needs a bicycle

If you like fish sticks then you may be bike curious.

[mickmoranis]

Why oppose the wall? Why not just move on?

[Jimjam]

Why oppose the wall? Why not just move on?Building a wall is socialist big government. The land along the border should be owned privately and the security of that land the responsibility of the land owner. If any trafficking occurs through that land then the owner is an accessory to a federal crime and should be charged appropriately.

I've had enough of you commies looking to the government for help and hand outs.

[mickmoranis]

oh ok so shut the goverment down indefinitly im not ooposed.

[feniin]

oh ok so shut the goverment down indefinitly im not ooposed.

"Take as much sauce as you want, there's enough for everybody" -Trump

[Swish2]

Walls don't work if you can fly in and disappear on a tourist visa that'll expire.

[Bones]

I am by no means a trump koolaid drinker but I really don't understand the liberals with this one...

Defense budget got increased to 716 BILLION dollars approved by congress and not a single bleeding heart liberal said a word.

But now they are flailing about bitching and screaming about 5.7 billion for a wall, they claim the wall wont change anything and its a waste of money, you never hear them crying this loud about the billions we waste elsewhere, usually from liberal policies.

It's almost like there's a blatant ulterior motive here that has nothing to do with trying to save 5.7 billion dollars. I think they are afraid it will work and prove Trump right and that scares the shit out of liberals more than anything.

They are willing to risk american citizens safety and let illegal border hopping run rampant if it means they don't have to admit Trump or conservatives are right. I'm so sick of the liberals today not having any knowledge of a situation other than just gobbling up everything spoon fed to them by CNN its fucking disgusting.

[Bones]

Walls don't work if you can fly in and disappear on a tourist visa that'll expire.

so you are saying thats the only form of illegal immigration that occurs? Nobody is crossing the rivers and hopping fences? Do you honestly believe that? The wall isn't going to stop 100% of it overnight but if you secure the physical border you can focus resources elsewhere to fight the other kinds of illegal immigration such as the one you mentioned.

[Mead]

I just want to see trump get cockblocked

Hope this helps

[feniin]

It's more about not giving into the whims of a racist, wanna-be dictator who seems to have no regard for the law.

Doesn't matter anyway. He's going to fabricate some national emergency and try to bypass the other branches of government with over reaching executive power and the redhats will eat it up.

[ScaringChildren]

Walls don't work if you can fly in and disappear on a tourist visa that'll expire.

We'll just add a "Mexican" setting to the metal detectors in our airports then.

The border still needs to be secure.

[ScaringChildren]

It's more about not giving into the whims of a racist, wanna-be dictator who seems to have no regard for the law.

Doesn't matter anyway. He's going to fabricate some national emergency and try to bypass the other branches of government with over reaching executive power and the redhats will eat it up.

I bet you were the type of dude who thought Trump would be gassing handicapped homosexuals in the first few months, huh?

[Ahldagor]

Seems that there is a lot of misconception of what "Build the wall" really means and to who.

I think for most of us that have any kind of advanced degree (or clarity of thought) know that $5.7 billion is not going to be enough to build a wall from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific Ocean. That's roughly 1900 miles. Currently there is about 700 miles of border fencing along the southern border spanning 4 states. Trump wants to build another 1000 miles of border "wall" with the remainder being natural obstacles and barriers (mountains, rivers, desert etc).

The $5.7b is to improve existing border security, hire more agents, more detention facilities, more technology and yes even a "little bit" more wall. What the $5.7b wont build is a barrier from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific Ocean. That will likely cost $30-50 billion and would take YEARS to complete.

Bear in mind that there was a bill approved by congress in December that the President rejected because it was money earmarked for those specifics and not a wall.

[Mead]

Ya real mature

[LazyHydras]

Are you all daft enough to think that a border wall is just about the number of illegal immigrants in our country?

A porous border is a very attractive and cost-efficient route to smuggle drugs, guns, and terrorists. Yes, I am aware there are no incidents of terrorists having come through the border, but it doesn't mean that it isn't a real concern.

[Mead]

Yes, I am aware there are no incidents of terrorists having come through the border, but it doesn't mean that it isn't a real concern.

https://i.imgur.com/WcLeVmJ.jpg

[LazyHydras]

https://i.imgur.com/WcLeVmJ.jpg

Yes? Do you wait until you have a heart attack before you change your diet? Or do you stop wolfing down cheeseburgers because you understand what can happen if you don't?

[Mead]

Yes? Do you wait until you have a heart attack before you change your diet? Or do you stop wolfing down cheeseburgers because you understand what can happen if you don't?

if I worried about problems that don't exist then I would be like you

and I'm not

[LazyHydras]

if I worried about problems that don't exist then I would be like you

and I'm not

Is it a HUGE problem? No. I am more worried about the thousands of Americans dying due to fentanyl smuggled across the Mexican border.

But, it doesn't mean that, in your words, it "Doesn't exist. (https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/jordanian-national-arrested-new-york-face-charges-conspiracy-bring-aliens-united-states)"

[Irulan]

I wasn't going to log in and post again, but lol.

Building a wall is socialist big government. The land along the border should be owned privately and the security of that land the responsibility of the land owner. If any trafficking occurs through that land then the owner is an accessory to a federal crime and should be charged appropriately.

I've had enough of you commies looking to the government for help and hand outs.

If u ask me these Trumpers are a buncha flaming sissies. Can't even defend themselves with Freeeeedommmmm. Have to beg me to do it for them. 🤣😂🤣🤣🤣

👍

[Irulan]

Is it a HUGE problem? No. I am more worried about the thousands of Americans dying due to fentanyl smuggled across the Mexican border.

But, it doesn't mean that, in your words, it "Doesn't exist. (https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/jordanian-national-arrested-new-york-face-charges-conspiracy-bring-aliens-united-states)"

Those Americans should have quick and ready access to cost effective and humane euthanasia. As well as maybe the many drugs that would allow them to live OTC.

Now stop being a fucking Tugger. I would skull fuck you regardless of your gender. Even if it requires prosthetics. Made in China.
L

[LazyHydras]

Those Americans should have quick and ready access to cost effective and humane euthanasia. As well as maybe the many drugs that would allow them to live OTC.

Now stop being a fucking Tugger. I would skull fuck you regardless of your gender. Even if it requires prosthetics. Made in China.
L

You made me lul just a little bit. Thanks. :)

[Wonkie]

Walls don't work if you can fly in and disappear on a tourist visa that'll expire.

bingo. unless we're going full Esthar closing every border and barring foreign entry(not happening) the wall is just a dopamine hit for the bigoted.

[ScaringChildren]

bingo. unless we're going full Esthar closing every border and barring foreign entry(not happening) the wall is just a dopamine hit for the bigoted.

Overstaying visas only account for about half of the illegal immigration.

We will tackle overstaying visas too.

[mickmoranis]

"lets pretend we reduce border crossings by 40-60% did you know that I thought you guys thought the wall would reduce all illegal immigration into america by 100% dOi iM A ReTaRd"

-the left.

[Wonkie]

Overstaying visas only account for about half of the illegal immigration.

We will tackle overstaying visas too.

Hillary would have passed both 2 years ago without any kerfluffle. Make better choices in the future.

[LazyHydras]

bingo. unless we're going full Esthar closing every border and barring foreign entry(not happening) the wall is just a dopamine hit for the bigoted.

See my last post. The wall isn't just about people being here illegally. It is about the criminal underground that surrounds illegal smuggling of all kinds. CBP captures loads of creatively smuggled (e.g: cocaine in frozen shrimp shipments) illegal cargo at ports and airports every day. We don't just throw up our hands and say "Well, it'll come in anyway," we do what we can to prevent it from happening, or to make it much more difficult, expensive, and time-consuming for smugglers to do so.

$5 billion for the border wall (or steel-slatted barrier) is ONE MONTH in Afghanistan. It is also approximately HALF of the $10.6 billion in development aid that we have pledged to Mexico and Central America. Just putting the dollar amount in perspective.

[mickmoranis]

Hillary would have passed both 2 years ago without any kerfluffle. Make better choices in the future.

even if that were true it would be at the cost of you having to shave off what's left of your penis.

[Irulan]

to be fair, although the scale of the real problem is tiny, our insane and paranoid response to it would be catastrophic.

see: everyone removes their shoes and gets naked scanned because of shoe loser and flaming pants brown

I like genocide. Especially the ugly ones. Make the wall cool. And pretty. Let's not pussyfoot around it. Capitalism is supposed to enable this. So the cruft can be disposed. Why is everyone pretending to be virtuous?

[Wonkie]

even if that were true it would be at the cost of you having to shave off what's left of your penis.

if immigration is such a big problem vote for the candidate with a long history of effective legislative solutions to fix it.

e: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/109-2006/s262

New York
Yea D Clinton, Hillary NY
Yea D Schumer, Chuck NY

[Irulan]

I had Mexican trannies accuse Obama of brown genocide that's why they voted Trump.

This is fucking real lol. People are so god damned stupid ignorant and ineffective.

Get ready for 30 more years of seasawing on this bullshit until we globally segfault at a minimum.

[mickmoranis]

why do democrats not care about federal employee's?

#endTheShutdown #buildTheWall

[Irulan]

why do democrats not care about federal employee's?

#endTheShutdown #buildTheWall

We don't want a federal government welfare state.

Stop being a pussy.

[ScaringChildren]

Hillary would have passed both 2 years ago without any kerfluffle. Make better choices in the future.

Hillary wouldn't have moved from the golden throne she would've made herself.

She'd be sitting there for two years with a demented smile on her face.

CNN would probably spin the news about her bed sores as something positive.

[mickmoranis]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2019/01/15/government-shutdown-2019-five-ways-federal-shutdown-wastes-money/2573961002/

I cant believe the democrats have done this.

[Irulan]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2019/01/15/government-shutdown-2019-five-ways-federal-shutdown-wastes-money/2573961002/

I cant believe the democrats have done this.

It takes two to tango buttercup.

💃

[Irulan]

Also u guys aren't entitled to a federal job or paycheck lol.

You realize if Trump wasn't a flaming wigger our house of representatives wouldn't have flipped and you would still have control over the government?

Food for thought.

We could be building a wall. But nope. People gotta be angry little bitches.

[Madbad]

wall still not up

[Wonkie]

wall still not up

[mickmoranis]

why dont the democrats care about all the people on federal food stamps I mean payroll why are they doing this??

HOW can socialism work if you keep shutting down the government?

[Madbad]

With our president its more like national socialism

[ScaringChildren]

With our president its more like national socialism

https://i.imgur.com/hEFZ5z0.jpg

[Irulan]

why dont the democrats care about all the people on federal food stamps I mean payroll why are they doing this??

HOW can socialism work if you keep shutting down the government?

I'm not on or eligible for pizza vouchers.

[Irulan]

I'd like to clarify that I am totally willing to pay for a wall / home improvement projects. I just don't think the dems care.

It's not cuz Trump. He's a shining beacon of conviction in our brave new world. He's done more than most illustrating how we govern ourselves and indeed, attempt to govern the rest of the world.

[ScaringChildren]

New ABC/WaPo Poll shows that support for a border wall among swing voters soared in the last year, while opposition to the wall sharply dropped off (https://twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1084481308808675329)

[Patriam1066]

wall still not up

[ScaringChildren]

Government still not up

[Mead]

Government still not up

lol

this is why you and mick are less than trash

noone is my immediate family are suffering because of this vanity project, but i have friends I served with that are feeling the squeeze. True American heroes that don’t believe in putting up a wall. Fortunately they have friends like me that won’t let them suffer.

[maskedmelon]

democrats have 235 people committed to keeping the government shutdown. that's pretty gross tbh.

[maskedmelon]

lol

[ScaringChildren]

lol

this is why you and mick are less than trash

noone is my immediate family are suffering because of this vanity project, but i have friends I served with that are feeling the squeeze. True American heroes that don’t believe in putting up a wall. Fortunately they have friends like me that won’t let them suffer.

Your friends are unnecessary. No one needs them.

Government still not up.

[Patriam1066]

lol

this is why you and mick are less than trash

noone is my immediate family are suffering because of this vanity project, but i have friends I served with that are feeling the squeeze. True American heroes that don’t believe in putting up a wall. Fortunately they have friends like me that won’t let them suffer.

While I support you and your friends in principle, if you’re ok with illegal immigration, you’re on the wrong side of Jupiter. The issue is non negotiable. If you violate the territorial integrity of the United States, you must be punished.

[Ahldagor]

democrats have 235 people committed to keeping the government shutdown. that's pretty gross tbh.

Shutdown began with GOP majority in congress. Dog and pony show's in full swing.

[maskedmelon]

Shutdown began with GOP majority in congress. Dog and pony show's in full swing.

and democrats have continued it. sad.

[ScaringChildren]

and democrats have continued it. sad.

[mickmoranis]

lol

this is why you and mick are less than trash

noone is my immediate family are suffering because of this vanity project, but i have friends I served with that are feeling the squeeze. True American heroes that don’t believe in putting up a wall. Fortunately they have friends like me that won’t let them suffer.

are you trying to claim moral high ground because on an elf sim forum you post about how you don't like the shutdown while doing the same nothing that I am doing about it?

hard cringe.

[Patriam1066]

and democrats have continued it. sad.

This one’s entirely on trump. Why wasn’t the wall funded with republicans in control of the house? Because it wasn’t politically expedient. Now it is. They want to make the dems look like NLs and pussies

Mission accomplished (I guess), but we already knew that about the Democratic Party, and I repeat, WALL STILL NOT UP

[misterbonkers]

and democrats have continued it. sad.

weird, everything i've found says mitch mcconnell is republican

strange

[Irulan]

So, I thought we were going to kill each other in a bloody civil war about bathroom access, and here we are ready to go to total war, for, a wall...

¡Makes me proud to be an American¡ :rolleyes:

[mickmoranis]

weird, everything i've found says mitch mcconnell is republican

strange

are you seriously trying to tell me that you honestly think the democratic party is fair, balanced, different than the GOP party?

LOL

hows that universal healthcare they lied to you about?

hows the whistleblowers they sent to jail?

hows that war they never ended?

hows that prison in cuba they told you they would shut down?

hows that military build up in the pacific?

U know right now theyre spinning the same party politics agenda to empower democrat candidates, not fix anything.

you know right now they have you and everyone wrapped around their fingers, like any other political party?

The ability for you people to live in cognitive dissonance jus so you can play this democrat party vs republican party is honestly sad.

You hate corporations then say the corporation that literally runs your life cant possibly be anything like the corporations that you hate.

[misterbonkers]

are you seriously trying to tell me that you honestly think the democratic party is fair, balanced, different than the GOP party?

LOL

hows that universal healthcare they lied to you about?

hows the whistleblowers they sent to jail?

hows that war they never ended?

hows that prison in cuba they told you they would shut down?

hows that military build up in the pacific?

U know right now theyre spinning the same party politics agenda to empower democrat candidates, not fix anything.

you know right now they have you and everyone wrapped around their fingers, like any other political party?

The ability for you people to live in cognitive dissonance jus so you can play this democrat party vs republican party is honestly sad.

You hate corporations then say the corporation that literally runs your life cant possibly be anything like the corporations that you hate.

do we reopen gov't before or after we draft the articles?

[Wonkie]

guys im starting to think the wall wont get built :(

wall never up

[mickmoranis]

who cares if its built or not?

[LazyHydras]

Which do you prefer? A wall? Or a steel slatted barrier?

[Irulan]

Can we get a firewall. Like cazic has?

We could totally just pump a stream of oil into the rio grand and ignite it. How damn cool that would be!

[feniin]

Can we get a firewall. Like cazic has?

We could totally just pump a stream of oil into the rio grand and ignite it. How damn cool that would be!

Yeah, just have the terminal end of the Keystone XL empty into the Rio Grande

[Irulan]

Yeah, just have the terminal end of the Keystone XL empty into the Rio Grande

Awwwww yissssss!

Crying emotional tears of nostalgia right now.

[kaizersoze]

https://i.imgflip.com/1dpbu5.jpg

[mickmoranis]

the funnything is the probability of a wall being built

is a lot higher

than the probability that the president is a russian spy

[ScaringChildren]

Government still not up

[mickmoranis]

Government still not up

😂

[Jarnauga]

i thought mexico was paying for it, i didn't know they had a vote in congress :confused:

[ScaringChildren]

i thought mexico was paying for it, i didn't know they had a vote in congress :confused:

They're paying for it through trade deficits.

Try and keep up.

[Jarnauga]

They're paying for it through trade deficits.

Try and keep up.

https://i.imgur.com/Sf8Wuak.png

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c2010.html

..what trade deficits ? :p

Also, unless the USA became soviet USA overnight, trade money goes into private businesses, so i fail to see how that helps fund anything government related :rolleyes:

[nostalgiaquest]

They're paying for it through trade deficits.

Try and keep up.

I keep hearing this, but no one seems to have any details. Could you please explain to me how exactly trade deficits and the renegotiated NAFTA will fund this wall? All the articles i find, including from fox news, can't seem to explain it.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2019/jan/04/donald-trump/no-usmca-trade-deal-wont-pay-border-wall-despite-d/

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/12/is-mexico-paying-for-the-wall-through-usmca/

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/ap-fact-check-trumps-theory-about-mexico-trade-that-wall

[Wonkie]

https://i.imgur.com/Sf8Wuak.png

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c2010.html

..what trade deficits ? :p

Also, unless the USA became soviet USA overnight, trade money goes into private businesses, so i fail to see how that helps fund anything government related :rolleyes:

Hey, when Trump said Mexico will pay for it, he clearly meant "the change in net ratio of ammortized imports will offset construction resouce output over 10 fiscal years"

Anyone who disagrees has Trump Derangement Syndrome

[Jimjam]

soviet USA

So you too have noticed comrade Trump is doing an East Germany, kick starting the national steel industry through government sponsored initiatives to build an iron curtain? :D

[ScaringChildren]

https://i.imgur.com/Sf8Wuak.png

https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c2010.html

..what trade deficits ? :p

Also, unless the USA became soviet USA overnight, trade money goes into private businesses, so i fail to see how that helps fund anything government related :rolleyes:

Do you see that the number is negative?

Please tell me you are not this retarded.

[Jarnauga]

Do you see that the number is negative?



https://i.imgur.com/AOXFNso.gif

Since you don't seem to be bright, here is a toddler explaination for you:

https://i.imgur.com/zAipHx8.png

As you can see, the USA imports MORE than they export to mexico. Mexico doesn't have a trade deficit, the US has.

Of course you don't need to believe me.. how about the trump government => https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/mexico

U.S. goods and services trade with Mexico totaled an estimated $615.9 billion in 2017. Exports were $276.2 billion; imports were $339.8 billion. The U.S. goods and services trade deficit with Mexico was $63.6 billion in 2017.


Please tell me you are not this retarded.

https://i.imgur.com/JDNPbNo.gif

[feniin]

https://i.imgur.com/AOXFNso.gif

Since you don't seem to be bright, here is a toddler explaination for you:

https://i.imgur.com/zAipHx8.png

As you can see, the USA imports MORE than they export to mexico. Mexico doesn't have a trade deficit, the US has.

Of course you don't need to believe me.. how about the trump government => https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/mexico





https://i.imgur.com/JDNPbNo.gif

People tell SC he has a great mind. One of the best. His cousin is a nuclear scientist. Real big brain. Good genes.

[ScaringChildren]

https://i.imgur.com/AOXFNso.gif

Since you don't seem to be bright, here is a toddler explaination for you:

https://i.imgur.com/zAipHx8.png

As you can see, the USA imports MORE than they export to mexico. Mexico doesn't have a trade deficit, the US has.

Of course you don't need to believe me.. how about the trump government => https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/mexico





https://i.imgur.com/JDNPbNo.gif

Dude, you're a complete idiot.

You have the data backwards.

That's not the US, it's Mexico.

LOL

Fucking retard :D

[feniin]

Dude, you're a complete idiot.

You have the data backwards.

That's not the US, it's Mexico.

LOL

Fucking retard :D

Someone is sad and salty today. Upset that your world is crumbling around you? Blame a brown person!

[ScaringChildren]

Someone is sad and salty today. Upset that your world is crumbling around you? Blame a brown person!

How bout that Buzzfeed story, eh?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[feniin]

How bout that Buzzfeed story, eh?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Who reads Buzzfeed? Are you 12?

[ScaringChildren]

Who reads Buzzfeed? Are you 12?

LOL I agree, it's a bunch of fake news.

Mueller told me :D

[loramin]

How bout that Buzzfeed story, eh?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Translation: I just lost an argument I spent several pages defending (yet again), so allow me to change the topic to something I hope I'll have more luck with.

[ScaringChildren]

Translation: I just lost an argument I spent several pages defending (yet again), so allow me to change the topic to something I hope I'll have more luck with.

Speaking of lost, man did you guys lose your ass with the Buzzfeed fake news

Hahahahahahahahahah

[ScaringChildren]

How many Buzzfeed sources does it take to screw in a light bulb?

None, but Jason is a 100% confident they could do it if they existed.

[Wonkie]

wall not up

[ScaringChildren]

Knock knock

Who's there?

Mueller.

Mueller who?

Mueller said the Buzzfeed report was fake news.

[mickmoranis]

buzzfeed article source still unknown

[ScaringChildren]

buzzfeed article source still unknown

Couple of theories:

1) Buzzfeed totally made up the sources and story.

2) Someone deep and trusted is a Trump supporter and fed Buzzfeed bad info, knowing they wouldn't be revealed as a source because outing a source when they want to be anon is a death sentence for a journalist.

[feniin]

Fact: Trump waited until now - the third year of his presidency - to address this "critical national security threat". He could have gotten it passed easily his first two years, but no - he focused on a tax cut and trying to take away healthcare.

[aaezil]

Good president not up

[ScaringChildren]

Good president not up

Oh shit! GOT EM!

[ScaringChildren]

Fact: Trump waited until now - the third year of his presidency - to address this "critical national security threat". He could have gotten it passed easily his first two years, but no - he focused on a tax cut and trying to take away healthcare.

Fact: wall prototypes were built all the way back in 2017

[Irulan]

I think Trump is totally working for the dems. Wall is going to go up. Republican party demonized. Wall is going to be on going political issue the dems outrage over but do nothing about even with a majority.

I say we just give Trump every thing he wants. Obummer care repeal. No trannies in military. And his religious freedom executive orders. Wall.

It will do this country a world of good if we stop bitching about this shit and using it as an excuse to back retarded shitty ass politicians.

[Throndor]

I think Trump is totally working for the dems. Wall is going to go up. Republican party demonized. Wall is going to be on going political issue the dems outrage over but do nothing about even with a majority.

I say we just give Trump every thing he wants. Obummer care repeal. No trannies in military. And his religious freedom executive orders. Wall.

It will do this country a world of good if we stop bitching about this shit and using it as an excuse to back retarded shitty ass politicians.


Right?! Let King Ecgbert of North Umbria have his ice cream!

[Mead]

my steel stocks are going to skyrocket if this steel barrier does go up

[feniin]

SC is really off his meds today.

[ScaringChildren]

SC is really off his meds today.

What can I say? I'm taking a victory lap.

Mueller demolished Buzzfeed's bombshell HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHHA:cool::D:D:D:D:D

[feniin]

What can I say? I'm taking a victory lap.

Mueller demolished Buzzfeed's bombshell HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHHA:cool::D:D:D:D:D

And when Mueller demolishes the legitimacy of Trump's presidency?

[ScaringChildren]

And when Mueller demolishes the legitimacy of Trump's presidency?

I wouldn't get your hopes up (https://thehill.com/homenews/media/425179-abcs-karl-sources-say-mueller-report-is-almost-certain-to-be-anti-climactic)

Especially when you're relying on Buzzfeed hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

I can't stop - it's just too funny

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[feniin]

I don't know why you think I care about the BuzzFeed article. I didn't post anything about it, I didn't read it, I don't care. I just want you to be ready to apologize to everyone for being an asshole for the last three years for no reason other than your blind devotion to a criminal liar.

[ScaringChildren]

I don't know why you think I care about the BuzzFeed article. I didn't post anything about it, I didn't read it, I don't care. I just want you to be ready to apologize to everyone for being an asshole for the last three years for no reason other than your blind devotion to a criminal liar.

Will you apologize that the Left mindlessly reports fake news to try to bring down Trump?

Mueller, of all people, smacked you guys down hahahahahahahahaha

[feniin]

Hey, if Mueller's report comes out and it exonerates Trump I'll eat crow. But I find the likelihood extremely low. At best he was completely ignorant that everyone around him was a criminal and collaborating with a foreign government to alter the course of our elections. At worse he was actively involved in the same plot. Either way, that should disqualify him from leading this country by any reasonable metric.

[ScaringChildren]

Hey, if Mueller's report comes out and it exonerates Trump I'll eat crow. But I find the likelihood extremely low. At best he was completely ignorant that everyone around him was a criminal and collaborating with a foreign government to alter the course of our elections. At worse he was actively involved in the same plot. Either way, that should disqualify him from leading this country by any reasonable metric.

You won't eat crow NOW, what reason should I believe you will later?

Lololololol

[feniin]

You won't eat crow NOW, what reason should I believe you will later?

Lololololol

Sorry you're mentally ill. I'll stop picking on you.

[mmmroo]

To do what exactly? You may or may not have been following the recent trial of a certain drug overlord, but if you had you'd know that Mexico's biggest drug kingpin smuggled all of his drugs not through the "gaps" in the border, but through the "protected" parts (in turns out some border patrol agents can be bribed with large sums of money: who could have guessed?)

Since they certainly don't protect us from criminals, what exactly would a multi-billion dollar waste of money do for America again? Oh right, stop immigrants ... the exact kind of people that literally everyone in America (except Native Americans) are descended from.

USA! USA! USA!


Ya so this means they should just open the borders shut down border security all together and just let them flow in !! why have border security at all!? if a few can be bribed! Heck guy's think of all the money that would be saved on patrolling the southern border! That money could be spent on Millennial infrastructure that could save lives.

[loramin]

Ya so this means they should just open the borders shut down border security all together and just let them flow in !! why have border security at all!? if a few can be bribed! Heck guy's think of all the money that would be saved on patrolling the southern border! That money could be spent on Millennial infrastructure that could save lives.

No, it just means we should live in reality and not in fantasy land.

And in reality, building a giant 2k mile-long wall (do you have any idea how freakishly large of an area we are talking about here?) is a terrible waste of a staggeringly large amount money, that won't actually solve any problems (or at least won't solve problems worth even a small fraction of how much it costs).

The only people who support the wall are people who are both ignorantly fearful of all things foreign and stupid enough to think a wall is a good idea. Even the rest of the ignorantly fearful people are smart enough to want modern technological solutions to border security.

[mmmroo]

No, it just means we should live in reality and not in fantasy land.

And in reality, building a giant 2k mile-long wall (do you have any idea how freakishly large of an area we are talking about here?) is a terrible waste of a staggeringly large amount money, that won't actually solve any problems (or at least won't solve problems worth even a small fraction of how much it costs).

The only people who support the wall are people who are both ignorantly fearful of all things foreign and stupid enough to think a wall is a good idea. Even the rest of the ignorantly fearful people are smart enough to want modern technological solutions to border security.

Here are a few walls that work, and some still working... Walls are great for keeping people out of areas due to the height and that poor humans don't have jetpacks yet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Wall_of_China

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_West_Bank_barrier

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadrian%27s_Wall

The wall in Israel is very effective. People who are against the wall usually have Trump hate syndrome nothing more, especially since both Clinton and Obama called for funding of the wall also. Hypocrisy is out of control due to Trump hate syndrome.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/424039-trump-quotes-obama-clinton-in-wall-pitch

And here is some education on the Russian BS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngIKjpucQh8&fbclid=IwAR1hEnNAQs-WFn4iC-JIAaj4latTPgBgR6t6E6--mgUQL0-kQG7A0WbVSp4

[Patriam1066]

Speak English. Sorry Spanish is a shit language. Build the wall. Also, tired of Latin women giving me a woody at the gym

[feniin]

Here are a few walls that work, and some still working... Walls are great for keeping people out of areas due to the height and that poor humans don't have jetpacks yet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Wall_of_China

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_West_Bank_barrier

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadrian%27s_Wall

The wall in Israel is very effective. People who are against the wall usually have Trump hate syndrome nothing more, especially since both Clinton and Obama called for funding of the wall also. Hypocrisy is out of control due to Trump hate syndrome.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/424039-trump-quotes-obama-clinton-in-wall-pitch

And here is some education on the Russian BS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngIKjpucQh8&fbclid=IwAR1hEnNAQs-WFn4iC-JIAaj4latTPgBgR6t6E6--mgUQL0-kQG7A0WbVSp4

https://i.imgur.com/Qj0NnFA.png

This one went well, too. Right?

[Patriam1066]

https://i.imgur.com/Qj0NnFA.png

This one went well, too. Right?

It was effective at its purpose, yes

[mmmroo]

https://i.imgur.com/Qj0NnFA.png

This one went well, too. Right?


WHat is your point? yes that is the Berlin wall. Please elaborate on your thoughts...

[Wonkie]

It was effective at its purpose, yes

also a symbol of the evil empire, according to Saint Ronnie :)

[ScaringChildren]

also a symbol of the evil empire, according to Saint Ronnie :)

That awkward moment when you realize the Vatican has a border wall...

[mmmroo]

also a symbol of the evil empire, according to Saint Ronnie :)

Lol East Germany was surveillancing the people just like the NSA does to the USA and the world today. Where is the outrage, oh wait there is none...

[Wonkie]

That awkward moment when you realize the Vatican has a border wall...

how effective is it at keeping people out?

[ScaringChildren]

how effective is it at keeping people out?

It did great in the 9th century when Pope Leo needed them for protection against attacks.

The city is a glorified tourist trap today, so they opened it all up.

[Wonkie]

It did great in the 9th century when Pope Leo needed them for protection against attacks.

The city is a glorified tourist trap today, so they opened it all up.

cool too bad about the invention of gunpowder lmao

[ScaringChildren]

cool too bad we've had gunpowder for centuries now.

which is why we no longer build castles TYL

Yeah, are Mexican migrants going to attack our walls with black powder cannons now?

Or wait...jetpacks? Poor Mexican migrants all have jetpacks.

[Wonkie]

Yeah, are Mexican migrants going to attack our walls with black powder cannons now?

Or wait...jetpacks? Poor Mexican migrants all have jetpacks.

cartels: well known for having very little weaponry

[feniin]

WHat is your point? yes that is the Berlin wall. Please elaborate on your thoughts...

Do you not care about human rights? Honest question.

[ScaringChildren]

cartels: well known for having very little weaponry

This is why you patrol the wall.

You know, for the rare occurrence when the cartel uses a black powder cannon to shoot a hole in your wall.

While the rest of the wall is nice and secure, keeping out the 99.9% of the others.

[ScaringChildren]

Do you not care about human rights? Honest question.

The guy wants you to elaborate.

Nowhere did he say that he didn't care about human rights.

The classic "So what you are saying..." argument tactic...

[Wonkie]

This is why you patrol the wall.

You know, for the rare occurrence when the cartel uses a black powder cannon to shoot a hole in your wall.

While the rest of the wall is nice and secure, keeping out the 99.9% of the others.

you don't need a wall for that. make the border patrol into an above living wage jobs program. put that money in people's mouths instead of pouring it into the dirt.

socialism wins again.

[feniin]

The guy wants you to elaborate.

Nowhere did he say that he didn't care about human rights.

The classic "So what you are saying..." argument tactic...

HAHAHAHAHA RACISTS DON'T CARE ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS GOTTEM

[ScaringChildren]

HAHAHAHAHA RACISTS DON'T CARE ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS GOTTEM

....yikes :o

[feniin]

....yikes :o

That's exactly how you post, little guy.

[ScaringChildren]

you don't need a wall for that. make the border patrol into an above living wage jobs program. put that money in people's mouths instead of pouring it into the dirt.

socialism wins again.

Not cost effective.

The wall is 24/7 security.

You'd be horrible at running a business or country.

[ScaringChildren]

That's exactly how you post, little guy.

I actually make sense.

[Tenderizer]

OP is aaa..

https://i.imgur.com/Klu52sd.jpg

[mmmroo]

Do you not care about human rights? Honest question.


Yes i do a lot actually. you? your lack of explanation for your first comment is getting old.

[Wonkie]

Not cost effective.

The wall is 24/7 security.

You'd be horrible at running a business or country.

the strength of a wall is not in its stones, but in the men and women who guard it.

[ScaringChildren]

the strength of a wall is not in its stones, but in the men and women who guard it.

That implies that we ALSO have a wall in place.

Do you support the wall now? Lmao

[Wonkie]

That implies that we ALSO have a wall in place.

Do you support the wall now? Lmao

it implies the wall is unnecessary to the action.

im not up for semantic antics rn scram

[mmmroo]

HAHAHAHAHA RACISTS DON'T CARE ABOUT HUMAN RIGHTS GOTTEM

Wanting border protection or wall = Racist? Your an idiot. Protecting the border = protecting human rights within the borders of tax paying citizens lands. Open border madness = lose of human rights to citizens due to overwhelmed infrastructure, social services, schools, food, water... So in reality YOUR against human rights of your own countrymen the WORST (Traitor).

[feniin]

I actually make sense.

:rolleyes:

[loramin]

Here are a few walls that work, and some still working... Walls are great for keeping people out of areas due to the height and that poor humans don't have jetpacks yet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Wall_of_China

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_West_Bank_barrier

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadrian%27s_Wall

The wall in Israel is very effective. People who are against the wall usually have Trump hate syndrome nothing more, especially since both Clinton and Obama called for funding of the wall also. Hypocrisy is out of control due to Trump hate syndrome.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/424039-trump-quotes-obama-clinton-in-wall-pitch

And here is some education on the Russian BS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngIKjpucQh8&fbclid=IwAR1hEnNAQs-WFn4iC-JIAaj4latTPgBgR6t6E6--mgUQL0-kQG7A0WbVSp4

Really? Your best response is the freaking wall of China, Hadrian's wall, and Israel? Yeah, let's go with ancient Roman and Chinese solutions to all our modern problems: who needs Penicillin when you have tiger dick, amiright? Or maybe, just maybe, what worked against a bunch of mongols or barbarians won't work to stop people in 2019.

As for the Israeli west bank barrier, it's a fraction of the size and it's effectiveness is somewhat questionable. The amount of attacks in Israel did go down after it went up, but A) there were other factors causing the decline, and B) it's not like terrorist attacks stopped entirely.

More importantly, it's a completely different situation. Again, have you been following the El Chapo trial? He did not smuggle his drugs through the unprotected parts of the border: he went through the protected parts and bribed guards. And that's exactly what's going to keep happening even if the wall does get built. Comparing it to Israel's situation (where it's a heck of a lot harder to bribe Israeli guards to let Palestinians carrying bombs through) is moronic.

So again, come back to me when you want to live in reality instead of idiot xenophile fantasy propaganda land.

[ScaringChildren]

it implies the wall is unnecessary to the action.

im not up for semantic antics rn scram

Sorry I dunked on you so hard that you ran away :(

[ScaringChildren]

Really? Your best response is the freaking wall of China, Hadrian's wall, and Israel? Yeah, let's go with ancient Roman and Chinese solutions to all our modern problems: who needs Penicillin when you have tiger dick, amiright? Or maybe, just maybe, what worked against a bunch of mongols or barbarians won't work to stop people in 2019.

As for the Israeli west bank barrier, it's a fraction of the size and it's effectiveness is somewhat questionable. The amount of attacks in Israel did go down after it went up, but A) there were other factors causing the decline, and B) it's not like terrorist attacks stopped entirely.

More importantly, it's a completely different situation. Again, have you been following the El Chapo trial? He did not smuggle his drugs through the unprotected parts of the border: he went through the protected parts and bribed guards. And that's exactly what's going to keep happening even if the wall does get built. Comparing it to Israel's situation (where it's a heck of a lot harder to bribe Israeli guards to let Palestinians carrying bombs through) is moronic.

So again, come back to me when you want to live in reality instead of idiot xenophile fantasy propaganda land.

Or you know, we can actually look at the data.

Here's the data for Israeli wall and Hungarian wall (http://checkyourfact.com/2017/09/18/fact-check-have-israeli-and-hungarian-border-walls-proven-remarkably-effective/)

Walls are effective no matter what your retarded propaganda pumps into your head.

[mmmroo]

Really? Your best response is the freaking wall of China, Hadrian's wall, and Israel? Yeah, let's go with ancient Roman and Chinese solutions to all our modern problems: who needs Penicillin when you have tiger dick, amiright? Or maybe, just maybe, what worked against a bunch of mongols or barbarians won't work to stop people in 2019.

As for the Israeli west bank barrier, it's a fraction of the size and it's effectiveness is somewhat questionable. The amount of attacks in Israel did go down after it went up, but A) there were other factors causing the decline, and B) it's not like terrorist attacks stopped entirely.

More importantly, it's a completely different situation. Again, have you been following the El Chapo trial? He did not smuggle his drugs through the unprotected parts of the border: he went through the protected parts and bribed guards. And that's exactly what's going to happen if the wall does get built. Comparing it to Israel's situation (where it's a heck of a lot harder to bribe Israeli guards to let Palestinians carrying bombs through) is moronic.

So again, come back to me when you want to live in reality instead of idiot xenophile fantasy propaganda land.

They were examples of massive walls that worked at one time, The Israel wall is very effective even though your down playing it.

El chapo is one drug smuggler, there are other issues like human trafficking, and illegal migrants. To ignore all the other major issues at the border because of one piece on El Chapo's smuggle ops is insane. Get your head out of the sand man. As i commented before the illegals that are pouring over into America are overwhelming infrastructure, social services, water, food, schools causing human rights issues to American citizens. I think Tax paying citizens of America deserve better than illegals.

[Wonkie]

Sorry I dunked on you so hard that you ran away :(

https://i.imgur.com/FlsUfiL.gif

[ScaringChildren]

https://i.imgur.com/FlsUfiL.gif

Does the gif make the hurt go away?

[mmmroo]

Does the gif make the hurt go away?

Lol yep all they got is words like xenophile, and racist to spit out without any real substance. Classic regurgitation of rhetoric they hear on mainstream brainwashing outlets.

[Wonkie]

Lol yep all they got is words like xenophile, and racist to spit out without any real substance. Classic regurgitation of rhetoric they hear on mainstream brainwashing outlets.

it's nice of you to charge his JO crystal

[Jarnauga]

Dude, you're a complete idiot.

You have the data backwards.

That's not the US, it's Mexico.

LOL

Fucking retard :D

ignorance is strength

[feniin]

Lol yep all they got is words like xenophile, and racist to spit out without any real substance. Classic regurgitation of rhetoric they hear on mainstream brainwashing outlets.

Did you finish middle school?

What PRACTICAL purpose does a border wall with a non-hostile nation solve? Does it let you stop clutching your pearls a little, hoping it keeps out some brown people that won't affect your life at all?

Should be leading by example and embracing our neighbors rather than trying to put up a fence to keep them out. Get out of your bunker/basement and start making friends. People are inherently good. Idiots like you are why we have fear mongering everywhere to make you think you need a gun, alarm system, and locks on your doors that have to stay locked 24/7.

Only time we ever locked (or even closed) the door when I was growing up was when we left the house or went to sleep. Now you have a generation growing up fearing everyone because the rightwing media has them convinced that everyone is out to get them.

[ScaringChildren]

ignorance is strength

When you mix up and confuse the data, it does not make you strong.

And nice 1984 reference.

You and other Leftists have a LOT to learn from it.

[ScaringChildren]

Lol yep all they got is words like xenophile, and racist to spit out without any real substance. Classic regurgitation of rhetoric they hear on mainstream brainwashing outlets.

It's like they're stuck, repeating the same lines word for word.

Almost like an NPC.

[feniin]

When you mix up and confuse the data, it does not make you strong.

And nice 1984 reference.

You and other Leftists have a LOT to learn from it.

I really hope there's a De-Trumpification after this clown is out of office. Best thing that could have happened in Germany after the war.

[mmmroo]

Did you finish middle school?

What PRACTICAL purpose does a border wall with a non-hostile nation solve? Does it let you stop clutching your pearls a little, hoping it keeps out some brown people that won't affect your life at all?

Should be leading by example and embracing our neighbors rather than trying to put up a fence to keep them out. Get out of your bunker/basement and start making friends. People are inherently good. Idiots like you are why we have fear mongering everywhere to make you think you need a gun, alarm system, and locks on your doors that have to stay locked 24/7.

Only time we ever locked (or even closed) the door when I was growing up was when we left the house or went to sleep. Now you have a generation growing up fearing everyone because the rightwing media has them convinced that everyone is out to get them.

Your the one who can't seem to read, i explained why the wall is needed... Human rights related, something you virtue signaled about earlier so buddy read up.:D

[ScaringChildren]

I really hope there's a De-Trumpification after this clown is out of office. Best thing that could have happened in Germany after the war.

So what you're saying is...

You want to genocide all Trump supporters?? :eek:

[Wonkie]

I really hope there's a De-Trumpification after this clown is out of office. Best thing that could have happened in Germany after the war.

we had our shot and gave up early. it was called Reconstruction :)

[ScaringChildren]

we had our shot and gave up early. it was called Reconstruction :)

You guys had your revolution back in 1917.

[mmmroo]

When you mix up and confuse the data, it does not make you strong.

And nice 1984 reference.

You and other Leftists have a LOT to learn from it.

A lot of leftists are delusional about this (Orwell's, 1984) They seem to think referencing quotes from 1984 helps their cause. But in reality 1984 is talking about the left's behaviour happening now... It's rather shocking how delusional they are on this reference.

[Wonkie]

You guys had your revolution back in 1917.

no amnesty for slavers :eek:

[loramin]

Or you know, we can actually look at the data.

Here's the data for Israeli wall and Hungarian wall (http://checkyourfact.com/2017/09/18/fact-check-have-israeli-and-hungarian-border-walls-proven-remarkably-effective/)

Walls are effective no matter what your retarded propaganda pumps into your head.

Scarred child you once again failed at basic reading. A literate person would have continued through the post to the part where I pointed out it's a lot harder to bribe an Israeli guard to let a Palestinian terrorist through than it is to bribe a US border patrol guard to let drugs/people/whatever through.

So yeah, if you completely ignore what I said (not to mention lots of other confounding arguments) then yes, the Israel wall is perfect evidence for why the US-Mexico will succeed!

They were examples of massive walls that worked at one time, The Israel wall is very effective even though your down playing it.

And leeches "worked" one time too. But again, we're talking about the present day, and fantasizing about medieval strategies working modern times is fantasy, not living in reality.

El chapo is one drug smuggler, there are other issues like human trafficking, and illegal migrants.

So, even if we have a wall that's a million miles high and literally covers every foot of the border (a physical impossibility) ... bribing guards for all of the things you mentioned won't work because ...?

To ignore all the other major issues at the border because of one piece on El Chapo's smuggle ops is insane. Get your head out of the sand man.

No, living in fantasy land instead of reality is insane. I'm not the one arguing forcefully for a point I can't even defend properly.

As i commented before the illegals that are pouring over into America are overwhelming infrastructure, social services, water, food, schools causing human rights issues to American citizens.

Once again with choosing to live in fantasy land.

Look, when only one channel tells you you're right, that's a bad sign. I can go to ABC, NBC, CBS, NPR, even the BBC, or countless other reputable and unbiased other news/media organizations, and they'll all show me reasonable, logical, and rational people making reasonable, logical, rational arguments. Or I can go to Fox News and see "the immigrants are ruining everything!!!".

One of the two is reality, and one is fantasy.

[mmmroo]

So what you're saying is...

You want to genocide all Trump supporters?? :eek:

Showing their true colors, never takes long for them to peel away the sheeps clothing to reveal the wolf.

[feniin]

So what you're saying is...

You want to genocide all Trump supporters?? :eek:

Do you really think that's what happened after the war? I know you didn't finish middle school but, really, try to keep up.

[mmmroo]

Look, when only one channel tells you you're right, that's a bad sign. I can go to ABC, NBC, CBS, NPR, even the BBC, or countless other reputable and unbiased other news/media organizations, and they'll all show me reasonable, logical, and rational people making reasonable, logical, rational arguments. Or I can go to Fox News and see "the immigrants are ruining everything!!!".

One of the two is reality, and one is fantasy.


ALL of your sources are proven to be fake news controlled by a few. Stay in your fantasy land, i don't care if you suffocate in your little bubble you have created. Life goes on for the sane.

[feniin]

ALL of your sources are proven to be fake news controlled by a few. Stay in your fantasy land, i don't care if you suffocate in your little bubble you have created. Life goes on for the sane.

rofl

You guys are hilarious. Seriously. If everyone is calling you an asshole, you're probably an asshole.

[mmmroo]

rofl

You guys are hilarious. Seriously. If everyone is calling you an asshole, you're probably an asshole.


That is a great quote hahaha, some real critical thinking right there haha.

[ScaringChildren]

Scarred child you once again failed at basic reading. A literate person would have continued through the post to the part where I pointed out it's a lot harder to bribe an Israeli guard to let a Palestinian terrorist through than it is to bribe a US border patrol guard to let drugs/people/whatever through.

So yeah, if you completely ignore what I said (not to mention lots of other confounding arguments) then yes, the Israel wall is perfect evidence for why the US-Mexico will succeed!

Please tell me about you guard bribery expertise!

Did you major in bribing guards in college??

[Wonkie]

Please tell me about you guard bribery expertise!

Did you major in bribing guards in college??

Plata O Plomo

[feniin]

That is a great quote hahaha, some real critical thinking right there haha.

I see you went SC's school of laugh if you can't actually refute a statement! Good job!

You're clearly an idiot without any sort of self awareness.

I know it's hard for you understand, seeing as you're likely a narcissistic troll, but chances are, if 9/10 people are calling you an asshole, going to ahead and just guess that you're probably an asshole. Seems pretty logical to me.

[mmmroo]

I see you went SC's school of laugh if you can't actually refute a statement! Good job!

You're clearly an idiot without any sort of self awareness.

I know it's hard for you understand, seeing as you're likely a narcissistic troll, but chances are, if 9/10 people are calling you an asshole, going to ahead and just guess that you're probably an asshole. Seems pretty logical to me.

No one has called me an asshole yet, except you i suppose. Name calling tends to be end game for you folk.

[loramin]

Please tell me about you guard bribery expertise!

Did you major in bribing guards in college??

Really, that's the best you've got? I completely shredded your argument, you ignored my shredding, I re-shredded, and all you can do is ... challenge my expertise on bribery? Really? :eek:

I mean, I know you're a weak debater, but you're not a moron. Surely you could do better. Or (I know this is radical), there's always the option of apologizing and admitting you're wrong ...

You guys are hilarious. Seriously. If everyone is calling you an asshole, you're probably an asshole.

Couldn't have said it better myself. But we all know real assholes will continue to deny that they're assholes no matter how many people tell them they are ...

... well, except this guy:
https://i.imgur.com/diB1vlb.gif?1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgpZ0fUixs)
No one has called me an asshole yet, except you i suppose. Name calling tends to be end game for you folk.

(... to your face.)

Also, when someone so completely refuses to engage in an intellectually honest debate, really all that's left is name calling. As proof see the vast, vast majority of RnF and Off Topic threads :)

[mmmroo]

Really, that's the best you've got? I completely shredded your argument, you ignored my shredding, I re-shredded, and all you can do is ... challenge my expertise on bribery? Really? :eek:

I mean, I know you're a weak debater, but you're not a moron. Surely you could do better.



Couldn't have said it better myself. But we all know real assholes will continue to deny that they're assholes no matter how many people tell them they are ... not that that has anything to do with this thread ...

Asshole Song:
https://i.imgur.com/diB1vlb.gif?1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgpZ0fUixs)


... to your face.

I am an asshole for having a differing opinion, i can see the leftist future now... 1984 here we come. Fascists that can't handle differing opinions. One day a thread like this will be illegal due to people such as yourself. Mark my words:eek:

[feniin]

No one has called me an asshole yet, except you i suppose. Name calling tends to be end game for you folk.

It's the same thing as EVERY news outlet IN THE WORLD minus the ones controlled by Rupert Murdoch and authoritarian dictatorships calling Trump on his bullshit. You can continue to deny the evidence but the fact of the matter is that Trump's lowered our standing in every metric imaginable.

Destablizing our relationships with allies, trade partners, and domestically seems to be the end goal for this regime. You guys are eating it up like the good little sheep he wants you to be. And we're going to end up worse for it in every way. Our trade partners aren't going to want to give us equitable trade agreements, allies will be less likely to assist us with our military engagements and treaties, and cooperative political and social discourse is going to take a long time to recover at this rate.

Instead they've essentially done the will of Russian and Saudi billionaires in order to enrich the most wealthy individuals across the globe without any concern for the rest.

[feniin]

lol even Howard Stern knows this Wall is a charade.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/howard-stern-says-trumps-border-wall-wont-solve-immigration-problems-just-something-morons-can-get-behind-155923330.html

“The wall’s a problem because it’s a waste of money, even Donald knows that,” Stern said. “You gotta know Donald a bit to understand what’s going on here. The wall’s a simplistic answer to our problems with immigration. It’s something that, you know, morons can get behind because they’re like, ‘Oh, yeah, if you build a wall no one can get over it.’ But it’s not that simple.”

[loramin]

I am an asshole for having a differing opinion

Dude, this has nothing to do with opinions. Opinions are things people have when they disagree on something that can't clearly be established. You have an opinion that your sports team is better than another's, because the season hasn't started yet and no one can establish who is better. But after your team wins the Super Bowl/World Series/etc. it's no longer an opinion, because then the facts have been established.

No one here is trying to tell you to change your opinions. Ok, well we are, but long before that we're just trying to get you to exist in the same reality as us. Understand the same facts as us. See the world for what it is, not what people have told you it is.

And sure we're all subjective human beings limited by our subjective consciousness, and no one has any monopoly on the truth of reality ... but again, when a whole lot of people all agree on one truth, and only a limited number of people with a clear bias believe an opposite truth, only one of those truths can actually be reflected in reality, and the odds are in favor of the unbiased many over the biased few.

The majority isn't always right, but usually when a whole bunch of people call you an asshole, you are in fact an asshole (no matter what your mom or Faux News tells you).

[feniin]

Dude, this has nothing to do with opinions. Opinions are things people have when they disagree on something that can't clearly be established. You have an opinion that your sports team is better than another's, because the season hasn't started yet and no one can establish who is better. But after your team wins the Super Bowl/World Series/etc. it's no longer an opinion, because then the facts have been established.

No one here is trying to tell you to change your opinions. Ok, well we are, but long before that we're just trying to get you to exist in the same reality as us. Understand the same facts as us. See the world for what it is, not what people have told you it is.

And sure we're all subjective human beings limited by our subjective consciousness, and no one has any monopoly on the truth of reality ... but again, when a whole lot of people all agree on one truth, and only a limited number of people with a clear bias believe an opposite truth, only one of those truths can actually be reflected in reality, and the odds are in favor of the unbiased many over the biased few.

The majority isn't always right, but usually when a whole bunch of people call you an asshole, you are in fact an asshole (no matter what your mom or Faux News tells you).
Loramin speakin' truth today. Blue needs to be down more often.

[mmmroo]

It's the same thing as EVERY news outlet IN THE WORLD minus the ones controlled by Rupert Murdoch and authoritarian dictatorships calling Trump on his bullshit. You can continue to deny the evidence but the fact of the matter is that Trump's lowered our standing in every metric imaginable.

Destablizing our relationships with allies, trade partners, and domestically seems to be the end goal for this regime. You guys are eating it up like the good little sheep he wants you to be. And we're going to end up worse for it in every way. Our trade partners aren't going to want to give us equitable trade agreements, allies will be less likely to assist us with our military engagements and treaties, and cooperative political and social discourse is going to take a long time to recover at this rate.

Instead they've essentially done the will of Russian and Saudi billionaires in order to enrich the most wealthy individuals across the globe without any concern for the rest.

Where were you when Clinton, Bush, and Obama were destabilizing the middle east? are you racist? Do you not care about them? Politicians with silver tongues have been destabilizing the world for a long time... Trump is trying to pull the troops out of that area finally under a lot of warmonger democrat pressure to stay and continue to create more refugee crisis that then pour into neighbouring countries. If you cared at all you would have been crying during Bush's reign of terror instead we now see Bush on the Ellen show being praised LOL. The left has gone mad and has amnesia about true evil that was perpetrated by Obama's genocidal drone program and the genocide of the Libyan people by Hillary Clinton. Trump is actually trying to create peace over there while the left is sounding the war horn and drums. You people make me sick.

[Wonkie]

Where were you when Clinton, Bush, and Obama were destabilizing the middle east? are you racist? Do you not care about them? Politicians with silver tongues have been destabilizing the world for a long time... Trump is trying to pull the troops out of that area finally under a lot of warmonger democrat pressure to stay and continue to create more refugee crisis that then pour into neighbouring countries. If you cared at all you would have been crying during Bush's reign of terror instead we now see Bush on the Ellen show being praised LOL. The left has gone mad and has amnesia about true evil that was perpetrated by Obama's genocidal drone program and the genocide of the Libyan people by Hillary Clinton. Trump is actually trying to create peace over there while the left is sounding the war horn and drums. You people make me sick.

proactive wickedness is the price of cheap gas

[feniin]

Where were you when Clinton, Bush, and Obama were destabilizing the middle east? are you racist? Do you not care about them? Politicians with silver tongues have been destabilizing the world for a long time... Trump is trying to pull the troops out of that area finally under a lot of warmonger democrat pressure to stay and continue to create more refugee crisis that then pour into neighbouring countries. If you cared at all you would have been crying during Bush's reign of terror instead we now see Bush on the Ellen show being praised LOL. The left has gone mad and has amnesia about true evil that was perpetrated by Obama's genocidal drone program and the genocide of the Libyan people by Hillary Clinton. Trump is actually trying to create peace over there while the left is sounding the war horn and drums. You people make me sick.

You've either got selective memory or you're just an idiot. Nearly everyone on the planet was against Bush's invasion of Iraq. Afghanistan was essentially necessary to placate the masses after 9/11. They wanted retribution and that was the easiest target since Saudi Arabia was off the table.

Every democrat I know was against Obama's continuation of the wars in the Middle East. You're being extremely hyperbolic calling the drone program genocidal. It saved US Military lives while being dubiously legal. I don't believe anyone was particularly happy with any continued combat in the Middle East.

What sort of Libyan Genocide are you fictitiously imagining that Hillary Clinton led?

Trump doesn't understand anything that resembles geo-politics or how to negotiate a peace agreement. He's the "take my ball and go home" type of guy who is going to pull out troops while leaving Erik Prince and his private military to ravage the locals.

Get the fuck out of here with your whataboutisms and come back when you know what you're talking about. You're an asshole and your views are that of an asshole.

[mmmroo]

proactive wickedness is the price of cheap gas


Yep that is why when the left bring up human rights it's laughable to me.

[misterbonkers]

same shit different username

wall not up

[mmmroo]

What sort of Libyan Genocide are you fictitiously imagining that Hillary Clinton led?




Really man?

Alright your credibility is out the window, i am done.

[ScaringChildren]

Really, that's the best you've got? I completely shredded your argument, you ignored my shredding, I re-shredded, and all you can do is ... challenge my expertise on bribery? Really? :eek:


Let's see...

You're trying to claim walls don't work because guards can be bribed. Then you claim one country's guards are easier to bribe for....no reasons whatsoever.

Sorry, refresh me, do border guards stand around in the middle of the desert waiting for poor Mexicans to give them 2 pesos to pass on by?

Do you not see how retarded your argument is?

[Wonkie]

Yep that is why when the left bring up human rights it's laughable to me.

same but about, like, everyone

[mmmroo]

same but about, like, everyone

Not everyone ignores what is happening in the war zones and how it created the refugee crisis to begin with.

[feniin]

Really man?

Alright your credibility is out the window, i am done.

Thanks for the informative post!

[Wonkie]

Not everyone ignores what is happening in the war zones and how it created the refugee crisis to begin with.

paying attention doesn't stop it. you can't stop it.

[mmmroo]

Thanks for the informative post!

https://www.google.com/