View Full Version : Gotta make dat $$$
MuffinCITY
01-07-2019, 07:37 PM
Terrible level 16 Ranger here - I've been killing bandits and rabid beasts in the wilds of the Karanas the past few days and doing turn ins for xp/plat. I'm hoping to ding 17 and learn dual wield tonight but have no offhand... I'm using a 10/22 dagger with a velium proc that a super nice adventurer hooked me up with but I keep reading about people that have acquired thousands of pp by this level, wtf am I doing wrong? I've got about 150pp and that's after quite a bit of slaughtering. Any suggestions for a mainhand to replace the dagger and move it to offhand, or something cheapish to buy for my offhand? It's going to be a long run to get to the commons, should I just hold off and wait until I have more plat? Thanks in advance everyone, the community here has been an amazing source of info and encouragement (except for the multitude of people telling me i'm an idiot for rolling ranger and to roll druid instead - lol)
Foxplay
01-07-2019, 07:50 PM
At super low level not much you can do to make huge amounts of plat, there is very few low level stuff that has high worth
Some things are however
Rusty spiked shoulder pads - from Black burrow are worth 200 to 250p or something a pop and enchanters love stockpiling these as they give them to their charm pets for minus Magic resistance
Shralok Packs - 100p per , Kith forest has a 6min spawn named orc ph is a Giant spider hes pretty low level (don't remember exact level off top of my head) can kill him up to 8 packs then go sell them and go back to farming him (this will be terrible exp thou)
Bonechips - 10p a stack
If you can scrounge up 500p get a Crystaline short sword, probably best bang for your buck although might be a better ranger only weapon out there that I am not aware of
Jimjam
01-07-2019, 10:42 PM
I find it best to stockpile plat/XP hand ins until the thing that drops them no longer gives good XP. This means you get a large plat/XP injection when you finish a lucrative area.
If you hand in the items as you find them you end up kind of bypassing the area too quickly.
The good news is you have plenty of plat for a nice ratio item. You can definitely get a sword of skyfire and a silver swiftblade within your budget.
I will suggest that honestly the quality of your offhand weapon really doesn't matter initially. It will barely ever swing until you have practiced it a lot. A little known trick is that duel wield will still level up, even when using a shield (I think it skill checks at a delay as if you were using a fist, but obviously it never swings). Maybe just keep going with your shield til 20 then get 10 levels of use out of your speedy 2 handed.
MuffinCITY
01-07-2019, 11:33 PM
I appreciate the tips my friends! I'll look in to all of these options and tough it out until 20 I think, then re-evaluate the plat situation. Would be nice to have some 1handers and a 2hander to switch between... more bandit blood must be spilled!
Lojik
01-07-2019, 11:34 PM
A lot of people who have acquired that much plat by your level have either spent lots of time in EC or camped the nybright sisters in lesser fay. I haven't done that camp in years but I imagine it's still a tough camp to get due to it being popular (and lucrative.)
Tethler
01-07-2019, 11:55 PM
I hear lightstones quest with the karana gypsies is good money. You sell the reward back to them or something. Havent done it myself though cause the Karanas bore the hell out of me.
Dreenk317
01-08-2019, 03:32 AM
As lojik said, sisters in lfay are the only actually lucrative camp at that level, imo. 3pp a pop roughly, vendor a 2 min run away.
Swish2
01-08-2019, 05:04 AM
Do silver swiftblades still go for around 100pp? Good starter ranger wep <3
Diogene
01-08-2019, 08:15 AM
Maybe farm some lava rocks / drop of mercury / swirling mist that sells for about 10 to 50p each (lavastorm steamfont mnts & najena). Hint : sell to Arleigh in tunnel, he needs em for dwarven /high elf cultural.
Otherwise, farming low quality cat / wolves pelt and work on your tailoring (about 35) and start selling leather paddings for 200p a stack. I remember that lvl5 monk who made 3k in about a week (intense, but somehow it works, no competition and easy).
Getting pp takes patience and dedication anyway. Thats the main thing here in classic EQ
theonesler
01-08-2019, 09:39 AM
When the zone isn't busy you can also try Crushbone for CB Belts and Pads or you can head to WC for Deathfist Belts. At your level you can run through CB mobs pretty quick and get a lot of belts.
MuffinCITY
01-08-2019, 11:07 AM
Great suggestions here! I ended up getting a few lightstones/greater lightstones and turning them in to Mrysila (sp?) in North Karana. The Greater Lightstones give an item that sells for almost 10pp so that was a pretty good one, I think the bandit sashes are still the best source of xp/plat though. My baby decided she didn't want to sleep so I only made it about 80% into level 16 but should ding tonight. I have a giant militia longsword (11/39) to use as a placeholder until I can snatch up a 2hander or another 1hand weapon.
kjs86z
01-08-2019, 12:49 PM
Just keep grinding.
Jimjam
01-08-2019, 03:13 PM
As lojik said, sisters in lfay are the only actually lucrative camp at that level, imo. 3pp a pop roughly, vendor a 2 min run away.
Aren't there like three other roughly equivalent camps in the same zone?
Lojik
01-08-2019, 03:23 PM
Aren't there like three other roughly equivalent camps in the same zone?
It's been almost 6 years since I did the camp, but I believe there is a bandit camp in the zone. I can't quite remember why but it's not as good, possibly harder mobs, less loot, harder to break, fewer spawns....something along those lines.
loramin
01-08-2019, 03:48 PM
I'm a little late to the party, but the wiki has an entire "guide" (really just a large collection of ideas/suggestions) for places to earn plat. Check out the link for the Treasure Hunting Guide in my signature.
But really the best advice is:
Just keep grinding.
EverQuest isn't linear when it comes to plat and XP. In other words, it's not like you can earn 1/6th of what you can earn at level 60 when you're level 10: it's actually a lot less than 1/6th (under ideal conditions a level 60 can make 1k+ an hour, but a level 10 can't even make 1/10th of that, ie. 100 plat/hour).
So, on the one hand this is a game, and you should do whatever is the most fun for you, but on the other hand IF you want to be smart/efficient about gaining power as quickly as possible, you should focus on leveling (and only spending the plat you earn while leveling) as much as you possibly can until you hit 60, and only then farm plat.
P.S. There are a very few exceptions to what I just said, for classes with certain key equipment. Charming classes may want to do a little early plat farming to get a Goblin Ghazugi Ring. because it will save them a lot of leveling time. Similarly a 45 shaman might want to farm a few k so they can afford their JBB. But aside from exceptions like that, it's pretty much always faster to level than to farm plat.
Diogene
01-08-2019, 03:56 PM
Well rushing to 60 isnt fun...
Another camp that hasnt been suggested is permafrost entrance. I think thats doable by lvl16. Those goblins can drop HQ ore (small, large, blocks) that sells respectively for 5/15/50p each. Great XP, great cash. Also proximity with druids buffs doing ice giants near by can be a great boost.
MuffinCITY
01-08-2019, 04:13 PM
The guide is awesome, much appreciated, Loramin!
Permafrost is a new idea, I think i'll check it out tonight after I ding. I'm certainly in no rush to level, i'm having a great time trying out different trade skills and leveling up my archery... just casually exploring and discovering, it's a great way for my brain the wind down after work as I have high anxiety. I know it's an old game but there is a lot to discover for a fairly new player.
Gozuk
01-08-2019, 07:39 PM
2 things i did early were slaughter every black bear I saw looking for the HQ bear pelts. They sell for 30p relatively easily. Another thing was farming orcs in South Ro for DF belts to sell in the tunnel. They sell for 5p each and drop like candy... there's something like 7 or 8 different orc camps there and they are almost never taken. Good luck!
Snaggles
01-08-2019, 11:36 PM
You only need about 500p to make a ranger fun. Obviously more is better.
At this point you can track down wisps and sell the light stones. Kill dervs and sell the bronze weapons. Group in unrest (Harmony there is amazing) and level quick while making some cash. Same with Mistmoore in your 30’s. I’d personally do outdoor zones instead of dungeons to help your survival odds.
If intent on gearing before you grind, a solo class can level and make money way faster than even a twinked ranger. Pick your second favorite class and once you have a bit of cash give it to the ranger and pick that back up.
There is no race in this game. Kick your shoes off and enjoy the time-sink.
bub99
01-09-2019, 11:35 AM
Can fearkite mammoths in everfrost. They drop 10pp tusks and are good exp.
Vapos
01-09-2019, 11:53 AM
Get to level 26-27 and go get in the Goblin groups in High Hold Keep. Even if you have to wait an hour or so to get into the group, it's well worth it. You'll get to level 35 rather quickly, and can make 2000-3000p from the goblin ears you acquire over that time. Awesome way for a new player to build some starter funds.
Lordgordon
01-09-2019, 04:01 PM
https://wiki.project1999.com/Silken_Whip_of_Ensnaring
Wupishhhhhhh
MuffinCITY
01-09-2019, 06:41 PM
That seems like a really good offhand for the price, I could even afford that now! Are they often sold in the tunnel? I'm trying to be the Indiana Jones of Norrath
Snaggles
01-09-2019, 06:44 PM
That seems like a really good offhand for the price, I could even afford that now! Are they often sold in the tunnel? I'm trying to be the Indiana Jones of Norrath
They are VERY common and usually about 130p. If set on the DW path it's a great weapon until lvl 50 when it procs snare. After that it's just more situational but still a great ratio.
I'd prob change it out for a Club of the Ice Ocean at 51, also cheap (about 500p), 14/27 with a 149dd proc.
MuffinCITY
01-09-2019, 06:49 PM
After reading what others have to say I think my ultimate goal is to get a Woodsmans Staff ASAP, but just looking for a cheap offhand in the mean time as it will probably take a bit to acquire the 4k I would need for the staff.
Muggens
01-10-2019, 12:03 AM
Just keep grinding.
Agree. 10/22 is a great weapon. No lvl 16 has 1000s of plat except for alts/twinks. Good gaming!
wagorf
01-10-2019, 03:48 AM
I'm a little late to the party, but the wiki has an entire "guide" (really just a large collection of ideas/suggestions) for places to earn plat. Check out the link for the Treasure Hunting Guide in my signature.
But really the best advice is:
EverQuest isn't linear when it comes to plat and XP. In other words, it's not like you can earn 1/6th of what you can earn at level 60 when you're level 10: it's actually a lot less than 1/6th (under ideal conditions a level 60 can make 1k+ an hour, but a level 10 can't even make 1/10th of that, ie. 100 plat/hour).
So, on the one hand this is a game, and you should do whatever is the most fun for you, but on the other hand IF you want to be smart/efficient about gaining power as quickly as possible, you should focus on leveling (and only spending the plat you earn while leveling) as much as you possibly can until you hit 60, and only then farm plat.
P.S. There are a very few exceptions to what I just said, for classes with certain key equipment. Charming classes may want to do a little early plat farming to get a Goblin Ghazugi Ring. because it will save them a lot of leveling time. Similarly a 45 shaman might want to farm a few k so they can afford their JBB. But aside from exceptions like that, it's pretty much always faster to level than to farm plat.
The only useful post from this thread.
Level first then farm plat. EQ is a race of who spends more time. More time spent = better gears/plat. Accelerating the process in accumulating wealth is all about maximizing plat return vs time spent.
You focus on making plat at lvl 20 means you will always be the bottom of income pyramid. The wealth gap between you and avg player will continue to widen day by day.
MuffinCITY
01-10-2019, 03:59 AM
I disagree, I have found many posts useful as I asked about weapons upgrades. Many people had great suggestions, including loramin.
Diogene
01-10-2019, 05:41 AM
Glad you dont listen to that. Thats a pure min max perspective. Grinding mindlessly to 60 is simply awful. And even then, plat is always tough to come by. I’ve been in many fungi camps and i never won a friggin tunic. I’ve been in plate house for hours on end and never won legs or bp. RNG is really part of the game and when it wants to screw you up it does it very well ^^ The challenge also lies where and how u can make good plat at lower level and afford a woodman staff before lvl25.
If you are willing to gamble, there is a very little known quest that can get you 3k in less than 20min. Can be completed by lvl1. Its not for the faint of heart tho, its either you loose or win. I love this quest coz its a complete thrill. Its called Shiny Robe of the Undefoot.
Step 1 : farm 1k to buy Shining Metallics Robe
Step 2 : make a halfling rogue worshipping Brell Serillis, xfer robe to that toon. Port him to toxx, ask druid to escort to paineel, ask for bind by lake.
Step 3 : jump into lake, duck thru upper crack in rocks, zone into Hole
Step 4 : into the Hole, you arent KoS to elementals, golems and flighty fiends, however undeads and rats will smack you, so sneak & hide when u see first rat before city entrance.
Step 5 : find Kejar the Mighty (beware, he pops and depops every 20min so he might not be up when u first arrive)
Step 6: you are KoS to Kejar and Schnozz, you need to sneak & hide behind Kejar. Before turning robe, make sure you hit un-hide otherwise he will kick you in the nuts.
Step 7 : hope for the best.
Many will say its the worst advice ever given to a newb, but Im willing to believe its one of the most profitable way to make decent amount of cash within super short time and effort. It costs 1k, and can make 3k. 3k in less than 30min. If you fail, well you loose 1k. At your lvl it can be quite «*dramatic*»
If you happen to do this quest and fail, just provide me screenshot of «*shiny hunk of metal*» and I’ll pay you back the robe cost.
wagorf
01-10-2019, 06:30 AM
The truth is always ugly. Go ahead and farm your plats at level 20, actually, I should say enjoy farming your golds and silvers, while even the slower plat camps like seb NG yields 100x faster returns.
wagorf
01-10-2019, 06:34 AM
Glad you dont listen to that. Thats a pure min max perspective. Grinding mindlessly to 60 is simply awful. And even then, plat is always tough to come by. I’ve been in many fungi camps and i never won a friggin tunic. I’ve been in plate house for hours on end and never won legs or bp. RNG is really part of the game and when it wants to screw you up it does it very well ^^ The challenge also lies where and how u can make good plat at lower level and afford a woodman staff before lvl25.
If you are willing to gamble, there is a very little known quest that can get you 3k in less than 20min. Can be completed by lvl1. Its not for the faint of heart tho, its either you loose or win. I love this quest coz its a complete thrill. Its called Shiny Robe of the Undefoot.
Step 1 : farm 1k to buy Shining Metallics Robe
Step 2 : make a halfling rogue worshipping Brell Serillis, xfer robe to that toon. Port him to toxx, ask druid to escort to paineel, ask for bind by lake.
Step 3 : jump into lake, duck thru upper crack in rocks, zone into Hole
Step 4 : into the Hole, you arent KoS to elementals, golems and flighty fiends, however undeads and rats will smack you, so sneak & hide when u see first rat before city entrance.
Step 5 : find Kejar the Mighty (beware, he pops and depops every 20min so he might not be up when u first arrive)
Step 6: you are KoS to Kejar and Schnozz, you need to sneak & hide behind Kejar. Before turning robe, make sure you hit un-hide otherwise he will kick you in the nuts.
Step 7 : hope for the best.
Many will say its the worst advice ever given to a newb, but Im willing to believe its one of the most profitable way to make decent amount of cash within super short time and effort. It costs 1k, and can make 3k. 3k in less than 30min. If you fail, well you loose 1k. At your lvl it can be quite «*dramatic*»
If you happen to do this quest and fail, just provide me screenshot of «*shiny hunk of metal*» and I’ll pay you back the robe cost.
Except RNG applies to all camps, regardless of loot value or camp difficulty.
MuffinCITY
01-10-2019, 11:24 AM
The truth is always ugly. Go ahead and farm your plats at level 20, actually, I should say enjoy farming your golds and silvers, while even the slower plat camps like seb NG yields 100x faster returns.
Again, the post wasn't about farming low level plats, I was more confused about how so many people were able to acquire so much plat by now, and everyone cleared it up that it was probably the sisters camp. The next part of my post asked about a weapon for my offhand as I had none, and people delivered.
While I appreciate your post, it's completely pointless.
feniin
01-10-2019, 01:01 PM
I did Najena tradeskills components. Casuale and Arleigh pay nicely for that stuff. Made a few thousand plat in no time.
Randomiseduser
01-11-2019, 07:45 AM
Speaking of Najena.
I made this post a while back, but it largely still applies:
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268116
Diogene
01-12-2019, 06:38 AM
Speaking of Najena.
I made this post a while back, but it largely still applies:
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268116
I stand by this post
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