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Primordial Ooze
12-10-2018, 10:47 AM
Would it break anything to release this zone? I don't remember much about it, except that the SFG port made Qeynos much more accessible and popular. Has there been any talk/interest in releasing this?

jakerees
12-10-2018, 10:49 AM
Would it break anything to release this zone? I don't remember much about it, except that the SFG port made Qeynos much more accessible and popular. Has there been any talk/interest in releasing this?

To answer your questions yes no ok next question please

ScaringChildren
12-10-2018, 10:54 AM
Would it break anything to release this zone? I don't remember much about it, except that the SFG port made Qeynos much more accessible and popular. Has there been any talk/interest in releasing this?

Sadly not classic

I'd support putting it in though

Immok
12-10-2018, 10:58 AM
I'd support putting it in though

stebbins99
12-10-2018, 11:17 AM
Originally Posted by Expediency
P99 really needs surefall glade port. Would open up half that continent. Qeynos/blackburrow/karanas are classic as hell

It’ll be coming In the November 2001 patch. So in about two patches from now.

It might be coming eventually? One can hope

d3r14k
12-10-2018, 11:32 AM
I just learned a few weeks ago we may be getting this with (or sometime after?) the Chardok 2.0 patch.

Circle of Surefall Glade was allegedly released before Luclin:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Circle_of_Surefall_Glade

Evia
12-10-2018, 04:11 PM
dude i'd kill for jaggedpine!! I loved that zone!

plus we would get....



Burnoose of the Halfbreed

MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: FACE
Charges: Unlimited
AC: 4
DEX: +6
Effect: Illusion Half-Elf (Any Slot/Can Equip, Casting Time: 9.0) at Level 34
WT: 1.2 Size: SMALL
Class: BRD ROG
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)

Tethler
12-10-2018, 11:35 PM
dude i'd kill for jaggedpine!! I loved that zone!

plus we would get....



Burnoose of the Halfbreed

MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: FACE
Charges: Unlimited
AC: 4
DEX: +6
Effect: Illusion Half-Elf (Any Slot/Can Equip, Casting Time: 9.0) at Level 34
WT: 1.2 Size: SMALL
Class: BRD ROG
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)

Neat, forgot about that! I remember camping the Griffons there for the ranged slot eye for my druid on live.

Bardp1999
12-11-2018, 01:13 AM
Qeynos area and surrounding zones are THE MOST classic in the game for many many players (myself included). Not having to do "the run" from Qeynos to Freeport would be a real tragedy. I know older players will just port from the Karanas but at least they get that far and new players still make the run.

#KeepQeynosPortFree

Swish2
12-11-2018, 03:23 AM
Qeynos area and surrounding zones are THE MOST classic in the game for many many players (myself included). Not having to do "the run" from Qeynos to Freeport would be a real tragedy. I know older players will just port from the Karanas but at least they get that far and new players still make the run.

#KeepQeynosPortFree

Players used to do the run to the Karanas AND back, it was uphill both ways you know...and nobody complained about it...

Primordial Ooze
12-11-2018, 08:18 AM
Qeynos area and surrounding zones are THE MOST classic in the game for many many players (myself included). Not having to do "the run" from Qeynos to Freeport would be a real tragedy. I know older players will just port from the Karanas but at least they get that far and new players still make the run.

#KeepQeynosPortFree

I feel you, but I don't know that having a port would change that. The broke newbies and the nostalgic will make that run anyway.

And it's not like they have to make it even now - when I started my first toon, I got as far as WK before a shaman there responded to my ooc question about Kith by logging in his druid and porting me for free.

Kalamurv
12-11-2018, 03:06 PM
never understood why more people didn't jump the boat over to tox and snag a port from there, its been forever and a day but if my memory serves me correctly that's closer than the current druid ports (wiz port may be closer, not sure)

Legidias
12-11-2018, 04:13 PM
Cause its a gamble on boat. If the boat is ready, thats faster but if boat is in Qeynos, its faster from Karanas.

Kesselring
12-12-2018, 04:02 AM
Qeynos area and surrounding zones are THE MOST classic in the game for many many players (myself included). Not having to do "the run" from Qeynos to Freeport would be a real tragedy. I know older players will just port from the Karanas but at least they get that far and new players still make the run.

#KeepQeynosPortFree

"The run" was yuge.

Used to think all the continents were just as big too. When my buddy said he was in paineel and I was in erudin I thought id have to take a few days to get to him lol.

Hibbs
12-12-2018, 04:28 AM
Druids get a port to North karana and its a 5 min run to Qeynos unless you forget to ask for a sow. Get your lives together!

loramin
12-12-2018, 01:41 PM
Druids get a port to North karana and its a 5 min run to Qeynos unless you forget to ask for a sow. Get your lives together!

It's even less if the Druid is 58+, as they can Succor you across West Karana.

Bardp1999
12-12-2018, 01:45 PM
The more I think about this the more unclassic P99s incarnation of Qeynos is. More in spirit than letter of the law. In 1999 the Hills and Blackburrow were always crowded to the teeth, there was a lot going on in this area of the world. However with P99 the area is dead, and this is probably because of no SFG port.

I want people to group in Blackburrow as much as possible, so I am now in support of a SFG port.

Cen
12-12-2018, 01:59 PM
The QRG port upgrade patch is pre luclin and is part of the final velious patch. (This doesn't mean it ever makes it to P99, thats up to the developy guy)

This happens before Jaggedpine, which is a luclin patch.

Legidias
12-12-2018, 02:02 PM
Group petition to lower price of EF pots

stebbins99
12-12-2018, 02:13 PM
The more I think about this the more unclassic P99s incarnation of Qeynos is. More in spirit than letter of the law. In 1999 the Hills and Blackburrow were always crowded to the teeth, there was a lot going on in this area of the world. However with P99 the area is dead, and this is probably because of no SFG port.

I want people to group in Blackburrow as much as possible, so I am now in support of a SFG port.

Couldn't agree more! Qeynos Hills was packed back in the day, now you'll basically just see someone camping Hadden and a straggler or two outside of BB

Pringles
12-12-2018, 04:13 PM
Qeynos isn't packed because all the quests there get you to 20 in like five hours. All the smart players roll there if they can. Plus EC being buff city makes it more attractive for a new player. When the SFG port comes in on the last server patch I doubt it will see much more activity or influence besides rendering Everfrost pots worthless. Unless you are racing for like Miragul o.0

Legidias
12-12-2018, 04:46 PM
1-15 in EC with buffs is the fastest and most consistent way to level yourself that early in the game (unless direct plvl or dragon tooth), bar none.

Cen
12-12-2018, 06:20 PM
1-15 in EC with buffs is the fastest and most consistent way to level yourself that early in the game (unless direct plvl or dragon tooth), bar none.

Gnoll teeth are still borked giving whole levels in moments.

Muggens
12-12-2018, 07:07 PM
Leveled most of my guys in Blackburrow (if not using bone chips etc) them teeth are great - also luv Qeynos and Rodcet Nife's interplanar vehicle

Jaleth
12-13-2018, 06:05 PM
Yeah, I essentially leveled from 5ish to 15 saving all my gnoll teeth. I'd turn them all at once and go from 15 to 19 or 20 just from the turn-ins.

Bisonzabi
12-13-2018, 10:03 PM
The reason why "the run" feels so long is due to the outrageously retarded size of the Karanas compared to all the other zones. Moment I make a character in Qeynos I just do some gnoll tooth farming and fuck off to Commonlands/North Ro for any additional teens grinding since that's where the traffic resides. So yes, a port to Surefall would make Western Antonica feel less backwoods if only a little. And no, the size of the Karanas doesn't make the world feel "big" it makes it feel empty. Plus the texture stretching of the terrain textures in those zones (which I think was a 32x32) always looked putrid compared to the Commonlands where the textures looked more put together.

https://i.imgur.com/Rgvn3GE.jpg

Coridan
12-18-2018, 10:03 AM
The game was designed around the bulk of the population being below level 40. That's why this server isn't really a classic experience. When I was playing, up before Luclin launched there were still groups always in Blackburrow, Gorge, Aviak City, West Karana (bandits or scarecrows) with soloers hanging out at Permafrost entrance, or wisp isle or Lake Rathetear. Here there may be 900 people online but 600 or more are 50+, another 100 are in EC tunnel and everyone else is doing Unrest/High keep /Mistmoore

Kaedain
12-18-2018, 10:26 AM
that ramp leading from East Karana to highpass... ooof, that thing is a back breaker

doormat00
12-18-2018, 05:49 PM
Why not allow Wizards to use the lower level Evacuate spells again?

Expediency
12-18-2018, 06:43 PM
It might be coming eventually? One can hope

You have a good memory. https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2793000&postcount=15

These areas are very unpopular with established players. Usually the ones you see there are very new players to p99 or perhaps a few solo classes who are twinked. The port can only help.. certainly people will be less scared to bind in qeynos and try when a druid is 5 min or less away.

Tethler
12-19-2018, 12:40 AM
I'd like to level an alt in BB. Tried when I rolled my barb rogue, but it was dead except for a twinked soloer that refused to group.

I'm tired of EC/Befallen. If more people are over there, it's only a good thing. Maybe Hadden campers will have more competition though, heh.

sox7d
12-22-2018, 03:43 PM
Why not allow Wizards to use the lower level Evacuate spells again?

wizards are overpowered as it is

Dreenk317
12-24-2018, 01:46 AM
Players used to do the run to the Karanas AND back, it was uphill both ways you know...and nobody complained about it...

I remember on my server on live. There were a few bards that made plat running you across WK, saved so many people so much time.