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Hibbs
12-07-2018, 03:53 AM
Hey guys I just have a few questions about the Plane of Mischief gear. I've looked around a bit and have found the basics in making the armor (which is still alittle confusing lol). I was kinda looking for some info on difficulty I guess. Would it be something that could be Solo'd or maybe Duo'd? I'm level 58 and not super geared by any means and have never really spent any time in PoM. If I put in time up there would the armor eventually come?
commongood
12-07-2018, 05:38 AM
Hey guys I just have a few questions about the Plane of Mischief gear. I've looked around a bit and have found the basics in making the armor (which is still alittle confusing lol). I was kinda looking for some info on difficulty I guess. Would it be something that could be Solo'd or maybe Duo'd? I'm level 58 and not super geared by any means and have never really spent any time in PoM. If I put in time up there would the armor eventually come?
Enchanter can solo throne cards at A4 and duo them at theatre (puppets). Thrones are the hardest-to-get cards. They can also be purchased. It’s probably not recommended to solo A4 prior to 60 but I’ve seen a sub-60 killing the halflings at A4 but he said he didn’t dare do TwentyTwo.
It’s not difficult but will take a long time to get all the cards you need
Hibbs
12-07-2018, 06:11 AM
Enchanter can solo throne cards at A4 and duo them at theatre (puppets). Thrones are the hardest-to-get cards. They can also be purchased. It’s probably not recommended to solo A4 prior to 60 but I’ve seen a sub-60 killing the halflings at A4 but he said he didn’t dare do TwentyTwo.
It’s not difficult but will take a long time to get all the cards you need
Cool good info thanks!
I've been living pretty much in HS since I was 51. I could easily stay in HS till 60. I absolutely love that zone lol. I work overnights so it makes it tough to attend a lot of raids in ALS, so I'm looking for some kind of alternative way to get some decent armor. So if I made the move now at 58 and was able to xp and farm some cards and such maybe by the time I hit 60 and can do some of the harder stuff the rest will come pretty easy!
Any extra tips would be greatly appreciated!
commongood
12-07-2018, 06:16 AM
Do it to experience the zone. You can make very decent exp at ratmaze all the way to 60. It’s pretty dull though, and only up to knight cards drop there. If it’s a question of getting gear you might want consider just farming plat in HS or Velks and buying Thurgadin or Skyshrine armor MQs instead. It will likely be cheaper in terms of time spent than farming all the cards needed for just even the robe
OP is in ALS, so that's why they want to acquire gear rather than buy.
commongood
12-07-2018, 06:52 AM
OP is in ALS, so that's why they want to acquire gear rather than buy.
Right, didn't make that connection. Well in that case I'd say yeah, go to PoM. Soloing SS armor is not possible and soloing Thurg armor is likely more burdensome that PoM.
Hibbs
12-07-2018, 07:28 AM
Thanks guys really appreciate the responses.
I read a forum post from awhile back in the bug reports having to do with the card drops and that the drop rate may be off and seeing thrones is a bit rare. Alittle disheartening, but the nature of the grind.
After spending months of going after VT/VD I feel like nothing is really THAT bad lol.
Tecmos Deception
12-07-2018, 07:47 AM
The issue with pom is there is little that is worthwhile from a loot standpoint. If you don't get the a4 halflings anf twenty-two, your solo time is basically wasted. Youll see all the lower cards you need before you get the thrones even if you are only killing mobs that csn drop thrones. Theatre is like 8-10 kills or something, but still, on a 72 min cycle (the whole zone) it's not exactly a busy duo spot either.
Maybe there's other mobs worth killing. It's hard to tell because of how stupidly rare the drops are. When I was soloing in pom I would do a4 halflings and twenty-two, the chest near entrance of the castle, and then backwards through as much of aiw as possible before respawns. But pom used to be a lot less busy :-/
commongood
12-07-2018, 07:48 AM
Thanks guys really appreciate the responses.
I read a forum post from awhile back in the bug reports having to do with the card drops and that the drop rate may be off and seeing thrones is a bit rare. Alittle disheartening, but the nature of the grind.
After spending months of going after VT/VD I feel like nothing is really THAT bad lol.
I personally really enjoy being in PoM. It's a very unique and quirky zone with some excellent money camps and it is close to CS which is like a central connection point in Velious. I have a shaman there and moved my chanter there too a while ago.
The thing, though, is there are relatively few camps dropping thrones and, if you plan to solo mostly, then you'll be going after the A4 camp primarily. And that is a sought after camp so often it is taken. The next issue is that once you have it it is very boring, honestly. Everything in PoM is a 72 min spawn timer. A4 consists of killing 3 mobs. As a chanter you can have this done in maybe 15 mins. That leaves you with nearly an hours worth of down time. This makes it pretty ideal if you need to afk a lot anyway. Like doing stuff around the house or work or whatever. It makes it pretty terrible imo if I actually want to play some focused EverQuest. Then I'd much prefer to do something else :)
Lastly the drop rates are poor. It's all RNG so it's hard to really estimate but I'd say a session of 7-8 hours you'd be happy to get one throne.
Hibbs
12-07-2018, 07:51 AM
The issue with pom is there is little that is worthwhile from a loot standpoint. If you don't get the a4 halflings anf twenty-two, your solo time is basically wasted. Youll see all the lower cards you need before you get the thrones even if you are only killing mobs that csn drop thrones. Theatre is like 8-10 kills or something, but still, on a 72 min cycle (the whole zone) it's not exactly a busy duo spot either.
Maybe there's other mobs worth killing. It's hard to tell because of how stupidly rare the drops are. When I was soloing in pom I would do a4 halflings and twenty-two, the chest near entrance of the castle, and then backwards through as much of aiw as possible before respawns. But pom used to be a lot less busy :-/
Oh yea I didn't even think about the mob aspect and the long respawn timer, duo would def kinda suck.
From what I read it is for sure a lot different than it used to be.
thebutthat
12-07-2018, 08:51 AM
PoM is my favorite zone to solo in. Get a tour, run around....explore....and kill some things. The flowers are nice junk buffs, the cloak of confusion is amazing, and the robe is one of the best robes you can get. At 58 you can kill the A4 halflings solo, but you'll certainly be eating some deaths. The 72 minute timer is a hassle but you can also kill the rest of Alice and wonderland for the lesser cards, and the treasure chest in the middle of the main room that can also drop thrones. Once you are 60, it's always fun to hit the 3 days spawns as well. I usually try to do them but I've seen at least the rabbit soled before.
The only thing about the class specific armor is you have to make the dolls, which isnt cheap and left totally up to chance when turning in. Some people have spent waaaaay to much time and money only to get the dolls they dont want. So tread lightly because your sanity will be tested.
kjs86z
12-07-2018, 11:15 AM
I consider the PoM armor to be the non-raiding grinder's ultimate challenge. The stats (on most pieces) are better, but the amount of time and money to acquire said pieces is staggering. I bound in PoM a while ago with lofty goals to farm A4...it just wasn't for me.
I'd recommend farming plat for the Skyshrine MQs. Keep an eye on /who kael and try to get tags on Statue / AoW for fast and easy dragon faction if you aren't ally. Good enchanters that haven't tanked their velk faction can freely walk around velks, making it easy to get to camps like BM and Frenzy.
If you like grouping, King in seb for the Fungi lottery is always good. Soloing crypt is possible but definitely not for the faint of heart. NG is a very chill spot to solo but you can only expect about 1k / hr there.
I've seen some enchanters solo the OT cliff golem for the torpor lottery as well. Just do whatever you find to be fun that also happens to generate decent platinum....it'll come.
Save up, get yourself a full set of SS gear (don't bother with the gloves, Coldain Skin Gloves are better), and consider yourself "done" with those item slots.
Anything else in the game (outside of ToV / Tormax / Tunare / other high end raid targets) is going to be marginally better at best. Get a +6 neck, orb of infinite void, sickly glowing orb, etc. Do the Helssen's Prismatic Trinket quest solo (its fun), finish your epic, etc.
Now that I think of it, the two PoM items you should be looking to acquire is the Belt of Inconsistency (slight upgrade from spider fur belt) and the Cloak of Confusion (non-end-game-raider BiS, possibly BiS anyway). These you can simply buy the cards for and acquire w/o having to deal with getting those stupid dolls.
Phew, I've been more long winded than I think I needed to be. Here's the TLDR I-Wanna-Farm-A-Ton-Of-Plat-And-Get-Good-Gear List:
Arms: SS
Back: PoM Cloak of Confusion
Chest: SS
Ear 1: Helssen's
Ear 2: Earring of Essence
Face: Maple Leaf Mask
Feet: SS
Ring 1: Djarns
Ring 2: dunno w/e
Hands: Coldain Skin Gloves
Head: SS
Legs: SS
Neck: +6
Shoulders: Neriad Shawl (upgrade to Wind Walker's Mantle from Sky if you can ever raid up there and you're way over CHA cap)
Waist: PoM Belt of Inconsistency
Wrist 1 / 2: SS
Epic, Orb of Infinite Void, Sickly Glowing Orb
That's a TON of plat / items to farm and quest for. Should keep you busy for at least 500 hours unless you're a god-tier farmer.
edit: well, shit....just noticed ALS tag. Oh well, I'll leave this up in case another up-and-coming enchanter is looking for a gear list.
Tecmos Deception
12-07-2018, 04:34 PM
Pom IS a cool place to explore and learn. It's just that the only camp "worth it" from a loot perspective is 3 mobs on a 72-min timer that is very heavily sought after.
It's really a shame the drop ratio on crowns isn't a bit better so that it made the garden and the chessboard and other random mobs that (I think) can drop crowns worth doing instead of just logging off if aiw4 is taken.
Hibbs
12-08-2018, 01:02 AM
edit: well, shit....just noticed ALS tag. Oh well, I'll leave this up in case another up-and-coming enchanter is looking for a gear list.
Laughed pretty good at that.
Thanks for the response Toxigen. I enjoy reading your posts here.
Its tough to make a lot of raids but once and awhile I do. SS and most of that list is def obtainable from ALS/Aegis raids. Will just take time!
Ill def prob beat my head against the card wall for awhile and see what happens. The PoM robe is pretty snazzy with stats and fashionquest :D
Thanks again!
enjchanter
12-08-2018, 01:26 AM
nothing in pom is worth it unless you can afford to just buy everything you need from there.
Pringles
12-08-2018, 03:54 AM
PoM robe besides the Vulak robe is the best for any ench who is not a HIE. The extra cha will allow you to more than make up for that 30 hp from SS by freeing up more room for pure hp items. Cloak is a given, it is the BiS. Belt is eh if you are that committed to the game then might as well wait your turn in the pixel parade and focus on clickies at that point. Probably out of most scopes but the clicky scale of wolf items while limited can make for some impressive run down on red.
tl;dr
dont roll HIE
commongood
12-10-2018, 08:15 AM
I honestly think we're talking fashion quest mainly unless you are really in to min/max'ing when considering the five velious armor robes for the ENC. The jump from either of them up to Vulak's robe is pretty big but the difference between them is negligible. We are talking about +/- 8charisma, 5-7 stamina and 10-30 hp depending on which one you go for with none of them offering pure upside.
Ranking them for fasion quest I personally think Kael Drakkal (Dazzler's Robe) wins but that is obviously just my opinion.
Hibbs
12-12-2018, 01:02 AM
I honestly think we're talking fashion quest mainly unless you are really in to min/max'ing when considering the five velious armor robes for the ENC. The jump from either of them up to Vulak's robe is pretty big but the difference between them is negligible. We are talking about +/- 8charisma, 5-7 stamina and 10-30 hp depending on which one you go for with none of them offering pure upside.
Ranking them for fasion quest I personally think Kael Drakkal (Dazzler's Robe) wins but that is obviously just my opinion.
True but also talking most obtainable with not be able to raid much and also not being able to MQ Armor.
thebutthat
12-12-2018, 03:11 AM
True but also talking most obtainable with not be able to raid much and also not being able to MQ Armor.
Anything not requiring a dazzler doll is obtainable without using the regular market in a reasonable time. But a mischievous dazzler doll...i'd have to think you'll be investing a year+ just getting the doll, unless you have a static group to farm puppets and even then...uhf. I've heard of people making 10-20 dolls and getting the same wizard, mage, druid dolls over and over.
commongood
12-12-2018, 07:46 AM
True but also talking most obtainable with not be able to raid much and also not being able to MQ Armor.
Yeah for sure, was more of a general comment. PoM is definitely 100% soloable. I've solo'd Thurg armor at kael 4-way on my necro many a time but not sure how much of a pita it is for an ENC due to giants being undercons. But definitely doable. In both instances the drop rates are very low.
Hibbs
12-13-2018, 12:39 AM
Yeah for sure, was more of a general comment. PoM is definitely 100% soloable. I've solo'd Thurg armor at kael 4-way on my necro many a time but not sure how much of a pita it is for an ENC due to giants being undercons. But definitely doable. In both instances the drop rates are very low.
I suppose that is true too! Didn't think about that.
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