Ranger DPS DW vs 2handed

[damstraight4]

I'm a 39 ranger. I've seen on the forum "Buy Woodman's until epic GG". I was wondering if there are cases where dual-wield might be better.

Do I get more procs with DW for Call of Sky? Is Call of Sky dex based?

I know if I spend a ton of money then DW might be better. For DW I have a 12/22 velium 1hs, and the velium brood axe. I'd be willing to spend a couple grand to get a new 1hs if it meant better dps.

What do you all think?

[Jimjam]

It doesn't make a world of difference tbh.

Using 1handers also makes sure you keep skills relevant for when you get epics.

I used a wurmslayer and lupine dagger until I got my swiftwind, circa 46. Earlier on I was using the silver swiftblade.

Once I had swiftwind I mixed up the wolf dagger and wurmslayer in primary as sitation dictated. Eventually I retired lupine dagger at 56. Wurmslayer was then used until 59. 59-60 I used primarily Earthcaller.

[ScaringChildren]

Well if you're grouping, you may not want to use Call of Sky because it generates a lot of aggro.

Also, I think the spell-based procs don't use DEX (but I could be wrong).

I've also heard that the Woodsman Staff is the best until epics, but who knows? Maybe that's a Kunark-era strat?

I tend to like dual wielding also so my ranger just has a Wurmslayer and something else and no one in my group cares because I'm in wolf form anyway.

If you're soloing though, then I don't know.

[Xaeophi]

Woodsman is best bang for your buck and peaks 30-low 40s :)

[Snaggles]

Has anyone with a 60 ranger ever parsed a Woodsman Staff and a 36% haste item vs epics?

Minus the intrinsic benefits of epics over a stat-less stick, I'm curious how they compare in raw dps in grind group or raid situations.

[Cecily]

Hard to min max ranger dps because no matter how high you get it, you’re just supplemental dps. I would suggest Baton of Flames + Kflame with 41% haste. That’s the highest potential damage build for a ranger, depending on procs and should perform pretty damn well even on things that resist the procs.

[aaezil]

Download gamparse and find out for yourself which does better (the answer is heavily dependent on your char level) :)

[Jimjam]

Is there a decent primary 1 handed hammer?

As a ranger of Karana I like the Norse storm God feel.

[Cecily]

Has anyone with a 60 ranger ever parsed a Woodsman Staff and a 36% haste item vs epics?

Minus the intrinsic benefits of epics over a stat-less stick, I'm curious how they compare in raw dps in grind group or raid situations.

I have, yes. I made a spread sheet years ago that compared ranger loadouts at various haste percentages. I think I specifically wanted to know how well a woodsman performed vs faydark parrying dagger + swiftwind. You should get that combo btw. Has a PB AE which sucks but it’s a good weapon for anything that you don’t need CC for. Best Kunark setup.

It’s still around but I dunno what the link is anymore.

[Snaggles]

I have, yes. I made a spread sheet years ago that compared ranger loadouts at various haste percentages. I think I specifically wanted to know how well a woodsman performed vs faydark parrying dagger + swiftwind. You should get that combo btw. Has a PB AE which sucks but it’s a good weapon for anything that you don’t need CC for. Best Kunark setup.

It’s still around but I dunno what the link is anymore.

Ah thanks Cecily :)

[Bardp1999]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Meljeldin,_Bane_of_Giants

Went for 17 DKP recently to Aikons, I believe this is the best Ranger 2hander

[Cecily]

Ah thanks Cecily :)

If I remember correctly, woodsman was less good than epics but not by that... much. Woodsman was surprisingly good even at 60. The issue is that 14 24 is a straight up bad ratio. X + Swiftwind is better than Woodsman, generally.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zpdYXrsDbofuQnDbkEKDDNgLjzQEOAUBMdQoqS-8fhE/htmlview#

I haven’t looked at this for years and dont take those calculations as gospel. It should serve as a model that’ll spit out a higher number = better though.

[Imago]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Meljeldin,_Bane_of_Giants

Went for 17 DKP recently to Aikons, I believe this is the best Ranger 2hander

Safe, proc-less option, not fun against high AC targets but a great choice against lower AC choices.

[Cecily]

Yeah, I really wanted that sword while I was playing. Still think Baton / Kflame would be ridiculously fun. I’m gonna do the KT head sword for my ranger if I ever come back.

[Xaeophi]

Interesting. Ive parsed the Meljeldin bane of giants and it is no where near the dps as dual wielding.

[Xaeophi]

It doesnt hit for as much as i thought it would.
I use a primal 2h and i can hardly tell the dmg difference if i switch them.

[Xaeophi]

ill try it out again some time.