Monk skill - Mend

[girth]

It should stop failing once it reaches 100 skill or higher, this is not the case, in fact, it is still extremely unreliable >=100 skill. This is a big deal for monks.

[Zithax]

It should stop failing once it reaches 100 skill or higher, this is not the case, in fact, it is still extremely unreliable >=100 skill. This is a big deal for monks.

Yeah I thought I mentioned this to a couple of devs when I still played Zithax... I guess not. In any case, needs to be fixed!

[Villert]

I agree. Post 100 skill mend should never fail. As of right now, I'd say success rate is probably less than 1/2 over 100.

[Villert]

Not to sound impatient, but is there anyway we can get some kind of confirmation that this is being worked on? It's way too important of a skill for monks to be ignored.

[girth]

Anything? This is class breaking. I had 6 failed Mends in a row last night, my skill is over 110.

[lapis_lazuli]

I quit playing my monk because of this, too. It makes effective soloing near impossible.

[Villert]

I quit playing my monk because of this, too. It makes effective soloing near impossible.

Yes it does. Combined with the fact that dodge/block doesn't work either, it makes being a monk extremely rough :-p

[girth]

Thats a whole nother point villert. I question whether dodge and blocks do work, as I have YET to see one in my combat log.

And yes, I feel like rerolling as well, monks are complete ass right now.

Monks used to could solo to 50, albeit very slowly. As it is now, I have trouble soloing a single blue mob. I can do it maybe 15-20% of the time, only if I get lucky and they miss a lot.

[Danth]

Mend is a characteristic monk skill used throughout their lives. It needs to work as advertised.

As a Paladin, I do dodge on occasion, so the skill itself at least works--if there's a problem with monks not dodging, perhaps that can narrow down the cause.

Danth.

[lapis_lazuli]

My rogue is dodging successfully, too.

[Villert]

Thats a whole nother point villert. I question whether dodge and blocks do work, as I have YET to see one in my combat log.

And yes, I feel like rerolling as well, monks are complete ass right now.

Monks used to could solo to 50, albeit very slowly. As it is now, I have trouble soloing a single blue mob. I can do it maybe 15-20% of the time, only if I get lucky and they miss a lot.

We should probably make another thread - but I feel the same way. I have trouble soloing a blue, and actually, embarrassingly enough - light blues at times. I got hit 17 straight times against a light blue last night, and probably 7 or 8 hits were for the mobs max damage. Ahh, we poor broken monks :-(

[girth]

IDK Danth, my block and dodge level, but I have yet to see a SINGLE message for either of them, and I'm not filtering any combat messages.

I'm about to just perma ignore my weight limit, since it doesnt matter AT ALL - I cannot solo anyways

[Danth]

Don;t get me wrong Girth, I'm not saying that Dodge works for monks, only that it works for Paladins. That's important because it can hopefully narrow down a culprit.

Danth

[girth]

I've talked to other monks that say they see one or the other every 2-3 fights. Maybe its just that it needs to scale better when it levels up. Should see multiple dodge or blocks messages each fight, unless Riposte is magically gonna add like 30% avoidance.

[Khaleel]

Link to a 2000 archived page from monkly business regarding mend corroborating the reports above: http://web.archive.org/web/20001210041600/www.monkly-business.com/skills/mend.html

The guy who wrote the post didn't write things in terms of skill level but rather character level, but since you get (level +1) * 5 in skill, and he says that you quit getting both failures and critical failures at around 19-20 (19 cap being 100, something you might not hit during your time in 19 if you level fast)...

[girth]

Hate to bump but seriously, I'm not playing and just waiting until they fix either melee incoming damage or Mend. Can we at least get some form of: this cannot be fixed or this is being looked at?

This is extremely class breaking for monks.

[Indio]

I don't use mend in combat anymore as it can lead to bad bad things. Granted I'm only 12, but It really fails to much or I get NO message at all from it.

Indio

[Villert]

Not much point in using it even when you're higher. Certainly can't depend on it, even at 25+.

[girth]

Bump - we haven't had a single comment from a GM about this class breaking issue on either forum, and I did have this issue posted on the old forums - are there any plans to make Mend stop failing once Mastered?

[vaire100]

I've been following this server and have yet to roll a character on it, but I played a monk on PEQ server and there were severe problems with the monk skills as well. I think they've been fixed. Check out the Monk forum:

http://www.projecteq.net/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=42

and my old thread there

http://www.projecteq.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4914

[Kantan]

http://classicbetatest.guildlaunch.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2306073&gid=62867

I posted this back in March. They fixed flying kick, I am sure this is fixable. Flying kick did over 300 damage initially. Targin the Rock owned.

[Kantan]

http://classicbetatest.guildlaunch.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2412328&highlight=monk&gid=62867

Another.

[Zarniwooop]

Monk still broken.

It's much less than 1/2 at 100 skill level on mend.

MAYBE 1/3. I will start to give track. Monks cannot solo a blue mob without luck. Period. Gear is irrelevent. Simply cannot be done. I know that's probably the melee bug, but it's miserable.

Found another major monk bug today so posting after this comment.

[Oryn]

are monks still broken? im going to be installing in a few days and my class of choice is monk, should i wait to roll one?

[girth]

I am waiting until Kunark to make an iksar. Monks are still pretty horrible to play at the moment so I have quit playing mine. Rolled a Druid.

[NotInventedHere]

I haven't done any parses, but at level 28 mend is still about 50/50, and avoidance skills don't seem to be working right. FD works, and Instill Doubt actually seems to work better than I remember it(though with mob run speed it is mainly only useful for a small bandage break). The bottom line is that if you want to play a monk, play one. If you want to min/max, though, you'd probably have more fun as a necro or mage.

[girth]

They seriously need to fix Mend not working 100% and monk avoidance.

[nilbog]

fixed?

[Plutomoon]

My skill at mend is now at 53...Or very close to and the ratio that it fails, damages me, and a success seems to be close to original. I do remember at a certain point mend and FD would never fail.

PS. everyone wanted answers and I think they fixed this via nilbogs post, if its fixed you should let him know =p

[nilbog]

monk mend gtg? fixed?

[dannym3141]

I'd just like to add here that soloing blues and even light blues as a monk was always hit and miss in classic. Mend aside, it was always tough even if you got a mend off. Light blues were never trivial and could easily take off 15% of your health (if they had a miss streak) and up to 60+% of your health if they had a hit streak.

I always remember that about monks most prominently. Sometimes you'd hit every shot and kick ass, sometimes you'd miss every shot. And sometimes the mob would hit every shot, and sometimes it'd miss every shot.

It was always very dodgy like that, and i never remember being able to "reliably solo" as a monk other than literally waiting 6 minutes every fight so i had mend and full health. My experiences soloing as a monk on this server (such as raster) are extremely similar to my experiences on live classic back in the day.

And another thing, "blue" is very generic. Some blues rip me to shreds even at 50 with good gear, and some blues are pussy cats.

[PearlJammzz]

My rogue has dodged...doesn't do it often, but it has happened.

[bjm9282]

I'm glad I found this thread, but I'm surprised no one has responded to Nilbog yet about mend. I was playing my newly created monk last night and realized that when I clicked mend absolutely nothing happened. No message. No hp recovery/decrease. I hope this gets fixed soon.

[Deathrydar]

Well, Nilbog asked a couple times in March if it was fixed, and no one really responded.

[bjm9282]

That's why I posted, because it's still broken and I'm not sure why no one else responded.

[taamas]

I'm glad I found this thread, but I'm surprised no one has responded to Nilbog yet about mend. I was playing my newly created monk last night and realized that when I clicked mend absolutely nothing happened. No message. No hp recovery/decrease. I hope this gets fixed soon.

Not quite sure what problem you're having. Mend works just fine for me. Until my mid-teens, it was a backbreaker when I needed it the most though; it almost always either failed or hurt me in the process, but I digress. :) Pretty reliable now though!

[DevGrousis]

was this ever fixed??

[Enderenter]

was this ever fixed??

Seems to be. I don't recall it failing for me over 100 skill.

[Desert]

At 100 skill it should never critically fail, as in, harm you. It should still fail past 100 skill. Even at max there was a very slim chance for it to not work, but it rarely happened.