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Whoop
10-25-2018, 01:35 AM
Hi,

If I use Chrome RDP from work comp to home comp I’m guessing the IT departement can see the connection but can they see whats on it? I other words: can i tunnelquest without IT dep hackzor me?

Cecily
10-25-2018, 06:32 AM
Lazy idiots with fake jobs like you will be the reason the empire falls. Playing games at work. Poor people have to work for a living - mainly to make some other lazy fuck rich. We all bought into a stupid system.

America
10-25-2018, 08:29 AM
Hi,

If I use Chrome RDP from work comp to home comp I’m guessing the IT departement can see the connection but can they see whats on it? I other words: can i tunnelquest without IT dep hackzor me?

they will see any website you visit or connection to p99 in the IP logs. I worked IT before and I loved catching people like you who didn't know better ^^; it made me feel like a bad person, but I loved it.

clevergirl
10-25-2018, 09:53 AM
You all basically should turn yourselves into sex maniquens for republicans to use as plushies and kill yourselves if you think like this.

ScaringChildren
10-25-2018, 09:55 AM
You all basically should turn yourselves into sex maniquens for republicans to use as plushies and kill yourselves if you think like this.

https://i.imgur.com/FQ0tqev.jpg

America
10-25-2018, 11:07 AM
hey big weirdo j, (America) was that the time you got the axe for perusing ero Guro shota hentai @ work on a regular basis?

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it seems like you might actually believe this story you imagined. Not 1st time you've said it while seeming mad. It's weird. you're creepy

sorry you're disliked by J

Mead
10-25-2018, 12:15 PM
sounds like you need to make friends with the IT department

branamil
10-25-2018, 12:20 PM
they will see any website you visit or connection to p99 in the IP logs. I worked IT before and I loved catching people like you who didn't know better ^^; it made me feel like a bad person, but I loved it.

No they won't dumbass. The connection will be between his work PC and his home PC. His home PC connects to p99.

this user was banned
10-25-2018, 01:03 PM
Hi,

If I use Chrome RDP from work comp to home comp I’m guessing the IT departement can see the connection but can they see whats on it? I other words: can i tunnelquest without IT dep hackzor me?

If your company uses a VPN and your home computer has to connect to the VPN for you to RDP to it, then they can monitor network traffic off your home PC. I think this can be avoided if you use your home computer's gateway instead of your work's when you setup your VPN connection.

Although I think Chrome RDP uses HTTPS which means you probably don't need a VPN to connect to home. If you're not on a VPN at home, at best they could only monitor what is going through the HTTP traffic and unless they have a way to mirror your RDP session in Chrome, I don't think there's much they can see other than what Chrome sends which I imagine is probably over websockets.

America
10-25-2018, 01:04 PM
No they won't dumbass. The connection will be between his work PC and his home PC. His home PC connects to p99.
that's true if his IT dept doesn't do deep packet analysis. which most of us real IT professionals learned in grammar school. loser
awWwWwWW, the perpetually unemployable mentally ill tranny dick posting poverty striken biological male who thinks its a female is upset

(lol):eek:

America
10-25-2018, 01:05 PM
If your company uses a VPN and your home computer has to connect to the VPN for you to RDP to it, then they can monitor network traffic off your home PC. I think this can be avoided if you use your home computer's gateway instead of your work's when you setup your VPN connection.

Although I think Chrome RDP uses HTTPS which means you probably don't need a VPN to connect to home. If you're not on a VPN at home, at best they could only monitor what is going through the HTTP traffic and unless they have a way to mirror your RDP session in Chrome, I don't think there's much they can see other than what Chrome sends which I imagine is probably over websockets.

deep packet analysis will reveal everything in the chrome rdp session.

stop trolling this guy into getting fired. that's over the line.

America
10-25-2018, 01:24 PM
This isn't RnF; how do you think that's an acceptable post?

A lot of the people who bonded with my past-life male bully alpha-troll persona became unreasonably hostile when I started transition. Something about submitting to a "male" then learning it was just a girl's put-on character really bugs insecure type dudes.

I must not be a real woman if I was capable of dominating them, etc...it's a misogynist typology really. I've seen it manifest irl and it made me concerned for my safety. Creep behavior, but I try not to blame. There really is a lot of toxicity embedded in most boys' masculine programming. Most NPCs will never overcome; all we can do is raise the next generation of Lulzes with learned lessons in mind.

Lulz is susceptible to addiction to short-loop dopa cycles. It's kindest to him to just freeze him out when he starts mashing that lever I think. And I don't particularly need moral support to endure his meltdowns. but ty ^^

More importantly, op, DON'T play eq at work over RDP. Any good IT guy's heuristic will see data transmission resembling videogame patterns and do a deep-packet analysis that will bust you cold.

branamil
10-25-2018, 01:32 PM
that's true if his IT dept doesn't do deep packet analysis. which most of us real IT professionals learned in grammar school. loser
:eek:

You originally said his IT department would find him on "ip logs". Now they have to do deep packet analysis? Hmm. It's almost as if you don't know what you are taking about.

(Hint: smart people were never on "help desk" like you were. They went straight to being engineers)

America
10-25-2018, 01:38 PM
You originally said his IT department would find him on "ip logs". Now they have to do deep packet analysis? Hmm. It's almost as if you don't know what you are taking about.

(Hint: smart people were never on "help desk" like you were. They went straight to being engineers)

The IP logs show transmission patterns resembling videogame netcode, then they do a deep packet analysis. I didn't explain the whole thing because OP obviously a noob.

And I'm sorry I wasn't born as priveleged as you. I had to work hard to become the computer engineer I am today, my dream since childhood. And I did it all while in the wrong sex's body. I won't see my long ascent to this pinnacle station as a point of shame no matter how discharitably you characterize it.

branamil
10-25-2018, 01:59 PM
Ip logs do not show transmission patterns. I sincerely hope your employer doesn't read this or you'd be fired for being incompetent at your "computer engineer" job (which sounds fake). Can you just stop pretending you know what you're talking about?

America
10-25-2018, 02:02 PM
Ip logs do not show transmission patterns.

rofl. your big expensive school didn't teach you how to read IP logs? there's no substitute for grit. anyway i "sincerely hope" your professors dont read this and commit suicide. loser

clevergirl
10-25-2018, 03:13 PM
A lot of the people who bonded with my past-life male bully alpha-troll persona became unreasonably hostile when I started transition. Something about submitting to a "male" then learning it was just a girl's put-on character really bugs insecure type dudes.

I must not be a real woman if I was capable of dominating them, etc...it's a misogynist typology really. I've seen it manifest irl and it made me concerned for my safety. Creep behavior, but I try not to blame. There really is a lot of toxicity embedded in most boys' masculine programming. Most NPCs will never overcome; all we can do is raise the next generation of Lulzes with learned lessons in mind.

Lulz is susceptible to addiction to short-loop dopa cycles. It's kindest to him to just freeze him out when he starts mashing that lever I think. And I don't particularly need moral support to endure his meltdowns. but ty ^^

More importantly, op, DON'T play eq at work over RDP. Any good IT guy's heuristic will see data transmission resembling videogame patterns and do a deep-packet analysis that will bust you cold.

Good stronkgt post. For a femme.

this user was banned
10-25-2018, 03:45 PM
The IP logs show transmission patterns resembling videogame netcode, then they do a deep packet analysis. I didn't explain the whole thing because OP obviously a noob.

And I'm sorry I wasn't born as priveleged as you. I had to work hard to become the computer engineer I am today, my dream since childhood. And I did it all while in the wrong sex's body. I won't see my long ascent to this pinnacle station as a point of shame no matter how discharitably you characterize it.

But the packets are not routed through the RDP session are they? Only the RDP data is which is just display and input and file transfers between computer.

How can they even trace packets on a computer that isn't even in their own network? If they are connecting to the PC via WAN then how can anything be traced? I don't think they can trace anything unless his home PC is on the company's VPN, using their gateway or there is a security hole in Chrome RDP.

America
10-25-2018, 04:12 PM
Chrome RDP doesn't work like other incantations of RDP. It runs virtual applications, cloned from RAM of the viewed PC, locally on the viewer machine and superimposes them over cropped jpgs or png or whatever sent from the viewed PC. That way the images transferred can be much smaller, and bandwidth constraints are much less an issue. It's a wild implementation. Side effects, of course, Google gets to read the state of the applications and track user behavior thoroughly for advertising. And the traffic can be read by IP log and deep package inspection as though the remote machine were local. Check out the docs, chrome rdp is wackadoodle af.

branamil
10-25-2018, 04:25 PM
For anyone about to fall for this fraud, the above rant is a technobabble rant of helpdesk peon who is daydreaming about how networks actually work. "Cloned RAM" is the 3rd dumbest thing I heard today, right behind "it's IP logs", no wait it's "deep packet inspection"!

America
10-25-2018, 04:30 PM
I haven't worked helpdesk for 3 years loser. I'm a deployment engineering specialist, level III. And I have forgot more about Internet Protocol than your $50,000 debt ever learned you. Your pride will cost this man his job if he listens to you.

Go read the documentation and copy paste how I'm wrong. You won't. Because you can't.

this user was banned
10-25-2018, 04:42 PM
Chrome RDP doesn't work like other incantations of RDP. It runs virtual applications, cloned from RAM of the viewed PC, locally on the viewer machine and superimposes them over cropped jpgs or png or whatever sent from the viewed PC. That way the images transferred can be much smaller, and bandwidth constraints are much less an issue. It's a wild implementation. Side effects, of course, Google gets to read the state of the applications and track user behavior thoroughly for advertising. And the traffic can be read by IP log and deep package inspection as though the remote machine were local. Check out the docs, chrome rdp is wackadoodle af.

Ok, but isn't the only socket connection to EQ being run on the home PC's hardware? You can't trace that from RDP if the physical machine has no connection to his work PC other than through the HTTPs based RDP connection.

Or does Chrome use your local PC's hardware for networking instead of the home PC?

If you started EQ on the home PC then connected to it and picked it up at work, the process and socket are only running on the home PC, otherwise EQ will just not work because it would need to open a new connection on new hardware. Maybe there's something I'm missing?

branamil
10-25-2018, 04:43 PM
How about you copy and paste the part from the documentation where it "clones ram"?

misterbonkers
10-25-2018, 04:45 PM
Ok, but isn't the only socket connection to EQ being run on the home PC's hardware? You can't trace that from RDP if the physical machine has no connection to his work PC other than through the HTTPs based RDP connection.

Or does Chrome use your local PC's hardware for networking instead of the home PC?

If you started EQ on the home PC then connected to it and picked it up at work, the process and socket are only running on the home PC, otherwise EQ will just not work because it would need to open a new connection on new hardware. Maybe there's something I'm missing?

p99 client will stop working when rdp starts so you'd have to start it after getting in

America
10-25-2018, 04:47 PM
How about you copy and paste the part from the documentation where it "clones ram"?
You're the one giving reckless advice. Maybe the onus is on you.
Ok, but isn't the only socket connection to EQ being run on the home PC's hardware? You can't trace that from RDP if the physical machine has no connection to his work PC other than through the HTTPs based RDP connection.

Or does Chrome use your local PC's hardware for networking instead of the home PC?

If you started EQ on the home PC then connected to it and picked it up at work, the process and socket are only running on the home PC, otherwise EQ will just not work because it would need to open a new connection on new hardware. Maybe there's something I'm missing?
The EQ instance is cloned from host (or whatever, the viewed machine I mean) to client (viewer) and run locally. Then a bitwise two-way synchronization is done as the application state changes.

It's bizarre. That's why it takes so long to "buffer", though, and why achievable framerate is so high. Check the docs out, it's wild.

Wonkie
10-25-2018, 04:47 PM
this the extra chrome zone thread

this user was banned
10-25-2018, 04:52 PM
The EQ instance is cloned from host (or whatever, the viewed machine I mean) to client (viewer) and run locally. Then a bitwise two-way synchronization is done as the application state changes.

It's bizarre. That's why it takes so long to "buffer", though, and why achievable framerate is so high. Check the docs out, it's wild.

Ok, but the ACTUAL TCP connection to EQ is only run through the hardware on the home PC; I'm not sure that network traffic between the home PC and the EQ servers would ever be visible through Chrome RDP.

The network traffic for EQ wouldn't even route through his work PC would it? His work would only be able to monitor his work PC's traffic and they would only see the HTTPS traffic from Chrome RDP.

America
10-25-2018, 04:56 PM
Ok, but the ACTUAL TCP connection to EQ is only run through the hardware on the home PC; I'm not sure that network traffic between the home PC and the EQ servers would ever be visible through Chrome RDP.

The network traffic for EQ wouldn't even route through his work PC would it? His work would only be able to monitor his work PC's traffic and they would only see the HTTPS traffic from Chrome RDP.

ohhhh that's a good question. I had to look into the doc for this.

Turns out though that it's not safe. While the bitwise sync is active, Chrome RDP protocol designates a "primary incarnation" window based upon the most recent user interaction timestamp and conducts all tcpip from that machine. Weird. p99 might just drop the connection in that case. Check it out:

https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/1649523?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en&top=BitwiseSynchronization

this user was banned
10-25-2018, 05:13 PM
ohhhh that's a good question. I had to look into the doc for this.

Turns out though that it's not safe. While the bitwise sync is active, Chrome RDP protocol designates a "primary incarnation" window based upon the most recent user interaction timestamp and conducts all tcpip from that machine. Weird. p99 might just drop the connection in that case. Check it out:

https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/1649523?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en&top=BitwiseSynchronization

There's nothing in that link about that besides how to set up Chrome RDP for me.

If his work PC is running the tcpip traffic to P99 then he's clearly at risk, but there's a good chance, if his company is smart, they've got all ports on lockdown except maybe HTTP/HTTPS

If work isn't blocking the windows RDP port, they could just use that instead and I believe they would be safe.

America
10-25-2018, 05:15 PM
There's nothing in that link about that besides how to set up Chrome RDP for me.

hmm, are you logged in to a Google developer account? i think they cost 5 bucks or something. i bought one for extension publishing.

this user was banned
10-25-2018, 05:20 PM
hmm, are you logged in to a Google developer account? i think they cost 5 bucks or something. i bought one for extension publishing.

Nope, maybe that's why.

branamil
10-25-2018, 06:22 PM
You're the one giving reckless advice. Maybe the onus is on you.



There is nothing out there that says "google chrome doesn't CLONE RAM" because that's a nonsense statement you made up because you think it sounded smart.

If it actually does that, it should be super easy for you to find out where and show us? If you're not a fraud that is?

America
10-25-2018, 06:27 PM
There is nothing out there that says "google chrome doesn't CLONE RAM" because that's a nonsense statement you made up because you think it sounded smart.

If it actually does that, it should be super easy for you to find out where and show us? If you're not a fraud that is?

I posted the link. but i think you need a Google dev acct to see the advanced documentation. you do have one of those, right? you're not just talking out of your ass with no knoqledge of Chrome RDP's workings are you?

branamil
10-25-2018, 06:41 PM
There is nothing in that page about cloning ram, like you claimed. I feel sorry for how many lies you must tell your coworkers.

America
10-25-2018, 06:52 PM
Not surprised you think it's possible to make it to the bleeding edge of the deployment engineering world on lies.

I wouldn't last 2 days as a Deployment Engineering Specialist III (that's a team lead position, if u didnt know) if I lied to my colleagues. They are wicked smart.

Besides that, they are my comrades and I would never betray them with falsehoods. Sounds like you are stuck in the mud dealing with compulsive liars and weirdoes in your world. Sad for you.

OP, do NOT play eq over RDP at work.

branamil
10-25-2018, 07:58 PM
Reminder: you claimed chrome "CLONED RAM" (lol). Still waiting for you to show us that's true. Or you could keep up deflecting.

America
10-25-2018, 08:00 PM
I linked the documentation bro. Did you log in to a Google developer account yet and click it, or did you not? If you cooperate maybe we can work this thing out

branamil
10-25-2018, 08:06 PM
Yes. Can you tell me the title of the section that documents the "cloning ram" technology? So I can read the same section you're reading ?

America
10-25-2018, 08:07 PM
Hang on I'm in traffic right now

Ahldagor
10-25-2018, 10:09 PM
This thread seems a little down.

Muggens
10-26-2018, 08:07 AM
Lazy idiots with fake jobs like you will be the reason the empire falls. Playing games at work. Poor people have to work for a living - mainly to make some other lazy fuck rich. We all bought into a stupid system.

Only response needed

maskedmelon
10-26-2018, 08:17 AM
https://i.imgur.com/xMasCE4.jpg

lol, this pic makes me laugh everytime.

Whoop
10-26-2018, 12:03 PM
My IP at home does not change when using chrome RDP. I can connect and dissconnect without EQ crashing. And there is no VPN between home work comp. We use RDP session all the time so no one would react to that, but is it possible to monitor the actuall traffic on the RDP/teamviewer?

And relax people, I just want to check tunnel om my breaks. No biggie if someone finns out, but if I can minimize the risk I will.

tristantio
10-28-2018, 09:07 PM
ahungry.com/eqauctions-live

Darksinga
11-01-2018, 11:29 AM
Are you able to bring in your own laptop? If so, that's the safest way and near untrackable (unless some one sees you physically), if you just connect to your phone's hotspot.

If you are using a computer on the domain, they will be able to see your connection to RDP, and it actually might red flag due to how "chatty" it will appear.

If you are using a computer that connects to the network (your work internet,) I'd be shocked if your companies firewall didn't block external connections. Even if it didn't though, I'd highly recommend not using your work network, as that's 100% trackable through firewall, even if https deep packet isn't enabled (most have it enabled, because why not.)

TLDR; bring your own laptop if it's permitted, and connect via hotspot. Can play at work if you are smart.

Also, if you are just checking your trader, you can also use Teamviewer. They have an app for your phone that you could remote in to your home PC to just check on things, though usability would be difficult, so make sure to have plenty of preset hotkeys set up.