What should be my next purchase for my Necro?

[ScaringChildren]

My Necro is decently geared, so I'm not too concerned with getting standard gear.

But I'm curious what I should save up for as far as quality of life items go.

What I already have:


Jboots
Pre-nerf CoS
Various mid-range WR bags
Various +INT/+HP/+Mana gear
Spells up to my level (49)


What I want/think to save for:


Epic
Zlandicar's Heart
Ring of Dain Frostreaver IV
+MR gear
Spells up to 60
A few Tink bags


Which high end items would be priority for a Necro?

[commongood]

Uff, really depends what you’re interested in doing. Jboots and CoS are really the only truly game breaking trinkets - that aren’t no drop anyway. If we aren’t talking just nice stats stuff like Hiero Cloak or OotIV then things you should be considering:

-Manna Robe - if you want to be min/max’ing then owning this is nice enough. Should not be very high on your list imo.

-Zlandi Heart - I don’t think it’s particularly great for a necro. You’ll be able to vexing/shissarstick yourself to full life and the extra regen isn’t enough to offset Demi Lich.

-Elder Beads - I personally love having these but they’re obviously extremely expensive these days. If I hadn’t looted mine I’m not sure I could see myself valuing them at 400k. They were very nice to have while exp’ing w/o a pet but at 60 I mainly use them to shissarstick heal myself after rezzes / on raids where it’s safe to summon the eye. And to OT hammer.

-Velious legs MQ (preferably SS for boss stats) - I’ve very much enjoyed having this clicky for better QoL.

Okay, on to other - mostly raid drops:

-Epic - very nice with free dps but not strictly speaking needed. Probably won’t allow you to do anything your spellbook alone isn’t already able to. It’s, well, epic though. I’d prioritize this.

-Shissar Staff (VP stick) - very nice but like with epic it won’t suddenly mean your able to camp something you weren’t able to before. Will make you a lot more efficient in certain settings, especially with access to Beads.

-PoHate book (pet focus item) - prioritize this! Not only does it make your Spectre be much bigger (and bigger is always better) it also makes it have more hp and hit harder. This will make a difference to what you can potentially solo if not a massive one.

-Velketor’s bracer - having 500dd clicky is pretty nice for soloing. Not game breaking and useless on raids but probably the item I click the most if soloing trivial stuff.

-10th ring - obvious amazing item. 10 regen clicky is yummy.

Not sure if I’ve left any items.

[ScaringChildren]

thanks! This definitely expands my list

[BarackObooma]

I'll preface this by saying my necro is only 52 and way down the alt playlist.

Both of your lists are missing the fear staff! This has gone down in price from about 30k to 10-12k recently which is a steal. I'm sure you can find a use for mana free fear clicky.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Staff_of_the_Dreaded_Gaze

I am curious about the manna robe. I've never heard of a necro wanting one. It has a cast time and an inefficient hp to mana conversion ratio (60 hitpoints for 20 mana) compared to a necro's lich spells. To spend 130-150k for one seems like a waste. My wizard has one and with his epic it's very nice. I would really only recommend one for a wizard with epic.

[ScaringChildren]

I'll preface this by saying my necro is only 52 and way down the alt playlist.

Both of your lists are missing the fear staff! This has gone down in price from about 30k to 10-12k recently which is a steal. I'm sure you can find a use for mana free fear clicky.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Staff_of_the_Dreaded_Gaze

I am curious about the manna robe. I've never heard of a necro wanting one. It has a cast time and an inefficient hp to mana conversion ratio (60 hitpoints for 20 mana) compared to a necro's lich spells. To spend 130-150k for one seems like a waste. My wizard has one and with his epic it's very nice. I would really only recommend one for a wizard with epic.

Yeah that staff is really nice.

I think I held off on it because I thought I'd be doing a lot more root rotting and charming at my level. However, I still believe it's a must have item.

[commongood]

I'll preface this by saying my necro is only 52 and way down the alt playlist.

Both of your lists are missing the fear staff! This has gone down in price from about 30k to 10-12k recently which is a steal. I'm sure you can find a use for mana free fear clicky.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Staff_of_the_Dreaded_Gaze

I am curious about the manna robe. I've never heard of a necro wanting one. It has a cast time and an inefficient hp to mana conversion ratio (60 hitpoints for 20 mana) compared to a necro's lich spells. To spend 130-150k for one seems like a waste. My wizard has one and with his epic it's very nice. I would really only recommend one for a wizard with epic.

If “canni dancing” its an extra 20 mana per tick. If you’re twitching on a raid that matters. It doesn’t matter if you’re at 80% hp or 20% hp when the raid target dies, what matters is the extra one or two twitches you’ve been able to cast. But yeah it’s mostly a raider’s min/max tool. If you throw in Beads and VP stick you kind of start getting a benefit from it a la with wizard epic as you can then heal yourself for free.

I forgot about the fear stick. Nice to have but only really to save a spell slot. The mana saved at lvl 60 is so marginal.

[GinnasP99]

Check out the quest for words of darkness, its a nice clicky to have when you can't click jboots / don't want to click CoS

[Tuurin]

Check out the quest for words of darkness, its a nice clicky to have when you can't click jboots / don't want to click CoS

This- under-rated item, but actually very useful. I did find the permafrost part a bit of a PITA, but oh well.

Also, if you haven't already you should get a reclaim clicky: https://wiki.project1999.com/Magician_Focus_Items

Nice QoL item for when you are trying to get a max pet and have to try a few times to get it. Easy to buy/farm items for them at your level.

Worth considering if you're looking for an easy resist/raid item: https://wiki.project1999.com/Drachnid_Thyxl
Free/easy to farm alternative to a GBS. That plus https://wiki.project1999.com/Velketor%27s_Spell_Book pretty nice resist items to swap in on raids etc.

[ScaringChildren]

Will the Words of Darkness overwrite Lich though?

I'm assuming you use it for a spell refresh clicky, right?

[Tuurin]

Instant click, doesn't overwrite Lich, and yes refreshes spells when you're indoors (and can't use j-boots). So doesn't really do anything, but does reset spell bar.

[Izmael]

Depending on your finances, tink bags or beads.

Beads because it simply nice to have them on a necro and it's a solid investment - hard to imagine a price crash on this item.

Tink bags because it's a true QoL improvement once you get to HS and Seb.

[thebutthat]

Carrying a couple of stalking probes is useful and cheap to recharge. It's nice if you want to pull some stuff in Kael and getting through the doors in HS.

A lot of people crap on the epic, but I think it's nice and a great clicky for splitting pulls.

SS or Thurg Bracer/Robe/Legs/Boots are some handy clickies to have. Robe, especially if you frequently do Sky. It sucks medding to summon 20 some odd corpses if you're the only necro at the raid.

Bracer of the Hidden can be a handy junk buff to put on a charmed pet when fighting dispelling mobs. You need to screaming terror first, then charm to make sure the top buff slot is open on the mob.

Zheart is nice. It's better at lower levels, but still nice at 60 if you're doing a lot of battery work.

[Psyqo]

-Elder Beads - I personally love having these but they’re obviously extremely expensive these days. If I hadn’t looted mine I’m not sure I could see myself valuing them at 400k. They were very nice to have while exp’ing w/o a pet but at 60 I mainly use them to shissarstick heal myself after rezzes / on raids where it’s safe to summon the eye. And to OT hammer.


Having never owned/used Beads before, when you summon the eye are you able to attack it? Is that how you can get life back with Beads + Shissar stick?

[commongood]

Having never owned/used Beads before, when you summon the eye are you able to attack it? Is that how you can get life back with Beads + Shissar stick?

Yes. Can OT-hammer off of it too

[Psyqo]

Bonkers.

[commongood]

Bonkers.

Remember that eye counts as a pet, so you'll never be able to summon eye if you already have a pet up. That's why it's mostly useful when root rotting (and charming between pulls) and for when you've just been rezzed.

[knottyb0y]

Yeah that staff is really nice.

I think I held off on it because I thought I'd be doing a lot more root rotting and charming at my level. However, I still believe it's a must have item.

Is a mana free, must equip two hander really all that good? I've thought about purchasing it or camping the staff, but I'm really not sure if the utility is all that great.

[ScaringChildren]

Is a mana free, must equip two hander really all that good? I've thought about purchasing it or camping the staff, but I'm really not sure if the utility is all that great.

Yeah, I dunno either.

Fear is also fairly cheap to cast, and you only cast it once per fight usually, so it's not a huge benefit. I dunno maybe it all adds up.

It saves you 1000 mana every ten fights. Certainly doesn't hurt.

However, at this level, I'm root rotting and charming way more than fear kiting.

[commongood]

I have always desired clickies almost above all else on my necro and have never bothered getting this staff. Mind you it's a lot cheaper these days (used to be like 25-30k not THAT long ago) so I might eventually spring for it just for the sake of completion. Having said that I've not been unhappy that I needed to allocate a spell gem for Fear. Especially since getting epic which freed up a slot anyway. And the mana is of zero consequence at level 60 in my experience.

[thebutthat]

That staff is an ok twink item when you can click it. 34 I think? But later down the road, the mana you lose from swapping to it, vs what you'd get from sitting during the tick makes it relatively useless. Plus fear kiting stops being a preferred killing method outside of Skyshrine and DN in mid to late 50s.