View Full Version : Gm morals
craigabot4
09-28-2018, 09:29 PM
I recently received an ip exemption for me and my wife so , me my wife and 1 of my friends could all play together with my paraplegic friend . i then log on the next morning to find a temporary ban on my ip ? i sent messages but nothing. this is ruining my time with our friend since his condition is worsening and we just wanted to play the eq era from before his accident ... morally i think this is extremely disturbing to me imo.
all my friend and my wife want to do is play with our friend who is getting worse before he cant play, we have waited for weeks for this ip exemption just to get ip temp banned again without a reason? if this is the management of the server i don't see a future for it.
craigabot4
09-28-2018, 09:35 PM
Morally this is extremely wrong of them and something needs to be done.
Reddarok
09-28-2018, 09:51 PM
Try again? Could've just been a fluke.
craigabot4
09-28-2018, 09:57 PM
It says exactly : You are currently not allowed to login to the server "becasue" this IP has a temporary block on it . please try again later. ive tried it all day also might want to spell check becasue im pretty sure it's spelled "because"
Jauna
09-28-2018, 09:59 PM
server has rules, your dying friend wont moralize the morals of rules morals and morals.
Phenyo
09-28-2018, 10:01 PM
please move to rnf
craigabot4
09-28-2018, 10:04 PM
what is rnf?
craigabot4
09-28-2018, 10:07 PM
if you mean where i posted this thread it's "because" this is happening in the starting zone area
Tethler
09-28-2018, 10:39 PM
Post in the petition forum if you want them to review you claim. Posting anywhere else and complaining about it and questioning their morals is not likely to improve your odds of getting what you want.
Solist
09-28-2018, 10:59 PM
My armless friend who follows me around to cast CH and buff out of group also needs an IP exemption. He cant type, only do those things though. Don't expect him to respond to tells or pass boxing tests.
Muggens
09-28-2018, 11:40 PM
Permaban inc
Don't use your friend's condition like its a weapon though, that just adds insult to them or to anyone else with varying "worsening" conditions of sorts. Also why put into the question the morals of some GM? How would they even know before you would have mentioned anything to them. They gots rules on here you gotsa follows.
Foxplay
09-29-2018, 12:25 AM
Jokes and Boxing Paranoia from others aside... on a serious note...
If your friend, wife, or anyone that will ever log into your account that has a IP exemption if they cannot pass a box check (able to respond in English, listen to some simple instructions, and move a character around when instructed to do so) then quite frankly unless you can get a lengthy discussion with lead GM's about your friends disability then I would not bother with IP exemption on this server. Its policed and any suspicious player's could report you at any time (granted it may take a few minutes for a GM to check in on it, it may take hours) could be the next day, could be a week, could be a few months, but eventually you will be box checked. If you read the warning the GM/Guide gave you when they granted your IP exemption this information was included...
All parties must be capable of communicating in English with server staff and follow basic commands at any given point.
Remember the rules: 1 client per Real Life player at any time. Deviation from this rule will
result in permanent bans.
This can be rather difficult to abide by if your having someone like... a very young child play, someone who doesn't know English at all, significant others that have absolutely no clue how to control a character in EQ or use the client to type..., people who constantly go afk or leave the distance at which you can communicate with them people with severe disabilities
If your already suspended then you'll have to talk to the server staff anyway about it, whining on the public forums about the GM's will not get you any +faction hits with the GM's
aaezil
09-29-2018, 12:49 AM
Dont multi box man
Menden
09-29-2018, 02:16 AM
Your ip exemption request hasn't been approved yet, when it is we will reply to your post. Every time you bump it you go to the bottom of the list.
I don't think you know what "morals" actually mean so I'll give you a pass.
craigabot4
09-29-2018, 02:40 AM
Thank you for all the negative responses hope i never run into you in-game it would ruin our fun .Me and my wife played for a few hours so i dont see how it would let us on for hours then temporarily put a bann on our ip again the next morning. but again thank you
Scailed
09-29-2018, 02:58 AM
Hey OP. Please don't mistake this for anything other than friendly advice.
Rule No. 1 - When attempting to receive assistance or help from someone that has the ability to do so, your chances of success are significantly higher when ya DO NOT insult and belittle them on their own forums.
It's kinda like when ya are at a restaurant or have to eat on the run. The likelihood of your food not being as advertised/tampered with is a frightening prospect. Although, comparing fast food to EQ isn't the best analogy ever, it should suffice to get the point across enough so ya can learn and move forward.
Friendly advice man - When first meeting a new person, try treating them how you would want to be treated instead. It's a fantastic way to not only receive the help you need, but make some potentially good buddies in the process. A lot of our gm's are lending their time for free to help out. That's a pretty selfless thing to do. That in combination with respect and gratitude is a fantastic way to building a strong, healthy, foundation for a relationship in which these things often become mutual.
Love, Peace, Unicorns, Rainbows, BFF Bracelets etc.
craigabot4
09-29-2018, 03:56 AM
i dont see how i was negative i was only typing out what we were going threw i didnt intend to belittle or anything like that i dont know what you mean. we played for hours so if we didnt have one how could we play? I have discord if you want to talk to us all 4 of us at the same time if you dont believe me so again thank you for the negativity i appreciate it , and thank you for an response to our plee.
Jimjam
09-29-2018, 04:48 AM
I'm always impressed by the calm, measured responses typical of the CSR on this server.
Good luck with your group of four friends IP exemption.
It is unfortunate that you are 4 friends and your username includes the phrase 'bot4', though.
Scailed
09-29-2018, 05:01 AM
It is unfortunate that you are 4 friends and your username includes the phrase 'bot4', though.
I just lollerskated down the street with bottle rockets attached.
Zipity
09-29-2018, 07:25 AM
Meet Craig:
Middle Aged man living at home off usability for multiple personality disorder!
Meet Tina: Craig’s first alter ego and “wife”, she likes to listen to Taylor swift very loud and typically isn’t near the computer!
Meet Billy: Craig and Tina’s 4 yr old son - This little rascal is quite the hellion and constantly jacked up on skittles and Mountain Dew! Billy Further distracts Craig and Tina from being able perform the necessary box check!
Meet Jeffry: Craig’s best friend and actually the most real-life alter ego of Craig. Jeffrey is a drunk and pill abuser, he is always blackout, his condition ever worsening. Trying to reason wor communicate with Jeffrey is mute because odds are he is passed out in his computer chair.
All Craig and crew want is a simple Household IP exemption so they can all level together in the basement off the neighbors stolen WiFi this cant be too much to ask?
craigabot4
09-29-2018, 08:03 AM
bump
craigabot4
09-29-2018, 08:05 AM
bump
craigabot4
09-29-2018, 08:20 AM
bump
craigabot4
09-29-2018, 08:21 AM
Bump
craigabot4
09-29-2018, 08:22 AM
bump.
craigabot4
09-29-2018, 08:23 AM
bump..
nilbog
09-29-2018, 08:29 AM
Did you read/comprehend the reply from Menden? Here it is again:
Your ip exemption request hasn't been approved yet, when it is we will reply to your post. Every time you bump it you go to the bottom of the list.
Muggens
09-29-2018, 09:12 AM
Permaban inc
Jauna
09-29-2018, 10:25 AM
I have no words.
arosian
09-29-2018, 11:14 AM
This server is run by people in their spare time. Stop demanding access and just wait. I'm sorry your friend is sick, but don't use that as an excuse to be pushy.
Lojik
09-29-2018, 11:15 AM
GM Morals here reporting for duty. Didn't read OP what's going on? Please bump your IP exemption request so it goes to the top of the list
trite
09-29-2018, 11:53 AM
What is the point of this post? Questioning a volunteer's morals in a public forum doesn't seem like the best way to solicit their help .....
Either A, they don't have morals and are offended by this and don't care about your plight. Or the more likely B-scenario. They do have some morality and didn't mean to personally inconvenience you, but are now less likely than ever to help.
Madbad
09-29-2018, 12:16 PM
GM Morals here reporting for duty. Didn't read OP what's going on? Please bump your IP exemption request so it goes to the top of the list
:D
loramin
09-29-2018, 12:17 PM
This thread:
https://i.imgur.com/ACbN030.jpg
gkmarino
09-29-2018, 12:55 PM
I almost have no words as well.
Self reflect a little bit here OP, you are creating needless headaches, please show some respect for the staff and the due process. You really bumped your own post here 6 times in the span of 20 minutes and have made rather unreasonable demands. If you read what Menden and Nilbog posted you probably have delayed your own official exemption by bumping it 20 times.
Veeshan
09-29-2018, 01:18 PM
Best trolling thread I've seen so far. Please sticky it. :D
k9quaint
09-29-2018, 01:29 PM
I have words. Meet me in EC, I will MQ them for you.
What happened to craigbot 1, 2 and 3?
Meet Craig:
Middle Aged man living at home off usability for multiple personality disorder!
Meet Tina: Craig’s first alter ego and “wife”, she likes to listen to Taylor swift very loud and typically isn’t near the computer!
Meet Billy: Craig and Tina’s 4 yr old son - This little rascal is quite the hellion and constantly jacked up on skittles and Mountain Dew! Billy Further distracts Craig and Tina from being able perform the necessary box check!
Meet Jeffry: Craig’s best friend and actually the most real-life alter ego of Craig. Jeffrey is a drunk and pill abuser, he is always blackout, his condition ever worsening. Trying to reason wor communicate with Jeffrey is mute because odds are he is passed out in his computer chair.
All Craig and crew want is a simple Household IP exemption so they can all level together in the basement off the neighbors stolen WiFi this cant be too much to ask?
https://youtu.be/1lBYyfdGyS8
Topgunben
09-29-2018, 05:51 PM
Great Thread 10/10.
Andakos
09-29-2018, 11:08 PM
We are moral people. It isn't like we have weekend gatherings where we eat babies and don't floss. Seriously though, we get a ton of IP exemption requests. I'm pretty sure you all have guessed there is a process. That process is pretty labor intensive. I know everyone would like to have a quick turn around on these, but to put it bluntly, too many people have abused exemptions in the past for us to just hand them out. Make sure when you ask for an exemption you read the sticky and get all of the information we need in there, don't bump your posts, for God's sake be patient, and don't accuse us of drowning puppies or anything like that.
Jauna
09-30-2018, 12:25 AM
I wish I had the mental dexterity to post this sooner and do some lines so you can read it in his voice.
Dumluk
09-30-2018, 07:40 AM
I heard Andakos has weekend gatherings where he eats babies and doesn't floss. True story.
Quizlop
09-30-2018, 08:36 AM
Reminds me of this classic thread. (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=208907&highlight=caught)
Ravager
09-30-2018, 10:29 AM
It's morally wrong not to buy your friend a hotspot so he can have his own IP if playing EQ with him means so much. It's also morally wrong not to play other classic multiplayer games with him while you wait for your IP exemption. Morally, you could be doing better for your friend than shaming strangers for handouts.
Penish
09-30-2018, 11:43 AM
Why do people do this? Get a VPN, go play with friends, if your going to box, the server pretty much police's itself. you'll most likely get caught. These GM's are donating time, why would you even wait for an exemption when you could be playing with all your box pals in 15 minutes?
loramin
09-30-2018, 12:17 PM
Reminds me of this classic thread. (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=208907&highlight=caught)
Thanks for the link, that was a great thread.
My favorite part has to be:
dear OP. if you PM me your acct name, or a link to your petition thread, i will gladly look into it on the terms that:
A) if you are guilty, i get to change your suspension to a perma ban
B) if you are not guilty, i will punish the guide that hit you and post here to try to clear your name
your move sir.
... followed by a deafening silence.
Andakos
09-30-2018, 02:55 PM
I heard Andakos has weekend gatherings where he eats babies and doesn't floss. True story.
Nah, its too hard to coax them into the smoker.
Baler
09-30-2018, 03:17 PM
https://i.imgur.com/jekCrNl.png
Nikkanu
09-30-2018, 09:41 PM
Did you read/comprehend the reply from Menden? Here it is again:
Bump
Nikkanu
09-30-2018, 09:44 PM
Every time you bump it you go to the bottom of the list.
Bump
Canelek
09-30-2018, 10:28 PM
I love morels. They can be quite pricey though.
Same thing? No?
Ah yes. OP - go ahead and eat some foil, as it has obviously fallen off of your head. This may have been due to the clever plan you hatched that everyone recognized immediately.
Move to the basket. No, not that one, it has the lotion in it.
Sonorod
09-30-2018, 10:33 PM
Nah, its too hard to coax them into the smoker.
Have you tried telling them not to do it? That's usually when kids rush to do the thing.
Tethler
10-01-2018, 01:14 AM
I like how Craigbot4 is too big of a coward to keep posting. Perhaps Craigbot3 can step up to the plate?
I think that's the one with no arms.
Swish2
10-01-2018, 02:21 AM
I almost have no words as well.
https://i.imgur.com/oBLhcm3.jpg
gkmarino
10-01-2018, 02:39 AM
https://i.imgur.com/oBLhcm3.jpghttps://i.chzbgr.com/full/941382912/h28142DEF/
jacobar
10-01-2018, 03:16 AM
We have weekend gatherings where we eat babies and don't floss. Seriously though...
Omg
matticas
10-01-2018, 04:35 AM
don't conflate "morals" and "getting what you want"
GMs are careful about IP exemption precisely because rule-breakers out there "immorally" box and ruin the game for the rest of us.
So while the slowness may annoy you, you should be thankful to them. Be patient, and good on ya for enjoying the game with friends!
thee ole malignancy or disability (friend has one arm) sob story
classic
ScaringChildren
10-01-2018, 10:52 AM
Picture of the one-armed boy holding up a piece of paper with today's newspaper and your forum name please.
No dirty tricks.
Close up of the severed arm is preferable.
craigabot4
10-01-2018, 11:51 AM
So basically because me and my wife casually logged in threw your fire wall that i guess my fault for assuming i had an exemption . i apologize i had no idea you could stroll threw your fire wall like that . Again sorry for the miss understanding i thought i had it since we played for hours together , then you took it away . silly us i thought the server was more secure then that. We are moving on from all the toxic help. again sorry for the miss understand but we all thought we had the exemption since we all played together. :eek:
craigabot4
10-01-2018, 11:56 AM
BTW my friend is really disabled , so to squash all the negative feed back here is my discord link and you can tell the paraplegic to his face he isnt a paraplegic from breaking his neck in service of our country. cause its really messed up to read these comments and get such negative feed back trying to get help .
https://discord.gg/Yrhc5M
craigabot4
10-01-2018, 12:05 PM
Reddarok = the only non negative reply . Shout out to Reddarok for being the only nice person trying to help . thank you!
Maliant
10-01-2018, 12:17 PM
Stay out of RNF if you want any positive feedback and or sympathy.
Check12345
10-01-2018, 12:20 PM
Some of these threads have to be fake.
feniin
10-01-2018, 12:31 PM
https://www.hookedonphonics.com/
craigabot4
10-01-2018, 12:52 PM
Stay out of RNF if you want any positive feedback and or sympathy.
was moved here , posted else where. thank you for being so positive . all of the comments listed above have been moved to reddit letting everyone know what kind of pos/neg community is actually here. and from every single person except what ? 2? were negative id have to say the majority is indeed negative
Nikkanu
10-01-2018, 12:57 PM
was moved here , posted else where. thank you for being so positive . all of the comments listed above have been moved to reddit letting everyone know what kind of pos/neg community is actually here. and from every single person except what ? 2? were negative id have to say the majority is indeed negative
I'm proud to be one of the positive posters in this thread.
Nikkanu
10-01-2018, 12:58 PM
all of the comments listed above have been moved to reddit letting everyone know what kind of pos/neg community is actually here.
Please post a link, thanks!
Champion_Standing
10-01-2018, 02:00 PM
Very sad story, sorry that you had to be greeted by the RnF crew here at P99 when you're just looking for answers. The truth is your friend will be long dead before he gets on one of these guys loot councils so you can just forget it now.
craigabot4
10-01-2018, 02:50 PM
Very sad story, sorry that you had to be greeted by the RnF crew here at P99 when you're just looking for answers. The truth is your friend will be long dead before he gets on one of these guys loot councils so you can just forget it now.
i figured i would just be banned , so out of all this negative what i did was i took every piece of gear i had and i gave it to someone, my full set of gear so incase i am banned forever atleast someone felt good out of all this . RIP Tibol :(
Nikkanu
10-01-2018, 02:56 PM
i figured i would just be banned , so out of all this negative what i did was i took every piece of gear i had and i gave it to someone, my full set of gear so incase i am banned forever atleast someone felt good out of all this . RIP Tibol :(
That seems very negative...
katrik
10-01-2018, 03:03 PM
Y’all getting trolled hard. Good thread.
Castigate
10-01-2018, 04:58 PM
BTW my friend is really disabled , so to squash all the negative feed back here is my discord link and you can tell the paraplegic to his face he isnt a paraplegic from breaking his neck in service of our country. cause its really messed up to read these comments and get such negative feed back trying to get help .
https://discord.gg/Yrhc5M
If he got disabled from breaking his neck wouldn't he be a quadriplegic?
loramin
10-01-2018, 04:59 PM
all of the comments listed above have been moved to reddit letting everyone know what kind of pos/neg community
Yeah, because /r/project1999 is totally a neutral place to share. It's not like the mods there suspended me for defending the P99 staff too much or anything ... :rolleyes:
i figured i would just be banned , so out of all this negative what i did was i took every piece of gear i had and i gave it to someone, my full set of gear so incase i am banned forever atleast someone felt good out of all this . RIP Tibol :(
Staff is pretty used to dealing with whiners and liars
Doubt they would ban
ScaringChildren
10-01-2018, 05:21 PM
Yeah, because /r/project1999 is totally a neutral place to share. It's not like the mods there suspended me for defending the P99 staff too much or anything ... :rolleyes:
Reddit in general is filled with tiny, censorious tyrants everywhere with power trips.
The users seem to enjoy it even. Major Stockholm Syndrome there.
Besides they're all insufferable, pedantic nerds too.
I'd rather use 4chan but the UI sucks and it's chock full of anime.
d3r14k
10-01-2018, 05:30 PM
Yeah, because /r/project1999 is totally a neutral place to share. It's not like the mods there suspended me for defending the P99 staff too much or anything ... :rolleyes:
To be fair, I would have suspended you too.
You're too helpful, you make the rest of us look bad.
Wonkie
10-01-2018, 07:29 PM
Yeah, because /r/project1999 is totally a neutral place to share. It's not like the mods there suspended me for defending the P99 staff too much or anything ... :rolleyes:
typical BDA bullshit
XeroKill
10-02-2018, 10:43 AM
BTW my friend is really disabled , so to squash all the negative feed back here is my discord link and you can tell the paraplegic to his face he isnt a paraplegic from breaking his neck in service of our country. cause its really messed up to read these comments and get such negative feed back trying to get help .
https://discord.gg/Yrhc5M
Was he defending an orphanage filled with puppies when it happened? How many medals did he get? Should I be standing at attention when I join the discord?
Ravager
10-02-2018, 10:54 AM
Don't give up hope OP! This thread could be one of the greats!
Baler
10-02-2018, 10:56 AM
Don't give up hope OP! This thread could be one of the greats!
Nah it's peaked.
Nah it's peaked.
yea we're done here
Jauna
10-04-2018, 10:09 PM
>reddit is super tolerant!
You folks dont know how good you have it here.
Sonderbeast
10-04-2018, 11:54 PM
>reddit is super tolerant!
You folks dont know how good you have it here.
No, the question itself was indicative that the OP has no comprehension of sex, gender, or orientation.
Tethler
10-05-2018, 12:20 AM
No, the question itself was indicative that the OP has no comprehension of sex, gender, or orientation.
Or they were simply trolling
Jimjam
10-05-2018, 12:43 AM
In this case it apparently stood for 'bye'.
Kowalski
10-05-2018, 08:25 PM
.
Metham
10-05-2018, 09:38 PM
Are we ignoring the "stroll through your firewall" stuff?
Feel like there's some gold in them thar hills
heyokah
10-06-2018, 01:30 PM
Read while pooping, thanks OP.
Susano
10-06-2018, 03:05 PM
P99 in general is filled with tiny, censorious tyrants everywhere with power trips.
The users seem to enjoy it even. Major Stockholm Syndrome there.
Besides they're all insufferable, pedantic nerds too.
Fixed that for you.
that your retarded
Oh, the irony.
Mudson
10-06-2018, 05:31 PM
My armless friend who follows me around to cast CH and buff out of group also needs an IP exemption. He cant type, only do those things though. Don't expect him to respond to tells or pass boxing tests.
OMG best thing Ive heard in a while
Mudson
10-06-2018, 05:35 PM
We are moral people. It isn't like we have weekend gatherings where we eat babies and don't floss.
Andakos confirmed flosser after eating his fair share of pixel babies
Secrets
10-06-2018, 08:07 PM
IP restriction errors are just due to a client list entry not timing out properly. You'll be able to log in again a short time after, provided your IP exemption was not revoked. These messages are automatic and generated by the server, not by a server administrator and they do not indicate you have been banned.
The misspelling of 'because' is actually not on the P99 side of things; this is a typo in the SOE code from 2003-2004ish.
eqlsstr_us.txt, line 198:
198 You are currently not allowed to login to the server becasue this IP has a temporary block on it. Please try again later.
You may want to ensure that your IP address didn't change, and Rants & Flames is not the section to be posting about this anyways.
Swish2
10-06-2018, 10:09 PM
There's no difference between the "banned" message and if your account was suspended either.
If you have a suspended account it will still be marked as banned but will be available again after whatever time period is up.
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