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Jimjam
09-26-2018, 04:12 PM
It's sad to see how empty Velious XP content is. So many camps; Giant forts, orc fort and so on all deserted.

Sonderbeast
09-26-2018, 04:13 PM
it would be nice if they didn't have 80 more AC and 2x hp as average kunark merbs.

bigjeff100
09-26-2018, 05:07 PM
Half the server doesn't want to leave KC, and the other half are AFK in Seb, LFG....

ScaringChildren
09-26-2018, 05:30 PM
I've long said that P99 needs the LFG tool activated. There would be groups in almost every zone if this was the case. Literally makes no sense why its disabled

I've never used the LFG tool on Live.

Is it just a more interactive LFG tag?

bigjeff100
09-26-2018, 05:35 PM
I've long said that P99 needs the LFG tool activated. There would be groups in almost every zone if this was the case. Literally makes no sense why its disabled

Yeah man, this is definitely true... Sometimes i open that lfg window up and just stare at it.. Hoping it'll populate some names.. It doesn't :(

Phenyo
09-26-2018, 06:24 PM
Velious mobs are awful to xp on

d3r14k
09-26-2018, 06:55 PM
Crystal Caverns is pretty awesome.

I also quadded for way longer than I should have at the giant fort in Eastern Wastes because I liked the isolation. Time to dwell over my elf thoughts and all that.

loramin
09-26-2018, 07:01 PM
It's sad to see how empty Velious XP content is. So many camps; Giant forts, orc fort and so on all deserted.

When I was quadding the giant fort I saw other people there all the time, so I wouldn't exactly call it deserted. The orc fort on the other hand ... I don't blame anyone for not using it.

bigjeff100
09-26-2018, 07:09 PM
Crystal Caverns is pretty awesome.

I also quadded for way longer than I should have at the giant fort in Eastern Wastes because I liked the isolation. Time to dwell over my elf thoughts and all that.

I like you sir.

shuklak
09-26-2018, 09:38 PM
I've long said that P99 needs the LFG tool activated. There would be groups in almost every zone if this was the case. Literally makes no sense why its disabled

Is the lfg tool actually functional yet simply disabled?

That would just be drugs.

loramin
09-26-2018, 09:41 PM
As I remember it the LFG tool in practice was just a glorified GUI for /who. It had features like "my group wants a 45 52 rogue", but I don't remember anyone ever actually used any of them: they just did the same basic LFG checks done now but more conveniently.

Maybe others had a different experience?

Nexii
09-26-2018, 10:10 PM
Custom ZEM could fix it..

Swish2
09-26-2018, 10:47 PM
Its essentially global /OOC that lets you clearly set up what your group is looking for and to let people know what you are trying to accomplish. Red basically has this already so why not Blue?

Blue didn't have duck/cancel on spells for years either, people weren't lining up to report that as a bug though...even Daldean was quiet on the issue.

kattming77
09-26-2018, 11:49 PM
global /ooc would be a disaster here too much toxic to go around.

Topgunben
09-27-2018, 12:49 AM
velious is a good containment center for the highest level of Autists. EC tunnel does a pretty good job as well.

Jimjam
09-27-2018, 02:32 AM
Move tunnel to Thurgadin!

Swish2
09-27-2018, 02:38 AM
global /ooc would be a disaster here too much toxic to go around.

You'd learn the blue server isn't so different from the red server. Someone might commit elf suicide at T1 upon this realization/enlightenment.

Canelek
09-27-2018, 02:55 AM
Man, those orcs are way tougher than they need to be.

What level/mana pool range are you guys quadding the giants? Loot/efficiency still blows, but it seems like it can be decent for semi-afk soloing if pulled to decently flat and clear area.

Videri
09-27-2018, 02:59 AM
Yeah man, this is definitely true... Sometimes i open that lfg window up and just stare at it.. Hoping it'll populate some names.. It doesn't :(

Could players create a Discord for P99 LFGs?

Canelek
09-27-2018, 03:06 AM
Could players create a Discord for P99 LFGs?

It would seem a reasonable venture. I would use it to find a group for my rogue. Standing in an over-used zone like Mistmoore waiting for a boring grind group is not exactly good motivation for leveling.

It is the path of least resistance to some though--another alt sped to 50+ just to end up gather dust and earning that DKP.

Hyjalx
09-27-2018, 12:32 PM
Does anyone not remember the Erudite with gold teeth and wooden crook that would spam the global ooc channel with erotic elf stories?

That's why we cant have nice things.

Sonderbeast
09-27-2018, 12:34 PM
Whose? That guy was legit on meth

Lammy
09-27-2018, 12:36 PM
Classic EQ involves traveling to zones, finding a group and making friends.

loramin
09-27-2018, 12:47 PM
Could players create a Discord for P99 LFGs?

I think the issue is critical mass. A discord with ten people who join at all different hours doesn't help anyone, and will quickly become a discord with zero people.

The trick is to somehow get enough people excited about the idea to have a critical mass (maybe 50?) actively using the channel, so that it has enough momentum to sustain itself.

Daallee
09-27-2018, 01:05 PM
Loot and especially exp suck in Velious. Main purpose there is factioning for Thurg/SS quests and raiding

shuklak
09-27-2018, 01:44 PM
As I remember it the LFG tool in practice was just a glorified GUI for /who. It had features like "my group wants a 45 52 rogue", but I don't remember anyone ever actually used any of them: they just did the same basic LFG checks done now but more conveniently.

Maybe others had a different experience?used it on agnarr a lot. You can be anon or role and it sees you too. Justt throw up lfg and you can add a note too for saying something like seb keyed or that you have a high level druid roommate.

loramin
09-27-2018, 01:47 PM
used it on agnarr a lot. You can be anon or role and it sees you too. Justt throw up lfg and you can add a note too for saying something like seb keyed or that you have a high level druid roommate.

Right, I didn't mean it never got used, I just meant ... how many times when you were looking for a replacement did you actually use the fancy tool user interface to specify "my group is looking for a rogue with these specific levels", and then waited for the right one to turn up, vs. how often did you just use it to see what LFG rogues were out there so you could send them a tell?

Maybe you did use the features, and if so I'm curious to hear that, but just my experience was very few people used the tool "properly", and most just used it as a glorified /who lfg all.

loramin
09-27-2018, 01:48 PM
Oh, just noticed that you said Agnarr. Being a decades-newer server probably changed things. So did people actually use the tool "properly" there?

loramin
09-27-2018, 01:50 PM
Oh, just noticed that you said Agnarr. Being a decades-newer server probably changed things. So did people actually use the tool "properly" there?

Gah, I hate the lack of edit in RnF. I'm especially curious about how you used it "properly". Was it mainly the notes, or did you use the "group looking for another" feature too?

shuklak
09-27-2018, 02:30 PM
I only use the part that lets you see lfg players (can sort or view select classes and levels) or make yourself lfg.

Its incredibly useful and does nothing more than eliminate wasted time and effort.

If devs remove it even though it was useable thats about as nonsensical as the raid scene.

Loke
09-29-2018, 03:54 AM
I haven't used it in awhile, but afaik even lfg variables don't seem to work anymore (e.g. /who all LFG 45 55 cleric). That example used to return all clerics within the range of 45 and 55 who were LFG, but for some reason it quit working sometime during kunark. Made building groups a whole lot easier and faster imo.

Also, this server used to have global OOC, and it was glorious. The server population back then was only like 600 people during peak hours, so a significantly smaller population, but I like the option of being able to monitor a server wide channel. You could of course turn it off as well. I'm still amazed no one has come forward with logs of the old Andain and Danth erotica that used to get spammed in global OOC. Some of that stuff was absolute gold. I lost all my logs prior to ~2012 when a hard drive shit out on me.

Elerial
09-29-2018, 04:11 AM
I used lfg tool on live during the pop era and it was great. You could be someplace out of the way and still find people for your grp without going through 3-12 /who all class levellow levelhigh

dcrag
09-29-2018, 06:12 AM
Lookin for a static cleric for 59-60 grind, double charm grp!

Crawdad
09-29-2018, 08:54 AM
Man, those orcs are way tougher than they need to be.

What level/mana pool range are you guys quadding the giants? Loot/efficiency still blows, but it seems like it can be decent for semi-afk soloing if pulled to decently flat and clear area.

Giant fort's nice since there are 8 same-ish level giants (and the captain, who you just harmony). If you have a lumi staff they're not bad 46-51 or 49-51 with no staff.

Lojik
09-29-2018, 11:19 AM
People were hyping velious for years before release here, then they were sick of it after like 3 months. It's now been how long? 3 years?

Elerial
09-29-2018, 08:06 PM
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branamil
09-29-2018, 08:24 PM
seems like Velks should be perma camped like Seb, its even right next to a portal. I think its really just a testament to how disgustingly overpowered Seb loot is for the difficulty.

Nexii
09-29-2018, 08:40 PM
seems like Velks should be perma camped like Seb, its even right next to a portal. I think its really just a testament to how disgustingly overpowered Seb loot is for the difficulty.

Sorta, I've always felt that people are primarily in Sebilis for EXP and any loot was a bonus. Excluding King camp. Sebilis is better EXP so people gravitate there..

I think there's also a strong pull for a popular zone remaining the most popular. People will naturally first go where they're most likely to find a group. I kinda see this like asking why isn't Thurgadin the auction hub rather than EC? Cause it's always been EC..

XeroKill
09-30-2018, 10:18 PM
The real problem is all the camps are jammed up with Shaman / Enchanter solo or duo's. Even in Seb half the place is usually camped by about 6 people.

Bisonzabi
10-16-2018, 11:16 AM
Classic EQ involves traveling to zones, finding a group and making friends.

So in other words just wonder around aimlessly from overland to overland in Velious just to say fuck it and travel to Kunark for a group in KC, Seb ect because ultimately that's where the groups tend to happen.

Velious was always a flawed expansion rushed out quickly to meet the demands of the high end raiders. Kunark is chill as fuck and the best out of the two.

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