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Breton
08-12-2018, 08:25 PM
Hey all,

I want to play a Dark Elf SK or Dwarf Paladin.

I'll probably never raid and don't care about min maxing. Mostly group tanking and some solo play when I can't be on for long enough that a group is worthwhile.

What do you suggest I go with?

Danth
08-12-2018, 08:47 PM
Flip a coin, because it's pretty much a wash. Group desirability is about a tie. Paladin's the slightly better group tank, while the Shadow Knight offers better solo capability from about level 22 (especially 30) onward. Paladin offers cheaper class-specific equipment and easier factions while the SK's escape options will save you deaths and hence time. The relative advantages more or less cancel each other out, in terms of the life of a mid-level casual character with limited funding.

Danth

Foxplay
08-12-2018, 09:22 PM
I'd say SK for a casual as it offers more potential for solo play, and other nice things such as both invisibility types (invis and undead Invis) as well feign death make travel in the game alot easier

Tanking your desirability is the same as paladin

Arkanjil
08-13-2018, 04:54 AM
While I’m a huge fan of paladins, I think the SK will fit your play style more. Need to go afk real quick but it’s not a safe area? FD. Want to solo a bit because you don’t have time for a group or can’t find one? SK wins.

Swish2
08-13-2018, 05:24 AM
Not to mention you can hide, more easily draw AOE aggro on overpulls to keep the cleric/backline safe, and indeed...FD if you find yourself pulling and get too many (pull with the weaken line, not disease cloud) ^^

Breton
08-13-2018, 06:23 AM
SK sounds like the winner. Thanks all.

I'm not completely untwinked. Have some seb scale armor kicking around as well as a decent 1hs and shield to get started so I should be fairly decent from out of the gate.

The name is Veserath if you see me around and want to say hi.

EpicAdventure
09-01-2018, 04:03 PM
oh a dark elf sk how unique. lol.

Every other race that can be sk is much better, either by stats, non stat advantages (regen), or pure cosmetics (there is probably 10 DE sk for every 1 non DE). Ogre best in worse gear, Euridite has high int and magic resist, Iskar has huge regen equivalent to having a fungi equipped at all times at lvl 60. Just my 2 cents.

Also, In General, Paladin is stronger / better then SK all the way from level 9 to 60, at which point the sk finally becomes better with the acquisition of the "good" FD.

Breton
09-01-2018, 04:36 PM
oh a dark elf sk how unique. lol.

Every other race that can be sk is much better, either by stats, non stat advantages (regen), or pure cosmetics (there is probably 10 DE sk for every 1 non DE). Ogre best in worse gear, Euridite has high int and magic resist, Iskar has huge regen equivalent to having a fungi equipped at all times at lvl 60. Just my 2 cents.

Also, In General, Paladin is stronger / better then SK all the way from level 9 to 60, at which point the sk finally becomes better with the acquisition of the "good" FD.

The game has been out since 99 brother. Nothing is "unique" anymore. Ogre and Troll are not my jam. Don't wanna deal with the slow level of an Iksar. Human and Erudite are just kind of boring. Gnome is kinda cool though.

What makes a paladin better? Are the cleric based spells better than the necro based spells?

khandman
09-01-2018, 05:47 PM
Paladin obviously

pickled_heretic
09-02-2018, 12:00 AM
Paladins have strong heals (heal like a druid until 51+), instant snap aggro, roots and stuns, pacify, useful (if not amazing) buffs. Shadowknights piss off my enchanter, with their gay shadowknight aids they spam on every mob and pet they are often too lazy to control. If you like groupin imo pallies are the clear choice.

heyokah
09-04-2018, 04:39 AM
Some say paladin soloing isnt that bad. This is true if you pick the right spots 1-48ish. After that it really is super boring. You basically just joust or root to back off and click the DW helm. Gear plays a factor ofc, but IMO pallies are very strong as a group tank.

diamondfist
09-04-2018, 04:46 AM
Hey all,

I want to play a Dark Elf SK or Dwarf Paladin.

I'll probably never raid and don't care about min maxing. Mostly group tanking and some solo play when I can't be on for long enough that a group is worthwhile.

What do you suggest I go with?

whatever sounds more appealing to you.

both can solo ... even well if your a skilled player and being smart about which places you fight.

both are great tanks.


this is the main difference imo

shadow knights are much more of a selfish playstyle ... lifetaps, self str, ac , atk siphons ... the ability to FD if your in trouble for CC they only have a snare and fear.

Pallys are more giving, stun a caster to stop a CH, or to save that person low health whos about to be nuked. the ability to literally save a life even if its just for a moment with lay of hands. buffs for yourself and others, the ability to root which is much more of a real CC option.


So do you want to save lives and be a hero...
or
Do you want to focus on yourself and really tunnel vision yourself, and not worry about others :)

Breton
09-04-2018, 07:32 AM
whatever sounds more appealing to you.

both can solo ... even well if your a skilled player and being smart about which places you fight.



Is there a decent guide for this? I started a HE pally as well and am just gonna play them both until one gets more fun than the other. I'm level 10 on the Pally now. Where do you suggest I go now/next?

Bordsythenewb
09-04-2018, 08:02 AM
Play both. Problem solved