Get some reality here! Served up, hot and fresh!

[clevergirl]

https://youtu.be/yWjDBWXzBLQ

[skarlorn]

Didn't click

[Phenyo]

Didn't click

[MagpieRockyl]

Didn't click

Spoopy

[Mead]

Clicked

I prefer sweet potato pie

[Cecily]

Think I'm gonna make a custard pie soon, which I haven't eaten for years.
Sweet potato probably 2nd favorite.

[Wonkie]

does the gender reassignment doctor charge for *parts* AND labor? what a rip off!

[LulzSect©]

Didn't click

[Patriam1066]

Didn't click

[clevergirl]

does the gender reassignment doctor charge for *parts* AND labor? what a rip off!

I don't know what this has to do with this thread, but it's just labor, and supplies, the doc doesn't charge for *parts* just meds and services. The *parts* are all recycled-re-used.

Probably in a few years they'll be cloning vaginas and penises with detergented -spinach leaves. That may cost extra-at some point.

Skin is skin. My neo-outside vagania is pretty cool btw, colors changed, texture, if i ever get surgery i'm sure it'll feel gud.

[AzzarTheGod]

w if i ever get surgery i'm sure it'll feel gud.

Cringing at aspirations of surgery

[clevergirl]

Cringing at aspirations of surgery

Already enjoying multiple female orgasms. ;)

[chadtwoke]

this thread is filed under




drugs.

[mickmoranis]

can someone on the left please explain this to me:

the left is staunchly anti christian, but prominently anti religion.

But you will drop ALL your shit and get into a fight online if you see someone say a SINGLE fucking bad thing about Muslims.

WHY THIS?

My hypothesis: Bush and all his red neck cronies (family members to many of you) long dicked you in the ass so hard for 8 years you chose to side with muslims cus they clearly did not, JUST so you could point out how different from them you were. Like when a kid takes up dressing Goth.

(since that seems to be like what drives everything you do)

examples:

The left wants more space and nasa research: trump says we'll spend an equal amount of our military spending on space as we do our other divisions of the military -- what did you all do? Freak out and call him an idiot.

Hmm ok thats wierd ok well what about the next thing:

Bernie sanders was the loudest part of your electorates clearly favorite candidate, he wanted to increase tarifs on trade and reduce american exports and imports: Trump does literally this and all you can do is make it out to be some kind of fubar trade war

YOU WERE AGAINST THE WAR in the middle east: UNTIL OBAMA INCREASED IT MORE THAN BUSH DID

you are against military spending: UNLESS ITS OBAMAs largest pacific military budget increase in american history!

You want peace in korea: now you dont want it

You want peace with russia, hillary wanted to reset the clock (so long as we get them to agree to the TPP, oh wait no TPP well): NOW you dont want peace with russia at all!

I mean I could go on and on and on....



BUT DONT you think its a bit childish to support a religion, which is something you HATE, simply because dad and mom tell you to not like muslims?

DONT you feel a little petulant being an adult now and being JUST as angsty and contrarian as you were when you were 14?

Get real folks.

Yall prolly cant even spell athiest

[Cecily]

^ didn't click

[Tethler]

can someone on the left please explain this to me:

the left is staunchly anti christian, but prominently anti religion.

But you will drop ALL your shit and get into a fight online if you see someone say a SINGLE fucking bad thing about Muslims.



Stopped reading here. Say all you want about muslims. Their religion is possibly more shitty than the rest of the shitty religions.

[clevergirl]

I don't hate all of christian christianity superbad. I know a few cool theological deviants. BTW.

so your a trans gender with reassigned sexual organs too?

I think 're-assignment' is a misnomer. I mean, my shits already what it is, it's pretty cool and different tho. :D

But yeah, I had surgical intervention and it's changed things a bit. Not sure I would call it re-assignment though, as that is a matter entirely of perspective. :D ;)

Hmm, maybe linux kernal modules and configuration, .makefiles is the best analogy I can think of. I mean the codes all there, and it's just a matter of "realizing what hardware u have, and compiling for it, rather than running with a default build". That's one way to look at it. Still kind of oversimplification and laypersony, and easily attacked from other points of view. Lots of cool thoughts lately btw.

Maybe this thread was supposed to be about muslim pies and got derailed.

I love pumpkin, sweet potato pie, but I'd hate for bean pie to have pumpkin spice added to it. I think bean pies are good as bean pies, but my pie is an American pie :D I dig muslim-american pies :D, as well as applepies, and british meat pies.

[skarlorn]

i hope that i die as a person who believes there are only 3 genders. male. female. and the mentally ill.

[clevergirl]

i hope that i die as a person who believes there are only 3 genders. male. female. and the mentally ill.

u can believe it as much as u want, but sane happy ppl are already changing it from a mental illness diagnosis, and officially it's not a mental pathology. If u wanna research on that feel free, or w/e

Sorry you are upset by it Skarlorn. But not sorry. (buttt deliberately used in this case). :cool:

[skarlorn]

really not upset friend. i feel for you and hope you don't kill yourself or damage others. humans are male or female. then, there are the mentally ill. i can understand people who transition from one gender to another but won't, druing my lifetime, give space to those who believe there is something beyond biological structure! ty!

[clevergirl]

really not upset friend. i feel for you and hope you don't kill yourself or damage others. humans are male or female. then, there are the mentally ill. i can understand people who transition from one gender to another but won't, druing my lifetime, give space to those who believe there is something beyond biological structure! ty!

You do realize they've brainscanned trans and find female structures in them and vice versa?

Biological structure isn't 100% dicktated by chromosomes only. Hope this helps.

Also, chromosomes do not equal genetic expression. They can often be a good predictor sometimes, but not 100% of the time accurate or down to the fine details and happenings. There's no master on off switch, and if there is, we can flip it baby. Check out androgen insensitivity.

Or all the other things.

Yeah, there is pretty much "male and female" you're MOSTLY sort of right in that regard, and yeah, there are a lot of male to me, but it's not 100% absolute bruh. Hence, you are not absolutely right or even right at all to simplify it to that level in regards to medicine or science. I'd regard your absolutism is tyrannical and also wrong socially. Not just scientifically.

People with PHds and intelligence who aren't quacks and dumb dumbs side with me on this 1.

People who are dumb dumbs and mad about gender and trannies get payed 2 be mad about it and misinform the public with oversimplifications and twistings of reality.

That being, that you can't determine male and female 100% accurately on looks and what not alone, and u can't force gender on people.

My gender expression is innate as well as somewhat nature + nurture, and not a mental illness that requires some gymnastics 2 go thru, it just is what it is, sorry *aktually if that doesn't fit your expectation of reality and your kindergarten understanding of chromosomes.

Factory defaults overrated. Especially when operating in environments out of bounds of originally intended design. I am super-human. Not sub-human.

*aktually: sorry but not sorry

The logical fallacy you subscribe to is that because I'm male my default mode should be manly masculine man. That is a flawed and ignorant short sighted perception of the issue. If that was the case, I would be 100% succesful and masculine. I did serve in the Army dudebro and have boysex with women. Probably something super manly, but did that work out so well? Gender as a performance for the sake of chromosomal assignment is still retarded. It's mentally ill. Just as much as you accuse me acting normally and correcting my biology of being mentally ill. Perspective.

For me, it's best if I continue to acknowledge that being a man is dumb and bad and in poor taste when my body is happier this way.

Hindsight 20/20 and all that you can listen to an expert telling you to dig deeper and listen there is MORE going on here, or listen to a moron politician or fundamentalist extremist :D You chose. Freedumb pally.

[Cecily]

really not upset friend. i feel for you and hope you don't kill yourself or damage others. humans are male or female. then, there are the mentally ill. i can understand people who transition from one gender to another but won't, druing my lifetime, give space to those who believe there is something beyond biological structure! ty!

My first and last trip to a trans support group at my college almost got me lynched when I mansplained why the gender binary was a good thing to the half dozen FTM or genderqueer girls there.

[clevergirl]

Cecily is also an expert. Plz listen to her, she's better at communicating.

[skarlorn]

I'm experimenting with limiting my openindededness. You have to respect this just as I have to respect gender binary transgender people (but believe non binary gender assignment is mental illness.) Thanks!

Ps- the structure of brain for a mentally ill person is also different

[clevergirl]

I'm experimenting with limiting my openindededness. You have to respect this just as I have to respect gender binary transgender people. Thanks!

I hope that works out for you, good luck!

[Cecily]

I'm experimenting with limiting my openindededness. You have to respect this just as I have to respect gender binary transgender people (but believe non binary gender assignment is mental illness.) Thanks!

Ps- the structure of brain for a mentally ill person is also different

Yeah, I actually share that opinion. However, you should consider (or don't) the concept of liminality:

"In anthropology, liminality (from the Latin word līmen, meaning "a threshold") is the quality of ambiguity or disorientation that occurs in the middle stage of rites, when participants no longer hold their preritual status but have not yet begun the transition to the status they will hold when the rite is complete."

Non-binary gender identification is quick way to consolidate your ego when you're literally in the middle. I don't like it, but it may serve as an apt description seeing as I'm going to be in the depths of liminal weirdness pretty soon myself. As much as I'd like to, I can't get to point B from A immediately.

[Nexii]

My first and last trip to a trans support group at my college almost got me lynched when I mansplained why the gender binary was a good thing to the half dozen FTM or genderqueer girls there.

You know, I had similar vibes going to support. Like I was the only real MTF there or something.....idk how to put it. Or at least the only centrist

[clevergirl]

*updatebump:

I'm experimenting with limiting my openindededness. You have to respect this just as I have to respect gender binary transgender people. Thanks!

I hope that works out for you, good luck!

I would go so far as to say that binary mode works for you, it's totally normal. It's not important to overthink it. You may only run into rough edges around a few "way out there folks" Best not to be entirely upset when these issues and disagreements happens. Likely, most of the time you will never know, and would not ever know unless people make an issue out of it. It takes two people to have a fight, so please don't lay it all on trans-stuff. I am sick and tired of being the target and blamed for all the problems people can't cope with on their own and being used as a political tool. I hope you can appreciate that, but if you don't care, and won't, I have nothing more to really add.

TLDR: I'd personally prefer it if this all just went back down under the radar to personal levels of involvement among enlightened beings in the big scheme of things, and stopped being about cultural warfare and being the purview of politics and scare mongering. On BOTH sides.

The above peoples experiences is similar to my own. There are a lot of extremos out there. They just do what they do. TLDR: Stereotypes are bad.

[LulzSect©]

https://i.imgur.com/sz3IAZJ.gif

[Cecily]

Let's discuss this. Why am I crazy? Why should I be locked up? What methods of rehabilitation would you suggest?

[LulzSect©]

Look xude, normal is crazy. Fuck what some fat fuck forever alone on the internet thinks shit

[Mblake1981]

really not upset friend. i feel for you and hope you don't kill yourself or damage others. humans are male or female. then, there are the mentally ill. i can understand people who transition from one gender to another but won't, druing my lifetime, give space to those who believe there is something beyond biological structure! ty!

We are a bored society and people. The cure for boredom is curiosity..

I don't comprehend the need or want to dabble with sex changes. Maybe their body is their hobby, like getting a new Iphone..

Trans: "Check it out guise, my new spinach gash is sooo kewl! I have had multiple female orgasms! :D"

Reg. Person: "How do you know its female orgasms when you are not female?"

Trans: "I am female, I have this gash! X("

Reg. Person: "But how do you know that is what a real female feels?"

Trans: "Shut up dummy!"

Reg. Person: "Lol"

[LulzSect©]

i mean you can't undo permanent body mutiliation

think about how great it is to piss ANYWHERE, ANYTIME by merely pointing and aiming (poorly)

[LulzSect©]

really not upset friend. i feel for you and hope you don't kill yourself or damage others. humans are male or female. then, there are the mentally ill. i can understand people who transition from one gender to another but won't, druing my lifetime, give space to those who believe there is something beyond biological structure! ty!

[Cecily]

i mean you can't undo permanent body mutiliation

think about how great it is to piss ANYWHERE, ANYTIME by merely pointing and aiming (poorly)

You'd be surprised how much worse that works lately!

SRS is a quality of life boost for the right people. Less anxiety about clothes and safety. Feeling better about my body. Legal reasons too. Or you know.. I could pee anywhere and skip the horrific recovery. Actually a hard decision.

[Nexii]

I think the argument is that things one doesn't understand shouldn't exist.

[Cecily]

It ain't natural!

[mickmoranis]

can someone on the left please explain this to me:

the left is staunchly anti christian, but prominently anti religion.

But you will drop ALL your shit and get into a fight online if you see someone say a SINGLE fucking bad thing about Muslims.

WHY THIS?

My hypothesis: Bush and all his red neck cronies (family members to many of you) long dicked you in the ass so hard for 8 years you chose to side with muslims cus they clearly did not, JUST so you could point out how different from them you were. Like when a kid takes up dressing Goth.

(since that seems to be like what drives everything you do)

examples:

The left wants more space and nasa research: trump says we'll spend an equal amount of our military spending on space as we do our other divisions of the military -- what did you all do? Freak out and call him an idiot.

Hmm ok thats wierd ok well what about the next thing:

Bernie sanders was the loudest part of your electorates clearly favorite candidate, he wanted to increase tarifs on trade and reduce american exports and imports: Trump does literally this and all you can do is make it out to be some kind of fubar trade war

YOU WERE AGAINST THE WAR in the middle east: UNTIL OBAMA INCREASED IT MORE THAN BUSH DID

you are against military spending: UNLESS ITS OBAMAs largest pacific military budget increase in american history!

You want peace in korea: now you dont want it

You want peace with russia, hillary wanted to reset the clock (so long as we get them to agree to the TPP, oh wait no TPP well): NOW you dont want peace with russia at all!

I mean I could go on and on and on....



BUT DONT you think its a bit childish to support a religion, which is something you HATE, simply because dad and mom tell you to not like muslims?

DONT you feel a little petulant being an adult now and being JUST as angsty and contrarian as you were when you were 14?

Get real folks.

Yall prolly cant even spell athiest

[Wonkie]

ima doxx a hotty ima cast Trans:Locate

ok cya tip waitress

[skarlorn]

Cec has a interesting point towards liminality. But liminality is still from a passage between from one polar definition (child to adult) or (boy to man) or (male to female) or (female to male).

I accept that people int his transitionary period experience a liminal dissolution of polar identity. However, I still view there as only being two genders for the human species, male and female. The liminal state of transfemme transmale whatever is a psychological complex to deal with this extremely traumatic experience, which could be oversimplified by calling it mental illness.

If somenoe demands I call them octosexual or whatever that's when I will say "no sorry bud or buddy girl"

much love from the cisgender, heteronormative tax paying businessman side of life

[skarlorn]

ima doxx a hotty ima cast Trans:Locate

ok cya tip waitress

fuck off with this fire mate when did u elvel up

[AzzarTheGod]

ima doxx a hotty ima cast Trans:Locate

ok cya tip waitress

Bars

[Mblake1981]

I think the argument is that things one doesn't understand shouldn't exist.

*eyes narrow*

It ain't natural!

It isn't. I will never truly believe it because you are not. I don't think you need to be thrown in prison anymore than my mentally ill uncle does, he doesn't. I regulate you to the same category as people that get all over body tattoos, weird piercings. They don't want to be part of the norm but I think some want the norm to accept them as norm, which goes against the will to not be norm.

[clevergirl]

I think the big take away is, it's kind of pointless to try and justify my existence, as I am to these kids on the internet here.

And no -having a "mutilated gash X" doesn't make one a female. However, it's not for you to decide what sex my brain is or what I need to live comfortably with my body the way it is. Or what I talk about it, or how I frame that. Especially if you are not my doctor. And you have no business deciding socially who I am and what I get to be and how I live. You don't for cis-straight-heterosexual woman. You don't get to do the different to me, just because of a chromosome, which should be none of your absolute business. Now if I'm running around with a flat top and a deep voice calling myself a girl IRL. I wouldn't be surprised if you questioned my sanity. Raised a few eyebrows, or felt uncomfortable with me in the woman's room. People, generally aren't doing that. I don't want to be transgender IRL. I don't want to be non-binary IRL. I just wan't my body to not suck, and to be treated with the same respect other people are "who look like women". Because by golly gosh god darnit, that's what I pretty much look like now.

People call everyone tranny on this forum though, and maybe partly "maerilith" is to blame for that. Really though, you don't need to know. Yet, every account that ever gets rolled gets called names. Sometimes ya'll get thinking it's a ciswoman, and then ya go nuts.

I have too much fun being open and honest here though with you all. Ya'll need some sunshine and reality in your lives that isn't an echochamber. I exist here just fine, and ya'll can get over it. Or pages of #mad YOUR NOT A GIRL posts are just fine as well.

How many times are you going to call me not a girl? I don't care lol.

Anyway, it's improper to police peoples gender. Because YOU CAN NOT POSSIBLY know. It's possible, you could very well get it wrong, vary many times, and it creates a shitty world to live in for people who aren't your version of perfect. Which is shitty and wrong as hell.

Case in point the cool women, who are genetically XX and have deep voices and crew cuts, that I know IRL (they don't identify as trans all of them, some still have ovaries, /boobs). You going to police their gender for not being "female" enough? I hope not. You may mistake one for a dudebro, but maybe not. They wouldn't freak about it if you did unless you were an asshole.

I don't freak out if someone pronouns me wrong, unless they are fucking hostile. Despite whatever you guys may or may not realize, I often get called "miss" 98% of the time regardless of what I am doing. Or say. And I am more happy with that than being called an otherkin or transgender. And I legally need to protect myself from psychopaths who believe in the transgender boogymonsters because they are braindead neo-cucks. My ID reflects who I am :a woman.

I'm going to continue to call you dumb dumbs for being sperglords about sex and gender and "gay frogs". Especially when it pops up from a politician, who'm can go straight to hell for all I care.

The last thing I want to be is a fucking non-binary queer person, but hey those ppl are fine in my book, I just don't want to be one either. And it's a majority of dumb assholes who pigeon hole me into the "Ur just a weird tranny freak" category, because they don't actually know me. And those that do know me, and still do, are real fucking pieces of work morons IRL who are /cut the fuck off. If that's the kind of relationship you want with a trans person, all you have to do is be an asshole. Trust me they won't hang around U. You're missing out and selling them short though. All because of some retarded ass fucking beliefs you have :D

Hope those work out for YOU.

[LulzSect©]

https://i.imgur.com/3Od9IqZ.jpg

[JurisDictum]

Do you think its that estrogen makes you nutty, emotional, and prone to jabbering? Or is that testosterone makes you more focused, action-oriented, and rational?

[mickmoranis]

what would muslims have to do to not be the religion of choice for athiests and liberals?

Fly airplanes into the world trade center [ ]
Not be brown [ x ]

:rolleyes:

[Baler]

what would muslims have to do to not be the religion of choice for athiests and liberals?

most black males in prison [ ]
Not be brown [ x ]

:rolleyes:

FTFY
https://i.imgur.com/mrH5qwr.gif

[clevergirl]

Do you think its that estrogen makes you nutty, emotional, and prone to jabbering? Or is that testosterone makes you more focused, action-oriented, and rational?

I think last I had labs it was 14ng/dL

It's been really low forever now. Pretty clear headed too. I've been losing the weight big time and that might have my energy levels up.

There's a big difference in mental-scape between male/female hormone levels. Don't take my word for it though. It encompasses a lot, but it's not totally everything gender and sex wise.

I think with all the progress I've made I've gotten more interesting and deeper and less aggro in general. Female rage (yep I used the woRdD!!) is way different than "male" rage and T-rage.

Though trans men would be like "testosterone makes me calm and I'm OK with that and I'm not angry at all". And yeah probably lots of times it doesn't even have that big of an effect.

I was always this fucking cool. Now I'm just aware of it and have grown into it.

[clevergirl]

The only reason you don't accept me is because you know my birth sex and chromosomes. If you didn't you'd have no clue. Get over yourself, you are not that great of a detective. I'm just lazy and don't give a shit how some random on the interwebz who refuses to use reason honestly feels about this stuff.

You're jimmies are like perma rustled. It's fucking mad glorious. And it's not even my goal. I don't actively even expend effort to do it. I just am. And you cannot fucking cope at all. Period. LOL.

I feel really bad for your family bblake.

Oh damn? Kill shot on blake? There was an angry post there for a minute, than poof...

Did I get a death threat? Are the mods looking out for us?

[Mblake1981]

The only reason you don't accept me is because you know my birth sex and chromosomes. If you didn't you'd have no clue. Get over yourself, you are not that great of a detective. I'm just lazy and don't give a shit how some random on the interwebz who refuses to use reason honestly feels about this stuff.

You're jimmies are like perma rustled. It's fucking mad glorious. And it's not even my goal. I don't actively even expend effort to do it. I just am. And you cannot fucking cope at all. Period. LOL.

I feel really bad for your family bblake.

Oh damn? Kill shot on blake? There was an angry post there for a minute, than poof...

Did I get a death threat? Are the mods looking out for us?

I am so rustled right now.

[clevergirl]

1981 was a good year to be born. IDK what else to say about it mblake1981. There was a post and not a post, and now you seem happier. I'm glad.

[Cecily]

I'm just saying, God would have put holes in your ears if he wanted them there.

[Mblake1981]

https://i.imgur.com/juBdoSz.jpg

Skipper: "fire control, con, do you have a solution?"

Fire Control: "con, fire control, aye sir"

Skipper: "fire control, con, aye, open outer doors, stand by"

Fire Control: "fire control, con, aye"

[clevergirl]

The Hunt for Red Octobor is a really good movie.

https://i.imgur.com/VxxyG9E.gif

That's a terrible gif tho.

People need to fuck off if they can't find common ground and just fucking live.

[Baler]

People need to fuck off if they can't find common ground and just fucking live.
https://i.imgur.com/QdoWr6Y.gif

[Cecily]

Well, in my opinion, trans people are just like anyone else and deserve the same resp*KEERRBOOOM*

https://i.imgur.com/n9EOfyD.gif

[clevergirl]

I enjoyed Silent Service (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_Service_(video_game)) on the Nintendo as a kid.

[clevergirl]

https://i.imgur.com/p4OTE5v.png

fuk this screen was so cool

[Cecily]

That sure is some menu.

[LulzSect©]

Terrible NES game


*hunt red October