Quad kiting: why not 16? And more questions

[Topgunben]

I'm asking because I don't know the answer, not to prove a point. Why is it that druids and wizards quad kite, when up to 16 mobs can be damaged at a time by aoe spells? Why not kite 16 mobs?

Also, how do you all manage resists on AoE kiting? Does that really mess up your system?

How does AoE snare work? Seems like it would be a nightmare with resists with some mobs running faster than others.

[Topgunben]

Snare lasts forever so soon as you get em snared its plenty for them to die. Druid and Wiz AoE hit 4 mobs not 16, that's why they do 4

Thanks for clarifying. I always assumed AOE could hit more than 4 mobs. Now I know.

[Aaeriele]

Targeted AoE is up to 4 mobs.
PBAoE (point blank) is up to 25 mobs.

Quad kiting uses targeted aoe spells. Bard swarming uses PBAoE DoT songs.

[Topgunben]

When Chardok runs we're still going on, how many mobs did they have in the fray? How did they keep them all mass rooted without a couple of them breaking?

[Troxx]

Chardok aoe involved enchanters keeping everything chain stun-locked while a crew of PBAOE wizards/mages aoe nuked em down.

[P99Druid]

there was no aoe cap during Chardok aoe days, so there would be 125-175 mobs in camp at once all being aoe stunned by 2-3 enchanters while a couple wizards aoed them to death.

[LulzSect©]

list n to spyder

He’s got quadding down to a nice science

[Muggens]

Wiz AoE snare doesnt last as long as druid spot snare. with a big mana pool its beneficial to pull more than 4 as a Wiz, as long as youre quadding fullspeed(thats what i did when starting out on the beetles). at higher lvls my snare is more reliable and mana pool can barely make two quads so just stick with 4

[Kalamurv]

On live used to AOE in seb....my chanter and 1 or 2 others (usually just 2 chanters) would set up at bottom of ramp after coming down that set of stairs, past that 2 spawn....bottom of ramp in the corner (chanter stuns actually move the mob in direction chanter is facing, albeit very slightly)....pullers would pull ng, abc and disco to us then burn it all down, group make up was normally 2 chanters, cleric and 3 wizzys (or wiz / mag combo or some sort). Would make 40-50 aa / pull if I remember correctly

[Gumbo]

Why is it that druids and wizards quad kite, when up to 16 mobs can be damaged at a time by aoe spells? Why not kite 16 mobs?

Wizards and Druids don't do 16 because they would be considered Bards and would be called every name in the book for being greedy...

[Swish2]

Bards are a special type of greedy... beyond the ole "I've found 3 seafuries but can't find a 4th to start my quad kite properly"

[Topgunben]

Is the limiting of caster AoE spells to 4 a classic feature? Or was it nerfed here on p99 along with bard AoE?

[Aaeriele]

Is the limiting of caster AoE spells to 4 a classic feature? Or was it nerfed here on p99 along with bard AoE?

Quad kiting is classic. E.g. thread from 2001:

http://thedruidsgrove.org/archive/eq/t-3946.html

[coki]

quad kiting is how my RL druid friend hit lv 47 before my rogue was lv 25 and we played roughly the same on live about 2 weeks before kunark launched

[Muggens]

Just a pro tip on Invoke Lightning, the level 5 targeted AoE.

It has a smaller smash damage than most AoE, so you can actually toe-to-toe tank your quad and spam the nuke.

It's pretty handy when fighting a lot of weak mobs, like in black burrow where you will want to kill greens for fangs.

Nice to know, thanks JJ

[Aaeriele]

Just a pro tip on Invoke Lightning, the level 5 targeted AoE.

It has a smaller smash damage than most AoE, so you can actually toe-to-toe tank your quad and spam the nuke.

It's pretty handy when fighting a lot of weak mobs, like in black burrow where you will want to kill greens for fangs.

Alternatively you can just use an actual PBAoE spell like Tremor, which will hit more than 3-4 mobs at a time.

[Topgunben]

quad kiting is how my RL druid friend hit lv 47 before my rogue was lv 25 and we played roughly the same on live about 2 weeks before kunark launched

Druids are the fastest leveling non pl non twink solo class?

My druid is 11 now, can't wait for 14. When does quad kiting start?

[Foxplay]

Druids are the fastest leveling non pl non twink solo class?

My druid is 11 now, can't wait for 14. When does quad kiting start?

Fastest would be a very skilled bard swarming (even with the nerfs) provided they never had any competition in the few spots that swarming is possible 55+

Pretty sure a well played enchanter would also outpace a druid soloing from 1 to 60 non twink in a race

Key word being "well played" you can be super lazy and be afk 90% of the time and quad kite to 60 on a druid at a pace that alot of other classes couldn't keep up with solo

[skarlorn]

a nice science