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Tentarro
07-04-2018, 08:48 PM
Hey all, after quitting EQ way back when I was around 12-ish, I've decided to check out P1999 to see what I was missing out on cause I was too young.

I've also got my dad playing as well and because of this I was wondering what 2 classes would be best for leveling.

IMO I think Druid/Necro would be pretty good, necro can tank with pet and druid can keep regen on the necro, but I feel like druid wouldn't be contributing much to the damage.

Another I could think of is maybe Paladin(or SK)/Rogue, self healing/aggro keeping on the tank and DPS from the rogue?

What do you guys think?

Adron
07-05-2018, 07:33 PM
Druids are the 3rd best nukers (wizard,mage). everybody thinks druids are just weaker versions of dotters (necro,shaman), but can dish out plenty if they aren't concerned about getting summoned and gibletted. Plus you can do the track/pull as the druid. Ranger might be better for the actual pairing with a necro, as you dont need med time as much when pulling.

As for best for leveling, most people think you gotta get an enchanter as part of that duo, since charm at higher levels is nuts DPS. then you only have to pick a partner for the enchanter, and a healer is the natural pairing to keep the enchanter safe from the RNG. Any of the 3 would probably be fine...(druid for snare would be my choice)

Tethler
07-05-2018, 11:05 PM
Monk / Shaman is quite good

I leveled really fast doing a monk / monk duo with my brother. Both having mend and being able to flop on each other to pass aggro made things go super quick. Though hitting 50, things slowed waaay down since neither of us has a fungi.

Duke Gregor
07-05-2018, 11:34 PM
My wife and I play druid chanter and it works very good. Especially when you fight in a place where a druid can also charm animals and she just charms anything she wants.

Gozuk
07-06-2018, 12:02 AM
Druid/Necro would be amazing

Foxplay
07-06-2018, 02:31 AM
Enchanter + Enchanter

2 charm pets utterly destroy 50+ and 50 to 60 is the only leveling bracket that really matters

Anyone who needs heals level grinding as a enchanter isn't playing properly

kruptcy
07-06-2018, 08:24 AM
Necro + Enchanter.

Necro has a perma-pet that will hold aggro on an enemy if the chanter's charm breaks during the fight, reducing the stress of having 2 enemies charging him. Also necros can heal, feed mana if needed, FD pull. All of this on top of DPS.

Tentarro
07-06-2018, 11:04 AM
Thanks for the replies guys, my brother actually started playing as well, so now we're rolling monk/druid/rogue and it works pretty well.

kruptcy
07-06-2018, 11:07 AM
The druid is going to be a really weak link in that trio later on... shaman would make the trio much more viable. Just a suggestion!

Edit for reasons:

Shamans slow the enemies, decreasing damage taken by 75% from melee mobs, haste the monk and rogue, increasing damage done significantly, and has better heals at 60, better melee buffs, better mana regen....

Haghar
07-06-2018, 11:17 AM
Yeah, have to agree with Kruptcy. Shaman would be significantly stronger than Druid for that trio in almost every single way. Haste + Slow alone would probably double the amount of experience you can earn in any given time. The only downside would be lack of ports / harmony.

Tentarro
07-06-2018, 11:19 AM
We were going to go with shaman initially, but we picked Druid for the reasons Haghar said. As well as running a Barbarian all the way down to the commonlands would've been a hell of a trip for a shaman.

Baler
07-06-2018, 11:19 AM
For questing/leveling having a druid in the group is a must imo.
If it's not your first time and you have excess plat, it's possible to get by, buying ports but yeah.

Shaman is very gear intensive and it's late game spells are expensive. A lot of people roll a shaman having stars in their eyes, just to hit 60 and get shutdown when they don't have access to torp. Making them just as useful as a druid in reality. POTG is cheaper than torp, just saying.

@Tentarro the person who is playing druid in your group, They have guaranteed plat income by selling ports when y'all aren't grouping. Relatively easy income. I personally know people who have funded their next character just through plat earned porting people.

kruptcy
07-06-2018, 11:27 AM
I have to disagree. For leveling groups with 2 melees there is simply no contest between druid and shaman. Slow + haste will allow the group to kill 5x as many enemies before they need a med break, no matter what the shaman is wearing.

It is true that druids get ports and that is great for moving around and for making plat, but that doesn't make up for the fact that shamans just get better tools for small group content.

Dman2701
07-06-2018, 12:31 PM
Shaman will be vastly better for this group set up, with slow, haste, buffs your group will be able to kill more difficult mobs much easier and larger qty of mobs. Monk/Shaman is one of the best duo's in the game, add in a rogue for additional DPS and you guys will be flying. Slow is the single best heal in the game the amount of dmg in reduces is a multiplier throughout the game. You will find that with druid as your only healer you will suffer with more downtime since the druid won't be able to keep up with heals.

Goodboy
07-06-2018, 01:30 PM
I know I'm a couple days late, but ...... Make 2 monks and a necro. You will find that the ability to FD on your trio will save you many many headaches. Necro can snare fear while the monks beat down the mob. Necro will also be able to heal the monks with pact of shadow spell line much more efficiently than a shaman can. Unfortunately you need to dump the rogue.

just imagine for a second that you are in the depths of dalnir, guk, Kaesora, or any other dungeon and getting overwhelmed by adds.. Being able to FD and dump all Aggro is paramount. A shaman rogue or Druid would be Forced to make a run for the exit, probably dieing along the way. How much time are you going to waste on corpse runs?

As far as making a Druid for the perc of having ports, don't do it. There are literally hundreds of druids out there willing to port you just about anywhere at any given time. Most of these guys are happy to help out newbs that have nothing from the start.

From my own experience as a necromancer leveling mostly in duos and trios, having a shaman around instead of another monk only seems noticeably better at higher levels, like 45 plus.

Whether you go monk monk necro or monk shaman necro is up to you. Just make sure you make iksars. Racial regen is so important for shaman monk and necro. the experience deterrent is made up by shorter downtimes and less deaths as an iksar.

kruptcy
07-06-2018, 01:58 PM
You will find that the ability to FD on your trio will save you many many headaches. Necro can snare fear while the monks beat down the mob. Necro will also be able to heal the monks with pact of shadow spell line much more efficiently than a shaman can.

If you want a FDable trio why not go Necro Necro Necro? It seems better in every way than monk monk necro.

Baler
07-06-2018, 02:43 PM
A lot of people did not read the title of this thread.
"Best Duo for questing/leveling?"
A ton of the advice people are giving is based on level 60 end game. Such as monk/shm. An un geared monk/shm is not as strong as blue loot frenzy has lead veterans to believe.

Fresh characters, questing and leveling won't be walking through content like a twinked shm/mnk or shm/ench or even a ench/cleric. Those are meta end game builds that require gear. I have no problem with people saying hey these are something to shoot for. But the best Questing & Leveling duo's.. idk about that.

druid, necro, monk, rogue(,mage)

necro/ench is also a video duo. In the 50s you can kick the hell out of hollowing stones.

Goodboy
07-06-2018, 03:03 PM
If you want a FDable trio why not go Necro Necro Necro? It seems better in every way than monk monk necro.

Necro Necro Necro isn't bad. But monks can tank better thank necro pet and better damage output. The main reason though for not doing triple necro is simple; DOT's won't stack.

treise
07-06-2018, 03:23 PM
So I joined Project 1999 on the The Sleeper: Scars of Velious server. Since I have been playing I have only seen 1 other player. I see people posting on here all the time talking about their new characters etc. But I never see anyone. Are you all playing on the Day Break servers or the EQEmu server? Why am I never seeing anyone on /who all on The Sleeper?

Haghar
07-06-2018, 05:40 PM
For questing/leveling having a druid in the group is a must imo.
If it's not your first time and you have excess plat, it's possible to get by, buying ports but yeah.

Shaman is very gear intensive and it's late game spells are expensive. A lot of people roll a shaman having stars in their eyes, just to hit 60 and get shutdown when they don't have access to torp. Making them just as useful as a druid in reality. POTG is cheaper than torp, just saying.

@Tentarro the person who is playing druid in your group, They have guaranteed plat income by selling ports when y'all aren't grouping. Relatively easy income. I personally know people who have funded their next character just through plat earned porting people.

Even without Torpor, shamans still have slow, malo, canni, stat buffs, and a reliable pet. Druids cannot claim any of those. Comparing the two is silly.

Baler
07-06-2018, 05:50 PM
Even without Torpor, shamans still have slow, malo, canni, stat buffs, and a reliable pet. Druids cannot claim any of those. Comparing the two is silly.

DS does not work at it's fullest effect when a mob is slowed. DS a pet is easy free damage.
druids can charm stronger animal pets than shm pets.
druid has hp/AC/STR buffs

I use to hate on druids but I learned a bit.
For questing & leveling the ports on the spot are so nice. Especially if the person is still learning the map/zones.

clevergirl
07-06-2018, 05:54 PM
Paladin/Druid or Bard/Druid for survivability, rez, and ports!, easier pulls! Plenty of CC. and durability. It depends on how you like to play.

I always find wizards and enchanters and necros to be way to frail.

Dman2701
07-06-2018, 06:24 PM
Nobody is hating on druids, they are a great class but for a trio that consists of 2 melees shaman will be better. If it was more of a caster heavy trio than druids heals would be enough to sustain.
If we are talking Mid/maxing i would say Cleric/Enchanter/Monk is the best trio IMO .

Tentarro
07-06-2018, 06:47 PM
Just to update the thread but we settled on Iksar Necro/Shaman/Monk for now, at least until we switch race/class again LOL

Goodboy
07-06-2018, 07:24 PM
Just to update the thread but we settled on Iksar Necro/Shaman/Monk for now, at least until we switch race/class again LOL

I think you will be well pleased with that combo. Also you will be starting out in Kunark which means you'll have quick access to the best leveling and exp zones. stay at Kurns tower till level 18, then head to LoIO.

Tethler
07-06-2018, 09:10 PM
So I joined Project 1999 on the The Sleeper: Scars of Velious server. Since I have been playing I have only seen 1 other player. I see people posting on here all the time talking about their new characters etc. But I never see anyone. Are you all playing on the Day Break servers or the EQEmu server? Why am I never seeing anyone on /who all on The Sleeper?

Yeah, that's not a p99 server.

Haghar
07-07-2018, 11:57 AM
Just to update the thread but we settled on Iksar Necro/Shaman/Monk for now, at least until we switch race/class again LOL

Super great trio. Few tips:

- Shaman should heal with only Inner Fire up until around level 20 because it gets up to 20hp/10mana, which is the most efficient heal you get taking into account med ticks until Healing at level 19, I believe. Don't use minor healing ever, and only use light healing if someone is about to die.

- Necro is going to feel suuuuper slow until level 12 but you get some great spells then. Make sure you pick up the undead lull spell for leveling in Kurns, as well as the heal, as it will help out the Shaman a lot.

- Monk can buy a survival staff off one of the vendors right outside Cab in Field of Bone for fairly cheap and it is notably better than fists.

Nagoya
07-07-2018, 12:42 PM
Me and my friend did duo all the way from 1 to 53 on Nagoya (druid) and Osaka (necro) and it was an amazing duo man, don't underestimate the druid's input :)

DPS
- two dots, not bad, sometimes better than necro's #3+ dot depending on spell cycle
- third best nukes, sometimes second before mage depending on the level, nice burst dps when needed
- DS, Skin, STR, Regen... you can help buff the pet for better tanking/dps
- regen and heal makes necro's dps more mana efficient (less use of leech/lifetap)
- snare makes the necro's dps more mana efficient (less use of darkness)
- charm animal together with pet's necro and fear kiting

Other notable input:
- harmony is awesome
- sow and teleports is cool for a duo
- track

clevergirl
07-07-2018, 04:59 PM
Super great trio. Few tips:

- Shaman should heal with only Inner Fire up until around level 20 because it gets up to 20hp/10mana, which is the most efficient heal you get taking into account med ticks until Healing at level 19, I believe. Don't use minor healing ever, and only use light healing if someone is about to die.

- Necro is going to feel suuuuper slow until level 12 but you get some great spells then. Make sure you pick up the undead lull spell for leveling in Kurns, as well as the heal, as it will help out the Shaman a lot.

- Monk can buy a survival staff off one of the vendors right outside Cab in Field of Bone for fairly cheap and it is notably better than fists.

Yeah! Stick with it if you can. That's a really versatile combo. Especially if your cool with planning where you want to level. You'll all be super powerful and won't feel left out towards the end levels as well. Everyone will end up with a great powerhouse of a character.

kjs86z
07-09-2018, 08:24 AM
Just to update the thread but we settled on Iksar Necro/Shaman/Monk for now, at least until we switch race/class again LOL

Awesome!

That trio is insanely strong and fun.