Attainable Warrior Agro Weapon

[Lobus]

Is the Wrapped Entropy Serpent Spine still the top pre-raiding agro weapon a warrior can buy?

[bigjeff100]

I am 54 currently, and can't imagine not having my WESS... I'd say yes to your question.. The jump in prices or efforts to attain something better goes way beyond a casual player. Which is me...

[Dirkus]

You can get loot rights to Infestation for under 10k probably.

[Varren]

WESS can be dangerous because of the blind effect causing mobs to flee when outside of melee range. I used sarnak hammer and frostbringer until i got infestation. Now i use infestation and frostbringer. Aggro had always been sufficient, especially when grouping with competent players

[bigjeff100]

And yes Varren is right. WESS can be dangerous. I suggest not pulling with melee when you have it equipped.... But if you are conscious of what you're doing, then my answer is still yes. This is a wonderful pre-raiding weapon. And would be fine on many raids anyways..

[enjchanter]

If I had to redo my warrior, I'd buy a sarnak warhammer and a frostbringer and save a lot of my dkp / plat

[Jimjam]

Frostbringer/skean pretty easily attainable combo. Skean generally free, just gotta watch that /who all steamfont

[Varren]

By the way, I would consider Infestation a preraiding weapon as you dont really need a big group to kill Vilefang. The proc is humongous aggro and the damage is great too. In my experience, one proc and your white damage will hold things just fine, so long as you’ve got some haste.

[Bummey]

"white damage"

[Troxx]

Is the Wrapped Entropy Serpent Spine still the top pre-raiding agro weapon a warrior can buy?

It's the best aggro weapon in the game.

But for raiding warriors who use hammer (clicky slow) for threat it is not a game changer.

Get a WESS best threat from lv 1

[bigjeff100]

Can definitely remember a time in City of Mist when my WESS proc'd and caused the golem to go off on an adventure. He met tons of friends, introduced me to them. They were dicks.

[Phenyo]

Buy infestation loot rights.

[Lobus]

Buy infestation loot rights.
Don’t buy. Go kill vilefang now you have timer.

What do you mean by "now you have timer"?

[Rygar]

On live I used Black Blade of Tormenting + Bloodfire for aggro on my warrior... never had a problem. DoTs were big agro and pretty sure they stacked. I don't even think I got a haste item until level 56 or something.

My guess is they are pretty cheap here, Black Blade especially.

[skarlorn]

black blade of tormenting is a great rec

[MagpieRockyl]

black blade of tormenting is a great rec

Can dual wield since non lore. 200p for good aggro and 10/10 fashionquest.

[ScruffMacBuff]

WESS has a big aggro proc that's for sure, but aggro is just about keeping more aggro than the next guy and you don't need the obscene amounts of threat you get with a WESS when better ratios will also do the trick.

Edit-That being said, I do use my WESS in situations where I absolutely need to keep aggro such as queen bee in plane of sky or other raid type encounters. Even then I switch to Dagas after a single proc though.

[MagpieRockyl]

Switch Dagas after 1 proc? Will definitely be afk when u tank.

Mucho amore signore.

[ScruffMacBuff]

Lol that's just my offhand. Still have Infestation in primary.

[Slave35]

It's the best aggro weapon in the game.

But for raiding warriors who use hammer (clicky slow) for threat it is not a game changer.

Get a WESS best threat from lv 1

Blind aggro is different from hate aggro. Blinded enemies will attack the closest player character to them, much like Root. That is like saying that Root is the best aggro in the game. It's not, it's simply a different mechanic.

[Varren]

I think blind might not be same mechanic as root. I believe the mob will attack the pc with the highest aggro that is within melee range, whereas root is just closest pc.

Wess does have serious aggro though beyond this. 4 poison counters plus attack debuff. But yes, blind does change the dynamic.

[trite]

Is the Wrapped Entropy Serpent Spine still the top pre-raiding agro weapon a warrior can buy?

The serpent spine is garbage. At low levels, when you are well below 255 dex, it doesn't proc consistently enough. Weapons with good ratios are better agroe. At 50+ Infestation is just a way better weapon. Wurmslayer > Wrapped Entropy Serpent Spine.

Let me relate a story about this weapon. Once upon a time I was in a group with a warrior and a bard in Sebilis. The warrior had the serpent spine and proced early in a fight with multiple adds. The bard charmed the MOB that the warrior had proced on. The mob was then moved out of melee range. When the charm wore off 18 seconds later, it began to run like hell. All of Sebilis was attacking us shortly thereafter and we hadn't even cleared to NG yet. Moral of the story; blinding a MOB is dangerous.

[trite]

Blind aggro is different from hate aggro. Blinded enemies will attack the closest player character to them, much like Root. That is like saying that Root is the best aggro in the game. It's not, it's simply a different mechanic.

I think blind causes NPCs to run when they are out of melee range. Don't think it works like root at all.

[Troxx]

Blind aggro is different from hate aggro. Blinded enemies will attack the closest player character to them, much like Root. That is like saying that Root is the best aggro in the game. It's not, it's simply a different mechanic.

I know how blind works.

Blind will make them attack anyone in melee range over anyone not in melee range, not the *closest* player. Ask any paladin who uses this for aggro when rogues hump their leg from closer proximity.

WESS is the best aggro weapon in the game because it rolls a debuff, the blind, and multiple poison counters (each component with additive stacking aggro) all into one. WESS doesn't have a great ratio (not terrible, but definitely not good). It's the strength of the proc that makes it the strongest aggro weapon in the game.

*Strongest* does not necessarily mean most ideal.

The serpent spine is garbage. At low levels, when you are well below 255 dex, it doesn't proc consistently enough. Weapons with good ratios are better agroe. At 50+ Infestation is just a way better weapon. Wurmslayer > Wrapped Entropy Serpent Spine.

Let me relate a story about this weapon. Once upon a time I was in a group with a warrior and a bard in Sebilis. The warrior had the serpent spine and proced early in a fight with multiple adds. The bard charmed the MOB that the warrior had proced on. The mob was then moved out of melee range. When the charm wore off 18 seconds later, it began to run like hell. All of Sebilis was attacking us shortly thereafter and we hadn't even cleared to NG yet. Moral of the story; blinding a MOB is dangerous.

The potential for problems is very real. I've personally never had a problem but I've seen it cause problems for others. Most of the time I'm using Infestation + another weapon as the raw mega-threat per proc just isn't necessary.