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snyder43
05-31-2018, 12:16 AM
I have heard that enchanters can solo Cazel, so I figured I would give it a shot. I charmed Gadallion (she already had a torch), gave her VoG, and set her loose on Cazel. Tashed + slowed + feared him. His life dropped to 90% before fear wore off, after which his health went back up to 96-98% and held there even after fearing him again.

What am I not doing correctly? Should I give Gadallion a snare-procing weapon?

Thanks!

Foxplay
05-31-2018, 01:40 AM
Never needed to fear him but I also put the dots on him (asphyxiate and torment or argli)

But I didn't solo him I also had a druid friend who put a few dots on him as well

Charm + enc dots + druid dots- he died super fast

Triiz
05-31-2018, 07:56 AM
The best way I know to do this is set the gypsy vendor and the inn vendor up with WR and torch. Root them on top of each other. Charm Cazel and send him into them until he's really low HP.

One vendor can barely out DPS his regen, it would take forever. Two vendors will kill him in 2 or 3 mins tops.

Baylan295
05-31-2018, 08:21 AM
The best way I know to do this is set the gypsy vendor and the inn vendor up with WR and torch. Root them on top of each other. Charm Cazel and send him into them until he's really low HP.

One vendor can barely out DPS his regen, it would take forever. Two vendors will kill him in 2 or 3 mins tops.

This is a different strategy than what I’ve heard, but makes perfect sense. Just keep the merchants rooted and be prepared to channel a Boltrans if charm breaks.

How did you do the final bit of damage? Channeling a nuke through a summon sounds like it would be challenging at best.

snyder43
05-31-2018, 08:34 AM
The best way I know to do this is set the gypsy vendor and the inn vendor up with WR and torch. Root them on top of each other. Charm Cazel and send him into them until he's really low HP.

One vendor can barely out DPS his regen, it would take forever. Two vendors will kill him in 2 or 3 mins tops.

Good idea! Thanks for the advice =)

Baylan, since the vendors are level 45 I was planning to use my Necklace of Whispering Winds (https://wiki.project1999.com/Necklace_of_Whispering_Winds) if charm breaks.

Baylan295
05-31-2018, 08:41 AM
Good idea! Thanks for the advice =)

Baylan, since the vendors are level 45 I was planning to use my Necklace of Whispering Winds (https://wiki.project1999.com/Necklace_of_Whispering_Winds) if charm breaks.

Great item! Just make sure you blur after you land slow. (Do you know if it’s rechargeable? I have one but have not tested all the mana batteries...)

If you use the above idea with two vendors and reverse-charm killing, the necklace will not work as Cazel is level 50(?). You would need a wand of allure, or to channel Boltran’s.

snyder43
05-31-2018, 08:47 AM
Great item! Just make sure you blur after you land slow. (Do you know if it’s rechargeable? I have one but have not tested all the mana batteries...)

If you use the above idea with two vendors and reverse-charm killing, the necklace will not work as Cazel is level 50(?). You would need a wand of allure, or to channel Boltran’s.

Good point.. Time to recharge my wand!

I have read that the mana batteries that cost ~22 pp are used to recharge the necklace, but I can't confirm this.

Baylan295
05-31-2018, 08:52 AM
Good point.. Time to recharge my wand!

I have read that the mana batteries that cost ~22 pp are used to recharge the necklace, but I can't confirm this.

I need to confirm this. Insta-clickie rechargeable charm for agro would be... useful sometimes. I can’t remenber - does it need to be equipped or is it clickable from inventory?

Triiz
05-31-2018, 09:02 AM
This is a different strategy than what I’ve heard, but makes perfect sense. Just keep the merchants rooted and be prepared to channel a Boltrans if charm breaks.

How did you do the final bit of damage? Channeling a nuke through a summon sounds like it would be challenging at best.

Cazel flees at low HP. The challenge is making sure you don't break charm to early since he regens basically half a Dementia per tick.

snyder43
05-31-2018, 09:20 AM
Cazel flees at low HP.

Now, I'm excited to try this!

I was also thinking that if one of the NPCs is not rooted, I could break charm on Cazel at low HP and immediately charm the unrooted NPC, using her for extra damage while I get dementia off.

Baylan, you must equip the necklace to cast =(

Baylan295
05-31-2018, 09:29 AM
Now, I'm excited to try this!

I was also thinking that if one of the NPCs is not rooted, I could break charm on Cazel at low HP and immediately charm the unrooted NPC, using her for extra damage while I get dementia off.

Baylan, you must equip the necklace to cast =(

The alternative to soloing, if you want to avoid the hassle and potential use of clickies, is to just find pretty much any other 50+ enchanter on the server to help you. I’d be happy to help sometime if I’m available. Baylan in game.

snyder43
05-31-2018, 10:07 AM
I’d be happy to help sometime if I’m available. Baylan in game.
Thanks for the offer, Baylan! I might take you up on it, but I'd like to give it a couple tries solo first. :)

commongood
06-14-2018, 12:38 AM
Will he outregen a full suite of necro dots and spectre pet?

MagpieRockyl
06-14-2018, 01:11 AM
,,, is c"azel " sand giant code speak for" carl"


This sheds a n unsavory light on Carl's Jr savory beef

Phenyo
06-14-2018, 02:20 AM
had a necro friend solo while i made burgers

Busher
06-21-2018, 08:53 PM
I agree with Triiz. Reverse charming. I had Gadillion and Inkeep Tizzy hasted with Wonderous Rapidity and duel wielding Deadwood Staffs and Fettered right next to each other. Charmed Cazel and they got him down to 1-3 % pretty easily. But every time I broke charm and tried to nuke down the last couple percent, I just couldn't keep up with his regen. I got him down to 1% a few times but couldn't finish him. Lhig came over from EC tunnel and we charmed Gad and Tizzy and just beat him down.

Qtip
06-22-2018, 11:28 AM
I agree with Triiz. Reverse charming. I had Gadillion and Inkeep Tizzy hasted with Wonderous Rapidity and duel wielding Deadwood Staffs and Fettered right next to each other. Charmed Cazel and they got him down to 1-3 % pretty easily. But every time I broke charm and tried to nuke down the last couple percent, I just couldn't keep up with his regen. I got him down to 1% a few times but couldn't finish him. Lhig came over from EC tunnel and we charmed Gad and Tizzy and just beat him down.

Once you break charm on cazel, charm one of the innkeeps and let them finish.

Busher
06-22-2018, 12:30 PM
Didn't try that....maybe with one of them helping I coulda nuked him the last 1%

Torik
06-23-2018, 11:16 AM
I made 5 solo attempts on Cazel resulting in 1 death, 2 zone outs, and 2 where Cazel died before I broke charm. What I learned from all this is you need a bit of preparation and a bit of luck to kill Cazel. Although I have not successfully killed him yet, I think it could be done.

First, you have to reverse charm with both merchants rooted, tashed, and hasted. Second, even with both merchants rooted almost on top of each other, they will push Cazel out of the melee range of one of the two, so you will have to constantly bring Cazel back into melee range by standing behind the merchants and spamming “back.” This also results in the merchants taking far less damage. Third, don’t worry about slowing Cazel. I would slow him at first, but it always wore off and the merchants never got close to dying. And for the most important part...

You must break charm around 1-2%, target Cazel, and start casting Dementia BEFORE he regenerates his first tick. He will regen one time since Demetria is a 6s cast, but if he is at 1-2% when you start casting you will still be able to finish him off. If he regens before you start casting, you will need to recharm and get him back down to 1-2%. This part involves luck, because most times Cazel is that low he will regen within 1-2s of a charm break, so you need to be fast, too. I made a macro to speed up the targeting and casting on Cazel:

/tar Cazel
/pause 4
/cast 1

Where dementia is in my first slot.

After I had Cazel die twice before charm breaks I decided to take a break from soloing him since it can take hours for him to spawn again. But with this method I’m sure it can be done with some persistence.

In terms of breaking charm on Cazel, then charming one of the merchants there are a few problems with that. First, Cazel will be fleeing and the merchants will be rooted, so the merchant will be outside the melee range of Cazel. Second, if you are able to root Cazel next to the merchants, he is going to start summoning you, even at low HP. Third, since you’ll have agro from the other merchant, it’s gonna be hasted and beating on your new pet, possibly taking agro away from Cazel. Finally, all this assumes you have a necklace of the whispering winds, wand of allure, or puppet strings to charm the merchant instantly. Even Boltran’s 4s cast time is too slow to charm the merchant before Cazel regenerates once, when you have to target your new pet, click cast, then send it at Cazel (all of which will amount to 6s or more).

With that, I wish you luck! Let us know how it goes.

Baylan295
06-23-2018, 12:37 PM
I made 5 solo attempts on Cazel resulting in 1 death, 2 zone outs, and 2 where Cazel died before I broke charm. What I learned from all this is you need a bit of preparation and a bit of luck to kill Cazel. Although I have not successfully killed him yet, I think it could be done.

First, you have to reverse charm with both merchants rooted, tashed, and hasted. Second, even with both merchants rooted almost on top of each other, they will push Cazel out of the melee range of one of the two, so you will have to constantly bring Cazel back into melee range by standing behind the merchants and spamming “back.” This also results in the merchants taking far less damage. Third, don’t worry about slowing Cazel. I would slow him at first, but it always wore off and the merchants never got close to dying. And for the most important part...

You must break charm around 1-2%, target Cazel, and start casting Dementia BEFORE he regenerates his first tick. He will regen one time since Demetria is a 6s cast, but if he is at 1-2% when you start casting you will still be able to finish him off. If he regens before you start casting, you will need to recharm and get him back down to 1-2%. This part involves luck, because most times Cazel is that low he will regen within 1-2s of a charm break, so you need to be fast, too. I made a macro to speed up the targeting and casting on Cazel:

/tar Cazel
/pause 4
/cast 1

Where dementia is in my first slot.

After I had Cazel die twice before charm breaks I decided to take a break from soloing him since it can take hours for him to spawn again. But with this method I’m sure it can be done with some persistence.

In terms of breaking charm on Cazel, then charming one of the merchants there are a few problems with that. First, Cazel will be fleeing and the merchants will be rooted, so the merchant will be outside the melee range of Cazel. Second, if you are able to root Cazel next to the merchants, he is going to start summoning you, even at low HP. Third, since you’ll have agro from the other merchant, it’s gonna be hasted and beating on your new pet, possibly taking agro away from Cazel. Finally, all this assumes you have a necklace of the whispering winds, wand of allure, or puppet strings to charm the merchant instantly. Even Boltran’s 4s cast time is too slow to charm the merchant before Cazel regenerates once, when you have to target your new pet, click cast, then send it at Cazel (all of which will amount to 6s or more).

With that, I wish you luck! Let us know how it goes.

Have you considered dotting him to offset the regen first? Does that even work with his regen?

Torik
06-24-2018, 11:17 AM
His regen is ~350 per tick and asphyxiate only does 55 per tick, so I don’t think dotting him will help much..

A few things I forgot to mention...

Make sure you give the merchants torches so they quad attack.. Procing weapons aren’t necessary, however, if you give them serrated bone dirks, Cazel won’t run out of range of your nuke at low HP.

Also, the wiki claims that he is unstunnable, which is false. His hit box seems relatively small.. when he was within range to attack me, my stuns did not even touch him because I was too far away. But when he would summon me they would land every time.

Also, he is unmezable, and I don’t think the wiki has that info.

Triiz
06-24-2018, 12:59 PM
You sure he was actually being stunned and not just giving the message like 56+ mobs do when a stun hits them but it doesn't actually stun them?

As a giant I'm pretty sure he should be flagged both unmezzable and unstunnable, but I never tried to stun him myself.

Torik
06-24-2018, 08:20 PM
You sure he was actually being stunned and not just giving the message like 56+ mobs do when a stun hits them but it doesn't actually stun them?

As a giant I'm pretty sure he should be flagged both unmezzable and unstunnable, but I never tried to stun him myself.

You are probably right. I didn't realize that a stun could say it hit without actually stunning the mob.

Varon
06-25-2018, 02:24 PM
I've soloed him multiple times with just hasted / weaponized gypsy pet. Root and Slow him, keep Asphyxiate / Torment rolling and just chain nuke with Dementia / Discordant Mind and hope charm doesn't break. If need be could always keep a madman rooted close to mana tap.

Torik
06-27-2018, 09:05 AM
I've soloed him multiple times with just hasted / weaponized gypsy pet. Root and Slow him, keep Asphyxiate / Torment rolling and just chain nuke with Dementia / Discordant Mind and hope charm doesn't break. If need be could always keep a madman rooted close to mana tap.

With all the nukes/dots I assumed I would get agro and have root breaks often or summoned a lot. I'll give it a shot. I can always cast Blanket of Forgetfulness every 2-3 nukes.

Triiz
06-27-2018, 10:07 AM
With all the nukes/dots I assumed I would get agro and have root breaks often or summoned a lot. I'll give it a shot. I can always cast Blanket of Forgetfulness every 2-3 nukes.

If you let the pet do the first few % of damage you'll have a hard time pulling aggro off of it with nukes due to the long cast time of chanter nukes, even though they do create a lot of aggro when they land.

Even if you get summoned once or twice you'll only get summoned every 10 seconds just run out of range as soon as you get summoned.

Teppler
06-27-2018, 09:40 PM
Can a shaman pump out enough DPS to put a dent in him?

Lets say you're running Pox(111 dmg), Plague(55 dmg), Bane of Nife(214ish dmg), Scourge(24 dmg), epic, Hasted/buffed max pet and melee dmg.

That's about 400 from DOTs alone if you can keep them up vs a 350 regen. Hmm.

I might give it a go.