Sanctuary becomes Apex feeder officially

[Humiliation101]

Swathe is the so called "spineless" leader of Sanctuary.

He claims that he is "helping" Apex because Ronin griefs Sanctuary, in other words, pvps Sanctuary on a pvp server.

He also says he is in the middle of some "heavy" stuff. What heavy stuff? The 12 Ronin constantly stopping the new 80 man "zerg" guild called Apexuary? Sorry you failed back to back on AoW attempts. We all know how much Sharknado wants to get that AoW pixel so he can afford his bills.

Also, I do believe Swathe forgets that Ronin were the ones to first come to Sanctuary's aid, because Apex was griefing them.

https://youtu.be/yf_U883sC58 Just a small video of Tune showing his love towards Sanctuary.

What proceeded afterwards was Sanctuary teaming with Ronin to PvP Apex. 50v50, good times.

What followed was Swathe bending the knee begging for the safety of his guild.

Then joint raiding with Apex to attempt Avatar of War.

"SPOILER ALERT"

They failed...twice

https://pastebin.com/iizT8bCZ

Good job Swathe, way to stay classy.

Just a few quotes from Swathe about his new Alliance

"Just doing this so that Apex will leave our raids alone so we can snipe some high end targets".

"I can do HoT freely because Tune believes I will join his alliance full time when we get geared out".

Stay classy Sanctuary, see you guys in a week.

[Baugi]

Good guys Ronin tried to do some tank dispelling with Sanct tagged toons so we had to tighten up raids. Sorry if you were falsely accused.

[Ragnaros]

watching tune try to stick makes my head fuckin hurt

[Phaezed-Reality]

watching tune try to stick makes my head fuckin hurt

that backwards keyboard turn tho. You'd think after 3 years of playin with me u and vapo he would be better.

[fan D]

both guilds have exchanged members and both guilds split loot tonight

everyone winning but OP

[syztem]

that video is pretty funny actually, despite being raid buffed rogue dunking newbies. was entertaining to watch. most are like 10 minute videos with very little kills or pve deaths. plus it should remind sanctuary.

[Beastagoog]

All for some AoW pants for 0.25% power increase.

You'all need to seek help if you're exchanging large portions of your adult life for 0.25% power increase.

[Swish2]

both guilds have exchanged members

"Sorry you're not up to the Apex cut pal, we're demoting you to Sanctuary"

hehe

[Zyzzerzazz]

All for some AoW pants for 0.25% power increase.

You'all need to seek help if you're exchanging large portions of your adult life for 0.25% power increase.

What’s worse, nerds getting .25% upgrades or nerds spending the same amount of time trying to disrupt getting no loot?

[Humiliation101]

What is more fun? Pvping against 80 nerds, forcing them to spend countless hours for Alt status pixels, or spending countless hours having 12 Ronin force us to stay on a plate house while we wait for someone to pull something into camp so that 79 other folks infront of you can get "alt" pixels.

Make your choice

0-2 on AoW, maybe next week.

[Phaezed-Reality]

Sadly its very easy to create an atmosphere within a top guild that will basically suck any player in using time invested. Everyone I know that I talk to in apex just about, including core members disagree with the methods being employed against ronin(petitionquest), sanctuary(forcing swathe to cuck the knee). But that will never be enough to leave or vocally disagree because they have way to much time invested into the guild by time they realize what exactly is going on. Some never will due to the pure propaganda that comes out.

This server could be so much more. unfortunately it has been squandered.


edit: why we are not having huge 80v80 battles is beyond me. the way certain people play this game makes me feel like there is some sort of money involved. and a vested interest in a free flow of pixels, and not fun for the whole server. It's complete horseshit. And the fact that the staff is either unaware, don't care. or involved in it makes it that much worse.

double edit: I actually started on this server because I was told rogean was someone who you could trust, he ran his servers well and he had good anti cheat. And for the most part that is true, for blue at least. I don't know what the fuck red is anymore. But it sure as hell ain't what it was promised.

[Tassador]

Going to sum this post up to nobody cares except 12 deeply disturbed individuals. Continue playing EQ locked box in 2018 :)

Shit i’d Play a fresh classic blue server. Just for a fresh start. Prob would quit at lvl 12 but jeez louise can’t play box were I have 800k in dropables and 40 people playing. It makes no sense...

[Kirban]

Not sure why people are upset. Seems everyone is doing what they enjoy.

<Apex> raiding for endgame loots [x]
<Sanctuary> leveling characters, gearing up, learning new fights [x]
<Ronin> pvping in Kael, helping to stop AoW attempts [x]

As far as Sanctuary being a feeder guild, not our official stance as far as I know. So far my experiences with them have all been good. No toxicity as far as I can tell. Seems to be made up of all 3 people above: Apex, New Players, and Roninalts all with the goal to level and gear up.

Now, that being said. If some of them think that they would enjoy the grind of raiding full-time in exchange for endgame gear, I'm sure that we would welcome them to guild.

Thanks for reading!

[tnttoken]

Agree with speeddsz. At the end of the day as long as everyone is having fun, who cares. What fun would the server be if there wasn't a group trying to pvp.

[Kirban]

Agree with speeddsz. At the end of the day as long as everyone is having fun, who cares. What fun would the server be if there wasn't a group trying to pvp.

LOL, we seem to be both bored at the same time. I just replied in your other thread!


I know some people view pvp as grief but I prefer to think of it as EQ-Hardmode

Sometimes we win, sometimes we don't. If we do, then it's more satisfying since it was a challenge. If we don't, well at least it wasn't the boring grind since pve has become pretty trivial for the most part.

Still respect you Metroid, enjoyed playing by your side, and against you in pvp.

Too many people forget this is a game, and take things too seriously.

[kotton05]

i shot jfk

[Tigerstyle Wutangfist]

All for some AoW pants for 0.25% power increase.

You'all need to seek help if you're exchanging large portions of your adult life for 0.25% power increase.

0.25% power increase is pretty insubstantial for the recipient - however it appears to be common knowledge that an Apex officer was previously offering $1000.00 for AoW pants.

So really I think its "All for some AoW pants for 0.25% power increase for one player; and a fine rent payment for another player."

[tnttoken]

LOL, we seem to be both bored at the same time. I just replied in your other thread!


I know some people view pvp as grief but I prefer to think of it as EQ-Hardmode

Sometimes we win, sometimes we don't. If we do, then it's more satisfying since it was a challenge. If we don't, well at least it wasn't the boring grind since pve has become pretty trivial for the most part.

Still respect you Metroid, enjoyed playing by your side, and against you in pvp.

Too many people forget this is a game, and take things too seriously.

Yea man for sure. Now a days people think if you PvP them then you are scum of the earth... what are we all here for if we aren't going to pvp.

I like and enjoy playing with majority of people on this server, but some people dive deep into the, "If you PvP me in game then I hate you IRL" kind of thing

[Gardur]

When Ronin was helping sanctuary kill their own mobs the server pop was 180 every night.

When Franktuary formed it plummeted to 120 a night.

[Kirban]

When Ronin was helping sanctuary kill their own mobs the server pop was 180 every night.

When Franktuary formed it plummeted to 120 a night.

Didn't that other ZekEMU server come out recently? I think pop normally dips some every time there is a new season.

I think Sanctuary is doing ok killing their own mobs, but if they needed help I'd think that Apex wouldn't mind helping them.

[Tigerstyle Wutangfist]

Didn't that other ZekEMU server come out recently? I think pop normally dips some every time there is a new season.

I think Sanctuary is doing ok killing their own mobs, but if they needed help I'd think that Apex wouldn't mind helping them.

You mean by telling them if you play with or have any Ronin in your guild (or don't abide by our rules) we will grief you off the box?

Isn't that what these posts from Tune, and related posts are about?

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=293415

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=293088

Tune, the guy who shares videos of him actively griefing Sanctuary in Seb - telling them "grats <Sanctuary> don't fuck it up" and "Sanctuary is officially KOS until they abandandon Ronin"

Is that what helping is? Because it looks like that is what oppression is.

[Doctor Jeff]

When Ronin was helping sanctuary kill their own mobs the server pop was 180 every night.

When Franktuary formed it plummeted to 120 a night.

Correlation is not causation.

And we try 1 mob a week... your propaganda doesn't even make sense.

We fixed our inactivity bug, you should work on yours.

[kotton05]

Correlation is not causation.

And we try 1 mob a week... your propaganda doesn't even make sense.

We fixed our inactivity bug, you should work on yours.

what. you think stating that the pop went from 180 to 120 in a span of a week is propaganda?

its the truth. just seems like pvp rustled some peeps.

[Doctor Jeff]

what. you think stating that the pop went from 180 to 120 in a span of a week is propaganda?

its the truth. just seems like pvp rustled some peeps.

No I think saying that showing our newer players content they would otherwise not see for 2 hours a week means we merged with Apex is propaganda.

[Gardur]

Apex's stated goal is to grief Ronin off the server. Ronin are just trying to play the game. Sanctuary are taking the side of the guild trying to wipe us out.

Not hard to see why sanctuary are a target now.
You've been here long enough to know how this plays out.

[Doctor Jeff]

Apex's stated goal is to grief Ronin off the server. Ronin are just trying to play the game. Sanctuary are making the side of the guild trying to wipe us out.

Not hard to see why sanctuary are a target now.
You've been here long enough to know how this plays out.

You're misunderstanding Sanctuary's goal, and at this point it seems like an active decision..

We're just here to help new players have fun. We don't actually care about Apex or Ronin at all.

And ya I do know how this plays out. An entire guild will get banned and reform after a few days and we'll restart the cycle.


I know you gave up on the dream but I'll always be here to play in the leveling guild and help new players have fun in their quest.

[Phaezed-Reality]

well as long as u admit u are ok with leveling people that filter into apex thats fine. To many people are trying to hide the fact that sanctuary is some stand alone guild and that its going to do something other than feed to apex.

[Doctor Jeff]

well as long as u admit u are ok with leveling people that filter into apex thats fine. To many people are trying to hide the fact that sanctuary is some stand alone guild and that its going to do something other than feed to apex.

Hey man, I'm sorry you lost, but I've played with you a long time I know you'll start having fun again soon.

[Phaezed-Reality]

showing our newer players content they would otherwise not see for 2 hours a week .

Btw this is word for word, what nihilum said to new recruits. im sure that buzz phrase wasn't passed from apex to swathe to his guild.

"how do i sell this to the guild"
"just tell them they get to do content they wouldnt otherwise do"
"roger that lord tune"

and here we see it spit out on the forums, through your mouth. like i said, i been doing this a long time. i seen the same methods used over and over again, because they work.

You know what method empire employed against ragnarok in order to win? they trained us until the majority of our guild didn't want to play anymore. HAPPY HUNTING.

[Doctor Jeff]

HAPPY HUNTING.

Thanks :D

[tnttoken]

It is just funny how many times people in Apex would talk about Swathe being a "drug addict loser, non factor" when he decided not to come back to Apex when he took a hiatus. Should I send him the recordings? Or would that not change the bent knee?

[Kirban]

..
You know what method empire employed against ragnarok in order to win? they trained us until the majority of our guild didn't want to play anymore. HAPPY HUNTING.

I don't understand this.
It is my understanding most Ragnarok were ex-empire. Why would they need to win against them?

[Kirban]

I'm in Apex and Tune has tried to sell me DKP multiple times. He says it's not against the rules since im technically not RMTing for pixels and I can safely do this without GM "infetterance"

No screenshot, never happened.

[kotton05]

That’s so gross

[Baugi]

Now a days people think if you PvP them then you are scum of the earth... what are we all here for if we aren't going to pvp.

It's weird that you think this training and spy shit without any ability or intention to kill a mob even if you won is PVP. You've had plenty of opportunities for competitive PVP against Sanctuary and you've always chosen the slimy route for the cheap morale boost.

Boy who cried PVP; sorry.

[tnttoken]

It's weird that you think this training and spy shit without any ability or intention to kill a mob even if you won is PVP. You've had plenty of opportunities for competitive PVP against Sanctuary and you've always chosen the slimy route for the cheap morale boost.

Boy who cried PVP; sorry.

Lol, I helped Sanctuary more than anybody and have never trained you guys or did anything slimy. I think you are talking to the wrong person or maybe just generalizing too much

[Phaezed-Reality]

Lol, I helped Sanctuary more than anybody and have never trained you guys or did anything slimy. I think you are talking to the wrong person or maybe just generalizing too much

you arn't going to change these guys minds, anything u did for them is null and void, everything tune tells them thru swathe is gospel.

Honestly don't see how this works out in swathes favor, i mean like people are not loyal on this server until they have there pixels. ihen u cannot progress any further you leave for apex to get your pixels, hell if i was new and didnt already have bis chars i'd join sanct and do the same thing. I just don't really understand what swathes end goal is by providing apex with a feed. instead of fighting the good fight.

[Gardur]

I have always put my energy into trying to make a 3rd guild viable. That is why myself and Metroid directed Ronin to help sanctuary do raid content themselves.

We never had any conditions on our help except stay independent.

Apex required sanctuary to decline our assistance to avoid grief.

How you guys don't see the difference is beyond me. But you made your choice and now your guild is an apex client guild.

Sorry you walked into the middle of a grief war we didn't start but this only ends when either we quit or disband and neither are happening any time soon.

[Doctor Jeff]

this only ends when either we quit or disband and neither are happening any time soon.

this doesn't end dude and you know it. This has been the state of the server since I joined and from what I understand since the inception.

people just move around to fill the roles

[Platexchange]

Ok so first and foremost, Metroid has done a lot for Sanctuary. The problem with ALL of this is literally every day I would have to tell Ronin leadership that their guild mates were griefing, training, being all around assfucks to Sanctuary members. What’s even more hilarious is they knew and the response was “we got some loose cannons sorry”. Hey guess what? Tune and company did the same shit. Both sides are fucking idiots when it comes to swaying Sanctuary one way or another. It just so happens on this weeks edition of the days of our lives on zek, Apex is the nice guy. So shut the fuck up with this back and forth bull shit and take it for what it is. Apex and Ronin have no clue how to handle elf sim politics. At least my Sanctuary pals are having fun.

Shody

[kotton05]

Pretty sure ronin doesn’t care at all. It’s red.

How’s this for elf sim politics -fuck off back to blue no has time for feelings here

[Jazzy]

Pras Gardur the fucking MAN, the MYTH, the LEGEND

[Phaezed-Reality]

so both guilds treat u dirty in your mind, even tho both guilds have "loose cannons", you go with the one that sets terms and says "or else". instead of the guild that has just loose cannons and sets no terms, and has some of our bis and nice people helping you. You just boot them because tune tells you to. fine, thats fine. Just own what you did. Don't hide behind some bullshit story of being an independent guild because that just simply isnt true when you have to agree to some other guilds terms in order to play on this server. ronin had no terms. and you picked the one with terms.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Apex sanctuary pvp started happening 15 minutes after people left Kael. Just because you make some agreements doesn’t mean you have a permenant alliance.

In b4/after sad, mad, fat, dumbs

[HippoNipple]

so both guilds treat u dirty in your mind, even tho both guilds have "loose cannons", you go with the one that sets terms and says "or else". instead of the guild that has just loose cannons and sets no terms, and has some of our bis and nice people helping you. You just boot them because tune tells you to. fine, thats fine. Just own what you did. Don't hide behind some bullshit story of being an independent guild because that just simply isnt true when you have to agree to some other guilds terms in order to play on this server. ronin had no terms. and you picked the one with terms.

A crappy leveling guild on a no population emulator server is in no position to make long term strategies or make moves to promote an end game raid scene. They are puppets and will go in whatever direction they can for short term gratification. Stop begging them like bitches and dictate what they do. You know what they want, provide a better deal than Apex. Most of their members are casual blue transfers that couldn't see the content they wanted to on blue and want to see it here. This includes small group to anything that resembles raid content.

[Phaezed-Reality]

oh i see , since you guys immediately started pvping afterward. all the "or else" shit doesn't matter. roger that. now i understand completely.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Not playing year 3000 fentanylquest on a 100 pop Red server dawg. Some things aren’t any more complicated than gentleman’s agreement for a couple hours.

[Phaezed-Reality]

Not playing year 3000 fentanylquest on a 100 pop Red server dawg. Some things aren’t any more complicated than gentleman’s agreement for a couple hours.

oh hit me with the drug insult. arg. not the drugs.... that i publicly announce i do at every chance i get.... agh my ego. so bruised.

[SteppinnRazor]

Man y'all are BUTTHURT.

Sanctuary just got more pixels in an 8 day span than the entire ronin guild has ever seen.

[Baugi]

Lol, I helped Sanctuary more than anybody and have never trained you guys or did anything slimy. I think you are talking to the wrong person or maybe just generalizing too much

I was using a plural you (Ronin) since the post I was replying to was also phrased collectively. Though, I can personalize it if you'd like:

I estimate you've spent about 8 hours total at Sanctuary events?

Unfortunately, you also trained 20 of us at AoW last week. Figure 30 minutes of recovery time. That's 10 man hours.

8 hours vs. 10 hours seems like a no-brainer. Pretty efficient to burn bridges with trains.

[kotton05]

Man y'all are BUTTHURT.

Sanctuary just got more pixels in an 8 day span than the entire ronin guild has ever seen.

what aow drop?

[tnttoken]

I was using a plural you (Ronin) since the post I was replying to was also phrased collectively. Though, I can personalize it if you'd like:

I estimate you've spent about 8 hours total at Sanctuary events?

Unfortunately, you also trained 20 of us at AoW last week. Figure 30 minutes of recovery time. That's 10 man hours.

8 hours vs. 10 hours seems like a no-brainer. Pretty efficient to burn bridges with trains.

Lol @ 8 hours helping Sanctuary, delusional.

[Baugi]

Lol @ 8 hours helping Sanctuary, delusional.

3 hours in Hate
3 hours at Vindi/Kael pvp
1 hour pvp'ing outside HoT
<1 hour at VS

What am I missing? I'm not trying to short change you, but I put very little value on your diplomacy efforts for hopefully obvious reasons.

[Christina.]

wtf is feeder? nerds..

[fan D]

Metroid is currently under suspension for 7 days.

He is a proven scumbag

[Servant]

I had fun, thanks friends :)

[Kohedron]

Lmao 40 year olds quibbling over 20 year old elf pixels

[tnttoken]

3 hours in Hate
3 hours at Vindi/Kael pvp
1 hour pvp'ing outside HoT
<1 hour at VS

What am I missing? I'm not trying to short change you, but I put very little value on your diplomacy efforts for hopefully obvious reasons.

People who weren't under a rock know. Still trying to remember who you are.

[Baugi]

People who weren't under a rock know. Still trying to remember who you are.

When all else fails I guess.

I did dig and found another ~hour of you at Sev/Ixi/Prismatic if it makes you feel better.

[tnttoken]

You are forgetting things like the many hours of defending you guys against PvP from Apex.

Helped you guys kill first trak.

Helped you guys kill first Vindi.

Got your mage coth'd to HOT and taught you how to do HOT for many hours and helped multiple times.

Allowed some of your members to join in VP for chance at gear.

Donated tons of gear to andain to hand out to you guys.

Stopped Ronin from ending you guys from the beginning.

[tnttoken]

Try not to be so clueless

[MavstabYoudead]

You are forgetting things like the many hours of defending you guys against PvP from Apex.

Helped you guys kill first trak.

Helped you guys kill first Vindi.

Got your mage coth'd to HOT and taught you how to do HOT for many hours and helped multiple times.

Allowed some of your members to join in VP for chance at gear.

Donated tons of gear to andain to hand out to you guys.

Stopped Ronin from ending you guys from the beginning.

toxic suspended player looking for respect....

[Baugi]

Stopped Ronin from ending you guys from the beginning.

Try not to be so clueless

[MavstabYoudead]

just be happy ronin lets you guys log in baugi, they run dis.

[Malory Archer]

just be happy ronin lets you guys log in baugi, they run dis.

I know this is a joke but it made me realize the only person that has been griefed off the box in recent history blamed <Godking>

they are truly the #1 pvp guild on the box

toxic scum too

[Ignight]

Sanctuary = Apex = Ronin

[Tassador]

You are forgetting things like the many hours of defending you guys against PvP from Apex.

Helped you guys kill first trak.

Helped you guys kill first Vindi.

Got your mage coth'd to HOT and taught you how to do HOT for many hours and helped multiple times.

Allowed some of your members to join in VP for chance at gear.

Donated tons of gear to andain to hand out to you guys.

Stopped Ronin from ending you guys from the beginning.

First trak and vindi? Lol you mean 400th. I know what you mean first feeder guild kill, but still it’s more like 1,000th.

Lol tons of gear to andian to hand out to other people’s alts. When I played I used to take advantage of andian for gear a level or two with ds and regen. Incredibly easy to dupe and terrible player.

[Nirgon]

Goog job box king tune