Bards are broken

[koppo]

The Last patch has broken so many bard songs its ridiculous, they have rendered them almost unplayable ..from annoying buff noises to missing icons and stupidly long cooldown on brusco's .. can we have the bards songs fixed sooner rather than later .. people are refusing to group with bards because of the constant stupid buff noise every time a song is cast ..and ridiculous casting noise .. its making us bards unplayable .

[nilbog]

Be specific with bug reports.

-I have this bug, here are the details.

-I have this bug, here are the details.

Otherwise, it's difficult to wade through the complaints to find the bugs.

Thanks.

[RapidScotch]

Doesn't seem like the mana regen song is displaying in the 'Songs' window last night and or working properly. Unfortunately I do not know the name of it but its the highest a level 50 can get. :D

[Lizardtheinsane]

I was about to start a thread on this but found Koppo's thread here. I'm just going to add to this. I've been away for awhile and am trying to reacquaint myself with Forum etiquette and procedure.

Like I said, I've been away fro a few months and got on this weekend after the server went Live again. I noticed immediately that the way I did things before was no longer working properly. It was the Brusco's Boastfull Bellow song. (Lvl12.) Before it had an instant recast time and now it seems to have a 30 second recast time.... I too feel a sudden uselessness as my Bard is only lvl 13 and BBB was my lifeline.

I did a little research and found some conflicting reports: Here are the links:

Everquest-Online, Top 1 Gaming and Alkabor.com list BBB as having an INSTANT Recast Time and a 30 second FIZZLE Time.
http://www.everquest-online.com/spells/bruscos-boastful-bellow-id704.php
http://www.top1gaming.com/content-28799EQ_spells_Brusco%60s_Boastful_Bellow.html
http://lucy.alkabor.com/spell_704.html

I hit the Wayback Machine and looked on EQ Diva from May 26th, 2002 which says "Casting Time: 3 seconds / Delay: 3 seconds."
http://web.archive.org/web/20020811053554/www.eqdiva.com/songs.asp?song=13

However, Allakhazam has it "currently" listed as a 30 second RECAST Time.
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=704

Then, I found at Sony's Station site mention of a July 5th 2007 update. One of the changes listed is "The 30 second global cool down on the bard song Brusco's Boastful Bellow has been changed to a 30 second spell cool down." 2007 is far from EQ Classic....
http://eqplayers.station.sony.com/game_updates.vm?date=7/5/2007

I'm very confused by all of this. I don't remember there being a 30 second cooldown on this song in EQ Live. There I had soloed my Bard up into his 40's. Now here at this LVL and with this 30 sec cooldown on BBB, I'm trying to figure out what to do. Any thoughts / input is welcome. Thanks.

[koppo]

Nicely Sidestepped there Nilbog.
How about logging in a 30 something bard ..load up what you think would be a 4 song twist and take a look for yourself ..you will see exactly what i mean by bards are broken. They are unplayable ..casting noises ..buff noises with pretty much all psalms, and resist songs ..casting noise and buff land sounds for all regen songs .. its pathetic that you allowed this patch to go live with what is obviously an untested spell_us script

[guineapig]

I'm not going to comment on the state of the current spell file. But I will say that there was a mandatory beta test this weekend and the spell file that was being used that day is the same spell file that is being used on the live server today. So I'm not sure why no bards said anything about these unplayable bugs Friday or Saturday.

I was roaming around Kunark with my bard and didn't notice anything besides the extended charm duration which has already been posted by Lasertag.

[nilbog]

Nicely Sidestepped there Nilbog.
How about logging in a 30 something bard ..load up what you think would be a 4 song twist and take a look for yourself ..you will see exactly what i mean by bards are broken. They are unplayable ..casting noises ..buff noises with pretty much all psalms, and resist songs ..casting noise and buff land sounds for all regen songs .. its pathetic that you allowed this patch to go live with what is obviously an untested spell_us script

Cool.

Good luck getting help from me. I didn't make the change, nor have I ever played a bard.

[Teeroyoyort]

I was about to start a thread on this but found Koppo's thread here. I'm just going to add to this. I've been away for awhile and am trying to reacquaint myself with Forum etiquette and procedure.

Like I said, I've been away fro a few months and got on this weekend after the server went Live again. I noticed immediately that the way I did things before was no longer working properly. It was the Brusco's Boastfull Bellow song. (Lvl12.) Before it had an instant recast time and now it seems to have a 30 second recast time.... I too feel a sudden uselessness as my Bard is only lvl 13 and BBB was my lifeline.

I did a little research and found some conflicting reports: Here are the links:

Everquest-Online, Top 1 Gaming and Alkabor.com list BBB as having an INSTANT Recast Time and a 30 second FIZZLE Time.
http://www.everquest-online.com/spells/bruscos-boastful-bellow-id704.php
http://www.top1gaming.com/content-28799EQ_spells_Brusco%60s_Boastful_Bellow.html
http://lucy.alkabor.com/spell_704.html

I hit the Wayback Machine and looked on EQ Diva from May 26th, 2002 which says "Casting Time: 3 seconds / Delay: 3 seconds."
http://web.archive.org/web/20020811053554/www.eqdiva.com/songs.asp?song=13

However, Allakhazam has it "currently" listed as a 30 second RECAST Time.
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=704

Then, I found at Sony's Station site mention of a July 5th 2007 update. One of the changes listed is "The 30 second global cool down on the bard song Brusco's Boastful Bellow has been changed to a 30 second spell cool down." 2007 is far from EQ Classic....
http://eqplayers.station.sony.com/game_updates.vm?date=7/5/2007

I'm very confused by all of this. I don't remember there being a 30 second cooldown on this song in EQ Live. There I had soloed my Bard up into his 40's. Now here at this LVL and with this 30 sec cooldown on BBB, I'm trying to figure out what to do. Any thoughts / input is welcome. Thanks.

If it finally interrupts casting then i think the bard community won't care! Otherwise the song is useless once you get your dots.

[guineapig]

That's a good question. Does the stun component work now? If so that's huge!

[Gorgetrapper]

its pathetic that you allowed this patch to go live with what is obviously an untested spell_us script

This is the perfect way to get yourself banned from the forums. Keep snide comments like this in the rants and flames section.

However, I haven't played my bard in pretty much 6 months, he's 50, so I will try and do some extensive testing on each spell in every fashion that I can. I do not play with sound, so I won't notice such trivial things as "omg it's making a sound every time it plays".

There IS an option to disable bard songs from showing up in its entirety for the player, they just need to know to turn it off. This doesn't disable the effects of the songs, it just doesn't show the spell effects, or the sound that it creates.

[Savok]

1. BBB classic was 3 sec cast, instant recast (I distinctly remember levelling up on BBB in WC on Kodiaks).

2. Cassindra's Chorus of Clarity currently has no icon on the short duration buff window for the bard. Unsure if any others are the same. I believe mana has been moved back to a pulse system that would stack with other bard mana regen songs. Its a shame we don't get any until PoP...

3. Bard songs continue to sound as if they are being cast for the first time..over and over..every 3 seconds rather than only once for the initial casting.

[gerlon]

2. Cassindra's Chorus of Clarity currently has no icon on the short duration buff window for the bard. Unsure if any others are the same. I believe mana has been moved back to a pulse system that would stack with other bard mana regen songs. Its a shame we don't get any until PoP...

Cantata of Replenishment (level 55) is a bard mana/hp/stamina regen song that is Kunark era. The change of Chorus of Clarity to be pulse based should allow them to stack.

[Savok]

Ah yes your right. I forgot about that one.

[Felizcat]

But I will say that there was a mandatory beta test this weekend and the spell file that was being used that day is the same spell file that is being used on the live server today. So I'm not sure why no bards said anything about these unplayable bugs Friday or Saturday.


It has been reported in the Kunark section of the forums. But I am sure, given enough time it will get fixed, although the impatience displayed by others might slow things down.

As for Clarity not displaying, if I recall correctly, it never did, at least not until POP or so. Have a look at this FoH rant: http://www.fohguild.org/forums/retard-rickshaw/4868-enough-enough-ive-had-wit-mothafukin-mana-song-these-mothafukin-raids.html

[eqholmes]

Dam Nilbog; Jay and Silent Bob his ass.

Holmes 50 necro
Gretzky 50 ranger

[Seaweedpimp]

I love how nilbog just brushes retards off. Like, Lolololololol.

[Uthgaard]

its pathetic that you allowed this patch to go live with what is obviously an untested spell_us script

You can thank yourselves for that. It sat on the beta server for 6 weeks awaiting feedback.