Cultural Fletching

[Xaeophi]

Now im not 100% on this nor am i saying hey because i saw it on this site it must be true BUT.. I mean it says it on the site and has locations where you can get the items needed to make Cultural Fletching possible in our current era.

http://www.almarsguides.com/eq/Tradeskills/Fletching/velious/


(Alternative Route for Wood Elves) Mithril Champion Arrows 202 - 300

All of these combines require you to be a Wood Elf as well as a Wood Elf cultural forge or fletching kit.

Mithril Arrow Heads

Mithril Bundled Arrow Shafts

Mithril Fletchings

Small Groove Nocks

Ok so where do we get this mithril crap right?
Recipe(s):
Smithing Components: File, Small Brick of Mithril, Water Flask
In: Feir`Dal Forge


Small Brick of Mithril
WT: 5.0 Size: SMALL
Class: ALL
Race: ALL
Stackable up to 20
NPCs sell this at 6p1g8s4c
NPCs buy this at (unknown)
EQ item ID: 10483

Sources:
This item can be Vendor Purchased:
Kelethin (in Greater Faydark)
Merchant Niwiny @ -188, 136, 118, EQAtlas platform #17
Northern Felwithe
Tanalin Silverkale @ 117, -414, 17, Upstairs, Shop of All Holos
Opal Leganyn @ -80, -413, 5, inside Emerald Armor

Oh hey there you should be able to get mithril!! (Btw 3 small bricks = 1 large )

Now -> this doesnt really make cultural fletching in velious official right?
But.. It would make sense if mithril arrows were around.. I mean theres mithril Legs, arms, ... Boots and gloves now that came out in velious.. ^_~.



Mithril Fletchings
WT: 0.1 Size: SMALL
Class: NONE
Race: NONE
Stackable up to 20
NPCs sell this at (unknown)
NPCs buy this at 1s1c
EQ item ID: 24485

Fletching Components: Mithril Working Knife, Small Brick of Mithril
In: Feir`Dal Fletching Kit
Yield: 2

Well to make that knife..
Smithing Components: Dagger Blade Mold, Hilt Mold, Small Brick of Mithril, Water Flask
In: Feir`Dal Forge

Anyhoo, this is just a thought. Fletching at 202 sucks. I want my gold sink!!
I'll feel like P diddy at a strip club throwing hundos in the air making it rain whenever im allowed to trueshot disc instead of save disc for speed bump which will prob be never but accidents happen.

[Xaeophi]

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[Xaeophi]

If this ever gets brought to light I think it would be great. One for being era accurate ( to my knowledge, if someone can prove otherwise please do to put my mind at ease ) , and two it would be another thing people can spend their time with in a way that is a gold sink ( which is good for the server entirely ).

[Rygar]

Well, a quick read through that guide seems awfully suspicious as they are referencing Plane of Knowledge. I don't see references for a lot of these components prior to 2002/2003.

I spot searched the other components you are asking for and did not see anything in era.

I don't think it existed.

[Xaeophi]

Hm.. the mentions of pok if remembered correctly was every thing could be bought in pok too if ya didnt wanna travel to town.. Its.. well what pok was.. a get all and travel from all and to zone. It even had class trainers and spell vendors heh.

[Xaeophi]

Basically the item that needs to be added is the mithril bricks which i can't find any record that says it came out after velious.

[Rygar]

Hm.. the mentions of pok if remembered correctly was every thing could be bought in pok too if ya didnt wanna travel to town.. Its.. well what pok was.. a get all and travel from all and to zone. It even had class trainers and spell vendors heh.

Just find a copy of the guide or details about the combines on wayback machine prior to 12/4/2001. A guide written during PoP or later won't help.

[Xaeophi]

Hm... the link i posted was titled velious fletching ... there are sub categories if you backlink that show luclin fletching and pop fletching.
If for some reason cultural fletching all came out during luclin or pop.. why title the link i posted velious fletching?

Or.. Why is there a Feir dal sewing kit with the capabilities of using mithril bricks/pieces supposely avail on p99?
https://wiki.project1999.com/Cultural_Tradeskills:_Wood_Elf

Maybe fletching was just overlooked since it wasn't clear how much of the cultural fletching was actually released?
Im sure a lot of the bows weren't available until luclin. I'm like 80% sure the arrows were available to craft.. Maybe not i dont know for certain.

[Rygar]

I haven't given it any honest effort to nail down when the recipe or abilities were added, was hoping you could try as you are passionate about this change.

Should i be bored one day i may get around to it, but Sorn is one of the experts on tradeskills around here, you can PM him maybe for details.

As far as why there is the kit, i don't know. Could indeed be classic with no use, could be a mistake when adding items in, or maybe it should be with a purpose of some sort. Just having it on the wiki doesn't mean anything in terms of in era evidence.

Edit: oh, and it saying velious in the guide means little to me if it was written in 2003. Maybe when the skill was added ingredients were on the velious continent. Or someone thought perhaps incorrectly that it was added in then.

[Just facts]

isn't there an enchanter spell called Enchant Mithril that uses Mithril ?
http://wiki.project1999.com/Enchant_Mithril

Classic ref to that spell:
http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20010417a.html

why would they have a spell that doesn't have a regent for it ?

Are you saying there are no Mithril blocks to buy ? or is the recipe missing ?

[Just facts]

here is a wayback EQatlas ref to the merchant selling the ore: (can prolly find older if you want)

https://web.archive.org/web/20010208005242/http://eqatlas.com:80/nfelwithemap.html

[Xaeophi]

Oh wow.. I actually don't remember. I just know when i attempted to create cultural arrows i wasn't able to. Good thing to bring up though. I am leaning towards the recipe being missing though but will double check whenever i find myself in faydark again.

Do devs/staff ever shine any light on these threads or is posting in here just for player feedback?

[Rygar]

Oh wow.. I actually don't remember. I just know when i attempted to create cultural arrows i wasn't able to. Good thing to bring up though. I am leaning towards the recipe being missing though but will double check whenever i find myself in faydark again.

Do devs/staff ever shine any light on these threads or is posting in here just for player feedback?

The devs don't know everything, if they did then they wouldn't have these forums. If they do research of their own to help then just be thankful, but if you want a change it needs to be pretty solid evidence. So no, they don't always comment.

To date, I see nothing concrete to suggest cultural fletching was a thing in EQ prior to 12/4/2001. The mithril components are used in cultural blacksmithing or tailoring I think, so that does not lend any credibility.

You need to actually prove that the combine existed prior to 12/4/2001 via a time stamped post or wayback machine.

EDIT:

From the guide you linked:

Mithril Champion Arrows:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=12525

Blessed Champion Arrows:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=12481

Earliest comments are June of 2002 asking for a recipe. That is kind of close but still doubt people did not know a recipe for 6 months. Start digging for more proof if you think they existed sooner! May make good custom content some day if they ever implement.

[Rygar]

OK, I'm hoping to put this to bed, but it looks like Wood Elf Cultural Fletching was added in the May 8th, 2002 patch according to EQ traders. There is no reference prior to that.

If you can find one great, but I don't believe it existed and will now stop looking into it.

https://web.archive.org/web/20020611181435/http://www.eqtraders.com:80/secrets/recipes_woodelf_cultural.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20020606062133/http://eqtraders.com:80/

February 2002 list of fletching recipes from EQ Traders:
https://web.archive.org/web/20020203015048/http://www.eqtraders.com:80/secrets/recipes_fletching.htm

(does not list your recipes)

Link later in the page to another fletching guide here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20020611052533/http://members.bellatlantic.net:80/~ewj/fletchguide/index.htm

Makes mention of cultural fletching:
What's New, 5-17-2002
YES! I am aware of all the wonderful and neat and highly FUN changes put in for wood elf cultural fletching!

[Xaeophi]

Hm.. Maybe im over looking something... The 2002 dates is when they added the bows to cultural fletching i thought? Before that only arrows were available to craft..

[Xaeophi]

As i figured.. shows when the fletching recipes actually changed from classic/kunark/vel/luclin to pop
and that shows when you could make those crazy bows and shit.
https://www.almarsguides.com/eq/Tradeskills/Fletching/pop/

Well.. if you click on the classic tab , kunark, or velious tab you can make cultural arrows in those eras.
Anyways if i find anything else ill be sure to post it here. I expect tribute from all rangers when/if this ever gets put to work.

[Xaeophi]

OK, I'm hoping to put this to bed, but it looks like Wood Elf Cultural Fletching was added in the May 8th, 2002 patch according to EQ traders. There is no reference prior to that.

If you can find one great, but I don't believe it existed and will now stop looking into it.

https://web.archive.org/web/20020611181435/http://www.eqtraders.com:80/secrets/recipes_woodelf_cultural.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20020606062133/http://eqtraders.com:80/

February 2002 list of fletching recipes from EQ Traders:
https://web.archive.org/web/20020203015048/http://www.eqtraders.com:80/secrets/recipes_fletching.htm

(does not list your recipes)

Link later in the page to another fletching guide here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20020611052533/http://members.bellatlantic.net:80/~ewj/fletchguide/index.htm

Makes mention of cultural fletching:

Yes.. this does mention when cultural fletching was updated and you could make the non basic bows such as Blessed Faydark Thunderbolt and blessed faydark cloudburster. Whats funny is you can still forage the sylvan branch from EW and wakening lands right now But i think the key piece missing to make the faydark thunderbolt is acrylia.. which i think was in luclin.

BUT im not worried about those fancy smansy bows you can make. I'm simply requesting that the cultural arrows be an option since they should be available and craftable if you have the cultural fletching kit. There is nothing in luclin nor pop that is required to make the cultural arrows.
I will look more into it later this week but thanks for posting when the bows were added to cultural fletching. One of those bows is kinda cool

[Rygar]

It doesn't matter if components aren't needed in Luclin or PoP, if you don't find evidence of the combine existing prior to 12/4/2001 then there is nothing more to add to this thread.

[Xaeophi]

Plenty to add to to thread. You're welcome to stop posting circumstantial evidence any time though.
Anyhoo.. So .. As its well done Luclin came out...December 4, 2001
IF this the case.. Why are people talking about the Feir`Dal Fletching kit BEFORE that.
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5625

Apr 21 2001 at 10:44 PMRating: Default
Anonymous
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where is this sold?

May 08 2001 at 8:27 AMRating: Good
syldane
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I didn't know it was available at a vendor. I thought you had to make or pay someone to make one with the cultural smithing skills. It trivials at a skill of 162 smithing, per the eqtraders.com web site.

Aug 31 2001 at 3:02 AMRating: Excellent
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yes this kit can only be used by Wood Elves and it is used to make Mithril Reinforced and Mitril Studded Leather armor.


This was all BEFORE Luclin came out and people had this fletching kit and how do you make this kit ?!?! MITHRIL BITS

1 x Mithril Bits
Ingredients
EverQuest icon 1 x Morning Dew - Foraged, Dropped, Ground Spawn
EverQuest icon 2 x Small Piece of Mithril - Bought

Oh hey look.. its mithril... being sold and used for cultural fletching before luclin.. Which expansion was this? OH velious.. ommgg.. Funny thing about this fletching is that the only things you could make were the arrows (which needed nothing from luclin), until luclin and then you could start making the bow as i claimed at the very beginning.
Hope this finally gets added!

[Rygar]

Do you realize you linked the cultural SEWING kit used in cultural TAILORING? you need evidence for the FLETCHING kit and appropriate combines.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=24591

[Xaeophi]

Well fk me sideways! Smoking gun over here. Alright, cancel my last statement im an idiot :D

[Xaeophi]

Wateverz.. I guess the only proof i could find was
https://www.almarsguides.com/eq/Tradeskills/Fletching/velious/

Where you're able to see what u can make in each era.. I still think saying cultural fletching not being out during velious will never be solved since here i am linking something that says it was here and your linking.. whatever it was you were linking. Ne hoo im over it. Whatever

[Rygar]

Can a mod please move this to resolved?

[Xaeophi]

you need more productive things to do throughout your day besides forum questing.