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joppykid
04-02-2018, 09:12 AM
I have seen a few posts from searching and googled a bit but I can't find somewhere to easily see what mobs require magic weapons and which don't. Sounds like Giants and NTOV (I think?) can be hit with a Reaver.

I guess more importantly, what mobs at higher end can you not hit with a Reaver? Can you hit Velks Spiders/Dogs? Orcs? Bats and Bugs in SolB?

I have heard rumors about a Gobby Earring making it magical but it sounds like the has been found untrue. I kind of want to get a Reaver for my pally but can't decide if it's worth it or if I should just wait until I'm 55 and get a Narandi's Lance.

Thanks!

Doctor Jeff
04-02-2018, 09:19 AM
Past 30 it's basically just a pvp item

joppykid
04-02-2018, 09:20 AM
What’s stopping you using a rusty or fine steel anything to check?

I'm not online at the moment and was curious to what others experienced. That is a good way to test but I also don't want to run around Norrath testing every kind of mob. Does kind of sound like a fun adventure though.

Nagoya
04-02-2018, 09:57 AM
If I recall correctly tho you just chain miss a will-o-wisp or elemental with a mundane weapon, there's no message telling you why you're chain missing... so it could be quite hard & long to figure out all mobs requiring magic to be hit... for me, will-o-wisp and elementals are frequent enough that I am afraid of using mundane weapons and I won't touch a Reaver anytime soon.

Whom-pah
04-02-2018, 10:19 AM
If I recall correctly tho you just chain miss a will-o-wisp or elemental with a mundane weapon, there's no message telling you why you're chain missing... so it could be quite hard & long to figure out all mobs requiring magic to be hit... for me, will-o-wisp and elementals are frequent enough that I am afraid of using mundane weapons and I won't touch a Reaver anytime soon.

it will tell you, "you try to hit a x, but it is invulnerable". at least, it did for will-o-wisps that i farmed in my teens for spell money. i am not certain if that same behavior will spill over into all non-magic immune monsters.

edit: i noticed this same behavior with ghoul's in unrest.

Nagoya
04-02-2018, 11:51 AM
does it? hmm... now that you say it it feels like something i have read... but i was sure last time i fought a will-o' with a mundane weapon i didn't get any message... will try again :)

Sonderbeast
04-02-2018, 12:28 PM
Is it undead? Magical
Is it summoned? Magical

This goes for raid targets as well, although I think I remember one Kunark dragon I couldn't hit with it, I don't remember if it was Faydedar or Sev. I think you can use on Xenovorash tho, to whatever reason a giant sarnak skeleton isn't considered magic.

Venril sathir is magic, Effreeti in sky are magical, Eye of Veeshan is magic.

Dragons and giants can pretty much all be hit, and that is all of Velious end game. Great investment!

Edit: Reaver dps is so good for a warrior at 60 looking for a cheap item. Triple attack and 40/40 Is pretty nuts, great for Halls of Testing, and anything your friends might be doing in Velious. You can even hold aggro in some cases with just white damage alone.

joppykid
04-02-2018, 01:07 PM
Is it undead? Magical
Is it summoned? Magical

This goes for raid targets as well, although I think I remember one Kunark dragon I couldn't hit with it, I don't remember if it was Faydedar or Sev. I think you can use on Xenovorash tho, to whatever reason a giant sarnak skeleton isn't considered magic.

Venril sathir is magic, Effreeti in sky are magical, Eye of Veeshan is magic.

Dragons and giants can pretty much all be hit, and that is all of Velious end game. Great investment!

Edit: Reaver dps is so good for a warrior at 60 looking for a cheap item. Triple attack and 40/40 Is pretty nuts, great for Halls of Testing, and anything your friends might be doing in Velious. You can even hold aggro in some cases with just white damage alone.

Awesome!

Thanks!

*Edit*
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18657&highlight=magic+items
Looks like most skeletons should be non-magical except for Icebone. Ghouls are the magical undead (I'm guess Spectre's are too). That might be why you can hit Xeno, you would think an Epic mob would be magical though haha.

Rygar
04-02-2018, 01:16 PM
Can the avatar of fear in CT be hit by non-magic weapons? In classic you needed magic weapons, but not sure about here. Would be reasonable to assume Cazic in Fear also needs magic weapons to be hit.

Sonderbeast
04-02-2018, 01:52 PM
I think I tried it on Innie once and he was invulnerable.

Sonderbeast
04-02-2018, 02:01 PM
Awesome!

Thanks!

*Edit*
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18657&highlight=magic+items
Looks like most skeletons should be non-magical except for Icebone. Ghouls are the magical undead (I'm guess Spectre's are too). That might be why you can hit Xeno, you would think an Epic mob would be magical though haha.

My previous statement was about most mobs over level 30. although there are some outliers most newbie monsters aren't magical so that new players can use rusty/fine steel items and not ragequit.

joppykid
04-02-2018, 02:06 PM
My previous statement was about most mobs over level 30. although there are some outliers most newbie monsters aren't magical so that new players can use rusty/fine steel items and not ragequit.

I gotcha. That would make sense, considering I asked about higher level mobs in my OP. :D

Bummey
04-02-2018, 06:31 PM
does it? hmm... now that you say it it feels like something i have read... but i was sure last time i fought a will-o' with a mundane weapon i didn't get any message... will try again :)

Depends on your combat text's hitmode settings. If you have it to number only, it'll just say miss if you hit a rune or magic enemy without a magic weapon.

aaezil
04-02-2018, 08:49 PM
Past 30 it's basically just a pvp item

Wrong.

joppykid
04-02-2018, 09:57 PM
Bought one so I guess I'll see how it goes! Haha

joppykid
04-03-2018, 08:02 AM
Bought one so I guess I'll see how it goes! Haha

*Update*
This thing is great! At least when it works haha. Only used it on Giant's so far.

beargryllz
04-03-2018, 08:02 AM
It hits almost everything in Velious. There isn't a single mob in ToV that is invulnerable to Reaver

It won't hit Guardians of Zek, but does hit everything else in Kael

It may not hit Lord Bob, but I don't remember

It may not work on some TOFS mobs, but I've never actually been to that zone...

Classic and Kunark is where Reaver kinda sucks. You won't hit anything past lvl 30 or so

joppykid
04-03-2018, 08:16 AM
It hits almost everything in Velious. There isn't a single mob in ToV that is invulnerable to Reaver

It won't hit Guardians of Zek, but does hit everything else in Kael

It may not hit Lord Bob, but I don't remember

It may not work on some TOFS mobs, but I've never actually been to that zone...

Classic and Kunark is where Reaver kinda sucks. You won't hit anything past lvl 30 or so

Thank you, that's good to know. Luckily, I also have a Rod of Faith (which i'll use when tanking anyways)and Carved Dragonbone Spear if I need to swap out.

I've been playing mostly in Velious anyways, so far so good!