I invite anyone to have a regular discussion about guns, feel free to ask anything

[mickmoranis]

If you want to have a real discussion, start by watching this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=fqAGF_OOZ0A

Try to take your emotion out of it, I was pro gun control for a long time, but Ive learned that the arguments on the other side have real solid weight to them, and now I am a hard-line you shall not infringe on any of the first 10 amendments, no matter what.

Feel free to ask me a question, but try not to hyperventilate.

My view can be changed, feel free to change it!

[katrik]

I’m a 2nd amendment supporter; I own two firearms. I grew up hunting. However... I’m in favor of responsible gun control. I think that the fact the NRA prevents us from even researching the matter makes me sick. The worst thing we can do is to just do nothing, and forget it until something else happens.

[mickmoranis]

A1 - your mentally retarded neighbor cannot obtain one, unless he breaks a lot of laws and the sellers do as well.

My question to your question is, are you asking how someone who is mentally retarded, but has not seen a doctor to prove that he has not can obtain a gun I have to ask you, are you suggesting that the solution is to force someone to see a doctor before they obtain a rifle? To that I ask, how do you regulate all doctors (remember most doctors just needed to ask you "do you have trouble sleeping" to get a medical marajuana card, so this will happen with guns as well only youll simultaniously be trampling on the bill of rights if you require it, so to what end is this goal? To create legislation that targets whoever the government wants to target, and leaves the VAST majority of people to break the easily breakable law? Because that's all you'll get with that)

So again, I have to ask, why do you think that a mentally retarded person can get a gun, do you perhaps just THINK they are mentally retarded and really you and them are just totally different people that would never agree?

afa my collection it is adequate by my own business so I will not share the details of it, though I do have the same gun Indiana Jones uses in half the first movie and I also own the gun he uses in the other half of that movie.

[mickmoranis]

I’m a 2nd amendment supporter; I own two firearms. I grew up hunting. However... I’m in favor of responsible gun control. I think that the fact the NRA prevents us from even researching the matter makes me sick. The worst thing we can do is to just do nothing, and forget it until something else happens.

please explain to me what is responsible gun control? You cannot just say "im for responsible gun control"

In fact, as a user of this website, Id say that the vast majority of people would disagree on what you and they think is "responsible" as it is.

NOW

to say that the NRA prevents us from researching, is a common missconception thanks to propaganda (and a rather stupid idiotic sentence out of the mouth of president obama that was false). That was a myth, it is not true, and the CDC is not prevented from studying fire arm data, and they do all the time....

What would suprise you is that most of the studies prove that:

1. common sense gun control would not have stopped a single mass shooting in the last 30 years
2. most deaths are from gun deaths and perpitrated in historically democrat run cities
3. POC commit more than half of the gun murders in this country
4. a good guy with a gun has STOPPED as many crimes as are commited each year with guns

All of this and more can be found in any of the myrad of studies that have been done about gun violence.

It is fake propaganda that anyone is prevented from doing a study on guns.

what you are talking about is the “Dickey Amendment,” it specifically bars the CDC from advocating for gun control, not prevents them from doing studies, they just cant do a study and ALSO advocate gun control, they must be unbiased.

The CDC does not like this limitation and created a false narrative (along with many democrat politicians) that they are BARRED from studying gun violence, when really they just REFUSE to because in doing so, it gets the public hyped up and they (the liberal politicians that are involved in this bull shit bureaucracy nonsense) think it will help them pass legislation that will allow them to advocate gun control.

You know what you dont see? Liberals paying for 3rd party studies about gun violence (there is not and never was a law about that, thanks to the bill of fucking rights yall!!). But why? Becuse when you study it, you see that ALL SIGNS POINT TO NOT BANNING GUNS.

[Wonkie]

gun insurance

[Wonkie]

It is fake propaganda that anyone is prevented from doing a study on guns.

prohibited from federal funding

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dickey_Amendment

Namaste

[mickmoranis]

prohibited from federal funding

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dickey_Amendment

Namaste

you have not read that page. see my edited post, the prevention is ONLYL in the advocating of anti gun solutions AFTER doing the study, not prevention of studies, they do studies, every. fucking. month.

most gun owners know this, becuse they pay attention to the issue, while libs dont know this cus their president (a real class act!) made up a story and told them that they were prevented from studying gun violence. Its sick. Its manipulative sick fascist propaganda to disarm you.

To quote YOUR link: "none of the funds made available for injury prevention and control at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) may be used to advocate or promote gun control."

nowhere int eh text does it disalow studies into gun violence ownership or anything that has anything to do with guns.

[skarlorn]

you're making a difference here, mick. keep up the good work.

[AzzarTheGod]

I’m a 2nd amendment supporter; I own two firearms. I grew up hunting. However... I’m in favor of responsible gun control. I think that the fact the NRA prevents us from even researching the matter makes me sick. The worst thing we can do is to just do nothing, and forget it until something else happens.

i like that u have guns bb. will u skip SRS

[Wonkie]

you have not read that page. see my edited post, the prevention is ONLYL in the advocating of anti gun solutions AFTER doing the study, not prevention of studies, they do studies, every. fucking. month.

most gun owners know this, becuse they pay attention to the issue, while libs dont know this cus their president (a real class act!) made up a story and told them that they were prevented from studying gun violence. Its sick. Its manipulative sick fascist propaganda to disarm you.

To quote YOUR link: "none of the funds made available for injury prevention and control at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) may be used to advocate or promote gun control."

nowhere int eh text does it disalow studies into gun violence ownership or anything that has anything to do with guns.

timestamp baby:o

[mickmoranis]

you're making a difference here, mick. keep up the good work.

pras it buddy I may be evil to some, but to the OTHER HALF im totally chill. Amazing that half of 300 million are cool with people like me and the other half literally think im a murder cus I dont agree with a 15 year old chick with a shaved head that thinks that the school shouldnt do anything to help a student that "they knew since middle school" had problems, and instead its best to ostrasize them, then get on national TV and brag about that infront of 300 million people :rolleyes:

[katrik]

I think a nation wide gun database sounds like a good idea; if implemented correctly. Mandatory psych/background checks every few months. Those are just ideas; No other developed country in the world has this problem. We need to do something.
.

[JurisDictum]

Man that stuff about taking pot head's guns away really got Mick rattled. It's not like it would have ever happened anyway. Republicans have to make up their mind. Is the government awesomely powerful with the ability to seize all law-abiding citizen's guns? Or is it a slow moving dumb imprecise instrument that is inherently wasteful and cannot accomplish anything it tries?

I don't think gun control has any merit until several other things in society change. Until we actually care about the mentally ill in general, we aren't going to care about which one of them has a gun.

Most the negative effects of a gun owning society are here to stay from what I can tell. So no reason to limit the benefits.

I see gun control debate as a way of not talking about the economy. It's the media's way of getting us to turn on each other as the middle and lower classes rather than unite against the D.C. Elite. Russia didn't work, don't let this fake issue work either. Neither side has any intention of changing anything substantial.

[Baler]

I think a nation wide gun database sounds like a good idea

You'd be the first in line for a chip implanted in your body so they can track where you are at all times too I guess.

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Give away the 2nd and they'll take another. Slippery slope.
Guns are here, can't make them magically disappear now.
Mental health is the issue and parenting.

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Man that stuff about taking pot head's guns away really got Mick rattled.
One of the reasons they allow people to sign up for weed cards is so they can know who's doing it and track them accordingly. Anyone who signs up for a weed card is basically exposing themselves. It's not that hard to conclude.
Plus there is the added benefit that they're keeping people high and 'dumb' so they're easier to manipulate.

Why wouldn't they try to take things away from this select group...

[katrik]

You'd be the first in line for a chip implanted in your body so they can track where you are at all times too I guess.

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Give away the 2nd and they'll take another. Slippery slope.
Guns are here, can't make them magically disappear now.
Mental health is the issue and parenting.

I’m not advocating taking guns away. I love mine! I’m just providing some solutions I’ve heard. I don’t see the harm in at least trying something; I don’t really believe in the slippery slope argument. Let’s compare how many times we’ve tried to overthrow a tyrannical government versus the number of people who have died because of gun violence.

[mickmoranis]

I think a nation wide gun database sounds like a good idea; if implemented correctly. Mandatory psych/background checks every few months. Those are just ideas; No other developed country in the world has this problem. We need to do something.
.

no other nation has this problem is such a miss conception

Did you know the mass murder rate in america is just short of canada?

Did you know that 80% of the gun violence in this country that isnt from suicide (counting school shootings) happens becuse of illegal guns in gang territory (democrat) cities?

Did you know that no other nation had the bill of rights OR the freedoms that we share until, years after the bill of rights?

did you know that the bill of rights is there to protect us from, an elected goverment that has the voice of a loud minority of people that will use that directory to arrest the citizens that are capable of protecting themselves from a hostle goverment?

The reason we will never have a national database is becuse it infringes on WAY to many of the founding rights that made this country a free country in the first place.

I know you think that there is nothing to worry about, but then again we were all freaking out about a fascist demagog being elected, luckaly for us we al lknew that was bullshit rhetoric (From the same people that are arguing for gun control mind you, yeah im realy going to trust them :rolleyes:) but seriously, look at the left, just look at it, imagine it going in the same direction its been going in the last 6 years, for antoher 40, and try and tell me that its not possible for GOOD PEOPLE to turn into tyrants, to enact their "moral" superior agenda, which is "eliminate all the jews" er.. Imean "eliminate all the people who are preventing us from living in a social utopia"

its not science fiction, this is historical fact, after a few hundred years ALL SOCIETIES collapse, and are restructured, you are comfortable now, but the reason you are comfortable now is because of the Bill of Rights.

We must maintain this, or we are trying to destroy america, it is the ONE thing that seperates us, it made us, it brought freedom to the entire world as they followed suit.

If you are against guns, you are, against america. You just have been informed that you are on the "moral high ground"

But you were informed that by people like Obama, who as we've discovered in this thread outright LIED about the current law, to manipulate people into thinking his idiology was the right idiology.

[JurisDictum]

One of the reasons they allow people to sign up for weed cards is so they can know who's doing it and track them accordingly. Anyone who signs up for a weed card is basically exposing themselves. It's not that hard to conclude.
Plus there is the added benefit that they're keeping people high and 'dumb' so they're easier to manipulate.

Why wouldn't they try to take things away from this select group...

Because they don't have that kind of power. Power is contextual. You might be able to name who gets fucked on the next big trade agreement, but that doesn't mean your can stop you 16 year old daughter from having sex with a Mexican gangster necessarily.

Potheads don't get guns is a nonstarter. It's a proposal designed to distract -- not to seriously be implemented.

Edit: I also don't like all this tracking shit -- but we are all being tracked all the time these days. If they really want a good distraction from the economy start a privacy movement....but I doubt the elites want that.

[AzzarTheGod]

sick david hogg debate.


stiff pass

[Baler]

Nothing is going to stop a sicko with mental health issues from causing harm to people. In other countries with tight gun law they're running vehicles into crowds and attacking people with knifes, machetes and shit.

@JurisDictum - I agree this all could be a play to disctract the public. One of the oldest prime examples is The Olympics, designed to distract the Greek public from issues. In America we also have the superbowl. Played by players of race to distract the country from issues.

[mickmoranis]

I’m not advocating taking guns away. I love mine! I’m just providing some solutions I’ve heard. I don’t see the harm in at least trying something; I don’t really believe in the slippery slope argument. Let’s compare how many times we’ve tried to overthrow a tyrannical government versus the number of people who have died because of gun violence.

I urge you to not think of "slippery slope" when it comes to governments becoming tyrannical, it has been 100% historical FACT that ALL GOVERNMENTS become tyrannical.

Its not a 'it could happen' its a, the reason the bill of rights exists is because it ALWAYS HAPPENS 100% OF THE TIME.

Now, if you REALLY are concerned about gun deaths, and 80% of the gun deaths come from black neighborhoods (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm) (yay for CDC studies which are clearly allowed!) why are you against racial profiling and increased police presence in those areas? We could save the lives of hundreds of thousands of kids, by arresting thousands of bad kids.

But instead you want to tackle solutions that are

1. unconstitutional.
2. are designed to stop the shooting of white people (1% of shooting deaths in amercia).
3. punish law abiding citizens while leaving gun violence as prolific in neighborhoods of predominantly People of Color the way it is.

When you democrats ask, "why do black people vote republican?" its becuse the laws that your side fights for, makes lives for middle class white people better, but tramples on the rights of people of color.

[Wonkie]

But you were informed that by people like Obama, who as we've discovered in this thread outright LIED about the current law, to manipulate people into thinking his idiology was the right idiology.

it was true at the time he said it. time is linear.

[katrik]

no other nation has this problem is such a miss conception

Did you know the mass murder rate in america is just short of canada?

Did you know that 80% of the gun violence in this country that isnt from suicide (counting school shootings) happens becuse of illegal guns in gang territory (democrat) cities?

Did you know that no other nation had the bill of rights OR the freedoms that we share until, years after the bill of rights?

did you know that the bill of rights is there to protect us from, an elected goverment that has the voice of a loud minority of people that will use that directory to arrest the citizens that are capable of protecting themselves from a hostle goverment?

The reason we will never have a national database is becuse it infringes on WAY to many of the founding rights that made this country a free country in the first place.

I know you think that there is nothing to worry about, but then again we were all freaking out about a fascist demagog being elected, luckaly for us we al lknew that was bullshit rhetoric (From the same people that are arguing for gun control mind you, yeah im realy going to trust them :rolleyes:) but seriously, look at the left, just look at it, imagine it going in the same direction its been going in the last 6 years, for antoher 40, and try and tell me that its not possible for GOOD PEOPLE to turn into tyrants, to enact their "moral" superior agenda, which is "eliminate all the jews" er.. Imean "eliminate all the people who are preventing us from living in a social utopia"

its not science fiction, this is historical fact, after a few hundred years ALL SOCIETIES collapse, and are restructured, you are comfortable now, but the reason you are comfortable now is because of the Bill of Rights.

We must maintain this, or we are trying to destroy america, it is the ONE thing that seperates us, it made us, it brought freedom to the entire world as they followed suit.

If you are against guns, you are, against america. You just have been informed that you are on the "moral high ground"

But you were informed that by people like Obama, who as we've discovered in this thread outright LIED about the current law, to manipulate people into thinking his idiology was the right idiology.

I know the 2nd amendment isn’t going anywhere. I’m a supporter. I just want them (like everyone else) to not be in the hands of a mentally compromised individual who would do harm to innocents. These shootings have broken my heart. What would you guys do?

[AzzarTheGod]

What would you guys do?

personally I'd skip SRS

[mickmoranis]

it was true at the time he said it. time is linear.

It was not true, it was never true, you linked the dickey amendment, the dickey amendment didnt change, the cdc was never EVER prevented from studing gun violence. It was a lie, right out of the mouth of your silvered tongued devil you think was a "class act"

[AzzarTheGod]

It was not true, it was never true, you linked the dickey amendment, the dickey amendment didnt change, the cdc was never EVER prevented from studing gun violence. It was a lie, right out of the mouth of your silvered tongued devil you think was a "class act"

how about the ranking military supervisor of the CDC going missing at the ripe age of 35. No cell phone taken, no keys, no wallet, no dog, nada. All left in his apartment. Car in driveway. Final text to mom at 5:21 AM. Disappeared shortly after.

WaPo covering it so its not a conspiracy theory. ABC news as well. You on that?

[katrik]

personally I'd skip SRS

Haha you have a few months to stop me! 😈

[Baler]

I like how this thread jumped 6 posts after 1 refresh.

Edit: 8

[Wonkie]

It was not true, it was never true, you linked the dickey amendment, the dickey amendment didnt change, the cdc was never EVER prevented from studing gun violence. It was a lie, right out of the mouth of your silvered tongued devil you think was a "class act"

On March 21, 2018, Congressional negotiators reached a deal on an Omnibus continuing resolution. The 1.3 trillion dollar spending agreement also includes language that codified Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar interpretation of the Dickey Rider in testimony on February 18, 2018, before the US House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee.[14] While the amendment itself remains, the language in a report accompanying the Omnibus spending bill clarifies that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention can, in fact, conduct research into gun violence.[15] It was signed into legislation by U.S. President Donald J. Trump on March 23, 2018. [16]

[AzzarTheGod]

Police fighting with CDC over details. CDC told police different versions of events.

Ruh row. Damage control.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/03/14/cdc-police-diffe-says-missing-official-did-receive-promotion-police-who-said-differently-stand-state/423594002/

[AzzarTheGod]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2018/02/28/the-cdc-researcher-who-mysteriously-vanished-had-recently-been-passed-over-for-a-promotion-police-say/?utm_term=.862c024e3cc1

Police literally fighting with CDC lol.

[mickmoranis]

I know the 2nd amendment isn’t going anywhere. I’m a supporter. I just want them (like everyone else) to not be in the hands of a mentally compromised individual who would do harm to innocents. These shootings have broken my heart. What would you guys do?

I would punish citizens who own illegal firearms with the FULLEST extent of the law, slap a fuckn life sentence on if you want, i dont care.

It should be known that this practice was shut down by democrats as they thought it "unfairly targeted people of color" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Exile)

which, it did, becuse people of color own 90% of the illegal fire arms in circulation in america (another cdc study yay!)

But, the thing is, instead of saving the lives of children in these areas, the democrats wanted to make another fake argument that conservitives are racist and trying to unfairly profile people of color. Its another nail in that "why dont black people vote democrat!?!?!" coffin, they were PISSED about it, they want the illegal guns taken out of circulation. But BLM right? Maybe, if you mean they matter to "talk about" but not to actauly try to save.

I would also say that schools, law enforcment, and doctors, should be able to work together to report suspicious behavior. I think schools should have funding for therapy for trouble students. I thin schools should get more funding, so teachers can be better prepared with how to deal with troubled students.

I think that schools should solve school shootings. I do not think changing the constitution (which is what you have to do to enact any of these 'common sense laws') is a solution. Especially when the CDC has proven that NOT ONE of the shcool shootings since columbine would have been prevented from a single one of the laws that have been proposed, BESIDES straight up banning AR-15's which, is unconstitutional! (as is banning Assault rifles)

it also should be worth mentioning that in the 10 years following the ban on assault rifles (which happened becuse of the amount of drug violence in florida in the 80s) the death rate increased by 30%.. then 10 years later, it started falling... as it did all over the country, not just gun deaths, but crime.

Crime became less of a problem in teh 90s becuse of increased police funding accross the board.

Once again MORE police, MORE funding for schools, and less "BLM!" when a bad guy with a gun is shot for breaking the law and running from or at the police.

[Wonkie]

anyway that's enough of mick's bullshit for now

cya kid

[Baler]

How does mick type so much in so little time.

[AzzarTheGod]

anyway that's enough of mick's bullshit for now

cya kid

i shut down sets ask about me do your background checks

[mickmoranis]

On March 21, 2018, Congressional negotiators reached a deal on an Omnibus continuing resolution. The 1.3 trillion dollar spending agreement also includes language that codified Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar interpretation of the Dickey Rider in testimony on February 18, 2018, before the US House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee.[14] While the amendment itself remains, the language in a report accompanying the Omnibus spending bill clarifies that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention can, in fact, conduct research into gun violence.[15] It was signed into legislation by U.S. President Donald J. Trump on March 23, 2018. [16]

it says it dead to rights in the dickey amendment that they can study gun violence.

Nowhere in your quote does it say they could not study gun violence. Not anywhere in any link or quote that you have given me does it say that. Anywhere.

Now if you were a little more edcuated on how spending bills work especially 3,000 page ones, there are all kinds of stupid sentences in there that mean nothing, like "now they can study gun violence" even though, nowhere did it say they could not. Politicians put words in there like that, to confuse people like you.

Honestly its why libertarians are great, they want to get rid of ALL that bullshit that just confuses people like ya.

"While the amendment itself remains, the language in a report accompanying the Omnibus spending bill clarifies that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention can, in fact, conduct research into gun violence."

thats from your quote, what it means is it just re-iterates what I have been saying, THEY ARE ALLOWED TO, they were ALWAYS allowed to, nowhere did it say they couldnt... this is just a reminder/wording to confuse you.

notice it doesnt say "changes" it says "clarifies" which means it basically is a reminder.

[mickmoranis]

How does mick type so much in so little time.

I used to run EQ raids before ventrillo :P

[AzzarTheGod]

micks played in the game longer than paul pierce

[katrik]

I would punish citizens who own illegal firearms with the FULLEST extent of the law, slap a fuckn life sentence on if you want, i dont care.

It should be known that this practice was shut down by democrats as they thought it "unfairly targeted people of color" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Exile)

which, it did, becuse people of color own 90% of the illegal fire arms in circulation in america (another cdc study yay!)

But, the thing is, instead of saving the lives of children in these areas, the democrats wanted to make another fake argument that conservitives are racist and trying to unfairly profile people of color. Its another nail in that "why dont black people vote democrat!?!?!" coffin, they were PISSED about it, they want the illegal guns taken out of circulation. But BLM right? Maybe, if you mean they matter to "talk about" but not to actauly try to save.

I would also say that schools, law enforcment, and doctors, should be able to work together to report suspicious behavior. I think schools should have funding for therapy for trouble students. I thin schools should get more funding, so teachers can be better prepared with how to deal with troubled students.

I think that schools should solve school shootings. I do not think changing the constitution (which is what you have to do to enact any of these 'common sense laws') is a solution. Especially when the CDC has proven that NOT ONE of the shcool shootings since columbine would have been prevented from a single one of the laws that have been proposed, BESIDES straight up banning AR-15's which, is unconstitutional! (as is banning Assault rifles)

it also should be worth mentioning that in the 10 years following the ban on assault rifles (which happened becuse of the amount of drug violence in florida in the 80s) the death rate increased by 30%.. then 10 years later, it started falling... as it did all over the country, not just gun deaths, but crime.

Crime became less of a problem in teh 90s becuse of increased police funding accross the board.

Once again MORE police, MORE funding for schools, and less "BLM!" when a bad guy with a gun is shot for breaking the law and running from or at the police.

I mean, I’m fine with all of that. Especially increasing education spending. I think we need to competent change how our schools are funded.

[mickmoranis]

Guys Im gonna head to EB and buy the new far cry and play it till the sun comes up.

If you want to ask me questions, if you really want to get into the mind of someone who supports guns because of the second amendment and considers himself just short of being a 3%er

feel free and Ill get to them when I can.

I have a feeling that far cry 5 is going to be anti cult propaganda, so ill probubly chuck it in the bin shortly and be back to talk about why

Cults

Guns

and freedom

are what made america not just great, but america.

[AzzarTheGod]

Cults


are what made america not just great, but america.

pras first amendment

the bug eyes came to regret this 1. never forget waco.

[mickmoranis]

I mean, I’m fine with all of that. Especially increasing education spending. I think we need to competent change how our schools are funded.

pras it!

Unfortunately the people who will fight for the bill of rights politically, also fight to defend schools.

But the ones that want to fund the schools, also want to ostracize you or indoctrinate you into their ideology. Its there way or NO way.

Its lose lose. For now, I will die for the bill of rights, so home school it is for my kids!

[Baler]

homeschooling is actually superior.

Parents worried about kids doing drugs but not leaving them with strangers for most of the day who can't protect them. Seems logical. right?

[mickmoranis]

homeschooling is actually superior.

Parents worried about kids doing drugs but not leaving them with strangers for most of the day who can't protect them. Seems logical. right?

Im supposed to be driving to get far cry but i dont want to get off these superior forums the best place on the internet, but yea half my family is home schooled, the other half not so much, my non homeschooled fam think the homeschooled fam are "sheltered"

yet they talk about how strong of a family dinamic we have and how they wish they could spend all year with us instead of just the summers.

They also get bad grades, are entitled little shits that chew with thier mouths open and have opinions on everything that is in the news and know NOTHING of american OR world history... I held a find a country on the map contest and the public school kids failed miserably but the homeschool kids got like 90%

Also the homeschool kids are in their 20s now some of em and they are fucking KILLIN it with life, they call home, they cook dinner when they visit for the fam, theyre fuckn amazing.

The other ones just take selfies and post them online all night and giggle to themselves. It's creepy tbh

[Baler]

Im supposed to be driving to get far cry

I've read it's really well optimized. Pretty excited to start playing it myself. :)

[mickmoranis]

I've read it's really well optimized. Pretty excited to start playing it myself. :)

I just hope I can join the cult! D:

[Baler]

So how about Youtube making anti gun rules without warning users and striking or banning many active gun channels?

[AzzarTheGod]

So how about Youtube making anti gun rules without warning users and striking or banning many active gun channels?

its kinda Twitch its kinda not

Id think google would want to have kept YouTube as the mature platform but I guess advertisers call the shots.

its not youtube its google's advertising deals and adsense behind this one. too much pressure. business is business kiddo

[Baler]

its kinda Twitch its kinda not

Id think google would want to have kept YouTube as the mature platform but I guess advertisers call the shots.

its not youtube its google's advertising deals and adsense behind this one. too much pressure. business is business kiddo

Very aware of this but I was getting more at the silencing the public angle. Youtube is a first amendment platform. Unfortunately that is a fairy tale that's no longer true.

Apparently the all mighty dollar is more important than the people. in googles eyes, no it's not news but it's another nail.

I would love to see youtube dethroned.

[mickmoranis]

So how about Youtube making anti gun rules without warning users and striking or banning many active gun channels?

Pretty sure it’s as unconstitutional as banning black yourubers. They’re going to lose the class action suit they’re going to see from it.

I could be wrong about this one though.

[AzzarTheGod]

Very aware of this but I was getting more at the silencing the public angle. Youtube is a first amendment platform. Unfortunately that is a fairy tale that's no longer true.

Apparently the all mighty dollar is more important than the people. in googles eyes, no it's not news but it's another nail.

I would love to see youtube dethroned.

Gud pt I forgot Google not just YT used to espouse itself as a First Amendment platform with regard to content n searches. That changed pretty quick in the Twitter era.

Shows how infectious other corporations decisions can be on each other. I blame Twitter for being the vehicle that started speech reforms

[mickmoranis]

Lol love the sig/avatar btw azzar.

[AzzarTheGod]

thx worked hard my entire life for this

[skarlorn]

no other nation has this problem is such a miss conception

Did you know the mass murder rate in america is just short of canada?

Did you know that 80% of the gun violence in this country that isnt from suicide (counting school shootings) happens becuse of illegal guns in gang territory (democrat) cities?

Did you know that no other nation had the bill of rights OR the freedoms that we share until, years after the bill of rights?

did you know that the bill of rights is there to protect us from, an elected goverment that has the voice of a loud minority of people that will use that directory to arrest the citizens that are capable of protecting themselves from a hostle goverment?

The reason we will never have a national database is becuse it infringes on WAY to many of the founding rights that made this country a free country in the first place.

I know you think that there is nothing to worry about, but then again we were all freaking out about a fascist demagog being elected, luckaly for us we al lknew that was bullshit rhetoric (From the same people that are arguing for gun control mind you, yeah im realy going to trust them :rolleyes:) but seriously, look at the left, just look at it, imagine it going in the same direction its been going in the last 6 years, for antoher 40, and try and tell me that its not possible for GOOD PEOPLE to turn into tyrants, to enact their "moral" superior agenda, which is "eliminate all the jews" er.. Imean "eliminate all the people who are preventing us from living in a social utopia"

its not science fiction, this is historical fact, after a few hundred years ALL SOCIETIES collapse, and are restructured, you are comfortable now, but the reason you are comfortable now is because of the Bill of Rights.

We must maintain this, or we are trying to destroy america, it is the ONE thing that seperates us, it made us, it brought freedom to the entire world as they followed suit.

If you are against guns, you are, against america. You just have been informed that you are on the "moral high ground"

But you were informed that by people like Obama, who as we've discovered in this thread outright LIED about the current law, to manipulate people into thinking his idiology was the right idiology.

wow mick this was exceptionally lucid for you. I appreciate your insight and presentation of facts. I have gone from someone who advocated removal of AR-15s to someone who is now ready to pledge allegiance to the God Emperor and brin G fire and FURY to my enemy the Chinaman who dwells at the heart of every degenerate libcuck surrounding me in this City in the West

[eadric]

zero chance katrik actually owns a firearm of any kind.

[eadric]

Also, this thread and all of you special people reminded me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC03hmS1Brk

[Baler]

I am just a regular everyday normal guy...
Nothing special about me Mother F***a

If you rarely get laid put your hands up
If you're not well paid put your hands up
If you got a pet cat put your hands up
And if you got a bad back put your hands up

[AzzarTheGod]

I am just a regular everyday normal guy...
Nothing special about me Mother F***a

If you rarely get laid put your hands up
If you're not well paid put your hands up
If you got a pet cat put your hands up
And if you got a bad back put your hands up

classic bars

[mickmoranis]

wow mick this was exceptionally lucid for you. I appreciate your insight and presentation of facts. I have gone from someone who advocated removal of AR-15s to someone who is now ready to pledge allegiance to the God Emperor and brin G fire and FURY to my enemy the Chinaman who dwells at the heart of every degenerate libcuck surrounding me in this City in the West

I forgot did you see wild wild country yet? you should check it out its super funny to see what seems like such a good idea turn into like worst case scenario super quickly lol

[mickmoranis]

[I am] ready to pledge allegiance to the God Emperor and brin G fire and FURY to my enemy the Chinaman who dwells at the heart of every degenerate libcuck surrounding me in this City in the West

this post is also going to become my sig if I can figure out how to do that cus its poetry

[Baler]

1s and 0s are more dangerous than a firearm.

[mickmoranis]

this is going to be very interesting wow, so al sharptons brother was involved in a shooting just hours after he was at an anti gun march.

Kenneth Glasgow(Sharptons brother) was driving a car where the passenger shot someone.

Now here's the rub: Dothan Police Chief Steve Parrish said that Glasgow and Townes allegedly searched for Jennings, who they believe had stolen Townes’ car. When they found her, Townes allegedly shot Jennings as she drove, hitting her in the head. She died later.

“Instead of him notifying law enforcement, he took matter in his own hands and jumped in Mr. Glasgow’s vehicle to find Breunia Jennings,” said Parrish, according to a report in the Dothan Eagle.

So.. what do we do here? We have someone who says we have to get rid of guns, who goes out on his own instead of calling the police, to solve a crime, and ends up being a good guy with a gun shooting a bad guy with a gun...

But, wait, is there more? Why is he being charged? Is there perhaps stricter gun laws in the state he is in? Idk, but it is a strange situation! Anti gun, uses gun for the thing second amendment supporters say guns are for... confusing!

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/03/al-sharptons-brother-charged-in-shooting-murder-one-day-after-participating-in-anti-gun-march/

[katrik]

zero chance katrik actually owns a firearm of any kind.

Lol you want proof? I was raised in the South homie.

[Wonkie]

it says it dead to rights in the dickey amendment that they can study gun violence.

Nowhere in your quote does it say they could not study gun violence. Not anywhere in any link or quote that you have given me does it say that. Anywhere.

Now if you were a little more edcuated on how spending bills work especially 3,000 page ones, there are all kinds of stupid sentences in there that mean nothing, like "now they can study gun violence" even though, nowhere did it say they could not. Politicians put words in there like that, to confuse people like you.

Honestly its why libertarians are great, they want to get rid of ALL that bullshit that just confuses people like ya.

"While the amendment itself remains, the language in a report accompanying the Omnibus spending bill clarifies that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention can, in fact, conduct research into gun violence."

thats from your quote, what it means is it just re-iterates what I have been saying, THEY ARE ALLOWED TO, they were ALWAYS allowed to, nowhere did it say they couldnt... this is just a reminder/wording to confuse you.

notice it doesnt say "changes" it says "clarifies" which means it basically is a reminder.

if it was already the case, why bother clarifying? you're dumb.

Honestly its why libertarians are great, they want to get rid of ALL that bullshit that just confuses people like ya.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_YgD-nL3xc

[mickmoranis]

if it was already the case, why bother clarifying? you're dumb.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_YgD-nL3xc

i told you why bother clarifying in the post you quoted its to manipulate you. but could you explain to me how im supposed to make the leap in logic that you actually think clarification means changing something? your troll is as deep as innothule swamp, meaning not very. work on it.

[Wonkie]

okay you're saying the trump appointed HHS secretary validated obama's statement to manipulate me

what?

[mickmoranis]

No you’re saying that I don’t know what the fuck that means.

[AzzarTheGod]

okay you're saying the trump appointed HHS secretary validated obama's statement to manipulate me

what?

An HHS hottie (u might know of her existence if u follow HHS lobbyists n speakers n such) followed me on IG then waited 2-3 days to watch which pictures I like on my history of activity

And subsequently unfollowed me.

I didn't follow her back because I knew I'd slip up and like a bunch of soft porn and lewd images. I mean there's 24 hours in a day and IG is basically built to serve soft porn up.

Had this happen several times. Once with a popular curve model who went back and actually unliked all my pictures I guess thinking she has to erase her like of me for some moral reason....

Tldr; I got clout but these girls treat this app like its fucking Tinder or more accurately like its a OKcupid speed dating app...

Huge disconnect. What do??

[Wonkie]

No you’re saying that I don’t know what the fuck that means.

honestly yes. i don't believe you have the cognitive capacity to reconcile your beliefs with material reality.

it brings me no pleasure to say this

[AzzarTheGod]

Like if we aren't even on speaking terms why am I being objectified and treated like I need to adhere to "dating criteria" in order to maintain any follows from women other than porn stars and thots.

Seems to be a huge double standard. Or some kind of gender related disconnect.

This might be over you guys heads.

You can go back to taking turns sucking off David hogg if u can't handle it.

[mickmoranis]

Go on

[Patriam1066]

19 y/o sexless males don't need guns. I want a virgin test for firearm ownership. If you've never used your penis on a consenting female you're probably an angry maladjusted fuck who shouldnt own a firearm

More importantly, I don't believe pokesan is Irish. Every Irish American I've ever met is bottom tier IQ and I have a quiet admiration for poke's terse trolling

God bless

[Patriam1066]

wow mick this was exceptionally lucid for you. I appreciate your insight and presentation of facts. I have gone from someone who advocated removal of AR-15s to someone who is now ready to pledge allegiance to the God Emperor and brin G fire and FURY to my enemy the Chinaman who dwells at the heart of every degenerate libcuck surrounding me in this City in the West

While I agree with this, I reflexively disagree with Mick's delusional opposition to common sense

But I'm with you on the yellow horde. The mongols took Iran. They won't take America

[Mblake81]

What would you guys do?

Hold the line as best as you can, resolve to weather the storm. Many times in my own life I wish I had the foresight to not jump ship because I thought I had it bad where I was only to find I had got myself into something much worse. If only I had the discipline to not move a muscle, to be strong.

https://i.imgur.com/KBIUYY9.jpg

Columbine High School massacre. (the one that set the precedent for current day hysteria)

Although their precise motives remain unclear, the personal journals of the perpetrators document that they wished their actions to rival the Oklahoma City bombing and other deadly incidents in the United States in the 1990s. The attack has been referred to by USA Today as a "suicidal attack [that was] planned as a grand—if badly implemented—terrorist bombing." The massacre sparked debate over gun control laws, high school cliques, subcultures, and bullying. It resulted in an increased emphasis on school security with zero tolerance policies, and a moral panic over goth culture, gun culture, social outcasts (though the perpetrators were not outcasts), the use of pharmaceutical anti-depressants by teenagers, teenage Internet use, and violence in video games.

Oklahoma City Bombing

The chief conspirators, Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols, met in 1988 at Fort Benning during basic training for the U.S. Army. Michael Fortier, McVeigh's accomplice, was his Army roommate. The three shared interests in survivalism. They expressed anger at the federal government's handling of the 1992 Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) standoff with Randy Weaver at Ruby Ridge as well as the Waco siege—a 1993 51-day standoff between the FBI and Branch Davidian members which began with a botched ATF attempt to execute a search warrant leading to a fire fight (it is unknown whether ATF agents or Branch Davidians fired the first shot) and ended with the burning and shooting deaths of David Koresh and 75 others. In March 1993, McVeigh visited the Waco site during the standoff, and then again after its conclusion. McVeigh later decided to bomb a federal building as a response to the raids.

Branch Davidians and Waco

The doctrinal beliefs of the Branch Davidians differ on teachings such as the Holy Spirit and his nature, and the feast days and their requirements. Both groups have disputed the relevance of the other's spiritual authority based on the proceedings following Victor Houteff's death. From its inception in 1930, the Davidians/Shepherd's Rod group believed themselves to be living in a time when Biblical prophecies of a final divine judgment were coming to pass as a prelude to Christ's Second Coming.

Houteff founded the Davidians based on his prophecy of an imminent apocalypse involving the Second Coming of Jesus Christ and the defeat of the evil armies of "Babylon". As the original Davidian group gained members, its leadership moved the church to a hilltop several miles east of Waco, Texas, which they named Mount Carmel, after a mountain in Israel mentioned in Joshua 19:26 in the Bible's Old Testament. A few years later, they moved again to a much larger site east of the city. In 1959, the widow of Victor Houteff, Florence Houteff, announced that the expected Armageddon was about to take place, and members were told to gather at the center to await this event. Many built houses, others stayed in tents, trucks, or buses, and most sold their possessions

The Seventh-day Adventist Church, the main church in the Adventist tradition, rejected Victor Houteff's teachings and revoked his membership in 1930. Houteff went on to found the Davidians (a splinter group, otherwise known as the Shepherd's Rod). Branch Davidians are considered a splinter group from that dissenting group (the Davidians/Shephard's Rod) and came out from a schism among the Davidians/Shepherd's Rod initiated by Benjamin Roden.

One modern incarnation of the Branch Davidians exists under the leadership of Charles Pace, a follower of Ben and Lois Roden, who was a member of the Branch Davidians since the mid-1970s. The Branch, The Lord Our Righteousness is a legally recognized denomination with 12 members. Pace claims that Koresh twisted the Bible’s teachings by fathering more than a dozen children with members’ wives. Pace feels the Lord "has anointed me and appointed me to be the leader" but he claims he is "not a prophet" but "a teacher of righteousness". Like the Branch Davidians under Koresh, this incarnation is waiting for the end of times.

Randy Weaver and Ruby Ridge

Aryan Nations, a white supremacist group, at its compound in Hayden Lake, Idaho, in the late 1980s. Weaver was not a member of the Aryan Nations, but he shared the group’s white supremacist and antigovernment views. At one of the meetings, Weaver befriended an informant of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF), who purchased two illegal sawed-off shotguns from Weaver in October 1989.

When Weaver refused to become an informant for the ATF, federal agents pursued a weapons charge against him. He was arrested and released with a trial set for February 19, 1991. The trial was then moved to February 20, but a probation officer sent a letter to Weaver, incorrectly stating that the new trial date was March 20. When Weaver failed to appear for trial, the court issued a bench warrant for his arrest. Weaver was subsequently indicted by a federal grand jury for failing to appear at trial, and the U.S. Marshal Service was tasked with arresting him. Marshals assessed that Weaver and his family were likely to resist violently if confronted directly, so plans for a stealth operation were drawn up.

On August 21, 1992, the situation turned violent after Weaver’s dog discovered a surveillance team of six heavily armed U.S. marshals inside the Ruby Ridge property. One of them shot and killed the dog, which led to an exchange of fire with Sammy Weaver, who was shot in the back and killed. Harris also opened fire, killing Degan. After the shootings, the federal marshals requested assistance from the FBI, which dispatched its Hostage Rescue Team to Ruby Ridge. On August 22, Lon Horiuchi, an FBI sniper hiding about 200 yards (183 metres) from the cabin at Ruby Ridge, opened fire when he believed Weaver and Harris were preparing to shoot at an FBI helicopter. The first shot hit Randy Weaver in the arm. Horiuchi fired a second shot, meant for Harris, as the men ran back into the cabin. The bullet struck Vicki Weaver in the face while she held her infant daughter behind the front door of the cabin and also injured Harris. Vicki Weaver died soon after, but her body remained in the cabin for 11 days.

Aryan Nations

Aryan Nations, also called Church of Jesus Christ Christian, prominent Christian Identity-based group founded in the United States in the 1970s. In the 1970s and ’80s the Aryan Nations developed a strong network comprising neo-Nazi, skinhead, Ku Klux Klan (KKK), white supremacist, and militia groups, many of which congregated and networked at the Aryan Nations compound in Hayden Lake, Idaho.

The Aryan Nations was rooted in the Christian Identity movement in the United States, which grew in popularity in the mid-20th century. Christian Identity adherents believed that white Aryans were the “chosen people,” that Africans were subhuman, that Jews were descendants of Ba'al, (A) Devil (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal), and that the world was moving toward a race war. In 1970 American Christian religious leader and white supremacist Richard Girnt Butler, newly ordained by the American Institute of Theology (AIT), which reflected Christian Identity beliefs, took over a large Christian Identity congregation in Lancaster, California, after its leader, Wesley Swift, died. In 1973 Butler moved the congregation to a compound in Hayden Lake, Idaho, and created the Church of Jesus Christ Christian. In 1978 Butler founded the church’s political arm, the Aryan Nations.

...

Within the long, dark shadow of American ethnic and cultural conflicts, fraternal and patriotic organizations, with their own idealized mythological identities combined with the entrenched and accepted nativist sentiment of that era, became embroiled in an American struggle for identity.

https://i.imgur.com/lHZMm3A.jpg

Counter Culture

The hippie movement has found historical precedents as far back as the Mazdakist movement in Persia (hello Patriam), whose leader the Persian reformer Mazdak, advocated communal living, the sharing with of resources, vegetarianism and free love. A 1967 article in Time Magazine asserted that the hippie movement has a historical precedent in the counterculture of the Ancient Greeks, espoused by philosophers like Diogenes of Sinope and the Cynics. The article also claimed that the hippies were influenced by the ideals of Jesus Christ, Hillel the Elder, Buddha, St. Francis of Assisi, Henry David Thoreau, Gandhi, and others.

Parkland survivor Emma Gonzalez, the bisexual president of Stoneman Douglas High School’s Gay-Straight Alliance, has spoken out about the way her sexuality fuels her activism.

Together with fellow students like David Hogg and Cameron Kasky, the 18-year-old has prompted a tidal wave of public sentiment in favour of better gun regulation following the shooting in Florida. She has been at the forefront of the #NeverAgain movement since her impassioned speech at a rally last month in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, when she emotively repeated the phrase “We call BS” about NRA-funded politicians, gun advocates and those who don’t believe the Parkland teenagers know enough to speak up.

The Flags of the Human Race or the Flags of the Races, which was a rainbow flag that originated and used at college campuses during the 1960s as part of demonstrations for world peace and the Hippie Movement, was also a speculated inspiration. The flag had horizontal stripes coloured red, black, brown, yellow, and white from top to bottom. Baker supposedly adapted the design and used the colours of the rainbow, each having specific meaning. Take note that the Hippie Movement of the 1960s was largely influenced by pioneering gay activist Allen Ginsberg.

Identity, Who are we?

After the British writer G. K. Chesterton visited the United States for the first time, he remarked that America was “a nation with the soul of a church.”

Mr. Chesterton wasn’t referring to the nation’s religiosity but to its formation around a set of core political beliefs enshrined in founding “sacred texts,” like the Declaration of Independence. He noted that the United States, unlike European countries, did not rely on ethnic kinship, cultural character or a “national type” for a shared identity.

The profoundness of the American experiment, he argued, was that it aspired to create “a home out of vagabonds and a nation out of exiles” united by voluntary assent to commonly held political beliefs.

But recent survey data provides troubling evidence that a shared sense of national identity is unraveling, with two mutually exclusive narratives emerging along party lines. At the heart of this divide are opposing reactions to changing demographics and culture. The shock waves from these transformations — harnessed effectively by Donald Trump’s campaign — are reorienting the political parties from the more familiar liberal-versus-conservative alignment to new poles of cultural pluralism and monism.

(Note: Blaming the Trump campaign is indirect, for sure many of the issues that have been boiling under the surface have showed their heads during this Administration.. as they were designed to do. What is readily seen is that we do not want to deal with them and frankly we don't know how to. We see people pulling this way and that but none with a deep grasp, more surface turbulence related. Perhaps we lack the maturity to handle a culture such as ours, maybe we need time to grow into it. Having a Nation of people that can't handle the culture while also being on numerous legal and illegal drugs probably is not the best choice but I say "Fuck It! Damn those torpedoes!" and if we are going to be tested why not throw the hardest and most dynamic test at us. Maintain some kind of faith we will pull through strong and come flying out the other side like a bat outta hell.)

[mickmoranis]

19 y/o sexless males don't need guns. I want a virgin test for firearm ownership. If you've never used your penis on a consenting female you're probably an angry maladjusted fuck who shouldnt own a firearm

More importantly, I don't believe pokesan is Irish. Every Irish American I've ever met is bottom tier IQ and I have a quiet admiration for poke's terse trolling

God bless

Only a stupid democrat or immigrant would be so naive to realize parents buy their kids guns in America so that won’t help either. But it WILL give you guys the false send of self worth for “doing something” Democrat fascists that want to destroy the country YOU fled to, y’all are looking for.

I know you think you’re right I know you and every Democrat think you’re right but we’re not going to sacrifice the bill of rights for legislation that will not stop mass shootings so YOU can feel like you did something.

You’re a traitor and part of the rebel alliance.

Once again for every unconstitutional idea, there is a constitutional solution that would be just as helpful if not more helpful than these petty unconstitutional laws that you’re talking about that is so easily manipulated and won’t change a thing.

All we say over and over again is there are constitutional solutions why do you only think unconstitutional solutions will work? Because you’ve been manipulated.

[mickmoranis]

If liberals wanted to get rid of NRA funding, and we’re actually interested in maintains a free America, they wouldn’t be fighting to take one institution that they don’t agree withs ability to be involved in political donations, they’d be trying to get rid of campaign financing all together. But Hillary even rolled back Obama era limits on funding so she could get more money.

Constitutional: limit campaign funding
Unconstitutional: ban only certain organizations you disagree with from campaign funding

Political parties are cults and there trying to take over America and change it however they see fit and once they get the guns they’ll be able to do whatever they want

[mickmoranis]

Patron sorry bout the big eyes thing trying to stay lucid.

Another HUGE reason why that 19 year old stuff is a bad idea is because this:

1. One school shooter in 30 years bought their guns themselves without help from an adult
2. Very rarely do we roll back gun legislation, only once and it was thanks to wording the NRA put in the short sighted assault weapons ban.
3. So when the 19+ non virgin law (I know that but you were joking but hey here’s some
More humor for ya) turns out to not work, the left will just move onto the NEXT attack on the second amendment.
4. The strategy is to keep reducing the citizens rights to own guns until they have no right to own one at all. This is a game hard been played for decades. This isn’t a secret most lefty politicians have come out and said this, Diane Dinestine for one.

The right for a citizen to bare arms shall not be infringed. The wording is there to prevent incremental dissolving of the second amendement. It was an actual discussion they had while penning it, how to prevent society from instituting unconstitutional law this very way.

Hope this helps!

Remember for every idea to limit the second amendment that won’t do much, there is a constitutional policy that either won’t do as much or will do more. So to people who want to “do something” why do nothing while you blame others for doing nothing when there is plenty you can do that the left ignores instead to go straight for the guns?

[mickmoranis]

https://i.imgur.com/pnIchAm.jpg

Meanwhile the left wants to limit free speech attack people it disgrees with, with physical violence, rally’s the youth to fight for dissolving our bill of rights, blames problems on a race/sex, and calls everyone a nazi to justify their moral superiority...

And we don’t even have an economic downturn.... imagine how badly we’d need tonprot car ourselves from that group during an actual economic crash!

Try and convince me we don’t need security when our twonleading political parties have become cults?!

[Irulan]

I don't feel particularly bad about guns either way. I think the fact that they are so prolific and deadly does make a difference in modern times, however.

It's not like a village of 100 with 100 guns. Over 100 mile areas. We have millions of people with millions of guns all tightly packed in small areas.

Ya. Bad stuff will happen. It's just inevitable. It will happen with more frequency. And it will happen less spread out over time.

[mickmoranis]

derp

hey bro, i know you are governed by your emotions but if you could just try to maintain your composure for a few seconds while you try to have an actual discussion that'd be great, or you know, go ahead and shave your head and talk about your vigina and clap like the rest of the SJW's that follow 14 year old spokespersons :rolleyes:

[mickmoranis]

I don't feel particularly bad about guns either way. I think the fact that they are so prolific and deadly does make a difference in modern times, however.

It's not like a village of 100 with 100 guns. Over 100 mile areas. We have millions of people with millions of guns all tightly packed in small areas.

Ya. Bad stuff will happen. It's just inevitable. It will happen with more frequency. And it will happen less spread out over time.

this is the same argument to ban Muslims from flying into the country though, literally same logic.

The difference between the right and the left is, there is a bill of rights that prevents us from doing one thing for very good reasons, that doesnt prevent us from doing the other thing.

So when a lib is like, "why do this but not that!" again, it ahs to be said over and over, one is constitutionally protected and the other isnt.

I wish libs would just understand this basic reality.

To libs I say: LOOK at what you can do to things/people that aren't constitutionally protected, you can literally ban them from entering the country... so START CHANGING things that are not constitutionally protected instead of barking the SAME rhetoric for 50 years, without changing anything while shouting that hopes and prayers does nothing.

[Wonkie]

hey bro, i know you are governed by your emotions but if you could just try to maintain your composure for a few seconds while you try to have an actual discussion that'd be great, or you know, go ahead and shave your head and talk about your vigina and clap like the rest of the SJW's that follow 14 year old spokespersons :rolleyes:

adult man yelling about teenagers

how bald are you?

[mickmoranis]

adult man yelling about teenagers

how bald are you?

adult male following teenagers cus hes never been able to get anything done in his own lifetime

how incel are you?

[tsuchang]

Why blame the NRA? They didn't kill anyone. I'm a member and have never killed anyone. I don't know anyone who is an NRA member that has killed anyone outside of war. Where is the evidence that the NRA killed or abetted anyone?
I have heard that the NRA issues and sells guns. Do they really?

[mickmoranis]

Charles Manson never actually killed anyone either

so are you saying anyone who supports the second amendment is tentamount to charles manson? Supporting the second amendment is conspiracy to commit murder?

This has been discussed, if you are trying to pretend that the other side is so immoral that they are literally conspiring to commit murder for simply supporting something you personally dont believe in, is the same as hitler saying the problem with germanies economy is because of all the jews.

This is the exact emotion > logic, politics that the left uses, that supports the argument that we NEED guns because even GOOD people can become tyrants.

[mickmoranis]

https://i.imgur.com/70cVFHP.jpg

Whatever, who cares. I give up. Yall are a bunch of little wieners. Go ahead and keep telling me that you hope and pray we can solve the gun crisis by posting pathetic unedcuated propaganda written by some skinny hippy political white privlaged artist who is afraid that their lives are even a SLIVER like a minorities lives, that you REFUSE to try to help because you think profiling is raycist.

Its abundantly clear: Gun control activists are white supremacists that don't want their safe little neighborhoods turning into black ghettos

[mickmoranis]

Alright i cant let it go, lulz here is why this argument you have is the same argument you and your dumb ass friends have had for FIFTY YEARS

becuse the situation you linked in that cartoon IS NOT POSSIBLE without breaking the law.

You see, there are already protections set up to prevent people who have mental problems from buying guns, but gues what, SOMEONE SCREWED UP...

so its not that we dont have those laws, its that people fuck up...

Did you know the parkland shooter was on a no buy list? No you dont know that cus you dont know anything about the current law. But the screwed up and he bought a gun legally.

DID YOU KNOW that the night club shooter was on a terror watch list and should not have been able to buy the guns he bought, but his father was an FBI informant and the same protections that that person had THROUGH THE FBI are how his son, was able to buy their guns.. another SCREW UP...

Your solution to screw ups is to say you want laws, that already exist.

Im sorry you are so missinformed that you THINK that anyone can walk into a gun store and walk out with a gun... but it is not the case.

SORRY BUT it is historically proven that the SMALL NUMBER of mass shootings white people are afraid of, would not be reduced by creating laws that ALREADY EXIST

Its just shocking how you people just argue argue argue and know less than zero about what you're arguing about. Not once has a common sense gun control parrot actually said anything that is TRUE in this thread. Nothing, its all CNN talkin points.

[mickmoranis]

I was simply pointing out that many people consider Charles Manson a serial killer when he never actual killed anyone.

I admit I don't read many/any of your longer winded posts, and in general I agree that we should all have guns to prevent subjugation by the government and to deter home invasions... But there is a line somewhere. I am not OK with my neighbor being able to stock pile enough munitions for a small army. If you don't believe the police and military are here to protect us then attack the political system that gives us our leaders, not take up a stance that we should import and arm every American with an automatic weapon.

Playing devils advocate to a point where it no longer passes the smell test is a dangerous and slippery slop to chaos and anarchy

read the posts and youll see that the line is already there, but you just dont know it, becuse liberals dont actually investigate the truth behind what they are outraged about, they just get mad becuse the news tells them to be mad.

now, you say you are not ok with your neighbor stockpiling weapons... ok then, GET THE HELL OUT OF AMERICA, becuse in america it is not UP to you, or any group of YOU's.. its NOT

This isnt the untied states of Spyder, its the united states of america, and the united states of america ONLY exists if the constitution and the bill of rights remains unchanged.

You can make amendments sure, but you cannot get rid of the first 10. Sorry, wont happen. I dont care what YOURE not ok with.. IM not ok with abortion, but you dont see me telling people they cant have them, becuse its none of my buisness.

IM not ok with a lot of things, but if any of them are protected under the constituti9on, then TOUGH TITTIES...

Do you understand that THESE ARE INAIALBE RIGHTS and you cannot change them... however there are a myrad of constitutional things you CAN do, but you are too hung up on what YOU PERSONALLY want to do, and you ignore what OTHERS personally want to do.... you can feel safe, without takinga way the rights of americans.

Or you can move to another country

We are not going to turn the entire north west hemesphere the united states of canada, just becuse you read people magazine and have heard on CNN that guns are free and there are no background checks and they all shoot rapped fire.

it is your neighbors CONSTITUTIONAL right to have what THEY think is necissary to protect themselves, it is not up to you in any way shape or form.

[mickmoranis]

im sorry you're so mad you cant even articulate yourself lulz but dont worry trump will upset you with something that totally distracts you next week and youll forget all about the shaking rage you feel about how guns are killing your precious white children.

[mickmoranis]

first one me, second one you

me mad & armed

you mad & sad & FAT (also you are bald, really not just in the pic, thats very sad)

[mickmoranis]

Lulz so mad tranny porn inc wow he musta been at the march, tears I’m his eye listening to his new crush Gonzales dropping truth bombs that bullying and ostrisizing other kids is the right way to handle problems at a school!

[Irulan]

last two pages of this thread has me crying like a liberal streaming tears, thx lulz

ps mick, I don't necessarily disagree w/u about the whole constitution thing

but LOLZ

[mickmoranis]

Im pro gun, but can you explain to me how common sense gun control would not have stopped this last school shooting? The kid was reported to have mental issues, the FBI and Police were aware that he had guns, and was threatening people, annnnnd 17 dead kids.

because, thanks to common sense gun control that already exists he was meant to be on a no buy list, but the bureaucracy screwed up and he slipped through the cracks.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fbi-got-tip-parkland-shooter-nikolas-cruz-january-didn-t-n848681

The law should have been able to intervene and stop him but accidents happen.

So, the gun control advocates, tell the people that there is no common sense gun control, so the people go out and demand that we create common sense laws!

However, we've been doing that, for decades... And 9/10 times the laws dont change the shootings.. so the go out and tell you we need more laws.

Now, people who fight for the protection of the bill of rights, say, hey, you're just creating a inefficient law, then another, and another, and youre not fixing any of the broken ones you're just adding new ones, and after a period of time, BAM they all pile up and we realize they just skirted around the SA and infringed on our rights to own guns.

this isnt a slippery slope, its the open strategy on the left to ban guns. Incremental change. Very rarely does a bad law, go away. In the history of gun laws, only 1 has gone away, and that was because the NRA added the provision that the assault weapons ban would be reviewed in 10 years and if it had no obvious effect on gun crime it would not be renewed (thank you NRA)

So in summation, the common sense law already works, you have a probem with how the government operates, not that there is no law that should prevent that kid from getting a gun. Because there is. It was just a blunder on our broken, inefficient, government.

Does that clear it up or make you think maybe that you might be fed misinformation at the very least? The missinformation (if you see in earlier pages of this thread) is big, so its not an attack, its easy to be missinformed about this, when literaly President Obama goes out on national TV and straight up LIES about the law, and still hasnt admitted it.

[Wonkie]

thread is good now

[skarlorn]

good work by lulz

[mickmoranis]

https://i.imgur.com/vSofSjl.jpg

if david hogg or that gozalez girl had it their way, they would ostrasize that bald kid in the middle and it'd be ok, cus look at him, who wants that kid around them!?!

sickening

i am glad lulz iz around and definitely think all he needs is therapy, not ostriziation.

[mickmoranis]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-DkF98uBm8

truth (also why you're going to be really really suprised and upset in 2020 ;) )

[Patriam1066]

19 year old male virgin having a gun isn't common sense

Hope this helps

[Patriam1066]

I've explained it ad nauseam. I'll see you on the battlefield (I'm a better shot than you with gun or bow or ice comet)

the die is cast

[mickmoranis]

I've explained it ad nauseam.

nope you havent explained anything ever, you also just "SAY THINGS" then log off so your opinions are lacking actual critial thought and are full of holes and make no sense because you know that they are meaningless and any actual back and forth conversation would reveal how little you know about the subject despite your confidence levels being at full tilt.

You may as well be saying "people shouldn't have assault weapons"

Unfortunately you dont understand the country you fled to or how the constitution works.

I know this wont help!

Also lets see you go toe to toe with xaanka cus he just dunked hard on ya...

[Wonkie]

threads bad again

[mickmoranis]

All I know is that the first person we need to confiscate property from (before 19 year old virgins) is persians that live in Texas (I use the same logic that he's using now!)

[Wonkie]

DEBATE ME COWARD

[mickmoranis]

itd be nice to see a thread made up of just poke and pat, so we could see what its like when two people who shout random nonsense that has nothing to do with anything at brick walls without even intending the other party to reply to them, yet they would keep replying for 19 pages.

[Wonkie]

it's nice to see who's the dom in the mick x xaanka dynamic

i knew it all along

[AzzarTheGod]

threads bad again

I'm just in time

[Wonkie]

this idea that i can't explain to you is common sense

i think pat is unwilling to engage with you because you are obnoxious

[Irulan]

Honestly, I'm ok with Mickmoranis having a gun, but not Xaanka.

[Wonkie]

i'm not the one coming here presenting my ideas as such common sense that you'd have to be a complete idiot not to instantly understand and agree with them.

that's obnoxious.

i also find you obnoxious

[skarlorn]

wonkie has a post on page 1 of bda to phinigel so he's a historic poster, back the F off zanka

[Wonkie]

don't think you've ever made a memorable post, dont recognize ur av or care

i told u in PMs already

how u gonna treat me like this bby

[AzzarTheGod]

deny him like christ xaanks dont give in

[skarlorn]

i shitposted the politics thread with double and quad and penta posts until that boring blue server thread lost its #1 spot, snore don't care

you know i appreciate your pentacle shit posting sacred geometry but no one can deny the historical importance of bda to phinigel thread as the first serious contender for the 1k break. before that we were all rooting for AON and COF thread by lord Diggles which has obviously faield. No doubt, had swish not had so many posts deleted, bda to phinny still would have had a strong chance at winnign #1 thread of all time

don't discount the importance of the shitposters who laid the stones of that foundational work.

[AzzarTheGod]

i also find you obnoxious

can i be obnoxious 2

[AzzarTheGod]

had swish not had so many posts deleted,


what's dead may never die.

[Patriam1066]

https://i.imgur.com/8r0dsjj_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[skarlorn]

https://i.imgur.com/PkVPm2o.jpg

ready to bring paeace to the GOAT FUCKers

[NegaStoat]

Less than 1% of gun related crimes in the USA are perpetrated by gun owners that legally obtained their weapons through current laws involving waiting periods and background checks. The laws we have in place work. We have a system that works. If gun control advocates simply want the current laws that we have in place to be enforced with more strength, go for it. I'll support that no problem, including nuking out no background checks or waiting periods from person to person sales or gun shows.

As for the Florida shooting and the 'kid that fell between the cracks' of the system, I'm still waiting for the Prosecution attorney(s) to submit evidence that the specific long gun purchased by Cruz was the weapon responsible for all 17 reported victims. Until that happens, I'm still dubious that the nation's been told the absolute truth of what went down. A school safety drill held in the morning on the day of an actual shooting where all installed video cameras weren't working, conflicting evidence from witnesses about the number of shooters as well as when the shooting actually happened, on top of Cruz simply walking off campus while talking to a female student to later hit up a McDonnalds like nothing happened and was THEN arrested while he was so stoned on drugs that he couldn't even walk is all kinds of fishy. That's on top of the David Hogg "I was there right when the shooting happened" nonsense offered from a 20+ year old young man who graduated from high school in California in 2015 that actually shot his footage of the shooting in the school in a closet during the drill, and later told CBS when the real shooting happened he hopped on his bike to ride over 3 miles with his camera to somehow enter the police cordon to interview students.

Leave Florida and Sandy Hook completely out of this discussion as points of reference for gun control. I'd prefer to stick to factual events and statistics.

[skarlorn]

https://i.imgur.com/Ya3o39N.jpg

fidel castro used guns to save cuba

keep GUns real

[Patriam1066]

Less than 1% of gun related crimes in the USA are perpetrated by gun owners that legally obtained their weapons through current laws involving waiting periods and background checks. The laws we have in place work. We have a system that works. If gun control advocates simply want the current laws that we have in place to be enforced with more strength, go for it. I'll support that no problem, including nuking out no background checks or waiting periods from person to person sales or gun shows.

As for the Florida shooting and the 'kid that fell between the cracks' of the system, I'm still waiting for the Prosecution attorney(s) to submit evidence that the specific long gun purchased by Cruz was the weapon responsible for all 17 reported victims. Until that happens, I'm still dubious that the nation's been told the absolute truth of what went down. A school safety drill held in the morning on the day of an actual shooting where all installed video cameras weren't working, conflicting evidence from witnesses about the number of shooters as well as when the shooting actually happened, on top of Cruz simply walking off campus while talking to a female student to later hit up a McDonnalds like nothing happened and was THEN arrested while he was so stoned on drugs that he couldn't even walk is all kinds of fishy. That's on top of the David Hogg "I was there right when the shooting happened" nonsense offered from a 20+ year old young man who graduated from high school in California in 2015 that actually shot his footage of the shooting in the school in a closet during the drill, and later told CBS when the real shooting happened he hopped on his bike to ride over 3 miles with his camera to somehow enter the police cordon to interview students.

Leave Florida and Sandy Hook completely out of this discussion as points of reference for gun control. I'd prefer to stick to factual events and statistics.

Yes dude in all of these cases, a fatherless male with no pussy killing the classmates who deservingly bullied him (the obvious truth) is actually a cover for a nefarious false flag plot by the evil doers scheming to take your guns away in a reprehensible effort to keep children safe

Make America great again praise Fox News IQs of 70 hail Kentucky the real Americans

[Patriam1066]

https://i.imgur.com/PkVPm2o.jpg

ready to bring paeace to the GOAT FUCKers

I'm becoming catholic if they call a crusade

[skarlorn]

https://i.imgur.com/XL7Q7xy.png

hail kentucky

[Patriam1066]

https://i.imgur.com/XL7Q7xy.png

hail kentucky

I must admit I like their bourbon. I think foxnews fucked up america. It was a better country before our media became cheerleaders

[skarlorn]

bourbon is blesseD it's my favorite alcohol

[mickmoranis]

anyone playing farcry5?

Lots of libs be like, "its great to play a game where I can fight against a gun crazed religuios militia!"

and im like

uh you mean by using your second amendments rights and the ample AR-15's that you MOW them all down like you just pulled the fire alarm at your highschool?

lol guess good guy with a gun is ok for now? Confusing!

[mickmoranis]

Are they coming to take our guns? This Democratic candidate for sheriff says, YES! https://youtu.be/Jc4d-iV6dMQ

[AzzarTheGod]

anyone playing farcry5?

Lots of libs be like, "its great to play a game where I can fight against a gun crazed religuios militia!"

and im like

uh you mean by using your second amendments rights and the ample AR-15's that you MOW them all down like you just pulled the fire alarm at your highschool?

lol guess good guy with a gun is ok for now? Confusing!

i dont like the cult leaders resemblance to david koresh or any of the parallels tbh

i wont be purchasing it due to the narrative of Far Cry 5 and its hamfisted themes and overall disrespect to an actual real 9/11 event with 75 lives lost in a needless siege by some asshole dyke feminist (ren0)

[Domo]

why should the majority of a country suffer only because some gun fans are afraid they wont make it past a gun test?

[AzzarTheGod]

its also revisionist in many ways.

i wouldnt mind if the game was just a game. but Generation Z and the David buttuboy Hogg's get their news from video games.

no dice mick i wont judge u. but i def dont think u should be promoting the purchasing of the game.

[mickmoranis]

why should the majority of a country suffer only because some gun fans are afraid they wont make it past a gun test?

Would you like to know the answer to your question?

Here's why:

1. you are missinformed, VERY missinformed.
2. the people that die by guns that spark the debate for gun control, make up about 100-200 deaths a year. Out of a population of 330,000,000 people. So most people arent suffering because a lack of those.
3. we are not afraid we'll make it past a gun test, we know that once there is a gun test, it wont be enough, and they will continue to pile on more and more legislation, until they BAN guns, becuse no matter what ANYONE says they think the goal of gun control is, the people in power's goal is to ban guns.
4. If you really, REALLY careda bout lives, then we would increase funding to schools in blue states or states where the overwhelming majority are actually afraid of this boogy man, we'd create more programs to support people that need support using the free market, and we'd stop spending every day for 50 years trying to pass the same laws that we've proven are not going to change anything and are not constitutional anyway so they arent allowed to pass. One key thing that libtards and europeans dont understand is, the reason we have low taxes and a free market is becuse ANYONE can spend money to start a program that people EXPECT the goverment to manage. Thats just the difference, the problem is libs think like europeans and europeans historically dont have a lot of drive and they like the gov to take care of them, so they can have fewer work days and shorter work hours. Less responsiblity.. that's not how it works here though. We have a system that allows for EVERYTHING libs want, the libs just refuse to take advantage of it (usually becuse the people that tend to be lib, tend to not function well in the free market cus they are lazy, like europeans)

5. Lastly, to reword your question: why should 150,000,000 million gun owning Americans, suffer by taking a test and paying fines and fee's and registering and most importantly SACRIFICING OUR BILL OF RIGHTS so that YOU feel comfortable?

6. If you think guns are dangerous, so we should ban them, then there is no difference in me saying you know what, fuck it lets get rid of religion too becuse I think christians are nuts and it causes violence and crime! Also Muslims are terrorists so lets get rid of all of them too!

you cant get rid of one of the first 10 amendments, without getting rid of any others.

The bill of rights will remain unchanged, sorry you don't like it, but again you are welcome for the freedom we introduced you too... go ahead and accept all coward american expats please, we dont want em or care.

[mickmoranis]

its also revisionist in many ways.

i wouldnt mind if the game was just a game. but Generation Z and the David buttuboy Hogg's get their news from video games.

no dice mick i wont judge u. but i def dont think u should be promoting the purchasing of the game.

I will support a game that uses AR-15s and a make shift militia (you put it together whiel you play) to stop an idiological group of nut jobs that force their idiolgoy on you.

I just wish they modeled the art style after the DNC instead of koresh.. cus god bless koresh and the only cult trying to push their idiology and get rid of the bill of rights are democrats.

but, straight away the game is not as offensive as I thought, and hey it also very clearly states: if you are afraid of an alt right cult taking over the country guess what? AR-15 is the only solution!

So its a very mixed message, which should be no surprise since it was written by canadians.

[AzzarTheGod]

I will support a game that uses AR-15s and a make shift militia (you put it together whiel you play) to stop an idiological group of nut jobs that force their idiolgoy on you.

I just wish they modeled the art style after the DNC instead of koresh.. cus god bless koresh and the only cult trying to push their idiology and get rid of the bill of rights are democrats.

but, straight away the game is not as offensive as I thought, and hey it also very clearly states: if you are afraid of an alt right cult taking over the country guess what? AR-15 is the only solution!

So its a very mixed message, which should be no surprise since it was written by canadians.

did they pay the koresh estate to use his likeness? then fuck em dood

[mickmoranis]

sure i hear ya, most libs think they shot first and they burnt the building down to commit suicide. You watch waco? very good. Libs prolly REEEEEEE when they watch it though.

AT LEAST the game thats made to kill alt right people who take over, says the onlyl way to do it is with the second amendment :) So its got that going for it at least.

Still made by Canadians that think the ATF send 3 police officers to arrest a cult leader instead of 3,000 gun blazing ATF agents.

But its funny to me that libs think this game is pro their agenda when its VERY CLEARLY pro second amendment.

[AzzarTheGod]

i hear ya man its a good game. i just cant support it politically

[AzzarTheGod]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2018/03/28/heres-who-actually-attended-the-march-for-our-lives-no-it-wasnt-mostly-young-people/

LOL washington post:
only 10% of march for our lives attendees are teenagers
the median age of the rest is 49
aka
literally only boomers are dumb enough to buy this shit

dunks

[Wonkie]

guns are used more times per year to prevent a violent crime than commit one. by a huge margin, it's not even close.

the overwhelming majority of gun homicides in america are committed by 15-21 year old black males and the victims are almost always the same demographic according to the fbi. like almost all of it. if you remove this one demographic, not all black people just 15-21 year old black males the US's homicide rate is below most countries that dont have guns.

why should the majority of a country suffer through infringement of a constitutional right to possess the means to protect themselves because a tiny demographic of the greater population commit such a disproportionate amount of violent crime?

they shouldn't.

Citation needed.

[mickmoranis]

Citation needed.

you know, xaanka I wouldnt even give him a citation... this guy reads the sentence, "none of the funds made available for injury prevention and control at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) may be used to advocate or promote gun control."

..and thinks that means, "previously the CDC was not allowed to do studies about gun violence"

[Wonkie]

you know, xaanka I wouldnt even give him a citation... this guy reads the sentence, "none of the funds made available for injury prevention and control at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) may be used to advocate or promote gun control."

..and thinks that means, "previously the CDC was not allowed to do studies about gun violence"

research can be interpreted as promotion, as congress did in the case(s) of the CDC

I'm very sorry for your parents.

[Wonkie]

https://i.imgur.com/ZyM8VhT.jpg

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.-2015/tables/table-43

whites are VERY rapey apparently!

[Wonkie]

here's a good example of who's being included as white:
https://www.dps.texas.gov/Texas10MostWanted/MostWanted/fugitives

White and White(hispanic) are clearly different categories in this picture

i'll remember to feel less robbed the next time a white guy draws down on me, because per capita

:rolleyes:

[skarlorn]

raping is an important part of historey

[Domo]

I could care less since I dont live in the USA.

But this whole "2nd amendment" thing seems to turn into a cult or something like this.
I understand it that the constitution is very important for many americans. And its sure a piece of history. Especially for a nation with a "young" history.

But if I understand it right, your foundingfathers even put into the constiution that its ok to change/update the constiution if its good for the people?!

I mean, only because something worked 200 years ago, dosent mean it works so good today anymore.

I also think that people care more about who get shot than of how many.

How often per year does a child get shoot in the USA because the parents are to dumb to secure their guns at home?
How often per year does a child get shoot by a random bullet in the USA?

If the answer is higher than 1, then its already to high.

I value the life of a child higher then the fear of some wannabe patriots who are afraid that there wont be any guns in 500 years anymore.

But again, I dont live in the states and my opinion dosent matter to this topic. Also many things which works here sure dont work in the states (and vice versa).

[Wonkie]

raping is an important part of historey

you do have a kinda rapey vibe sometimes. you do rub n tugs n bang in bangkok iirc?

[skarlorn]

tell me more about my rapey vibes

[Wonkie]

are you trying to say per capita is less representative of your real-world liklehood of being a victim of a crime by _demographic_?



yes. that is how numbers work.

[Wonkie]

anyway, relinking pengin for the 7th time

https://i.imgur.com/IbQVKTA.jpg

[maskedmelon]

itd be nice to see a thread made up of just poke and pat, so we could see what its like when two people who shout random nonsense that has nothing to do with anything at brick walls without even intending the other party to reply to them, yet they would keep replying for 19 pages.

as keenly talented as you are at frustrating me, it's grammatical depravities liek these that keep re-winning my heart (o^^o)

[Wonkie]

is your gimmick being wrong?

more white crimes = more likely to be victim of white crimes

math, not meth, friendo

[katrik]

anyway, relinking pengin for the 7th time

https://i.imgur.com/IbQVKTA.jpg

The price we pay indeed.

[Wonkie]

which number bigger?

White: 11,809
Black: 4,907

Go with Christ

[skarlorn]

Nice try white people rule colored people also rule but need affirmative action

[Patriam1066]

I'd certainly feel more safe in Africa than Europe

We're all the same (vomit)

[AzzarTheGod]

raping is an important part of historey

ayyy lmao

[maskedmelon]

TIL i am more likely to be raped by a white man than a black man. This is because there are many more white men who generally prefer to rape whites around me than black men who generally prefer to rape blacks, despite ththeir fact that black men on average are more inclined to rape people than white men in the US of A.

Similarly, i am more likely to die in an motor vehicle accident than a mass shooting. This is because there are many many more motor vehicles around me who prefer small group homicide over mass homicide than guns who prefer mass homicide over small group homicide.


Can someone please help me develop consistent reasoning for issues surrounding these topics?

[mickmoranis]

research can be interpreted as promotion, as congress did in the case(s) of the CDC

citation needed

[mickmoranis]

I could care less since I dont live in the USA.

But this whole "2nd amendment" thing seems to turn into a cult or something like this.
I understand it that the constitution is very important for many americans. And its sure a piece of history. Especially for a nation with a "young" history.

But if I understand it right, your foundingfathers even put into the constiution that its ok to change/update the constiution if its good for the people?!

I mean, only because something worked 200 years ago, dosent mean it works so good today anymore.

I also think that people care more about who get shot than of how many.

How often per year does a child get shoot in the USA because the parents are to dumb to secure their guns at home?
How often per year does a child get shoot by a random bullet in the USA?

If the answer is higher than 1, then its already to high.

I value the life of a child higher then the fear of some wannabe patriots who are afraid that there wont be any guns in 500 years anymore.

But again, I dont live in the states and my opinion dosent matter to this topic. Also many things which works here sure dont work in the states (and vice versa).

the bill of rights isnt a cult you surrender monkey.

you really, honestly dont value the life of a child. What you value are internet memes and trends. You are hoked into the internet meme trend the media uses to get people to get hyped up and mad and clicking on articles and links that support their biases so the media companies can get money.

If you valued the life of a child you wouldnt senslessly argue about the second amendment, you'd listen to the arguments that show that common sense gun control isnt our problem, our problem is the way we police, the way we educate our children and the way we handle cultural differences between our MUCH MORE DIVERSE population ithan any country in Europe.

If libs wanted to save lives in school, they'd be fighting for school funding, not to take away guns.

You see, in america we have ALL WALKS of life, we have many different idiologies all mixed together. It was the whole point of our country, to allow EVERYONE to have their own belifes.

This is why socialism doesnt work in america, becuse socialism works against that very concept. I know you think you're diverse becuse its 2018 but trust me, you are not diverse.

Most liberal places arent actually, Ive lived in california (LA SF) seattle, and portland, and have lived in North Dakota, Georga, and traveled all over the south. The south is FAR more diverse and integrated than any of the blue states Ive been in. Just becuse you support BLM doesnt mean that you're less racist than someone who loves to hunt but works in HVAC with like 6 other people from all over the world.

I work in tech, its rediculous its white white white with indians imported in becuse they get payed half as much as the white folk.

Anyway that's an aside. The point I am making is In america we have a diverse population, which means that YOUR idiology doesnt work for other people. But the bill of rights doesnt allow that. And that's all SA supporters are defending, not changing our bill of rights.

Now a cult, is a place where there is only ONE idiology, which sounds a lot more like what you;re talkinga bout.

Your desperate clinging to the single CONCPET of gun control, without even listening to any other arguments, attacking anyone who disagrees by pretending you're entire group is smarter than anyone in the other group, the belife that by limiting freedom you can save lives, all of this is cult like behavior... trust me I know way more about cults than you do. I could probubly name a list of cults 10x any list that you could off the top of your head, but anyway that dont matter.

Ive visited waco btw and ruby ridge, for fuckn fun. That's the kind of person I am so trust me I know plenty about cults.

SA supporters, People who support the Bill of Rights and limited federal power, are WAY less culty than people who have political idiology that drives their entire way of life.

Democrats, yall are SO hyped on your parties idiology its as if, yall were thinking "I hate religion, im a teenager full of angst!" then you moved to a blue state, or surrounded yourself with like minded people, repeated the same bull shit talking points to eachother to feel better, and now attack anyone who disagrees with you, insults them, call them nazis, fascists, demagogs, brainwashed etc

If you want to know what a cult is, look to political parties. Those are cults. Hell, if you are a democrat or a feminist that doesnt toe the line to the idiology TO THE DOT then you are shunned.

SHUNNED

you know who else shun?

Religious cults.

Oh btw if you knew much about cults you'd know the vast majority of them are liberals trying to build utopia and then they end up dead ;) only a small minority are based off religion... funny bit is those are the ones that the ATF murders the women and children of! Sad. (the libs usually end up killing themselves)

[mickmoranis]

anyway, relinking pengin for the 7th time

https://i.imgur.com/IbQVKTA.jpg

this penguin thinks its superior because it has a different opinion than the other guy, but the irony is both of them are meaningless because opinions dont matter.

One thing I have to ask a lib is, if you have done nothing to change gun control in 40 years, why do you think saying the same thing over and over again without changing anything, is some how morally superior than saying hopes and prayers?

im sorry but you have lost the plot, its really sad how petulant the left sounds.

However if teenagers are the mouthpiece for them now, what suprise is it that the left sounds like petulant children.

I mean seriously isnt that kind of at least a little embarrasing? That you have children as your leaders now becuse the adults that have any common sense have abandoned your party entirely and the adults that havent have been laughed out of the spot light (or usually are just a celebrity and have no ability to actually be elected becuse they are just narcissistic artists)

The right made america a country, it saved the world in world war 2, it built our economy, and the left were able to smoke weed and write poetry and live lives of saftey...

Now tehre are so many of you that you think Gilligan was the smartest guy on the island cus he was pretty chill.

The entire left is just one giant highschool clique.. god, another reason why I shouldnt be suprised that the leaders of your party are les than 18 years old now. So sad.

O well, maybe youll bag a pirate one day peter!

[mickmoranis]

https://i.imgur.com/hbxtjRD_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

nightclub shooting? Those are muslims!

but not all musilms are bad

BUT ALL GUN SUPPORTERS ARE

[Irulan]

@wonkie it's alright to quote statistics as long as those statistics support your argument.

I've seen people flat out ignore the truth in #s in favor of their own virtue signalling and ideological bias.

With ppl like "X" it's not trolling it's flat out obsessive ignorance.

Which makes me lol. P hard and click on to the next thread.

[mickmoranis]

^ Pic of a lib deleting Facebook because of something they heard on Facebook

[Wonkie]

@wonkie it's alright to quote statistics as long as those statistics support your argument.

I've seen people flat out ignore the truth in #s in favor of their own virtue signalling and ideological bias.

With ppl like "X" it's not trolling it's flat out obsessive ignorance.

Which makes me lol. P hard and click on to the next thread.

xaanka is a smart gal and definitely knows better. this isn't mick we're talking about.

[Wonkie]

this penguin thinks its superior because it has a different opinion than the other guy, but the irony is both of them are meaningless because opinions dont matter.

the penguin is saying outside of the amendment process, for which the political will does not exist, gun control is a dead issue. he's also saying it's fun to be sassy.

The right made america a country, it saved the world in world war 2,

https://i.imgur.com/jzs316o.png

[mickmoranis]

that penguin definitely thinks it is of higher moral character than the other guy, becuse even though your side has offered only hopes in prayers in the form of status updates that say #neveragain you definitely think the people who disagree with you are "at fault" for gun deaths in america, the same way you think people who didnt vote for hillary are "at fault" for trump being elected.

RE your chart: also yes, there are MANY immiture children that the conservitive minority keeps safe and employed in this country, that doesnt mean the kids run the show, the conservitives do.

its why you are always like "mew mew mew the majority voted for hillary mew mew mew" yes the majority of children who have no jobs that live in like 6 cities with dense populations, high gun violence and gentrification galore, are many, but the country was founded in a way that prevents them from being the voice for the nation.

[skarlorn]

fdr was not a conservative holy shit

[dafier]

I have lots of guns. Only 4 aren't for hunting. Nagant, M1 Garand, M1 Carbine and an AR-15.

There is a famous saying, "Guns don't kill people, I do."

People who lose their minds and kill people like we all see in the news need to die, plain and simple.

[Ket]

Take all guns. Replace with Super-Soaker filled with grape drink. That's the world I want to live in.

[skarlorn]

Sidebar: Who is Pokesans new avatar?

it's the ghost of anakin skywalker edited into star wars ep 6

[mickmoranis]

Sooo it would have stopped the shooting, had people not screwed up... but you say that Common Sense Gun Laws wouldn't have stopped any of these shootings. If the threat wasn't ignored, and the law was followed properly, the shooting wouldn't have happened. Right?

What you are saying is that there are no common sense gun laws so lets make new ones!

what I am informing you of is the laws you want exist but the bureaucracy (that you think is great) screwed up.

Your beef isnt with gun laws, its with inefficient bureaucracy.

Fighting that is not non constititional, so get on it.

But fighitng for laws that exist as if they dont exist, so you can make new laws, that are unconstitutional, that likely wont even work becuse the same beurocracy that screwed up before, will manage the new laws as well.

well then do you get it?

[Raavak]

isosceles or modified weaver?

[Wonkie]

whites do most of the rapes.

im sorry facts upset u

[mickmoranis]

whites do most of the rapes.

im sorry facts upset u

rapes happen at a higher rate in democratic socialist countries

[skarlorn]

wondering what the population size of those relative numbers r tho

there's like 300 million whites in america, only 4k rapists

only 20 or 30 hispanics, 1k rapists

see how this matters, pokesong?

[AzzarTheGod]

rapes happen at a higher rate in democratic socialist countries

this sega kickin necks

[Wonkie]

wondering what the population size of those relative numbers r tho

there's like 300 million whites in america, only 4k rapists

only 20 or 30 hispanics, 1k rapists

see how this matters, pokesong?

not really i just wanted the pretty lady to yell at me :3

[Wonkie]

i should have guessed this was your kink

sorry for outsmarting you

[Patriam1066]

nightclub shooting? Those are muslims!

but not all musilms are bad

BUT ALL GUN SUPPORTERS ARE

All Sunnis are bad

Hope this helps

[Patriam1066]

Seriously, 100% have at least one seriously reprehensible opinion

[Nagoya]

The title was a lie, OP is mad as fuck yelling at everyone. no regular discussion :(

[AzzarTheGod]

The title was a lie, OP is mad as fuck yelling at everyone. no regular discussion :(

omegalul

[skarlorn]

The title was a lie, OP is mad as fuck yelling at everyone. no regular discussion :(

Welcome to Mickposting 101

[Patriam1066]

Mick is still mad about Bernie v Hillary

[Irulan]

TIL in this thread thanks to lulz eating 37k calories or shitting out 13lb of pizza in a 24 hour period is cool.

It does sound kinda cool. Something to do while you're still alive I guess. I wonder if there's an actual upper bound on the total # of calories the body can absorb in (a) specific time period(s).

[AzzarTheGod]

sorry for outsmarting you

Fugazy Irish

[Rainik Stormseeker]

Mental health is the issue and parenting.


ding ding ding! oh, and over-medicating so much of our youth does not help.

[highway]

Show ppl how serious you are about gun control by challenging them to a duel

[AzzarTheGod]

Fugazy Irish

[Swish2]

Guns don't kill people, rappers do

[Domo]

Schnappsidee_1 :

everytime a public shooting happens, the goverment should be forced to put 10 million $ extra into the education system, and hardcore rednecks are not allowed to cry bout this.

[mickmoranis]

if only obama tried to do something about education when he had the chance, but since its abundantlyl clear that the left doesnt care about kids and only cares about disarming the population so they can get rid of the rest of the bill of rights, they put all their energy into healtchare and talking about how guns are bad. Sad.

[mickmoranis]

Reminder:

Fix healthcare = fight with many of America’s most profitable industries

Fix education = fight with libertarian political pundants that wear a shoe on their head

Fix education = smarter people that realize they deserve good healthcare

Fix healthcare = healthy dumb people that don’t realize they need to fix education because they are dumb and happy cus they’re healthy

It’s so obvious they want a docile population to rule over. And by they I mean anyone who’s agenda is to take guns.

[Whirled]

Recently; while out on a dinner date, I was given more than courteous service once they saw I had a mildly concealed firearm. It was after the hostess saw the holster and firearm inside my jacket pocket that she ushered us forth to gain the next available table. The wait staff were very attentive and we mildly discussed being able to carry openly in these days but it quickly dissolved to menu orders. As we left, the waitress brought us extra rolls to take home & also told us our drinks were free.

TL;DR = Guns saved my dinner. Yay for guns

[Rainik Stormseeker]

Nothing is going to stop a sicko with mental health issues from causing harm to people. In other countries with tight gun law they're running vehicles into crowds and attacking people with knifes, machetes and shit.

@JurisDictum - I agree this all could be a play to disctract the public. One of the oldest prime examples is The Olympics, designed to distract the Greek public from issues. In America we also have the superbowl. Played by players of race to distract the country from issues.

Nothing is going to stop a 'mentally fit' - but evil-intentioned - person from killing/harming people if they really want to... except an opposing force at the time the act ensues. Criminals don't obey laws, let alone laughable 'gun free zones'. Instead, the vast amount of recent evidence suggests that they target them.

[Wonkie]

Nothing is going to stop a 'mentally fit' - but evil-intentioned - person from killing/harming people if they really want to... except an opposing force at the time the act ensues. Criminals don't obey laws, let alone laughable 'gun free zones'. Instead, the vast amount of recent evidence suggests that they target them.

what's the point of laws if people break them?

[mickmoranis]

Democrats and liberals in Congress want to disarm law-abiding Americans at the same time they are releasing dangerous criminal aliens and savage gang members onto our streets. Politicians who put criminal aliens before American Citizens should be voted out of office!

[Krycek]

This guy say's it for me. Dunno if anyone already posted, if so it's worth posting again. It's a good watch.

I am the majority! (https://youtu.be/NIwf3d7hP9g)

[Saludeen]

Disarming the population is not about justice or protecting us, but the opposite, because all it does is enable others, which includes criminals and people who enforce the law, to oppress the people who don't have weapons.

[Patriam1066]

I think 80% of the country wants restrictions, in some form, on gun ownership. Why not try this democracy thing? Other people have rights as well, like not having the country run by unattractive obese cigarette smoking yokels from Kentucky

Hope this helps!

[katrik]

I like guns.

[Nibblewitz]

Whites really should have just stuck to trading smallpox with other peoples.

[Patriam1066]

Whites really should have just stuck to trading smallpox with other peoples.

Wasn't necessary. Should've stuck to the Roman method. Accept subjugation and reap the rewards of superiority or don't and be exterminated / enslaved. After all, isn't that just evolution but at a faster pace?

[mickmoranis]

https://i.imgur.com/pSel8y0.jpg

[Patriam1066]

That meme is stupid as hell but I may buy the gun and start carrying again just because I really like that

[mickmoranis]

That meme is stupid as hell but I may buy the gun and start carrying again just because I really like that

https://i.imgur.com/cxGfZPl.png

[Irulan]

Mentos! Vs Mentals.

Tbqh the police need to go home n stay out of it. A lot of wacky nutjobs out there who would make the world better for everyone if the police state weren't consistently in the way of progress IMHO.

[Swish2]

Great way to drop crime (gun crime as part of it) is to properly limit second and third world immigration, and actually look after the mental/physical wellbeing of the American population rather than cut everyone loose and hope for the best.

The UK as an alternative example, the gun crime isn't there - mandem in the streets just stab each other up fam innit u get me? (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/surgeon-regularly-treating-children-school-12306851) Similar problem regarding what used to be pegged as an immigration problem but is now considered "local subculture" in English cities as in the case of London it's usually 2nd/3rd generation kids who seem to enjoy gangs and stabbings. Most white English folks moved out of the big cities and left the new "locals" to do their thing.

[mickmoranis]

He’s right tho

[Patriam1066]

Great way to drop crime (gun crime as part of it) is to properly limit second and third world immigration, and actually look after the mental/physical wellbeing of the American population rather than cut everyone loose and hope for the best.

The UK as an alternative example, the gun crime isn't there - mandem in the streets just stab each other up fam innit u get me? (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/surgeon-regularly-treating-children-school-12306851) Similar problem regarding what used to be pegged as an immigration problem but is now considered "local subculture" in English cities as in the case of London it's usually 2nd/3rd generation kids who seem to enjoy gangs and stabbings. Most white English folks moved out of the big cities and left the new "locals" to do their thing.

w0ke

But your Prince proposed to a third worlder too you know. Also, as an aside, Iran sends its immigrants to fight in Syria as early as age 14. LOL, I love my people! We're ruthleSS

[Gilder]

92fs baretta is the only friend you need in life

Still my favorite 9 to shoot

[Domo]

So yeah, I still belive that guns should be a privilege and not a right, but then again, I live in a diffrent country and my opinion to this topic dosent really matter, since its kind of an american topic only.

Having this said...I just came across a gun video where I found myself saying "FUCK YEAH" (to guns)

reddit link (https://www.reddit.com/r/instant_regret/comments/8ife1l/stealing_from_a_pizza_delivery_guy_whos_got_that/)

[Wonkie]

what did the rap man gambino mean by wiggling his torso and shooting people?

[mickmoranis]

what did the rap man gambino mean by wiggling his torso and shooting people?

who knows, he used an illegal fire arm to shoot up a choir in his video so maybe he meant the same old libtard bull shit and was just saying "I have no idea what a fully automatic rifle and an ar-15 are and or that they are different guns, ban assault rifles!"

Leave it to the fucking libtards to watch a rapper in a music video and think that some fucking message from god is being delivered to them about society. Yikes get a fuckn life kidies.

[mickmoranis]

So yeah, I still belive that guns should be a privilege and not a right, but then again, I live in a diffrent country and my opinion to this topic dosent really matter, since its kind of an american topic only.

Having this said...I just came across a gun video where I found myself saying "FUCK YEAH" (to guns)

reddit link (https://www.reddit.com/r/instant_regret/comments/8ife1l/stealing_from_a_pizza_delivery_guy_whos_got_that/)

Guess what americans do not care about? European opinions. Well libtards like to think that you guys have it all figured out, but the rest of us know better. Nothing works in europe, nothing, all those democratic socalist countries are just raping the environment and selling oil, you dont get a pass becuse you divy up the money you get from it and hand it out to all the white people that live there while you fill the planet with carbon monoxide emisions. And when that oil runs out, all you mother fuckers are going to rip each other to peaces and go right back to the same world wars that you idiots keep starting.

your freedom is a privilege given to you by gun toting americans who knew how to shoot krouts cus they're from a bad ass country that stands for freedom and not a pussy euro one that takes it in the ass from whoever wants to give it to you.

YOU'RE WELCOME :cool:

[Mblake1981]

Props to Domo, I admit its one of the few political posts from him that hasn't made me shift in my chair. Respectful post.

(the first part, the Reddit link is none of my concern)

"So yeah, I still belive that guns should be a privilege and not a right, but then again, I live in a diffrent country and my opinion to this topic dosent really matter, since its kind of an american topic only."

[mickmoranis]

whby are you attacking him when he already said it doesn't matter cause his opinion is euro

you cant say my opinions invalid and heres my opinion thats just saying your opinion everyones opinion is invalid

[Domo]

you cant say my opinions invalid and heres my opinion thats just saying your opinion everyones opinion is invalid

(sorry for the long text and my bad english)

I think you friends trying to tell you that if you wouldn't act like an asshole 90% of the time, you might would be more succesfull at getting your message through.

Your agressive (I AM A MAN, LOOK AT ME I AM A MAN) talking is like the distraction dancing of Donald Glover in This is America.


Ive made on P99 few american friends, and some of them have kind of the same opinion like you, but when they talk with me about political stuff I am able to focus on their message, and not their try "to look badass/cool".


I dont post here that often because most of the time I know that my english is to bad to join a complex topic. But I still enjoy it to have here from time to time a conversation with people who have a diffrent opinion then me.
And the target is for sure not to convert someone of my opinion.

The target is to learn from others and to expand your own horizons.
And if you choose the isolation thats fine, but dont try to silence my opinion only because its diffrent then yours.


Would I be talking only with you about guns the last 2-3 years, I would prolly still think that Americans and Guns a are stupid Idea. But thanks to some nice chats with friends while camping some shit in EverQuest my opinion about guns changed over the time.

(We have the same roots, but not the same branch. And thats absolutely fine.)

So yeah, I still might think that it should be a privilege and not a right to have guns, but whenever now this topic comes up I also have in mind that america have a diffrent history then germany/europa.

You guys wouldn't belive me how often I had a chat with americans who told me that their country have no history.
Thats not correct. America have a history, always had one and will always have one.
And the Civil War is not only a big part of it, its maybe the main reason why people want to keep their right for guns.

I compare this a bit to the fact that we germans are very sensetiv to the swastika symbol. We ban it in video games, in most movies etc., and I understand it that it looks odd from the outside. But someone from the outside will never fully understand how we germans feel about this (well most of us at laest).
And its the same about the 2nd amendment. An Outsider will never fully understand it.

See, Ive learned something. And it would be for sure not possible if I would act like a "dont teach me douchbag".

So yeah, how should we move on from here? Do you want others to understand your opinion or do you want to keep acting like a 4chan frog? Because if ya like to go the "my country is better then your country" path I have to warn you, there is right now the EuroVision going on, and I have enough gay europen material to make you wish you had no Internet!

[Swish2]

w0ke

But your Prince proposed to a third worlder too you know. Also, as an aside, Iran sends its immigrants to fight in Syria as early as age 14. LOL, I love my people! We're ruthleSS

Everyone knows by now he's not Prince Charles' son.

https://i.imgur.com/tLWIrlD.jpg

Why do you think the royal family had her killed? The affair with Dodi Fayed had to be the last straw.

Pictured is James Hewitt, his ol' dad.

[mickmoranis]

(sorry for the long text and my bad english)

I think you friends trying to tell you that if you wouldn't act like an asshole 90% of the time, you might would be more succesfull at getting your message through.

Your agressive (I AM A MAN, LOOK AT ME I AM A MAN) talking is like the distraction dancing of Donald Glover in This is America.


Ive made on P99 few american friends, and some of them have kind of the same opinion like you, but when they talk with me about political stuff I am able to focus on their message, and not their try "to look badass/cool".


I dont post here that often because most of the time I know that my english is to bad to join a complex topic. But I still enjoy it to have here from time to time a conversation with people who have a diffrent opinion then me.
And the target is for sure not to convert someone of my opinion.

The target is to learn from others and to expand your own horizons.
And if you choose the isolation thats fine, but dont try to silence my opinion only because its diffrent then yours.


Would I be talking only with you about guns the last 2-3 years, I would prolly still think that Americans and Guns a are stupid Idea. But thanks to some nice chats with friends while camping some shit in EverQuest my opinion about guns changed over the time.

(We have the same roots, but not the same branch. And thats absolutely fine.)

So yeah, I still might think that it should be a privilege and not a right to have guns, but whenever now this topic comes up I also have in mind that america have a diffrent history then germany/europa.

You guys wouldn't belive me how often I had a chat with americans who told me that their country have no history.
Thats not correct. America have a history, always had one and will always have one.
And the Civil War is not only a big part of it, its maybe the main reason why people want to keep their right for guns.

I compare this a bit to the fact that we germans are very sensetiv to the swastika symbol. We ban it in video games, in most movies etc., and I understand it that it looks odd from the outside. But someone from the outside will never fully understand how we germans feel about this (well most of us at laest).
And its the same about the 2nd amendment. An Outsider will never fully understand it.

See, Ive learned something. And it would be for sure not possible if I would act like a "dont teach me douchbag".

So yeah, how should we move on from here? Do you want others to understand your opinion or do you want to keep acting like a 4chan frog? Because if ya like to go the "my country is better then your country" path I have to warn you, there is right now the EuroVision going on, and I have enough gay europen material to make you wish you had no Internet!

youre welcome for saving your ass in world war 2

[Wonkie]

Everyone knows by now he's not Prince Charles' son.

https://i.imgur.com/tLWIrlD.jpg

Why do you think the royal family had her killed? The affair with Dodi Fayed had to be the last straw.

Pictured is James Hewitt, his ol' dad.

ain't nothin knew. british royals been cucksons since edward III

[Irulan]

The French are by far the best cooks and Jean-Luc Picard the best captain.

[Swish2]

what about the Sisko? why does nobody vote for the black captain?

[Jimjam]

Guess what americans do not care about? European opinions. Well libtards like to think that you guys have it all figured out, but the rest of us know better. Nothing works in europe, nothing, all those democratic socalist countries are just raping the environment and selling oil, you dont get a pass becuse you divy up the money you get from it and hand it out to all the white people that live there while you fill the planet with carbon monoxide emisions. And when that oil runs out, all you mother fuckers are going to rip each other to peaces and go right back to the same world wars that you idiots keep starting.

your freedom is a privilege given to you by gun toting americans who knew how to shoot krouts cus they're from a bad ass country that stands for freedom and not a pussy euro one that takes it in the ass from whoever wants to give it to you.

YOU'RE WELCOME :cool:
Lol, we can thank Amerca because no matter how isolationist they try to be America still manage to more protectionist. America gets involved in anything for financial reasons, not the thinly veiled excuse of 'FREEDOM'.

America excels at selling weapons to both parties in a conflict, choosing a side to support after total escalation, then installing puppets controlled through debt. Yay, freedom!

[Irulan]

yes but patrick stewart is english.

I'm sure the French have a deep appreciation of this fact.

what about the Sisko? why does nobody vote for the black captain?

He is good, the best written, and most authentic. Jean-Luc just edges him out by a hair ironically. He's also white.

[mickmoranis]

Lol, we can thank Amerca because no matter how isolationist they try to be America still manage to more protectionist. America gets involved in anything for financial reasons, not the thinly veiled excuse of 'FREEDOM'.

America excels at selling weapons to both parties in a conflict, choosing a side to support after total escalation, then installing puppets controlled through debt. Yay, freedom!

all countries excel at seling weapons to both parties you dip shipt when has that ever not been the case on earth? Even in fucking tribes we did it.

If you think the reason america won world war 2 and brought freedom to the world and invented both free thought and a free economy is because were greedy or becuse we're imperialists then well

youre just another child raised in a post modern society where teachers gave too much credit to weed smoking homless white people in the 1960's and their vision of peace love.

Jesus said the meek would take over the world, what he meant was the upper middle class who work the land and till the fields, what the hippy post modern poet losers created was a false narrative that by meek he meant the artists and the drug addicts that like to dance all night long.

sorry no those people made up Sodom and Gomorrah.

your opinions will be smote into ruin by the lord god all mighty and youll perish in hellfire brought on by your own volition.

[mickmoranis]

400 people murdered per year by "assault type rifles" 30,000 by cars.

"the deaths by car are neccissary but we should take away 320,000,000 peoples right to arm themselves"

in america 10% of the home brake ins happen while someone is at home

in the UK 70% of home break ins happen while people are at home

WHY

guns protect you

get over it libtards.

[Jimjam]

If you think the reason america won world war 2 and brought freedom to the world and invented both free thought and a free economy is because were greedy or becuse we're imperialists then well

You're being very inconsistent in your view on whether or not the rest of world is free or not.

[Wonkie]

cars and guns aren't the same thing, mick

[Jimjam]

cars and guns aren't the same thing, mick

They are both for getting to the otherside.

[mickmoranis]

cars and guns aren't the same thing, mick

they quite literally are, both are machines.

[Irulan]

Everything is the same thing if you try hard enough.

[Domo]

well for one of the two things you need a licence, the other one you can buy from a dude on a wallmart parking lot.

[feanan]

well for one of the two things you need a licence, the other one you can buy from a dude on a wallmart parking lot.

so you are saying nobody has ever driven a car without a license?

[DinoTriz]

well for one of the two things you need a licence, the other one you can buy from a dude on a wallmart parking lot.

Citizens don't have a fundamental right to own and drive cars.

[Raavak]

Driving is legally a privilege.

[Wonkie]

rights and priviledges aren't very different in democracy. felons and crazies have been deprived of their "right" to own guns by popular vote. constitution cosplay is fun but the mob does what it wants.

[Irulan]

The right to drive and own a car isn't enumerated specifically.

When we enumerate rights in the constitution we place limits on what the government can and can't do. THE GOVERNMENT can't make laws about peoples sex, because that shit is enumerated to have no laws made that discriminate against a persons sex.

When we don't enumerate those rights, it's no holds barred unless it abridges one of our other rights.

I mean technically everything could boil down to the "life and liberty" language.

Life > Liberty > free expression > pursuit of happiness IMO how the founders wanted it.

Your not allowed to abridge peoples life, liberty, or the free expression (which maintains democracy) for your own happiness.... aka if guns or gays make u unhappy ur not allowed to limit someones free expression or liberty just to feel better.

thats how it's supposed to work but we have a bunch of paranoid retarded angry evangelical neeglettes running the show via siphoning off 1% of all corporate church proceeds from hobby lobby and gays like Tony Perkins and groups like the Heritage Foundation and ACLJ.

Who don't understand these things and are creating abject ignorance of our system of government. Through kneegarz like Trump who can't even be botthered to sit 8 minutes through a reading of the bill of rights.

Also dumbass kids and shitty teachers in school are actually way more to blame than anyone else. Because u shouldn't LIVE past kindergarten without understanding the bill of rights and having to re-enact the revolutionary war with blackpowder and muskets and 1776 level medical technology. AND NO ELECTRICITY OR CELLPHONES WITH ANGRY BIRDS AND FACKBOOK ON THEM.

P.S. You're not rly American if you've never fired a blackpowder musket or lived in the woodz without electricity and bug repellant and modern amenities.

[mickmoranis]

rights and priviledges aren't very different in democracy. felons and crazies have been deprived of their "right" to own guns by popular vote. constitution cosplay is fun but the mob does what it wants.

Do you know what the suprime court is or are you saying 12 judges is a mob?

[Wonkie]

Do you know what the suprime court is or are you saying 12 judges is a mob?

12?

:confused:

[Wonkie]

yeah, he got me. fuck you mick.

[Irulan]

I don't like how people get to be on the SC, it's entirely 2 arbitrary and undemocratic.

[mickmoranis]

Well it’s time for liberals to remind us on social media that saying thoughts and prayers doesn’t help.

But for them to follow that with claims that banning assault rifles is the solution turn to this problem, or increasing background checks or some other stupid idea will work.

Meanwhile they ignore that this kid used a pistol and a shotgun, he stole from his father who has a perfect background without any blemishes.

So ONCE AGAIN I remind you that there is NO SUCH THING as common sense gun control.

Thoughts and prayers to the victims.

[Irulan]

I'm praying for the men and males of this country. They aren't getting something they need.

[FungusTrooper]

I'm praying for the men and males of this country. They aren't getting something they need.

Not just the men, but the males and masculines, too.

[Wonkie]

Not just the men, but the males and masculines, too.

high quality shitpost!

[katrik]

The price we pay for the 2nd amendment. I don't even care anymore.

[Irulan]

Not just the men, but the males and masculines, too.

I want to click the blue names in your sig so bad.

[mickmoranis]

The price we pay for the 2nd amendment. I don't even care anymore.

Yea terrorism is unique to America 😱

Bye thanks to the people’s ability to stand up to tyrany because they had guns 401 people are killed a year in “mass shootings” like this a year so 320,000,000 people could inspire the entire globe to follow in our footsteps and adopting our democracy.

Guns literally did all that and the price is around 400 deaths a year.

But it’s a “big problem”

[Irulan]

I really don't blame 2a. It's way more than that going on. Guns are however readily available and popular!

And very sexy.

And manly!

[mickmoranis]

I really don't blame 2a. It's way more than that going on. Guns are however readily available and popular!

It’s clearly because we created an education system where THIS STUDENY was repeatedly bullied BY FACULTY at the school.

One thing all school shooters have in common: popularity contest addicted students amd faculty bullied and failed them treating them like inhumans because they were “different”

The problem is our society not guns.

We hate anyone who is different, we preach helping minirities and illegal aliens but we fail the children born here who need help.

It’s the lefts fault. It’s post modern society’s fault. It’s time we started going back to church.

[Irulan]

I hope the church's start accepting ppl like me as I am and fuck out politics and medicine with their money and "charities" so we can be one big happy cool n normal harmonious Christian family soon!

Miss those pancakes n Sunday dresses are awesome!

Unity! And God Bless!

[Wonkie]

have you seen the edgy weeb gear he was rockin?

I'd bully him too

[Irulan]

Ya. I never was that weird. I conformed. My friends were all Baptists and tried to convert me.

For fun as a kid. We'd go to a communal Mormon farm. We made butter and ice cream by hand. We milked cows and fed ducks. That was my childhood entertainment. We didn't see a gun outdoors and have a panic attack. Everyone was a rancher, Hunter, farmer.