Succor's mana cost and additional mana drain is egregiously broken

[Bummey]

Succor's kinda fucked up?

Succor should cost 300 mana to cast and drain an additional 150 from both the caster and all group members. Right now it costs the caster over 1000 including the initial cast cost and two mysteriously high (and inconsistent) mana drains.

(first test cast) Immediately after casting, while LOADING, PLEASE WAIT... freezes my screen, my UI's mana counter drops from a full mana total of 3345 to 2588, making the initial mana cost 757 (should be 300). Once I load in at the zone's safe spot, my mana drops again to 2320 for an additional mana drain of 268 (should be 150). The total mana cost for the caster (this time) is 1019-1025 instead of the 450 it should be.


Screenshots of a few more casts showing the consistently high mana drains. The before loading drain is always 750 and the after loading mana drain is either 266 or 272.

Cast 1--
Full mana, before cast finishes:
https://i.imgur.com/jN8IupU.png

After cast finishes, while loading: 300 spell cost + 450 drain
https://i.imgur.com/oJY9aGX.png

Loaded in at safe spot: 272 drain
https://i.imgur.com/zT6NZ5X.png

Visible in this first set of screenshots (not my first personal test) is the friend I recruited to help test the group member mana drain, and their mana dropped similarly to my after cast/pre-load 750 mana drain but without the post-load mana 266/272 drain: before cast 2083, during load screen 583, after loading 1359 for a total mana drain of 724 (standing mana regen server tick or two?). The loading screen mana drain appears to be temporary for the group member but not for the caster.


Cast 2--
Full mana, before cast finishes:
https://i.imgur.com/e2h72lE.png

After cast finishes, while loading: 300 spell cost + 450 drain
https://i.imgur.com/guYmbLz.png

Loaded in at safe spot: 266 drain
https://i.imgur.com/aezXbAB.png



Cast 3--
Full mana, before cast finishes:
https://i.imgur.com/SYiH00L.png

After cast finishes, while loading: 300 spell cost + 450 drain
https://i.imgur.com/ewLHLUE.png

Loaded in at safe spot: 266 drain
https://i.imgur.com/4ZnhvCi.png


Cast 4--
(the board wouldn't let me embed more than 10 images, so here are direct links)
Full mana, before cast finishes:
https://i.imgur.com/Qi3ytZm.png

After cast finishes, while loading: 300 spell cost + 450 drain
https://i.imgur.com/7RlVQ6c.png

Loaded in at safe spot: 266 drain
https://i.imgur.com/rmPbF4I.png



Cast 5--
Full mana, before cast finishes:
https://i.imgur.com/xdbgRWE.png

After cast finishes, while loading: 300 spell cost + 450 drain
https://i.imgur.com/ROfJVYy.png

Loaded in at safe spot: 272 drain
https://i.imgur.com/cgyGs73.png

I'm sure there's a server tick or two happening while loading that fudges the numbers a little bit, but that doesn't matter.

Also, once while testing this (I didn't post every test) Succor didn't even cause a loading screen. It just finished casting and drained my mana. I was already standing on the evac point, but I had been standing there for other Succor casts before and after so I don't know what happened that time. :confused:



Any wizards able to test this for Evacuate and Abscond?

[Bummey]

EDIT: Bonus Egress test

500 mana cost, no mana drain component.

Before cast, full mana:
https://i.imgur.com/L5Xpokx.png

After cast, while loading:
No change
https://i.imgur.com/KiYBnPf.png


Loaded in at safe spot: 450 fewer mana than before cast
https://i.imgur.com/gD7gx7m.png

Total cost of 450 mana? There must have been a server tick or three hidden in the loading that caused some standing mana regen.

[Bummey]

Oops I passed the 30 minute edit threshholds. The second set of screenshots with the snake target in the first post was the cast immediately following the noted Succor without a loading screen. I aggroed that snake with esnare to see if it would happen again, but my damage shield or something killed it I don't know. I didn't bother to test again because, of all the times I've had to save a possible wipe with an in-zone Succor cast, I've never seen that happen before. It was either some kind of bug or insanely rare chance to not clear aggro that I'll never see again unless I spend days non-stop casting.

[Rygar]

Did not see you post evidence like lucy spdat history or anecdotal evidence of % of total mana to cast in era. Not saying you are wrong, but would help back up your findings.

[greblhad]

Did not see you post evidence like lucy spdat history or anecdotal evidence of % of total mana to cast in era. Not saying you are wrong, but would help back up your findings.

So you are saying Succor using 1k mana plus passenger drain is not broken?

[Sunderfury]

So you are saying Succor using 1k mana plus passenger drain is not broken?

Yes

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=180914&highlight=succor

moving to resolved