Wandering Mind

[commongood]

Do you use this spell when exp'ing around caster mobs?

I'm currently lvl 52 and soloing in HS. In North and in Basement there are a lot of manadrain targets. I therefore always have Theft of Thought up. But recently I've been experimenting with also having Wandering Mind up. It's definitely more tiresome having that one slot fewer to toggle spells with. Before I would have 2 flex slots where I'd shift around nuke, charm, berserker spirit and lull and that is now down to one slot. But it's not a massive burden neither.

6 mana per tick is pretty big. It's more than half an extra c2. Do you find yourself using this spell? If not is it because you have genuinly found the benefits too limited or is it more about convenience?

[Triiz]

I used it almost all the time when I was leveling in HS. Besides the fact it lasts 2 mins and has a 2.5 min cooldown, 6 mana per tick is the same mana regen that POTG gives so if it's used on cooldown it's slightly less mana than POTG in the long run.

There will be rare occasions you really need the slot that WM is in + 1 swap slot, but most of the time it's worth keeping mem'd and using.

[Baler]

There is the added benefit of reducing the npc's mana so they're casting on you, your pet or your party much less.

[commongood]

There is the added benefit of reducing the npc's mana so they're casting on you, your pet or your party much less.

This is true. Though seems much more decisive on boss-type fights that stretch for minutes.

[applesauce25r624]

if you don't memorize Gate it is very easy to keep an open slot for it at all times. Love this spell

[Tecmos Deception]

if you don't memorize Gate it is very easy to keep an open slot for it at all times. Love this spell

I don't know about "very ease," at least not if you're soloing. Doable, but it definitely increases the amount of spell swapping you need to do.

I tended to keep WM loaded when I could spare it and wasn't full mana all the time anyway cause of a bard in group or whatever.

[Quinas]

I find I almost never need to use my second stun so I'm thinking I'll put WM there.

If I ever find a copy og the spell, that is.

[Baylan295]

There are not many times when I have thought “I need more mana” so much that I would be willing to ditch one of my swap spots for this spell. When soloing (and even grouping) I am constantly swapping between my two swap spots- I can’t imahine doing it with 1 with any regularity.

[Quinas]

I tend to run with one swap spot, but I swap a lot.

[Tecmos Deception]

I tend to run with one swap spot, but I swap a lot.

Too hardcore for me, haha :)

[Quinas]

Lol I'm not amazing at being an Ench though - maybe I should change to a two slot! I can't remember who recommended one-slot.

[Tecmos Deception]

Lol I'm not amazing at being an Ench though - maybe I should change to a two slot! I can't remember who recommended one-slot.

Whatever works for you man. There's no best way to play. I just agree with whoever said that two slots makes for enough swapping. I'd go nuts with only 1, especially if I'm using bedlam's regularly.

[Quinas]

It works for charm soloing and duo and trio. Perhaps more swap slots would be better in a bigger group. While there's no right way to do things, you've done more impressive things with your ench than I have, so I'm always open to ideas.

I have:
Mez
Tash
Root
AE Mez
Slant
Skew
ToT
Swap

[Tecmos Deception]

My typical solo/duo is just like yours except for two swap slots; tash gets swapped in and out. Bedlam, tash, slow, charm, lull, other buffs, slow, a third stun for casters all need attention regularly... but I figure since tash only gets used at the start (and if I get an add I'm likely to mez it first which buys me time to swap spells to get Tash in), so I leave it out of my permanent setup to give myself a bit more flexibility.

Bigger groups (or raids) without a sham? I keep tash loaded instead of one of my swap slots. It gets used so frequently due to faster kills, I can't be assed to keep swapping it. But with a sham? Eh. Depending on what we're fighting I don't tash at all, I just load it for recharms, since I'm not on slow duty and the sham is possibly doing his mr debuffs anyways and I sure as hell don't want to tash before he lands slow.

[Quinas]

Interesting - some good tips thanks.

[Splade]

Whatever works for you man. There's no best way to play. I just agree with whoever said that two slots makes for enough swapping. I'd go nuts with only 1, especially if I'm using bedlam's regularly.

Exactly! I tried to run your setup after watching your videos and it didn't work well for me. I run only 1 stun and 1 swap (sometimes two but usually one) 85% of the time

[Tecmos Deception]

Exactly! I tried to run your setup after watching your videos and it didn't work well for me. I run only 1 stun and 1 swap (sometimes two but usually one) 85% of the time

What do you do on a charm break if your stun gets resisted?

[Splade]

What do you do on a charm break if your stun gets resisted?

If I'm working with a hasted mob I keep 2 stuns. Unhasted regular mobs I hope to channel a mez. I keep mez in my first slot so it will GCD immediately no matter what. I usually always have bezerkers up so the mob will beat on me a little but I mez, re-rune and go about my day

[thebutthat]

I tend to only have this up in places I'm tight on mana. Those tend to be places where allure doesn't stick and I'm using rapture. Outside of that I see very little point in mana capping.

[Triiz]

I can't imagine rolling with only 1 stun.

I end up playing with only 1 swap slot a lot, it's not that bad if you use top slot as the swap slot. The few seconds you save using top slot to swap really adds up over an hour or two, like being able to cast Allure as soon as it's memd, cast Forlorn deeds as soon as it's memd, or Bedlam after 9 seconds instead of 12. But yeah only having 1 swap slot would suck if you don't use top slot.

[Baylan295]

I can't imagine rolling with only 1 stun.

I end up playing with only 1 swap slot a lot, it's not that bad if you use top slot as the swap slot. The few seconds you save using top slot to swap really adds up over an hour or two, like being able to cast Allure as soon as it's memd, cast Forlorn deeds as soon as it's memd, or Bedlam after 9 seconds instead of 12. But yeah only having 1 swap slot would suck if you don't use top slot.

Always root in the first slot. Always. Instant-cast root is amazing. Though I did learn to cheat-gate in HS. If you swap gate into slot 1 and hit your clickie, you can cast without the cool down. Helps with the quick escapes.

[Triiz]

I tried using Root, and then Fetter once I got it, in top slot. Didn't find it as beneficial as using it for swap slot.

[enjchanter]

Slot one really should be a swap slot no matter what.
I run 1 and 2 as swaps and 2 stuns.
The instant nature of slot one is so useful that you shouldn't have any permanent spell loaded there. In moments where I'm not sure what spell I might need there I default to bedlam

As far as root, I actually rarely cast root at all. But I tend to fight summoning mobs so it doesn't do much for me. I find blanket comes in handy much more. Stun - fascination- slow/tash/re-rune - recharm - blanket is my usual charm break strategy when working with summoners and if no summoner then I would just slant recharm. In groups I slant tash charm

For wandering mind I generally will swap my charm for this unless I'm specifically trying to get a caster lom which is not often. Reason being that I won't be charming anything while wandering mind is up , I'll be using it to recoup after a tough encounter or after a rez.

Entrance , wandering mind and theft of thought will get your mana flowing asap while you just keep a caster mezzed indefinitely.

But I would like to comment about everything I said and say that I will swap any spell slot except slant and theft of thought if the situation calls for it. Enchanters need to have ninja fluidity with their slots. Set up your spellbook intelligently , use /book commands for fast swaps , use your button economy in an efficient way.

[Tecmos Deception]

Slot one really should be a swap slot no matter what.
I run 1 and 2 as swaps and 2 stuns.
The instant nature of slot one is so useful that you shouldn't have any permanent spell loaded there. In moments where I'm not sure what spell I might need there I default to bedlam

As far as root, I actually rarely cast root at all. But I tend to fight summoning mobs so it doesn't do much for me. I find blanket comes in handy much more. Stun - fascination- slow/tash/re-rune - recharm - blanket is my usual charm break strategy when working with summoners and if no summoner then I would just slant recharm. In groups I slant tash charm

For wandering mind I generally will swap my charm for this unless I'm specifically trying to get a caster lom which is not often. Reason being that I won't be charming anything while wandering mind is up , I'll be using it to recoup after a tough encounter or after a rez.

Entrance , wandering mind and theft of thought will get your mana flowing asap while you just keep a caster mezzed indefinitely.

But I would like to comment about everything I said and say that I will swap any spell slot except slant and theft of thought if the situation calls for it. Enchanters need to have ninja fluidity with their slots. Set up your spellbook intelligently , use /book commands for fast swaps , use your button economy in an efficient way.

I get the benefit of using top slot for swapping. I'd probably do it too if I hadn't gotten very, very set in my ways before I learned about that. But there's a LOT to be said for AOE mez with no recast, too. Guess it depends on what you're doing. I loved top slot root when leveling to machine-gun out roots on whole-room pulls.

[Beinen]

I don't know if I can "afford" to have two spell slots dedicated to WM and TOT. However, there is great benefit if you can swap quickly and efficiently without causing harm to yourself because you didn't have something up in time.