Larger / Scalable UI for playing on a TV

[Vokhine]

Hey Guys,

I must say it's been a great pleasure to be able to play EQ from my couch on my TV. But long sessions have begun to strain my eyes. I know I'm not the only one who does this so I was curious if anyone has any custom UI's that have scalable group windows / target windows etc. The chat boxes seem ok with /chatfontsize 6. It's really the target / group member health bars I'd like to scale up as I main a Cleric. :D

Cheers,
Vokhine

[Tupakk]

There is nothing.

Talk to Deezy and push him to finish his 4K UI and then there will be something.

[Tupakk]

It’s a bummer that there isn’t a solution to this.

Well tell Deezy to work faster.

[Muggens]

Yes please. I think I actually lost eyesight playing eq, when im not playing im fumbling in the dark

[aaezil]

not classic,

stop

[Vokhine]

If you are serious please shut up

not classic,

stop

[Sicc]

Yes please. Somebody be our hero and fix this!

[d3r14k]

If you are serious please shut up

If you are shut up, please, this is serious.

[SDWV]

I searched for one a long time ago and found that someone was working on it, but I believe it was for live servers. I have a 4k laptop screen and it is hard to see. Set your chat windows to /chatfontsize 5 and memorize your hotkeys.

[Bboboo]

https://i.imgur.com/SSATlgQ.jpg

if only they made a bigger version of these bad boys

[Oleris]

Deezy sent me one in Discord that is for 4k. I haven't had a chance to try it, but you can join there and get it from Deezy or myself if he/she is not on.

[Vokhine]

I would really appreciate that UI as well. Anyway could send it along and or post it here? :)

[SDWV]

I would work on scaling the chat windows, fonts, hotbars, etc. if I knew what I was doing. I've read a few guides but had a hard time making sense of how everything went together in the XML files.

[Oleris]

He sent me some zip(not like that Spyder)file but he hasn’t tried it yet. I think he’s trying to steal my identity.

Should I be worried?

Tupakk using it now. Asked if he could do some screenshots because I want to see what it looks like as well.

[Oleris]

edit: See Tupaks post for better screen shots.

[Tupakk]

I dont use Imgur and not about to figure that shit out. So I push.it.

4k
https://puu.sh/zphdq/621b18a538.bmp
Default
https://puu.sh/zphdv/2a4043bf7f.bmp

It looks like a Duxa Blown up. I watched him work on it for a while. I did make edits already to the text font in the hot buttons because I couldnt see them so I bumped it from 3 to 5.

As far as figuring out XML its not rocket science just read what is written and edit accordingly. You dont need a special program just use notepad.

Link to UI.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/404320206408646666/408851066336182272/4kd.zip

Just drop the FOLDER in your uifiles folder.
https://puu.sh/zphlo/c40dfc75aa.png

As always back your shit up. I am no responsible for your mistakes. *muah*

[SDWV]

Looks good. I'll give it a try on my laptop. Thanks!

[SDWV]

How do you scale the Spell icons in the spell bar as well as the ones in the ones in a hotbar button? Is there a specific XML file for that or is it in 3 separate files?

[Tupakk]

Im stuck on the spell bar as well. I talked to Deezy and thats what hung him up too. I might dick around with it a little today not sure.

[Bboboo]

I dont use Imgur and not about to figure that shit out. So I push.it.

https://i.imgur.com/6Tfo5R6.png

[Muggens]

Thanks pac gonna try this out

[Vokhine]

Used it last night and it does the job!!! Spell bar needs figuring out but this is a huge upgrade for me. Thanks Pac! :D

[SDWV]

I was reading some posts on eqinterface the last couple of days but haven't found anything specific on getting the spell icons to enlarge in the hotbutton bar/spell bar. I would post there, but I don't have authorization and I don't believe anyone gets approval anymore.

[slayith]

I took the UI in this thread and worked on a few windows to change font sizes and completely redid the spell gem bar and player windows


I got lazy with the player window and the alignments are off but all the fonts are size 6 and nothing clips. Changed weight from currentWGT to current/max wgt.

Changed font sizes on action windows, pet window, all hotbeds, the text for the buff window. The text for coin amounts in inventory window.

I'm in traffic now, I'll upload when I get home. I work on it whenever I see another element that I cannot read.

Still looking where window header text is located but I haven't really dug in.

[slayith]

heres the link to the UI with my edits. Eventually ill get around to squaring up the info in the player window. I will supply screenies in a moment as well

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_G5gsld-WnDwBeX1RhS0w54limYu9tBW

[slayith]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/9GinLsfALEGMUAjw1

[Tupakk]

Looks good maybe I’ll switch to yours. The window header texts are in the window chat xml. Should be labeled at header just cntrl f it.

[SDWV]

heres the link to the UI with my edits. Eventually ill get around to squaring up the info in the player window. I will supply screenies in a moment as well

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_G5gsld-WnDwBeX1RhS0w54limYu9tBW



It looks good, but unfortunately it didn't work for me. It attempts to load, but then it reverts back to the default ui.

[Tupakk]

It looks good, but unfortunately it didn't work for me. It attempts to load, but then it reverts back to the default ui.

I’ve found in the name of the folder that it had to be name_name if there is a space. It just make it one name. You also might require additional files. As it looks like he combined horizontal UI with Vert ui.

[SDWV]

Okay. I just threw what he sent into a folder and renamed it, so that may be the issue. I think I named it 4kd Test2. I'll give it another go tonight.

[slayith]

I took the zip froom tupakk copied and overwrote the spellcastwnd.xml from duxa then all other edits are font size or x/y coords.
I make some edits every time I play trying to get more txt legible.

[Tupakk]

I took the zip froom tupakk copied and overwrote the spellcastwnd.xml from duxa then all other edits are font size or x/y coords.
I make some edits every time I play trying to get more txt legible.

Hehe nothing like kiddy scripting a UI for some 4K shit.

[Tupakk]

I took the zip froom tupakk copied and overwrote the spellcastwnd.xml from duxa then all other edits are font size or x/y coords.
I make some edits every time I play trying to get more txt legible.

Didn’t work on my tv went back to default. Does Duxa come with extra files that you didn’t transfer with it?

[slayith]

It was the duxa UI for p99, I copied only the 1 xml into yours. You can try just importing my spell gem window into your ui. Or check your uierrors.log to see if it's the client.

[slayith]

Ok lot of work added into this since my last post. I finished a workable player window thats not hideous. I have made the buff windows text large but havent messed with redoing it yet. This time i added all my default files to the folder so if there was something missing it will be included.

https://imgur.com/Sflfn0V
https://imgur.com/Sflfn0V
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tBy05ilvJtyaJ8aS7Re-KFsYCj6UdGMm/view?usp=sharing

[Tupakk]

Ok lot of work added into this since my last post. I finished a workable player window thats not hideous. I have made the buff windows text large but havent messed with redoing it yet. This time i added all my default files to the folder so if there was something missing it will be included.

https://imgur.com/Sflfn0V
https://imgur.com/Sflfn0V
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tBy05ilvJtyaJ8aS7Re-KFsYCj6UdGMm/view?usp=sharing

Wasn’t anything missing I was a tard and had a folder in a folder.

Your first version the font was all 6 so I toned it down to 5 and everything works perfect for me.

Did you stick with the six in this one as well?

[slayith]

Some stuff is still 6 where it fits. The player window has been completely remapped so everything fits nicely. Im literally working on the buffs window right now, and ive thined out the target window.

https://imgur.com/a/4hOUt
im up to the 8th button of 25 in the buffs window.. slow work even with find replace. After i get all the buttons in place ill see about making the window resizable and anchoring the objects.
Slowly seeing how it calls out the graphics, not in every instance but here and there.

[slayith]

https://imgur.com/a/hb6RO

finished buff window.. reuploaded UI
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1iHoO42u-t_-VaLb0IShB0UGUfaroPpvo
https://imgur.com/a/hb6RO

[slayith]

I goofed the targetwindow, when i thinned the background i didnt realize i cropped out the spell cast bar with it. Adjusted the target window to keep both yet still have the minimilistic approach.

EQUI_TargetWindow.xml (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lQu85AvKwXMqWZPCKIWYkK_yLnxEvofj/view?usp=sharing)

[slayith]

Working on the Inventory window now, will remove the information already included in the player window. Then i will focus on making the inventory squares much larger and functional for 4k. I already enlarged one square so now its just a matter of duplicating and making a new screen to hold it all.

The work would go much faster if my client wouldnt dump every 10 ui reloads or so. Then i have to wait for the character to LD.

[slayith]

Current progress today.
Finished new player window with expanded bars
Improved Inventory window with duplicate information removed.

https://imgur.com/a/a58SE
Ghimlok4K (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JnUuiyvbm7LVgerkKe5fl6cZekgpHvOF/view?usp=sharing)

finished the Merchant window. was easy when I just added missing code.
EQUI_MerchantWnd.xml (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mOamkmtA98Tocbl51bk1bvMfgHr6tggB/view?usp=sharing)

[slayith]

Fixed the button spacing for the bags with combine. No longer overlap with bottom containers.

EQUI_Container.xml (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vaTkKa7M8LEbLGJfWk34Fgx3gkREILkb/view?usp=sharing)

[SDWV]

Nice job, Slayith. I haven't gotten a chance to check this out on my laptop but I will report back on all your hard word soon.

[slayith]

Update:

Hotbar buttons have quadrupled.. Pesky spell icons still show up tiny, but one should be using a /sit off, /cast X macro anyways.
https://imgur.com/a/vQtDE
Ghimlok4k (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VcTaJFzHZLhbasFxGWxAo44BRJrvG6JC/view?usp=sharing)

[deezy]

I'm enjoying the evolution of these changes I began. Good work.

[slayith]

Its only because someone else is not doing it. I hate not being able to play in windowed mode unless i drop my monitor to 1080p

[Tupakk]

Its only because someone else is not doing it. I hate not being able to play in windowed mode unless i drop my monitor to 1080p

Looking good.

[slayith]

Next will be trade windows and group windows, but not tonight.

[SDWV]

Is there a way to test the ui without loading EQ fresh again? Or am I able to /loadskin the ui after I have made new updates?

[Tupakk]

Is there a way to test the ui without loading EQ fresh again? Or am I able to /loadskin the ui after I have made new updates?

You can dynamically edit the ui without restarting EQ. That should include new folders as well.

[slayith]

I'll need some guinea pigs to invite so I can see the group bars. Unless there is a way to goose that window to show IE a dev mode or something.

[Tupakk]

I'll need some guinea pigs to invite so I can see the group bars. Unless there is a way to goose that window to show IE a dev mode or something.

Sidwil 2.9 is an XML program viewer made for Everquest. If not we could do some testing when I get home.

[Tupakk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/349257593803505664/417803065761202186/SidlWidl0.2.9.zip

90% accurate. And is wonky in inventory too.

[slayith]

Wow this program is nice. Sorta like a layout/adobe software. I was working in notepad++
:D

[Tupakk]

Wow this program is nice. Sorta like a layout/adobe software. I was working in notepad++
:D

I wasn’t even using ++ just notepad lol.

[slayith]

Group window is finished, healers rejoice! EQUI_GroupWindow.xml (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cINm2FuppwlDMAsirz6uyXjlNrvcBV7x/view?usp=sharing)

[slayith]

Going to deal with trade and tracking windows tonight. Can't get a play session in without instead standing there and working on UI instead.

[Oleris]

Thanks for updating this. Be nice when everything is properly scaled!

[Vokhine]

Going to deal with trade and tracking windows tonight. Can't get a play session in without instead standing there and working on UI instead.

Doing gods work my man! I'm also eager to load this up when it's finished.

[slayith]

I'll zip up my latest for you tonight. Very playable already. Also the workflow is getting faster as I get used to it.

I'm contemplating increasing the scale a touch larger for those who are 6 to 8ft away. I use 4k monitor @ 24 inches away.

I.E. most decals are 40x40 and I've upped to 80x80 or 100x100 in most cases.

[slayith]

Day later than expected but I overhauled the UI to make it standard 100x100. Very enjoyable now @ 4k resolution.

Please let me know of any tweaks you may want or elements that are out of place that i missed.

https://imgur.com/a/oAOOJ
Ghimlok4K (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LwroEYwEJ48hAPU9WE6Fz7g4bFpvg022/view?usp=sharing)

List of windows that are included:

Character Create
Buff
Chat
Confirm
Group
Item Display
Note
Spellbook
Player
Casting
Target
Inventory
Attached to Cursor
Spell Gems
Pet Info
Training
Bank
Containers
Quantity Slider
Loot
Actions
Skills
Trade
Merchant
Give

TO-DO:
Raid
Raid Options

[Krolo]

This is awesome! Thank you!

[slayith]

I cracked spellgem icon images. It did involve using editing software on the tga file to increase the size. Ill explain in more detail via pm for those who are interested.

New spellgem window incoming!!!

[SDWV]

I cracked spellgem icon images. It did involve using editing software on the tga file to increase the size. Ill explain in more detail via pm for those who are interested.

New spellgem window incoming!!!

Sick. Good job, Slayith!

[slayith]

Window is pretty much done, but i went to the old icons so i will be changing the spellbook as well to match. Stuck right now getting the spellbook open/close icon to show.

[slayith]

Updated too many windows to just add them seperately.

**New Large Icon SpellGem Window**
SpellBookWindow: Updated to 100x100 decals and adjusted layout.
Inventory Window: Fixed cropping of lowest row.
Merchant Window: Changed size of selected item decal to 100x100, adjusted layout.
Character Select: Added window, font size 6 and adjusted layout.
Changed icons for spellgems and book to classic.

https://imgur.com/a/eqKmq
Ghimlok4k.zip (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FYXWSExbfSdjWbyC81ywqAzXACbVsLoz/view?usp=sharing)

[SDWV]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/11rs4EH1qu118bnOOIvdHlk5uKxHJMK18/view?usp=sharing

This is what it looks like on my 4k Laptop (Yoga 2 Pro). Text is hard to read. I may need to tweek it.

[slayith]

thats the old spell gems, they have been updated. As far as the alignment of text in players windows i have no clue why its scrunched on yours.

Id download the latest version.

[Secrets]

Not classic.
640x480 on a CRT or get the heck outta here

[SDWV]

Yeah I noticed that I was using the old version. I think I edited the link just after I updated to your new version.

[slayith]

i noticed the player window being wrong when i changed characters. At least i can try that and see about fixing the alignment issue.

[Krolo]

The new updates look great, even easier to read now.

[slayith]

Few other windows bothering me now that I've had a day to play with it.
Player window
Trade window
Confirmation window
Increase draggable surface of containers
Report any other bugs or tweaks.

I'd really really like to know how to change the quantity number in the corner of items.
The text size of grouped player names, pet window pet name.
If there's anyone that has any insight don't be shy.

[Krolo]

Hoping for an update this weekend. God bless.

[slayith]

It is all minor changes.
The quantity number of a stack font size still eludes me.

Outside of what I've mentioned is there anything I'm missing.

[SDWV]

I need to review what you did and learn how you did it. Then I can start making some tweaks of my own.

[slayith]

Having some experience in markup languages help. HTML XML etc.

I'd be more than happy to invite you to my discord and explain.

[slayith]

I'm really trying not to put more effort than I have to. I'm not an artist so this is almost completely about utility.
Lemme know what irks you and I can add to my list of edits.

[Krolo]

If the number is over three digits in the Self Info window , its hard to read. Boxes that pop up to destroy, rez etc. are really small (have to stretch them).

[slayith]

Ok!
I made the majority of a container drag-able.
Reworked the player window with textures, should be standardized for players.
Confirmation window size increased so text is visible, and increased to size 6.
I dont remember if i fixed trade window, i think i did.
Still confounded on changing the quantity number in the corner of stacks, or the text size of group member names and pet names.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lCIumlNZvHeT2lUvYWmV-4_WvxUROspi/view?usp=sharing

[Krolo]

Player window looks stellar. Thank you!

[Oleris]

UI Looks good. Anyone have a font that is way larger than normal that would scale nice?