What does Tolapumj's Robe do for a caster?

[mjrau]

Can someone shed some light? It doesnt make you cast faster, right? And I dont want to melee at 35, so whats the point?

https://wiki.project1999.com/Tolapumj's_Robe

[beargryllz]

Godmode twink

Throw 5+ extra burst of flames with that +mana and then transition into cracked staff massacre mode in melee

It's also BiS for the raiding enchanter because they probably don't have anything better to do other than melee 99% of the time

[Danth]

Looks great in your bag, and it's a cheap 36% haste item to stick on a charmed pet.

Danth

[Lemonhead]

Cause even caster melee is more efficient than sitting and medding and nuking. (with the 2handers from Velius)

Extreme estimation at level 35 (I'll just leave out damage bonus, cause whatever, Don't wanna)

(30/36 x 2 x 1.36) x 10)= 22.66 dps x (big guess here) 1/3 hit rate x 1/2 damage rate. So lets just say 4 dps.

Level 35 spells are 2:1 damage to mana. You med at 15 mana per tick / 6 = 2.5 mps x 2 = 5 dps.

Nope, it's useless. Reroll.

[SiouxNation]

Godmode twink

Throw 5+ extra burst of flames with that +mana and then transition into cracked staff massacre mode in melee

It's also BiS for the raiding enchanter because they probably don't have anything better to do other than melee 99% of the time

Spitting hot embers of truth on the masses.

[Ciksharn]

I've heard tales of people using it for enchanter pets

[Nagoya]

Looks great in your bag, and it's a cheap 36% haste item to stick on a charmed pet.

Danth

yeah we heard that too.

here.

[Baler]

My 2 cents... Some caster class(es) have weapons that can proc some pretty amazing DD/etc spells. So haste items could make them into proc machines.

I've heard tales of runed enchanters using proc weapons to do dps.

[Nagoya]

Hmm, afaik tho procs are not affected by haste. Weapon procs are based on dex, and spell proc (like vampiric embrace) are based on the spell. In both cases that generates a "proc per minute" ratio and that's what you get on average no matter if you hit 10 or 50 times in that minute.

[w1zard]

Cheap, droppable, common, undesirable to wear by players, high haste item. Perfect for charmed pets.

[Varon]

My 2 cents... Some caster class(es) have weapons that can proc some pretty amazing DD/etc spells. So haste items could make them into proc machines.

I've heard tales of runed enchanters using proc weapons to do dps.


When I dont feel like switching to my rogue, as a chanter. I get focus, primal essence, VoG, boon of garou myself (max dex). Throw on haste robe with Staff of the Silent Star (400 DD proc) and go to town. I've done 8k+ dmg from procs alone on ST golems or other non aoe'ing mobs when I get lucky with procs.

[Jimjam]

Haste only affects frequency of swings, not procs, buddy.

You'll proc a smiliar number of times per minute regardless of your haste.

Statistically, a faster attack speed should mean you are less susceptible to periods of good or bad luck where you under or over proc though.

[Lhancelot]

Statistically, a faster attack speed should mean you are less susceptible to periods of good or bad luck where you under or over proc though.

Haste changes luck? :confused:

[Issar]

To be fair, I’ve had plenty of instances on this server where I have proc’d on 3 swings in a row, albeit very infrequently.

[Nagoya]

Haste changes luck? :confused:

yes, he's not wrong. hastes "stabilizes" luck.
what he said, and i think he's correct, is that it will lower your chances to have good or bad lucks streak. it will obviously not remove them, or change anything % wise. but that impressive 3-procs-in-a-row or that "impressive" 3 mobs in a row without a single proc will hapen less often if you swing 50 times a mob vs 10 times.

[Lhancelot]

yes, he's not wrong. hastes "stabilizes" luck.
what he said, and i think he's correct, is that it will lower your chances to have good or bad lucks streak. it will obviously not remove them, or change anything % wise. but that impressive 3-procs-in-a-row or that "impressive" 3 mobs in a row without a single proc will hapen less often if you swing 50 times a mob vs 10 times.

I am just giving him a hard time. Jimjam always explains things as complicated as he can and the way he worded this was funny to me. :D

[applesauce25r624]

that whole PPM shit is garbage. Just give us the formula ffs

[Jimjam]

Haste changes luck? :confused:

yep, don your Tolapumj and you'll get those Kerrans in bed with you at 4 the speed of 3!

[Lhancelot]

yep, don your Tolapumj and you'll get those Kerrans in bed with you at 4 the speed of 3!

smh. :confused:

[mjrau]

So... for my common, run of the mill Iksar Necromancer, its pretty worthless then? Not as good as my set of froggy robes
https://wiki.project1999.com/Froglok_Bonecaster's_Robe

[fastboy21]

most folks who wear the robe (as compared to giving it to a pet, or equipping it when you plan to melee) simply use it for the stats, which are pretty good.

[enjchanter]

My 2 cents... Some caster class(es) have weapons that can proc some pretty amazing DD/etc spells. So haste items could make them into proc machines.

I've heard tales of runed enchanters using proc weapons to do dps.

Tola robe + silent star staff + vog + boon is pretty tight

[Lemonhead]

Ya, procs happen per min (based on dex) no matter the weapon (of the ones I used). The off hand procs EXACTLY 1/2 of the mainhand, no matter.

Still, an awesome weapon and a caster isn't that bad of dps compared to nuking and medding and crazy stats/a proc/ full haste definitely could win out long term dps at 60. Plus you still have that mana sitting there at the beginning/from down time.

Oh ya, I forgot I parsed hours and hours of various dex procs. I'll find the notebook and see if I can find a formula. I was worried it's not linear tho, or maybe not even (negative) exponential (as in reducing in effect from dex over time). I'll have to run it thru some Matlab although I might not have enough data, and I'm worried it's a subset of formula's like most stats here (as in more effect pre 100, someother 100-200, etc) of which I'm not gonna crack it w/o more parsing. If you have any real parses (I was doing only 30+ min single mobs with crap weapons and background healers) I'd take it =)

[Videri]

that whole PPM shit is garbage. Just give us the formula ffs

Ok.

At 255 dex (scales down for less dex):
Mainhand: 2 procs per minute
Offhand: 1 proc per minute

And there are no items with proc frequency modifiers; they should all proc with the same frequency, be it a Bonethunder Staff or a Sceptre of Destruction.
And this info does not apply to buff-based procs like Vampiric Embrace or Call of Fire.

[Videri]

And yeah, as people have said, you can just ignore the haste and wear it for the stats; and once you outgrow it, it can be given to charmed pets.

[Lemonhead]

80dex | 1 proc per 65.3second | 2698 seconds of data

93sec | 55.8 | 1254

99dex | 55.6 | 2854

102dex | 51.4 | 2977

130dex | 48.2 | 2955

160dex | 43.5 | 2757

255dex | 30? | ?


I have more data, trying to find it