Rygar
12-28-2017, 10:27 AM
I did some searches on the forums and did not see anyone bring this up, but apparently Quivering Veil of Xarn has a 'change form component' so should not take hold if Lich Form is up. It would require you to manually drop Lich form before casting.
Evidence:
http://web.archive.org/web/20020817054008/http://boards.station.sony.com:80/ubb/everquest/Forum1/HTML/000362.html
Thank you for making this spell not night time only, also thank you for adressing so many of the other necro concerns. However there is still one small problem with xarn, it does not stack with lich. Thus if you have lich up and try to cast xarn it does not take effect. Please at least make it overwrite lich.
Both spells have a 'change form' component. Change form spells no longer stack under any circumstances. Making exceptions might not be a great idea, but we'll take a look at it some time in the future.
Quivering Veil of Xarn is an escape spell....how can I use it when I have lich 100% of the time up and it does not overwrite it?
It means that I would have to click down lich and cast Quivering Veil of Xarn......but thats takes way too long.
Please I do NOT ask for it to stack, all I ask that Quivering Veil of Xarn should OVERWRITE any other form-change spells.
We understood the request that it overwrite Lich. As I said, we'll have to look into that later as it would require an exception in code for this spell, not just a change to the spells themselves (I suspect that didn't make as much sense as I think…). Basically, you're asking for a single spell to be exempt from the existing rule system for all spells, and that would require some code to be written for that spell, not just a change in the spell database. That won't happen right now, our programmers are very busy. And before making any exception to any rule we'd want to look at it with a bit of care.
The spell is now much more available than it was before. Not all necromancers have lich up 100% of the time. In any case, the stacking restriction existed before we took away the night only restriction, so you couldn't have used it with Lich up anyhow. And we'll look into the idea of allowing it to overwrite other transformation spells (and that would mean ALL transformation spells, I suspect) in the future.
Those dev posts were dated 10/26/2001.
Current behavior of these 2 spells on P99 are as follows:
1) Necro has Lich on and can cast Quivering Veil of Xarn
2) The 'buff icon' of Lich is replaced with Quivering Veil of Xarn
3) Necromancer maintains their Lich appearance for the full length of the Xarn spell
4) Once Xarn wears off the illusion is dropped and necro reverts to their natural form
I don't believe this was fixed until March 2002, this is the only reference I found:
http://thedruidsgrove.org/archive/eq/t-3855.html
Necromancers' Quivering Veil of Xarn has been improved.
Evidence:
http://web.archive.org/web/20020817054008/http://boards.station.sony.com:80/ubb/everquest/Forum1/HTML/000362.html
Thank you for making this spell not night time only, also thank you for adressing so many of the other necro concerns. However there is still one small problem with xarn, it does not stack with lich. Thus if you have lich up and try to cast xarn it does not take effect. Please at least make it overwrite lich.
Both spells have a 'change form' component. Change form spells no longer stack under any circumstances. Making exceptions might not be a great idea, but we'll take a look at it some time in the future.
Quivering Veil of Xarn is an escape spell....how can I use it when I have lich 100% of the time up and it does not overwrite it?
It means that I would have to click down lich and cast Quivering Veil of Xarn......but thats takes way too long.
Please I do NOT ask for it to stack, all I ask that Quivering Veil of Xarn should OVERWRITE any other form-change spells.
We understood the request that it overwrite Lich. As I said, we'll have to look into that later as it would require an exception in code for this spell, not just a change to the spells themselves (I suspect that didn't make as much sense as I think…). Basically, you're asking for a single spell to be exempt from the existing rule system for all spells, and that would require some code to be written for that spell, not just a change in the spell database. That won't happen right now, our programmers are very busy. And before making any exception to any rule we'd want to look at it with a bit of care.
The spell is now much more available than it was before. Not all necromancers have lich up 100% of the time. In any case, the stacking restriction existed before we took away the night only restriction, so you couldn't have used it with Lich up anyhow. And we'll look into the idea of allowing it to overwrite other transformation spells (and that would mean ALL transformation spells, I suspect) in the future.
Those dev posts were dated 10/26/2001.
Current behavior of these 2 spells on P99 are as follows:
1) Necro has Lich on and can cast Quivering Veil of Xarn
2) The 'buff icon' of Lich is replaced with Quivering Veil of Xarn
3) Necromancer maintains their Lich appearance for the full length of the Xarn spell
4) Once Xarn wears off the illusion is dropped and necro reverts to their natural form
I don't believe this was fixed until March 2002, this is the only reference I found:
http://thedruidsgrove.org/archive/eq/t-3855.html
Necromancers' Quivering Veil of Xarn has been improved.