FOX vs CNN (my analysis)

[skarlorn]

Since before the election, I've followed FOX and CNN on Facebook. (I check some other news sources as well but for the sake of this thread I'm sticking with those 2).

CNN is more biased towards the left than FOX is towards the right.

This was very surprising to me, as a coastal denizen of the West educated by colleges. Perhaps it's due to the current President's loathing of CNN, but CNN these days is constantly putting an over-the-top negative spin on the Trump Administration.

FOX, on the other hand, I would say is marginally pro-Right. I say this because they will often feature prominent Republicans and make them seem like the only voice of reason more often than giving equilateral coverage to both left and right. However, FOX does give space to opinion's from the left, anti-trump coverage, etc.

[hyejin]

another thread about your anal lysis?

[loramin]

Since before the election, I've followed FOX and CNN on Facebook. (I check some other news sources as well but for the sake of this thread I'm sticking with those 2).

CNN is more biased towards the left than FOX is towards the right.

This was very surprising to me, as a coastal denizen of the West educated by colleges. Perhaps it's due to the current President's loathing of CNN, but CNN these days is constantly putting an over-the-top negative spin on the Trump Administration.

FOX, on the other hand, I would say is marginally pro-Right. I say this because they will often feature prominent Republicans and make them seem like the only voice of reason more often than giving equilateral coverage to both left and right. However, FOX does give space to opinion's from the left, anti-trump coverage, etc.

I used to "comparison shop" Fox years ago, and they were very biased. I don't read/watch them very often now, but they do seem to have gotten better about that over time, plus they've made other (surprisingly) good moves like firing O'Reilly.

As for CNN, I read them regularly, and while they're certainly not as bad as Fox used to be, they definitely have a slant now. To be fair the whole situation with the president directly attacking them is kind of unprecedented, but even so they're taking it way too personally. Their whole skipping of the White House X-mas party thing is a perfect example: it doesn't matter how biased the news source is, even it it's the president himself, the news itself needs to (try to) stay neutral.

[skarlorn]

Indeed, Lora. I'm glad to have some more historic perspective b/c it seems in line with my guesses. I really hope CNN gets its shit together, and frankly I'm impressed that FOX has been changing its stance some.

[skarlorn]

another thread about your anal lysis?

you remind me of a gay friend of mine who is also extremely sexually charged, basically at all times. Why do you think you are so focused on sexuality?

[Lulz~Sect]

You guys watch TV?

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[Pokesan]

fox has its moments (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgoSwMKKq1o)

[JurisDictum]

Keep in mind fox recently has been trying to move to the center because the 70+ crowd it is serving now is -- you know -- going to die. They were more bias IMO -- especially during the Bush years. But It might be changing partly due to Merdoch's kids taking over the empire and partly due to MSNBC going off the rails (dragging CNN with it).

All T.V. networks are conservative on the economy. There is socialist advocates allowed on except Bernie Sanders and Liz Warren for obvious reasons. They are also pure propaganda to the highest bidder on foreign policy matters. You'll never hear Chomsky's take despite him being a kind of academic guru of the left.

But yea, they let us debate feminism, the environment, and BLM a lot.

[jakerees]

Both networks are unwatchable

[skarlorn]

Keep in mind fox recently has been trying to move to the center because the 70+ crowd it is serving now is -- you know -- going to die. They were more bias IMO -- especially during the Bush years. But It might be changing partly due to Merdoch's kids taking over the empire and partly due to MSNBC going off the rails (dragging CNN with it).

good poast

[hyejin]

you remind me of a gay friend of mine who is also extremely sexually charged, basically at all times. Why do you think you are so focused on sexuality?

I hope you don't feel malice from me there is none ;_;

I was a virgin until recently. Be nice :o

[skarlorn]

no malice dear I'm honestly interested.

[Evia]

Both networks are unwatchable

[skarlorn]

Yes I would never dream of watching them on TV, however it takes a very small amt of concentration to check them on the net.

Where do u get your info from, evia?

[Raavak]

I get all my news from Rants & Flames.

[JurisDictum]

There is socialist advocates allowed on except Bernie Sanders and Liz Warren for obvious reasons..

Meant to say there is little to no socialist presence on major T.V. networks. Despite the ideas being popular to the vast majority of Democrats exposed to it.

You can't just not let a Presidential candidate on your network though (that is really popular). Same deal with Warren being a Senator.

[skarlorn]

What I am really seeking is other perspectives on the best sources of information regarding Geo political and economic news.

[JurisDictum]

What I am really seeking is other perspectives on the best sources of information regarding Geo political and economic news.

Democracy now! is the college professor news channel in my experience. https://www.democracynow.org/shows/2017/12/1

But the truth is a lot of political gurus get their information from friends and academic articles more than newspapers.

Al Jazeera will give you a more Arabic-leaning pro-Muslim view.

Sometimes its fun to read the Chinese State paper. View it as a conversation between the government and people with lots of implications and hints.

[hyejin]

no malice dear I'm honestly interested.

well I've found my way in the world by being pretty and manipulating mens' sexualities and maintaining relationships with limited and rigidly-structured physical contact. until recently, when Jesus sent first a weirdo angel with lots of emojis to teach me feeling. then he started rapturing my hands and sent a swastika angel who taught me alchemy. then he sent I think Solomon's reincarnation (this 1 you probably don't know) to crack me open & rescue me. There is a mania for it that's worn thin I know!, but it was a big snag and now it looks like I don't got another big chunk of time to expend on snags so I'm manically trying to drink my fill. ^^;;; Anyway I'm not 1-dimensional but I am an obsessed obsessive. gulp


I subscribe to the New York Times. How about y'all?

[AzzarTheGod]

I subscribe to the New York Times. How about y'all?


reppin NYT baby

*daps whale*

[Lhancelot]

I watch both for giggles and they both are biased.

You only find truth when you either directly talk to someone who is in the actual know of the news being presented, or go outside the major networks particularly those on USA TV channels.

Luckily the internet can provide other lenses to view recent news events but as all "news" it can be inaccurate too.

National TV news is mostly pure garbage with a huge amount of bias depending on what audience they are pandering to.

[JurisDictum]

The truth about the NYT is it's the USA state paper in regards to Foreign Policy. But we are a little more ethical and balanced than China.

It's not corrupt unless you view it that way. FP officials have to pick a paper to talk to don't they? Most news networks can't even afford to hire FP journalists -- too damn expensive for articles the public doesn't even understand.

[AzzarTheGod]

The truth about the NYT is it's the USA state paper in regards to Foreign Policy. But we are a little more ethical and balanced than China.

It's not corrupt unless you view it that way. FP officials have to pick a paper to talk to don't they? Most news networks can't even afford to hire FP journalists -- too damn expensive for articles the public doesn't even understand.

I heard the Washington Post actually has a C;A shell company that owns a large controlling stake of the newspaper.

Having trouble proving it but its in the works. Its one of those darkweb deepstate infograms that had the info.

the NYT is just cucked and requires no such hands-on ballsack approach.

[skarlorn]

I tend to prefer BBC myself

[Lhancelot]

I tend to prefer BBC myself

I bet you do.

https://i.imgur.com/ZSuxab2.gif

[AzzarTheGod]

I tend to prefer BBC myself

yea not trolling. I do a little BBC Worldwide on satellite

and a little NPR. but mostly BBC.

[nostalgiaquest]

it depends on the pundits. Shepard Smith actually has some journalistic integrity while Hannity and Carlson are complete right wing shills. I'm surprised/not surprised Shep hasn't been fired. On the one hand he can go use facts and analysis so complete destroy whatever bullshit narrative Hannity and friends are pushing, but on the other hand Shep gives fox someone to point to and say "see, we're fair and balanced, look at Shep. look look!"

[fash]

What I am really seeking is other perspectives on the best sources of information regarding Geo political and economic news.

Honestly, if you're looking for legacy mainstream media sources, the only option is to read/listen to stories from multiple stories and try to separate the facts from spin. I can't think of one legacy media outlet that honestly tries to present an "unbiased" point of view.

The problem is traditional, neutral journalism doesn't sell. Even if a company has ethical journalists that want to inform the public neutrally, they simply are overshadowed by the editorializing that has become necessary to keep their business afloat today.

The only place you'll find neutral journalists that control the pov from investigation to reporting is in (a small portion) of alternative media.

[icedwards]

The only place you'll find neutral journalists that control the pov from investigation to reporting is in (a small portion) of alternative media.

I'd love to know what alternative media a guy with a forum handle Fash considers neutral journalism :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:




Stick to Reuters OP

[fash]

I'd love to know what alternative media a guy with a forum handle Fash considers neutral journalism :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Tim Pool is a good example. Hated by both the left and right.

What kind of media does a guy with a forum handle icedwards consider neutral journalism? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Lhancelot]

Honestly, if you're looking for legacy mainstream media sources, the only option is to read/listen to stories from multiple stories and try to separate the facts from spin.

This is 100% true imo.

I scour the internet when I really want to learn about a specific event. There is so much misinformation though sometimes it makes your head spin because you will find so many different accounts of what actually happened.

On one hand it's great to have so many sources of information but on the other hand this vast ocean of information also has oceans of misinformation too.

There's no question information is contaminated purposefully to derail the truth regarding any noteworthy event so you really have to scour for the truth and sometimes I honestly believe it's simply impossible to find the truth.

There's no true neutral source of information either I have come to find. That's why you are better off taking in as much as you can from all different sources and try to piece things together try to glean the truth from all the sources of info you read from.

[icedwards]

Tim Pool is a good example. Hated by both the left and right.

What kind of media does a guy with a forum handle icedwards consider neutral journalism? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Do we really have to go through this whole song and dance where you feign dumb or can we just skip straight to the part where you try to convince us The Daily Stormer is a reputable news source?

[Pokesan]

Do we really have to go through this whole song and dance where you feign dumb or can we just skip straight to the part where you try to convince us The Daily Stormer is a reputable news sourse?

that's an outrageous accusation

pewdiepie, now notch. These Swedish e-celebs are raising generation zyklon to reclaim their homeland.

https://i.imgur.com/DeoMwzM.png

How dare they!

[fash]

Do we really have to go through this whole song and dance where you feign dumb or can we just skip straight to the part where you try to convince us The Daily Stormer is a reputable news sourse?

The topic is bias in journalism.

1) I don't read The Daily Stormer.

2) You're a moron for thinking it's a neutral media outlet with the goal of journalistic objectivism.

3) I answered your question. You evaded my question. Who is the deceptive one here? :)

that's an outrageous accusation... Generation Zyklon

It's called Generation Zyklon because it's considerably more right-wing. I didn't start that meme, but it's accurate so I use it.

[icedwards]

The topic is bias in journalism.

1) I don't read The Daily Stormer.

2) You're a moron for thinking it's a neutral media outlet with the goal of journalistic objectivism.

3) I answered your question. You evaded my question. Who is the deceptive one here? :)



It's called Generation Zyklon because it's considerably more right-wing. I didn't start that meme, but it's accurate so I use it.

I already said Reuters.

Being able to squeeze projecting, dog-whistling and gaslighting into one post has got to some sort of Nazi bingo though. Well done.

[fash]

I already said Reuters.

I had an undergrad assignment to write a machine learning algorithm to classify reuters articles as biased or not. Can confirm they aren't unbiased. What I said earlier about legacy mainstream media applies to Reuters too.

Nazi bingo though. Well done.

You calling me a socialist? That's outright slander. How dare you!

[AzzarTheGod]

I already said Reuters.

Being able to squeeze projecting, dog-whistling and gaslighting into one post has got to some sort of Nazi bingo though. Well done.

lmao bands

[zodium]

I had an undergrad assignment to write a machine learning algorithm to classify reuters articles as biased or not. Can confirm they aren't unbiased.

A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. :o

It is safer to have a lot.

[Baler]

I was watching both before the election but the unwillingness cnn showed to say anything bad about the left really brought things into perspective. They even fired and reprimanded people who said anything in the slightest that may hurt the left's image. Granted I don't think fox is an angel. And while people say fox leans to the right it's not owned by the right lol. Fox has always been in the firing sights by the democrats. Media hates fox this is ever so apparent when you look at tv shows. They all make one sided jokes that get into the youths mind making them grow up to think fox is bad. Again not saying either is an angel.

Information is power and who ever wields it has the ability to shape the universe.