Making Money Early On

[kjohns339]

What’s the best way to make plat early on?
Bone chips, death fist belts, HQ animal pelts?
Do people buy these things anymore?

[Yoink1986]

I think more so bone chips but depends on where u start. If start as Iksar then bone chips and spider silks. If up by gfay then cab belts and pads can sell.

[Senescant]

http://wiki.project1999.com/Treasure_Hunting_Guide

Check here.

[Lammy]

Crushbone belts and pads as well as the ears from High Hold Keep.

[Legidias]

How early? lfay sisters camp is the best until like 30's even after it stops giving xp

[Maliant]

Sisters is good but almost always camped. If you are a caster you are going to have to zone to vendor and then someone will probably take your camp.

[Lhancelot]

stack of bone chips - 10pp
HQ bear skin - 30pp
HQ cat / HQ wolf pelts or skins - 4pp to 10pp depending how desperate tradeskiller is.
Stack of spidering silk - 15pp
Stack of spider silk - 10pp
Polar bear skin - 30pp
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These are the easiest lowbie mats to farm for quick plats.

Edited to add polar bear skins! Thanks @ AkashicRecord. :)

[AkashicRecord]

Sisters is good but almost always camped. If you are a caster you are going to have to zone to vendor and then someone will probably take your camp.

Pay someone to vendor for you? :p

[AkashicRecord]

stack of bone chips - 10pp
HQ bear skin - 30pp
HQ cat / HQ wolf pelts or skins - 4pp to 10pp depending how desperate tradeskiller is.
Stack of spidering silk - 15pp
Stack of spider silk - 10pp
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These are the easiest lowbie mats to farm for quick plats.

People were routinely buying Polar Bear Skins (http://wiki.project1999.com/Polar_Bear_Skin) from me (around Halas) for 30pp.

[kjohns339]

Thanks for the input guys! Just curios as to what was still the best bet. :)

[demonith]

what class are you? that can have a huge effect

[Kalamurv]

Why would you zone to vendor while at sisters? There's the ranger huts like 50' away from them with a vendor....assuming your not evil race / class

[JoFo23]

stack of bone chips - 10pp
HQ bear skin - 30pp
HQ cat / HQ wolf pelts or skins - 4pp to 10pp depending how desperate tradeskiller is.
Stack of spidering silk - 15pp
Stack of spider silk - 10pp
Polar bear skin - 30pp
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These are the easiest lowbie mats to farm for quick plats.

Edited to add polar bear skins! Thanks @ AkashicRecord. :)

Thanks for the info. I'm just starting out too and was wondering if these things still sold.

JoFo

[Randomiseduser]

I wrote this a while back, but everything is still valid.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268116

Also, check the Treasure Hunting Guide as mentioned previously as well (http://wiki.project1999.com/Treasure%20Hunting%20Guide).

Good luck and have fun!

[EpicAdventure]

my advice related to this is don't worry about it... Join a guild, get full banded armor and 2 hp / ac crafted rings. that and best wep you can afford will be enough for any melee type till close to 30.

sisters camp in lfay is the only good plat spot before halfling wall guards imo. Trying to collect bone chips and pelts just make you lvl slower, where once you get to lvl 30+ your ability to make pp will be much higher.

[Jimjam]

1:2 ratio weapons (40pp)
Banded (100pp)
hp/ac rings (500pp)
haste (2kpp)

This will take you to 46 where you can just start looting decent equipment.

Plat is just for bottles of milk, muffins, bandages and peridots... alongside tipping for services rendered such as buffs/ports/rezzes so the priests can support their churches.

[wagorf]

all the advice to collect and sell skins/bone chips/silk and stuff are dumb - return of investment is insanely low and u get zero xp

20 stacks of bone chips = 200pp, are u kidding me?

the time to collect items and find a buyer, u could have leveled to 30s or 40s easy - durin those levels you can vendor fine steel/gems off while xping

starting at 50 regular xping should net u at least 300p per day

[Legidias]

Some stuff just comes to you naturally while lvling fine though. If youre iksar and in kurns like 12-20, you will end up with bags and bags of bones without lifting a finger.

If you're like lvl 23 and killing crag spiders in EK, you will also end up with bags of spider silks. (Having said that, lvl 23+ in sol a is way better money)

[Jimjam]

all the advice to collect and sell skins/bone chips/silk and stuff are dumb - return of investment is insanely low and u get zero xp

It's not dumb to spend 1-4 killing decaying skeletons and walking out with 2 backpacks of bone chips, a full set of cloth armor and enough cash loot to buy an entry 10:25 weapon from EC instead of killing moss snakes and walking away with nothing.

[Kalamurv]

sol a is great money...and far better xp than mistmoore...gotta love the blocks of HQ ore, 50p to vendor and drop fairly common

[Lhancelot]

It's not dumb to spend 1-4 killing decaying skeletons and walking out with 2 backpacks of bone chips, a full set of cloth armor and enough cash loot to buy an entry 10:25 weapon from EC instead of killing moss snakes and walking away with nothing.

[IgglooV2]

For very low starting characters: You can collect pelts and bone chips in EC, right where you can also auction them. It can take a bit to find a buyer but when they come they buy everything.

I did this over the weekend and got several hundred plat, which I used to buy a decent lowbie weapon, a shield and some other key items, and still had a few hundred plat left over. I recommend this for a new character. Yes, it is slower leveling than a few other areas, but getting a little money going is worth it.

[wagorf]

It's not dumb to spend 1-4 killing decaying skeletons and walking out with 2 backpacks of bone chips, a full set of cloth armor and enough cash loot to buy an entry 10:25 weapon from EC instead of killing moss snakes and walking away with nothing.

so ur spending ur time getting no xp to get tiny little plat, and then more time trying to find buyer in EC. what a great roi...im guessing you have no clue what roi is

killing decayed instead of moss - lol sure if level 1 through 3 takes 4 hours then go ahead

[Jimjam]

Please share your strategies for 1, 2 and 3 on a fresh toon.

Also, if you want to be scum, you can quite effectively sell bonechips by cold calling (or just bank them until you have a contact)... or just hand them in to Kaladim. Each chip is equivalent to killing a white con level 5 mob and levels > money.

North Ro is my preferred location for decayed skeleton genocide (guards, vendors and swams of skeletons within seconds of each other).

[Canelek]

Chips/Pelt gathering is a perfectly acceptable first character strategy to make a little scratch for spells/low end gear. For Qeynos, rabid wolves, then rabid bears, and finally bandits, is fantastic. There is a Qeynos guide around here somewhere that details the ins and outs.

Once you stop getting experience, move on though, unless you love the nickle and dime cash earning.

[skarlorn]

For Qeynos, rabid wolves, then rabid bears, and finally bandits, is fantastic. .

this is actually my favorite series of quests in EQ. It feels like the only fully developed starter zone that supplies a variety of quests to benefit leveling toons.

[Legidias]

Qeynos guide: Step 1. Leave Qeynos, get to Freeport

[Truheart]

step one - make a high elf or wood elf
step two - take char to felwithe
step three - wait for necromancer to farm guards (shouldn't take long)
step four - offer to sell the finesteel/two handed swords for said necro for small fee
step five - repeat
step six - win

Healingwind/Gratefull/Truheart
Azure Guard

[Lhancelot]

so ur spending ur time getting no xp to get tiny little plat, and then more time trying to find buyer in EC. what a great roi...im guessing you have no clue what roi is

killing decayed instead of moss - lol sure if level 1 through 3 takes 4 hours then go ahead

If a new player spends 2 hours farming bone chips and HQ bear skins, manages to save 500pp from selling lowbie mats to players he can then buy 2 55hp rings and a decent weapon like a green jade broadsword or a crystalline spider fang etc.

The 2 hours spent gathering mats to sell for profit will easily save time in the long run for a noob when they then can slaughter mobs with a 10/22 magic weapon and 110 extra hps compared to swinging a noob non-magical weapon 4/28.

The killing power with a much improved weapon alone is reason enough for a noob to work on getting a little bit of plat as they start out... How do you not understand this?

Unless you plan that someone will hand the brand new player gear for free, it definitely pays off for a new player to use the economics to their favor gathering lowbie mats to sell for profit. This way they earn their gears themselves too.

[Shrubwise]

The best way to make money early on is to find neighbors who need yard work done, perhaps a paper delivery route, a lemonade stand, or washing your parents’ cars.

[Nagoya]

I coerced a lvl 60 iksar necro into paying 200pp for a stack of bone chips in west freeport on my human rogue.

I was drunk EQing and /roleplay so I just stayed in character and cornered him to hand out the cash or he would taste my dagger! and it worked. 200pp at lvl 3 for 20 bone chips is quite convenient.

Long story short; level 60 nowadays are filthy rich and selling a stack of bone chips for far too many pesos is probably your best bet to make early money, outside of outright begging ><

If we're talking about hypothetical "Green99" it's a different story but, there's none of that for now :)

[Maliant]

Hehe Truheart. I think I used to pay felwithe noobs 20% of my vendor profits. I'd advertise when I was in gfay and every 30 minutes or so I'd have someone show up to vendor and make a few hundred plat

[SunDrake]

Some solid advice. Find a zone where you can basically level 1-5 exclusively on decaying skeletons. Zones like Butcherblock and East Freeport / North Ro. It will become slow, but just grind it out. Max your skills and have bags upon bags of Bone Chips. Get a magic weapon for about 50p, then hunt wisps once you are around level 10. North Karana Gypsy camp is an ideal spot, as you can turn in each Greater Lightstone to the gypsies and sell the tome for 9p. Regular lightstones are minor exp and some coin, too. If the wisps around the camp are taken try some bandits. Bronze weapons and the Bandit Sash turn-ins in Qeynos reward more Bronze weapons, plus exp. If you prefer to camp an item I think a lot of lower levels camp the weight reduction bag off the orc in Kithicor for ~100ish plat per, and its not a Lore item.

[supermonk]

learn to tailor and make leather padding from lq/md pelts. I think I ended up spending like 5k from buying so many from low level tailors

[Jimjam]

If you prefer to camp an item I think a lot of lower levels camp the weight reduction bag off the orc in Kithicor for ~100ish plat per, and its not a Lore item.

I've not actively done this, but I have killed the mob in passing. The bag also drops in Highhold Pass from the orcs there. Those orcs also drop scalps, which can be sold to people PLing alts/faction or handed in yourself for decent xp.

GLS are very nice xp/cash for the level.

I remember when I started Jimjam; I killed them solidly in NK until they weren't xp, then handed in a tonne of lightstone/greater lightstones. I had so much plat I got a set of the vendor sold plat, cos Jimjam is a bawlster, like that.

[bub99]

Some stuff just comes to you naturally while lvling fine though. If youre iksar and in kurns like 12-20, you will end up with bags and bags of bones without lifting a finger.

If you're like lvl 23 and killing crag spiders in EK, you will also end up with bags of spider silks. (Having said that, lvl 23+ in sol a is way better money)

Rabid grizzly skins turned in to the lady in the spaceship in queynos gets 3-4pp and pretty good exp. I even kill them today if I'm going that way.

Oh and faction too.

[wagorf]

If a new player spends 2 hours farming bone chips and HQ bear skins, manages to save 500pp from selling lowbie mats to players he can then buy 2 55hp rings and a decent weapon like a green jade broadsword or a crystalline spider fang etc.

The 2 hours spent gathering mats to sell for profit will easily save time in the long run for a noob when they then can slaughter mobs with a 10/22 magic weapon and 110 extra hps compared to swinging a noob non-magical weapon 4/28.

The killing power with a much improved weapon alone is reason enough for a noob to work on getting a little bit of plat as they start out... How do you not understand this?

Unless you plan that someone will hand the brand new player gear for free, it definitely pays off for a new player to use the economics to their favor gathering lowbie mats to sell for profit. This way they earn their gears themselves too.

(1) it takes way more than 2 hours. killing, gathering, and then idle in EC looking for a trade takes way more than that, the roi vs time spent is horrible

(2) you assume the plat from bone chips can greatly increase the efficiency in leveling. this works only for melees, and without regen/haste which they cant afford, the down time is still huge. and for caster classes that 200p isn't going to do jack shxx

(3) if the intention to get plat is to buy gears to improve leveling efficiency, then the goal is to "save time". when you do nothing but gather bone chips and try to find a match in EC, that is the opposite of saving time. the hours you spent doing the looting/selling already well exceed the time you saved on leveling with cheap gears.

(4) 50pp weapons vs. 200pp weapons has almost no difference in leveling efficiency - on top of that 50pp weapons can be obtained free just by shouting in EC

(5) 2 hours can get 500pp from bone chips/high Q skins?? now ur just making shxx up. low level newb char solo naked?? 2 hours and you can get enuf bone chips/skins!? dude don't make up shxx man...straight lie

You need to stop lying about all the "great things" new players can obtain on a game like EQ. The fact is they will remain poor and have no leveling efficiency whatsoever without any help. You are painting this great picture what newly started players can achieve, only to let them realize at level 30 or 40 that they couldn't get jack unless they are over 50 or 55. By that time they are mostly too deeply invested into the game - all hours wasted.

You want to encourage new players, sure, but don't paint this fake beautiful picture on how new players can make plat and earn their gears. No they won't get good gears period until late game, and selling bone chips/skins doesn't get anywhere close either. P99 population is full of seasoned player, and every player is for themselves and for greed. Item prices rarely drop despite the increase in item supply. Sit in EC everyday for 2 weeks and you will see.

[Jimjam]

(1) it takes way more than 2 hours. killing, gathering, and then idle in EC looking for a trade takes way more than that, the roi vs time spent is horrible

(2) you assume the plat from bone chips can greatly increase the efficiency in leveling. this works only for melees, and without regen/haste which they cant afford, the down time is still huge. and for caster classes that 200p isn't going to do jack shxx

(3) if the intention to get plat is to buy gears to improve leveling efficiency, then the goal is to "save time". when you do nothing but gather bone chips and try to find a match in EC, that is the opposite of saving time. the hours you spent doing the looting/selling already well exceed the time you saved on leveling with cheap gears.

(4) 50pp weapons vs. 200pp weapons has almost no difference in leveling efficiency - on top of that 50pp weapons can be obtained free just by shouting in EC

(5) 2 hours can get 500pp from bone chips/high Q skins?? now ur just making shxx up. low level newb char solo naked?? 2 hours and you can get enuf bone chips/skins!? dude don't make up shxx man...straight lie

You need to stop lying about all the "great things" new players can obtain on a game like EQ. The fact is they will remain poor and have no leveling efficiency whatsoever without any help. You are painting this great picture what newly started players can achieve, only to let them realize at level 30 or 40 that they couldn't get jack unless they are over 50 or 55. By that time they are mostly too deeply invested into the game - all hours wasted.

You want to encourage new players, sure, but don't paint this fake beautiful picture on how new players can make plat and earn their gears. No they won't get good gears period until late game, and selling bone chips/skins doesn't get anywhere close either. P99 population is full of seasoned player, and every player is for themselves and for greed. Item prices rarely drop despite the increase in item supply. Sit in EC everyday for 2 weeks and you will see.

1) EC isn't an idle zone for low level characters, in fact it is a great place to XP, farm trade skill or xp quest components as high level buffs are available. That said, you don't even need to go to EC to make sales.

2) I actually agree with this point, and would suggest questing bonechips earnt in the first few levels for kaladim xp. I've found vendored trash from decayed skeletons is often enough to get that entry level 10/25 for melees or a nice ratio 11/20ish 2hb for casters for a reasonable 20-50pp. That said, melee don't need downtime. The battle bandage technique is pretty OP, and coupled with good target selection an untwinked melee can still chain kills without downtime.

3) I can't speak on behalf of Really Useful Poster Lhance, but I'd say the intention is to maximise PP without sacrificing XP. Hence my example of decayed skeletons over moss snakes. And again, bonechips are pretty easy to shift out in the field. Ask passing necromancers, cold call based on /who all, auction in zone. Or again, double duty your EC time.

4) Agreed, but many find handouts distatesful. I'm happy with a 20-50pp 10/25 weapon on a melee for a long time. P1999 newbs are spoiled for weapons. Hell, on one of my war alts I picked up a Fist of Zek for entry level plat. Looted armour is more than enough (I soloed a dark elf war on red to 40 in raw hide armor). If I were to stockpile a couple of hundred early on I'd invest in hp/ac rings. Otherwise I'd sit on that cash and save for haste gloves.

5) Seems a lot to me too. If you get a rusty 2 hander early on you can tear up north ro 1-hit killing for xp and loot, but still 500 is ambitious. 100 stacks of bone chips in 120 mins would be 1 chip looted every 3.6 seconds (assuming 5pp per stack). Assuming you aren't vendoring weapons/bags/armor.

[Amyas]

Find a camp that drops gems or FS/Bronze.

[Jimjam]

I found guk spiders to be pretty decent cash because they drop many low weight stackable gems worth several gold, or even plat, each. Even the silks vendor decently if you are anti EC like me.

[Amyas]

The sisters in lesser fay are more than likely one of the best lowbie cash camps.

[Jimjam]

Any of the lesser fay bandit camps are great, really, not just sisters.

On Red I would charm one of the non-sister bandits, invis it, run it to the sister camp to shank the sister farmer and take their money. I don't know if people still do L Fay on red, but it worked for me!

[Amyas]

Any of the lesser fay bandit camps are great, really, not just sisters.

On Red I would charm one of the non-sister bandits, invis it, run it to the sister camp to shank the sister farmer and take their money. I don't know if people still do L Fay on red, but it worked for me!

lol evil

[IgglooV2]

I met a druid the other day who told me selling morning dew was a good early-game money making strategy. Perhaps my foraging is not high enough, but I have not found it easy to get this stuff. I have only gotten one so far.

[Jimjam]

lol evil

Yes, red used to be a great place to play at low levels.

Once we formed a highway robber crew. 3 of us would walk up on sisters and demand 'your money or your life'.

One time, someone didn't give us their money, so we killed them and took it. Not long later, a level 1 high elf wizard flew past us (we had started farming sisters) followed by a horde of kos dark elf npcs!

We had got trained!

Being irregular red players, we didn't realise it wasn't in the culture of the server to petition. So we petitioned. Never saw the guy we strung up or that level 1 wizard again. Whoops.

Anyway, Red was awesome for low level hijinx, but that got killed when the accelerated xp got added in.

[Jblank1972]

I met a druid the other day who told me selling morning dew was a good early-game money making strategy. Perhaps my foraging is not high enough, but I have not found it easy to get this stuff. I have only gotten one so far.

They are pretty rare, but they do sell for good money.

[mattydef]

I leveled my first char (a monk) and started making a decent business with DF belts in my 20s. I would go to Sro and slaughter orcs for a couple hours and go back to ec and sell 100+ belts then just rinse and repeat. After that I leveled in sol A from 25-43 or so, collecting a good amount of money while doing so (buying fbss and a few other items). After a few more levels and getting epic I went back to sol A and farmed goblins and got a ton of charred guardian shields/impskin gloves/molten cloaks/lava pendants and those items pre Velious sold for a good amount. After about 2 weeks I made about 50k and bought my level 3 shaman his epic.

[scrapiron7]

I've got 5 Polar Bear skins for sale. I've had them almost 2 weeks and there's no interest in them.

[Nagoya]

I leveled my first char (a monk) and started making a decent business with DF belts in my 20s. I would go to Sro and slaughter orcs for a couple hours and go back to ec and sell 100+ belts then just rinse and repeat. After that I leveled in sol A from 25-43 or so, collecting a good amount of money while doing so (buying fbss and a few other items). After a few more levels and getting epic I went back to sol A and farmed goblins and got a ton of charred guardian shields/impskin gloves/molten cloaks/lava pendants and those items pre Velious sold for a good amount. After about 2 weeks I made about 50k and bought my level 3 shaman his epic.

8x hand-made backpack full of DS belts minus 2 slots for food/drink is 78 belts... how can you sell 100+ each couple hours? I loved Sro orcs for that same reason (and they are always open) but I sense some exaggeration in your post.

[gprater]

Qeynos guide: Step 1. Leave Qeynos, get to Freeport

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terrible advice if you are wanting what the OP asked for. "money early on"

qeynos and connecting zones are the best in the game for early plat. Its the land of opportunity. pelts from rabid animals 2-4 plat(always drops), kill the gnoll hunter in QH every chance you get, the quest completion can get you up to 8 plat ( but it is random). bandit sashes and bronze weapons ( this is the worst of the 3 but still good.) i can make more money with rabid animals than bandit sashes. moving on to NK kill wisps for GLS and do quest and sell book for 10plat a pop.


start in Qeynos and don't leave the Karanas until you've become a junior tycoon. I stopped at this message.....sorry if someone said the same thing deeper in the thread.