Pantheon... only $1000 to access Pre-Alpha

[Daloon]

What are you waiting for? For a small fee of $1000 you can be in Pantheon soon.

[Kowalski]

Awesome, they have a payment plan...

[Lulz~Sect]

https://i.imgur.com/oQCKBb4.jpg

[Cecily]

Cash grab for one last coke frenzy before game fails.

[Lulz~Sect]

https://i.imgur.com/8SusmoH.png

[Baler]

Hope it does well.

[Evia]

Cash grab for one last coke frenzy before game fails.



I laughed hard. Exactly my thoughts.
I really want to believe this game is different but history seems to be repeating itself. This reminds me of the vanguard development days too much.

I hope I'm wrong....we need a real eq2.

[Argh]

I always see people say things along the lines of 'I won't donate money to Pantheon because it's going to go up Brad's nose.' Why? Dude being high as fuck led to EQ being amazing.

I'd donate cocaine if I could.

[Baler]

Alternatively you could donate $1000 to P99! :)
Help feed the hamsters that power the server!

[loramin]

I always see people say things along the lines of 'I won't donate money to Pantheon because it's going to go up Brad's nose.' Why? Dude being high as fuck led to EQ being amazing.

I'd donate cocaine if I could.

While I think there's probably some truth to that, the problem is that there's like a Ballmer's peak of cocaine, and Brad doesn't seem to be very good at hitting it.

https://i.imgur.com/nLbUI.png

[Skew]

Cash grab for one last coke frenzy before game fails.

U forgot the hookers.

[Oleris]

Waiting for beta with my $150 pledge.

[Lulz~Sect]

https://i.imgur.com/XIc2edI.jpg

[aaezil]

man 1 million dollars for cocaine from fundraising... Game better be one hell of a trip

[Mead]

See you in beta Oleris

[Lhancelot]

Hope it does well.

I agree! ^

Alternatively you could donate $1000 to P99! :)
Help feed the hamsters that power the server!

Then as soon as I start to like you, you spout something like this... ^

Such a sycophant, Baler. :rolleyes:

[Priceline]

Hope it does well.

the mmo glory days are long gone, this will be a shit show.

the man with the powder caked nose can pledge all he wants about this "subscription" game but 100% chance it will have a cash shop, it will have pre-order/release/alpha/beta/early access p2w bullshit.

https://i.imgur.com/0hxlqq3.jpg

and don't forget the loot crates

[Daloon]

I personally don't care if they sell cosmetics if it means the game can thrive. If people are addicted to something they should have a way to spend more than some casual scum's $15/m.

[Spyder73]

Awesome, they have a payment plan...

Low T poster thinks $1,000 is selling soul - However Pantheon will fail badly due to expectations

[ErlickBachman]

the mmo glory days are long gone, this will be a shit show.

the man with the powder caked nose can pledge all he wants about this "subscription" game but 100% chance it will have a cash shop, it will have pre-order/release/alpha/beta/early access p2w bullshit.

and don't forget the loot crates

I mean when you think about it, it kinda already has a cash shop on the website with the "Pledges," especially if you pay $150+. Of course, I didn't really think about it in that light before I pledged my $300. While I've been trying to stay optimistic about this game, now I'm starting to have regrets about it after reading a general consensus on this thread. I really hope this game ends up being spectacular, but I can't help but to think now that its gonna blow.

[Lhancelot]

I mean when you think about it, it kinda already has a cash shop on the website with the "Pledges," especially if you pay $150+. Of course, I didn't really think about it in that light before I pledged my $300. While I've been trying to stay optimistic about this game, now I'm starting to have regrets about it after reading a general consensus on this thread. I really hope this game ends up being spectacular, but I can't help but to think now that its gonna blow.

I been burned by the hype of new MMOs in the past so many times I find it hard to put any faith into any potential new MMO.

I don't even believe they coming out till it's on the market and being played.

That being said, don't take what forumquesters post! FFS man! They know as much as you do!

I never let word of mouth influence my hopes and dreams, my internal thoughts are pessimistic enough!

Never listen to the peanut gallery bro. Never!

[Mistle]

I can't help but to think now that its gonna blow.

Heh heh. Blow.

[Cecily]

Nice.

[One Tin Soldier]

$1000.00 for pre-alpha. Now that's how you milk a whale.

[Evia]

I am doing 1,000/a month for my custom dungeon. I am gonna remake black burrow


300 a month or 3000 for custom dungeon. Id remake sebilis!

[maskedmelonpai]

i don't liek their artwork :f I recently read their halfling spiel and am pretty disappointed with that too. they look dumb and aren't halflings. if you gonna reimagine something, tweak it, but if you gonna redefine fundamental aspects of it, call iit something else. half longs do t live in trees and aren't savage nature loving fighters. im sure if i read more the updates I could find more to complain about specially since im in a complainin mood, but overall im disappointed :c

[AzzarTheGod]

i don't liek their artwork :f I recently read their halfling spiel and am pretty disappointed with that too. they look dumb and aren't halflings. if you gonna reimagine something, tweak it, but if you gonna redefine fundamental aspects of it, call iit something else. half longs do t live in trees and aren't savage nature loving fighters. im sure if i read more the updates I could find more to complain about specially since im in a complainin mood, but overall im disappointed :c

this. we think alike and many more of my best dawgs irl have stated the art work is junkhouse.

*daps melon*

[Lhancelot]

i don't liek their artwork :f I recently read their halfling spiel and am pretty disappointed with that too. they look dumb and aren't halflings.

Exactly this. ^

I have no idea how they came up with this weirdo model design for halflings, my god they look like pre-pubescent kids if the art I seen is accurate.

Totally not digging that one bit.

I am assuming some people relate that kind of art to anime and enjoy character models that appear that way, but to me it just doesn't fit the rest of the game at all.

[loramin]

To me they look like they were inspired by the halflings from TSR's old Dark Sun world. Dark Sun was far from classic fantasy though: in fact it was almost like a cyberpunk-styled fantasy world.

https://imgur.com/lo9HS01.jpg
(Pantheon)

https://i.imgur.com/jotoWC5.jpg
(Dark Sun)

https://imgur.com/15Bkzz9.gif
(Also Dark Sun)

[Jimjam]

Is it a satire on 80s throwback kids born post y2k?

[Sage Truthbearer]

The art direction in Pantheon is not standard high fantasy like in EQ. We aren't going to get Tolkien's halflings smoking pipes with hairy feet. There's a lot more sci-fi elements blended in. Whether that's for better or worse we'll have to see.

[ErlickBachman]

Heh heh. Blow.

I see what you did there :cool:

[xKoopa]

That looks closer to some kind of anime elf than a halfling..

Actually pretty disappointing if thats real

[Pokesan]

To me they look like they were inspired by the halflings from TSR's old Dark Sun world. Dark Sun was far from classic fantasy though: in fact it was almost like a cyberpunk-styled fantasy world.

https://imgur.com/lo9HS01.jpg
(Pantheon)



MOAR BELTS EVERYTHING MUST BE BELTS

https://i.imgur.com/9oIsfw7.jpg

[dcbone86]

To me they look like they were inspired by the halflings from TSR's old Dark Sun world. Dark Sun was far from classic fantasy though: in fact it was almost like a cyberpunk-styled fantasy world.

[IMG]https://imgur.com/lo9HS01.jpg[IMG]
(Pantheon)

[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/jotoWC5.jpg[IMG]
(Dark Sun)

[IMG]https://imgur.com/15Bkzz9.gif[IMG]
(Also Dark Sun)

How is Dark Sun cyberpunk?

[loramin]

How is Dark Sun cyberpunk?

That's not what I said; what I said was that it was that it was:

almost like a cyberpunk-styled fantasy world.

Dark Sun was a dark, gritty, and "punk-ish" variation of traditional fantasy in the same way that cyberpunk was a dark/gritty/punk-ish departure from traditional sci-fi. Obviously there was no cyberpunk technology, but magic took it's place. For instance, in cyberpunk a central theme is the idea that technology is not universally good, but in fact has a dark side which is destroying the world. Athas (the Dark Sun world) was literally destroyed by magic, specifically by wizard-kings (who are somewhat analogous to cyberpunk corporations).

There's more too, like Dark Sun's visual aesthetic (which is clearly punk-influenced, and is far more cyberpunk than steampunk or some other punk sub-genre) ... but I'm not going to say that Dark Sun was cyberpunk, because it wasn't; it was just "almost ... cyberpunk-styled".

[Lhancelot]

To me they look like they were inspired by the halflings from TSR's old Dark Sun world. Dark Sun was far from classic fantasy though: in fact it was almost like a cyberpunk-styled fantasy world.

https://imgur.com/lo9HS01.jpg
(Pantheon)

https://i.imgur.com/jotoWC5.jpg
(Dark Sun)

https://imgur.com/15Bkzz9.gif
(Also Dark Sun)

I see what you mean (kinda) but I think you are being very generous in correlating those pics.

I agree with the guy above, these halflings look like anime elfs, and that is weird to me. Usually I like weird, but not anime elf weird.

This is crossing a line of weirdness I just can't wrap my head around.

Kind of reminds me of gnomes on WOW, but I was able to tolerate them back then I guess because I was younger and could still see them as dorky little cute gnome things.

Pantheon's halflings just seem to have zero connection to what you think of when you read the word halfling.

[Pyrion]

I would have prefered old style halflings as well. But at the same time i am open to new ideas, will check in game if they do make sense. I agree that they should have named them different. Like they did with the dark elf replacement, the dark myr.

[LostCause]

i rather play vanguard emulator then that shit atm


too bad pop is dead since there is alot of work to do still.

[AzzarTheGod]

i rather play vanguard emulator then that shit atm


too bad pop is dead since there is alot of work to do still.

im hoping VG emu pulls through down the road. they got a lot of good guys working on it.

[Lhancelot]

I would have prefered old style halflings as well. But at the same time i am open to new ideas, will check in game if they do make sense. I agree that they should have named them different. Like they did with the dark elf replacement, the dark myr.

Yes, I still wouldn't like them, but a different name would be better.

They shouldn't sully the halfling name and history of the race from Everquest if they are going to transform the image of a halfling into whatever this thing is.

Perhaps it won't look as silly and childish in the game. Hopefully.

[YmirEQ]

i’d pay 1,000 for project 1999 to reset the servers and make two blue servers to break up the crazy pop

[YmirEQ]

but in reality everyone, this is going to be the closest thing to the old school MMO as your going to get, genuinely.

[Jimjam]

Yes, I still wouldn't like them, but a different name would be better.

They shouldn't sully the halfling name and history of the race from Everquest if they are going to transform the image of a halfling into whatever this thing is.

Perhaps it won't look as silly and childish in the game. Hopefully.

Sound more like forest goblin or perhaps sprite/brownie?

[Lhancelot]

Sound more like forest goblin or perhaps sprite/brownie?

I like "Forest Goblin" lol.

[sereal]

did brad ever actually admit to the nose clams? or is it just hearsay?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RuyuiBkrX8

They really need to work on their PR. If you read their FAQ there are all sorts of minor grammar mistakes and many parts could be reworded for clarity.

It should be interesting as people start seeing the alpha and how playable it is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ae-1KuAvMY

[skarlorn]

i’d pay 1,000 for project 1999 to reset the servers and make two blue servers to break up the crazy pop

I'd pay 1,000 for project 1999 to prove that skyrim doesn't belong to the nordz

[Valakut]

poor people who play on a free elf emulator complaining about paying money for video games

nothing to see here, move along

[SamwiseRed]

ya ok mister food stamps

[Grizzler]

I'm still looking forward to the game coming out. They've already said all art assests are placeholder. Time will tell how true that is. Nothing else is getting me excited except for CU so I will wait and see how Pantheon moves from here.

[sereal]

whats 'CU' ?

[Phenyo]

You'd have to have brain rot to buy into this

[Cwall 146.0]

whats 'CU' ?

camelot unchained

[Grizzler]

You'd have to have brain rot to buy into this

I dunno, I see the appeal. I haven't yet, myself, as I agree a lot on the issues with the animations and graphics. I also wonder, after trying out VG, if some of the mechanic ideas could be implemented poorly or just out of reach for a team this small to hit the mark which is how I feel VG was done.

Overall, Pantheon is what made me join P99 as it was a bunch of fans of the game during original kickstarter that made a guild here and started playing from a fan site. I'll keep watching and if it gets to a point that I love it maybe I will buy alpha/beta pack. I get why folks would be willing to throw money at it, even just for the idea. All depends on the amount of money your willing to wager.

[Raavak]

Can you have pixel sex in Pantheon?

[Ket]

The Halfling animation is what's being bitched about now? Jesus H. Jimminy Cricket, ya buncha whiners.

[skarlorn]

Can you have pixel sex in Pantheon?

We will figure something out =)

[Lhancelot]

The Halfling animation is what's being bitched about now? Jesus H. Jimminy Cricket, ya buncha whiners.

Do you like how the halfling model looks on Pantheon?

[Ket]

I don't have an opinion one way or the other on their aesthetics. Never wanted to play as a halfling in mmo's from the past, so I don't have a dog in that fight. If I had to make a decision, I'd say yes, I do like them. They look more like Kender from Dragonlance than the traditional halfling, and I don't see a problem with that.

What I do know is thank god there is someone at least TRYING to go a different direction on these tired races; and even if I hated the halfling models, it is a silly reason to not try a game.

I'm surprised there isn't more bitching going on about the gnomes.

[Jimjam]

I don't have an opinion one way or the other on their aesthetics. Never wanted to play as a halfling in mmo's from the past

You do have a dog in the fight. All the best MMO playsters roll halflings, so you need your Gods to be of a pleasing appearance.:D

[Grizzler]

Honestly, I'm just happy to see a newer game with EQ style gameplay. Just hoping it works. I get the gnome argument but I still think it's worth a try.

[Lhancelot]

I don't have an opinion one way or the other on their aesthetics. Never wanted to play as a halfling in mmo's from the past, so I don't have a dog in that fight. If I had to make a decision, I'd say yes, I do like them. They look more like Kender from Dragonlance than the traditional halfling, and I don't see a problem with that.

What I do know is thank god there is someone at least TRYING to go a different direction on these tired races; and even if I hated the halfling models, it is a silly reason to not try a game.

I'm surprised there isn't more bitching going on about the gnomes.

I think the halflings look way too childish, that won't stop me from trying Pantheon. I am just highly disappointed. With the aesthetics of the Pantheon gnomes, I am not as offended. Sure, the gnomes look weird, but that's fine they look unique. The Pantheon halflings really look stupid to me. Maybe in the game they will be better. :rolleyes:

[citizen1080]

EQ asslings and gnomes have always been ugly. Hooray for change! And I agree that Pantheons look more like Kender, which I think is a vast improvement.

[trite]

the original everquest model isn't viable anymore....if any game is any good, it will be purchased and an in game store will be patched in .... in game content that's where the cash is, not subscription fees

[skarlorn]

I would be okay with a higher sub fee. Lord knows I paid 15 a month back in 2000 for eq, and there has definitely been inflation since then. Plus I'm not an unemployed teenager.

Keeping sub at 15 a month is ultimately crippling

[Ket]

I would be okay with a higher sub fee. Lord knows I paid 15 a month back in 2000 for eq, and there has definitely been inflation since then. Plus I'm not an unemployed teenager.

Keeping sub at 15 a month is ultimately crippling

Agreed. I'd pay quite a bit more for a quality game with a monthly sub, and something that makes me burn in my loins the way EQ did in 99.

[maskedmelon]

MOAR BELTS EVERYTHING MUST BE BELTS

https://i.imgur.com/9oIsfw7.jpg

can you imagine the time it would take to put that on? or take it off? what if you had to pee?

[Daloon]

They arent going to raise the monthly fee on a game with a few thousand followers to begin with.

[Ssouky]

They arent going to raise the monthly fee on a game with a few thousand followers to begin with.

Why not ?
I'd rather pay 50 a month for a quality game, being maintained and improved, on solid servers than a 15 on a released pre alpha with "extensions" which are actually missing part of the game at launch. It's never about the price. It's about what you get for the money you pay.

[Grizzler]

New stream coming for any who are interested. Nov 21.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PantheonMMO/comments/7dejpw/dont_miss_the_making_of_a_city_twitch_stream/?ref=share&ref_source=link

[Elrood]

$15 back in 2000 is about $22 today. Add to that the probability that Pantheon's player base is likely to be older than EverQuest's circa 2000, I think they could easily charge $20-$25 a month and probably should.

[citizen1080]

$15 back in 2000 is about $22 today. Add to that the probability that Pantheon's player base is likely to be older than EverQuest's circa 2000, I think they could easily charge $20-$25 a month and probably should.

While I would gladly pay 30 bucks a month or more for a game that really captures EQ. But that would be consigning it to a slow death right off the bat. Not everyone has that to spare each month, and most people are not going to risk a new game with that high of a price tag unless they know they are going to like it, or are willing to give it the benefit of the doubt like those of us here.

What I WOULD like to see are free2play servers and pay2play servers ala stormwhateverthefuckitwas back in the day. I would gladly pay a premium to stay away from the free2play 12 year olds spamming chuck norris jokes and cuck all day long.

This would appease both groups IMO. We get a good player experience, but the devs get more exposure and money from that.

[skarlorn]

Even if they upped the monthly sub to $20 (19.99) it would be good imo. 25% increase on the revenue vertical while still only being a few bucks more expensive.

Someone let Brad know I've given him the OK.

[burkemi5]

Most of us nerds are okay with 20 bucks a month... but that is pretty damn steep for someone on the fence. 40-60 box price plus 20 a month? Three months in you could have bought a game already, 60 is the standard price for new games these days. Fifteen a month is a good price, I would be surprised if it went higher.

[skarlorn]

i also think they should double the price of books. readers will pay. non-readers dno't buy books anyway. viva le resistance

[citizen1080]

i also think they should double the price of books. readers will pay. non-readers dno't buy books anyway. viva le resistance

What if i told you...



...you can pirate books

[loramin]

i also think they should double the price of books. readers will pay. non-readers dno't buy books anyway. viva le resistance

What if i told you...



...you can pirate books


It's like the man said: readers read books, and you can't pirate those. Well, I mean technically you can ...

https://i.imgur.com/sACIQdI.png

P.S. Loramin = Literature major = authority on topic

[citizen1080]

It's like the man said: readers read books, and you can't pirate those. Well, I mean technically you can ...

https://i.imgur.com/sACIQdI.png

P.S. Loramin = Literature major = authority on topic

My ipad has 2000-3000 books on it. Whether you believe i paid for any of said books is up to you =)

I do buy some books that i really like.

[skarlorn]

R u really bragging about not paying for books in 2017?

[hyejin]

i read books on my ps3 fat (it runs again after i put the motherboard in the oven) didnt pay for them neither

[citizen1080]

R u really bragging about not paying for books in 2017?

R u really triggered while you play on a EMU?

And I am not bragging, i'm saying its possible to pirate books.

[Lulz~Sect]

i remember bob the builder from when i was a wee forumquest lad

[Lulz~Sect]

*err broker

[Lhancelot]

R u really bragging about not paying for books in 2017?

I realize lots of people pirate books, movies, etc., personally I never do that. I feel it's a way to show appreciation to the people who created them by paying for them.

[loramin]

My ipad has 2000-3000 books on it. Whether you believe i paid for any of said books is up to you =)

I do buy some books that i really like.

It might just be semantics, but my point was that you don't really pirate books, you pirate e-books. When the Kindle came out years ago everyone thought it would kill off paper book stores, and yet they're still around even today precisely because lots of people believe books > e-books.

To me, if you want a true book experience you can't pirate it ... well unless you go to some third world country that actually prints pirate copies.

[Mistle]

It's kind of a douchy thing to pirate books. Books aren't like movies or computer games. Many to most authors barely scrape by on what they make. The GRRMs and Rowlings of the world are few and far between. If people don't buy their books, they can't afford to write, and we end up with less books to read.

[Grizzler]

Most Recent stream from the 21st.

https://youtu.be/kz_29h3_Npw

[Jimjam]

This is a really nerdy way to take this convo, but I guess I am in the right place, I used to see a lot of photocopied warhammer and DnD books.

[skarlorn]

sick avatar btw jimjam

[Jimjam]

Can't argue with HRHTQ, especially when she dual wielding.

[Oleris]

Anyone playing the pre-alpha?

[aMindAmok]

. I would gladly pay a premium to stay away from the free2play 12 year olds spamming chuck norris jokes and cuck all day long.

Come on now. Chuck Norris jokes are classic af.

[AzzarTheGod]

*clothespin nose*


This game is stankin

[hyejin]

f5s pantheon.com furiously awaiting new updates

[Pokesan]

is hyejin big japan

aka the whale aka the zeitgeist

[hyejin]

since God took my hands and arms I have had no choice but to ask a loyal friend, colleague or supervisor each Friday night to inject my gluteus with sex hormone

[skarlorn]

Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen

^clearly a meta pop culture reference to Brad McQuaid's supposed "Rise" after his "falling" into crack abuse and failure. NOT actually abt the game.

This is utter trash:

HALFLINGS
A fiery, youthful race, filled with mirth, recklessness and charm — but the exuberance of the Halflings masks an ancient curse.

how 2 b a young race with ancient curse? Halflings with an edgy backstory is lame.

Their website copy is clearly crack-induced babble of 8 nerds in a cuddle puddle

[Lhancelot]

Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen

^clearly a meta pop culture reference to Brad McQuaid's supposed "Rise" after his "falling" into crack abuse and failure. NOT actually abt the game.

This is utter trash:

HALFLINGS
A fiery, youthful race, filled with mirth, recklessness and charm — but the exuberance of the Halflings masks an ancient curse.

how 2 b a young race with ancient curse? Halflings with an edgy backstory is lame.

Their website copy is clearly crack-induced babble of 8 nerds in a cuddle puddle

What's up with their obsession with making youth be the focal point of the halfling race?

Whether it's the age of the race or the actual physical appearance of halflings looking like early teen elfs it's fucking awful.