30 necro need some new ideas for XP!

[Lhancelot]

Tired of MM, UR, SP/SK.... want to try some new spots! Anyone got any ideas?

I did Warrens from 20-24 and lowbie kobold camps in Stonebrunt from 24-29, found that Stonebrunt is a bit rough I need some more lvls to hold down the bigger kobold camp that has the lvl 25-26 kobolds...

So for now Stonebrunt out of the question. I know about OOT sisters, might do them a bit till I find somewhere new to go. Thanks!

[Jmcwrestling]

It may a bit rough before 34 but nurga exit hall is good fun and gives Chardok faction

Halfling guards at the middle wall in misty are great xp and cash at your level , like 2-3% a kill even , just watch out for ella food crafter

[Lhancelot]

It may a bit rough before 34 but nurga exit hall is good fun and gives Chardok faction

Halfling guards at the middle wall in misty are great xp and cash at your level , like 2-3% a kill even , just watch out for ella food crafter

Thanks I didn't even consider Nurga. Will go check it out!

[Izmael]

Sythrax in FoB. Use search to find my posts about it.

[Jmcwrestling]

My best tips for nurga exit hall:

1. You'll be tempted to start in that nook near the tents with the 2 mobs, but don't do it. There's no space to deal with the inevitable casters. Invis your way past the first triple spawn and down the hallway just before the big ramp. You can single pull them all if you start with the one immediately in front of you and then the one to your left (if standing in the dip before the hallway I was talking about) then finally the one across.

2. Try to always re-fear early to avoid getting nuked or dotted by the casters.

3. Moss troopers harm touch so be extra careful.

4. The mob at the top of the 2nd ramp should be pet pulled , followed by screaming terror and then finally snared.

5. Slinkers backstab

6. Slinkers and whipcrackers can reliably be rooted and don't cast.

7. I found it was most efficient to fear kite with a progression of dooming darkness -> fear -> vampiric curse -> venom of the snake - refear with 1 second left to spare.
I wouldn't bother with heat blood (whatever yours is currently) as they have no hit points at all and with drop like rocks with venom of the snake. Once the goblin hits 50% , swap out dooming with engulfing in case you need to resnare to save mana, and lifetap with your vampiric curse as needed.

Hope this helps !

[Pyrion]

I always like frontier mountains. Just /con the giants, some tumbs are up to 31. Or better even, make a small group. Giants do drop some nice things from time to time, so usually the camp will get you a decent amount of cash.

[thebutthat]

I always enjoyed Crystal Caverns from 30-45. Start at entrance way orcs. Around 35 or so you can move past the dwarf city to the first big room with terrors. The terrors will get you through to 39 or so. 40-45 I started on the Geo's.

Fun zone, some items that drops for a 100p here and there (maybe even upgrades if it's your first toon). Down falls for this zone is rez chances are very unlikely and the tunnels can be pretty confusing to learn. But as for a Velious zone, it's pretty easy.

[Lhancelot]

My best tips for nurga exit hall:

1. You'll be tempted to start in that nook near the tents with the 2 mobs, but don't do it. There's no space to deal with the inevitable casters. Invis your way past the first triple spawn and down the hallway just before the big ramp. You can single pull them all if you start with the one immediately in front of you and then the one to your left (if standing in the dip before the hallway I was talking about) then finally the one across.

2. Try to always re-fear early to avoid getting nuked or dotted by the casters.

3. Moss troopers harm touch so be extra careful.

4. The mob at the top of the 2nd ramp should be pet pulled , followed by screaming terror and then finally snared.

5. Slinkers backstab

6. Slinkers and whipcrackers can reliably be rooted and don't cast.

7. I found it was most efficient to fear kite with a progression of dooming darkness -> fear -> vampiric curse -> venom of the snake - refear with 1 second left to spare.
I wouldn't bother with heat blood (whatever yours is currently) as they have no hit points at all and with drop like rocks with venom of the snake. Once the goblin hits 50% , swap out dooming with engulfing in case you need to resnare to save mana, and lifetap with your vampiric curse as needed.

Hope this helps !

Thanks for the description of the zone ad how you pull this area I appreciate it.

I never did CC either, so I got a few places to check out thanks all for your recommendations!

I have a 23 chanter, and my 30 necro so I will be flipping back and forth, I imagine I will be able to hit all these locations on one or the other then.

***I have done FM giants, it is pretty decent xp and quiet usually.

[Tann]

as the others have said Sythrax in FoB, Gobbies in Nurga, both great.

Sythrax be warned, these mobs are undercons and your pet will get perished often. resists are terrible as well, even at 34 or 35 when I left i was getting 3-4 darkness/fear resists in a row at times.

[Izmael]

They are undercons, and that's the whole point. You need to charm them.

[Spyder73]

I found Charming pre-paralyzing earth to be a gawd awful sh!tfest due to inconsistencies in root and charm seeming to not be as effective as it is 50+ (mainly it is that root sucks though)

Be warned that you will die many times learning the ins and outs of charming...Its honestly a lot easier to duo with someone so you don't have to worry about switching charms and low life ect ect and I personally wouldn't recommend it until level 49 because that's when you get god mode root (spoiler: you need to root mobs when charming in order to no instantly die while in tight quarters)

[Boyblunder]

Does negative MR gear help to keep charmed necro pets charmed?

[Jmcwrestling]

Does negative MR gear help to keep charmed necro pets charmed?

Yes

[Baler]

Does negative MR gear help to keep charmed necro pets charmed?

Negative MR gear helps druid charms and necro charms.
CHA has no affect for these two class's charms.

[ghost182]

I quite like charming in the 30s and 40s. tOfs and kaesora are the places I like.

[Izmael]

I found Charming pre-paralyzing earth to be a gawd awful sh!tfest due to inconsistencies in root and charm seeming to not be as effective as it is 50+ (mainly it is that root sucks though)

This isn't totally correct.

I've charm exped on a necro from about level 20 up and it wasn't hard at all. Matter of fact, it was trivial.

The key is to do it outdoors, only charm blues, and have Jboots or SoW potions. You don't need to root anything if you can just outrun stuff to recast a charm or FD.

Of course, 55+ necro charming is best done in HS and then outrunning stuff isn't gonna work, but you have other tools by then.


From 2x (forgot... might be 20) to 30 you can go to LOIO, find the 4 static skele spawns in a ruin south of the zone and make a level / hour there until you hit 30. It's trivial and really hard to die.
Charm a skel, get others to beat him down to 5%, break charm, spam lifetap on ex-pet until it goes off, refresh GCD with jboots, FD. Wait for others to walk away far enough to be out of their aggro range, stand up, rince repeat.

There are a few roamers there but it isn't hard to see them (we're outdoors), it's easy to outrun them, and they can actually help beating your pet down if it's the last mob in the ruins.

You need zero gear for this other than Jboots and ideally a CoS.


At 30, if you have jboots, and only in this case (or sow pots), go to FoB and do the Sythrax's, same strategy applies. Only difference is that you have less room to play with, you'll need to strafe-run + Jboots in order to survive. They are also pretty fast. They have high MR so they will break charm a lot. That's fine, you only need charm to last like 5 seconds. Your pet will be within 5% of its HPs really fast because these mobs ain't no jokers.

You will be 40 in a day. Some HP's here will actually be helpful because the mobs will cast a lot of instacast small (30ish DD) nukes on you. They don't hurt too much but if you're untwinked you'll have to pay attention to that somewhat.

At 40 I suggest you go to CoM and start owning stuff there, it's necro charm paradise. Mostly undead mobs, outdoors, can use pathing to your advantage.

At 54 just go to HS and never leave the place. You can go there earlier, probably as early as ... 47 (don't think I ever saw a mob in the basement that resisted Beguile Undead which is capped at 46), but sometimes you'll have live mobs to kill without undead to charm and it will suck. Also having Deflux (lvl 54) is a big quality of life improvement.

As far as KC is concerned... Cleric and Shaman undead mobs... yuck. Kaesora also has plenty of undead clerics which I never found fun to exp off.

[Lulz~Sect]

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[Llodd]

Kaesora all the way when you hit 39. Takes a lil while to figure the zone out, but once you do and get in those tunnels otw to library the xp is insane. It's possible to fearkite too down the tunnels once you have them cleared. You can do it before 39 but was rough. Interesting zone. And you can probably pick up a rotting HS key bit.

Hands down best zem at that level in this game.

ToFs would be interesting too I imagine.

[demonith]

I always had fun camping Treants in SK. can be pretty challenging and great exp and lewts. also a vendor nearby the centaur stables. only downer is that is a super camped.

[Endorra]

At 34 when you get root, do the top room of the tower in Unrest. 2 hags on a 6-7 minute spawn time and one named/ph in the middle on a longer timer. Once you get it broken you can just root/pet attack/undead nuke spam the hags as soon as they spawn and the xp is amazing.

[Lhancelot]

This isn't totally correct.

I've charm exped on a necro from about level 20 up and it wasn't hard at all. Matter of fact, it was trivial.

The key is to do it outdoors, only charm blues, and have Jboots or SoW potions. You don't need to root anything if you can just outrun stuff to recast a charm or FD.

Of course, 55+ necro charming is best done in HS and then outrunning stuff isn't gonna work, but you have other tools by then.


From 2x (forgot... might be 20) to 30 you can go to LOIO, find the 4 static skele spawns in a ruin south of the zone and make a level / hour there until you hit 30. It's trivial and really hard to die.
Charm a skel, get others to beat him down to 5%, break charm, spam lifetap on ex-pet until it goes off, refresh GCD with jboots, FD. Wait for others to walk away far enough to be out of their aggro range, stand up, rince repeat.

There are a few roamers there but it isn't hard to see them (we're outdoors), it's easy to outrun them, and they can actually help beating your pet down if it's the last mob in the ruins.

You need zero gear for this other than Jboots and ideally a CoS.


At 30, if you have jboots, and only in this case (or sow pots), go to FoB and do the Sythrax's, same strategy applies. Only difference is that you have less room to play with, you'll need to strafe-run + Jboots in order to survive. They are also pretty fast. They have high MR so they will break charm a lot. That's fine, you only need charm to last like 5 seconds. Your pet will be within 5% of its HPs really fast because these mobs ain't no jokers.

You will be 40 in a day. Some HP's here will actually be helpful because the mobs will cast a lot of instacast small (30ish DD) nukes on you. They don't hurt too much but if you're untwinked you'll have to pay attention to that somewhat.

At 40 I suggest you go to CoM and start owning stuff there, it's necro charm paradise. Mostly undead mobs, outdoors, can use pathing to your advantage.

At 54 just go to HS and never leave the place. You can go there earlier, probably as early as ... 47 (don't think I ever saw a mob in the basement that resisted Beguile Undead which is capped at 46), but sometimes you'll have live mobs to kill without undead to charm and it will suck. Also having Deflux (lvl 54) is a big quality of life improvement.

As far as KC is concerned... Cleric and Shaman undead mobs... yuck. Kaesora also has plenty of undead clerics which I never found fun to exp off.

Hey Izmael, I am curious where you XP from 10 to 30, you seem to like off the beaten track paths for XP, what do you do on your lowbies?

[LaZZlow]

Have you tried fear kiting specs in Feerrott?

[Crawdad]

Guards in West Commons are almost always camped, but the Druids are a better choice imo. Right next to the rings so you can bum a PotG/Regen/SoW easily. They drop 2x FS and gems pretty frequently.

East Freeport guards are another option, near the wood elf's cart and pond. One static and two wandering. Avoid Kroon until you get higher.

Deputies in Rivervale are another easy option. Inside and outside RV are usually camped though.

Ry'Gorr fortress is always open and has tons of mobs for the high 30s. Just avoid going anywhere near the chief's room.

I think all of these options are less optimal than SK Treants from 30-36, but if you're already burned out of SK then try the above.


Killing guards is a big perq for being evil, double points for usually being AFK-friendly camps. Enjoy being a baddie I say.

[Kalamurv]

ToFS and Kaesora were great for charm xp...don't forget Lower Guk dead side is also great xp and super easy to charm

[Whirled]

I'm not sure if you mentioned if race or faction matter; but there's a bard South West corner of Western Plains of Karana (http://wiki.project1999.com/index.php?title=Western_Plains_of_Karana&redirect=no). Seller in zone.
Avoid barbarian lady in little hut south side of #13 barbarian village. Kill Mistrana Two Notes (http://wiki.project1999.com/Mistrana_Two_Notes) and Ulrich McMannus


(http://wiki.project1999.com/Ulrich_McMannus)

[matjettta]

This isn't totally correct.

I've charm exped on a necro from about level 20 up and it wasn't hard at all. Matter of fact, it was trivial.

The key is to do it outdoors, only charm blues, and have Jboots or SoW potions. You don't need to root anything if you can just outrun stuff to recast a charm or FD.

Of course, 55+ necro charming is best done in HS and then outrunning stuff isn't gonna work, but you have other tools by then.


From 2x (forgot... might be 20) to 30 you can go to LOIO, find the 4 static skele spawns in a ruin south of the zone and make a level / hour there until you hit 30. It's trivial and really hard to die.
Charm a skel, get others to beat him down to 5%, break charm, spam lifetap on ex-pet until it goes off, refresh GCD with jboots, FD. Wait for others to walk away far enough to be out of their aggro range, stand up, rince repeat.

There are a few roamers there but it isn't hard to see them (we're outdoors), it's easy to outrun them, and they can actually help beating your pet down if it's the last mob in the ruins.

You need zero gear for this other than Jboots and ideally a CoS.


At 30, if you have jboots, and only in this case (or sow pots), go to FoB and do the Sythrax's, same strategy applies. Only difference is that you have less room to play with, you'll need to strafe-run + Jboots in order to survive. They are also pretty fast. They have high MR so they will break charm a lot. That's fine, you only need charm to last like 5 seconds. Your pet will be within 5% of its HPs really fast because these mobs ain't no jokers.

You will be 40 in a day. Some HP's here will actually be helpful because the mobs will cast a lot of instacast small (30ish DD) nukes on you. They don't hurt too much but if you're untwinked you'll have to pay attention to that somewhat.

At 40 I suggest you go to CoM and start owning stuff there, it's necro charm paradise. Mostly undead mobs, outdoors, can use pathing to your advantage.

At 54 just go to HS and never leave the place. You can go there earlier, probably as early as ... 47 (don't think I ever saw a mob in the basement that resisted Beguile Undead which is capped at 46), but sometimes you'll have live mobs to kill without undead to charm and it will suck. Also having Deflux (lvl 54) is a big quality of life improvement.

As far as KC is concerned... Cleric and Shaman undead mobs... yuck. Kaesora also has plenty of undead clerics which I never found fun to exp off.

Question for you - is there any way to break charm if you don't have a CoS? Specifically asking for the LOIO skelly strategy above.

Thanks!

[Whirled]

U mean like: Goblin Gazughi Ring (http://wiki.project1999.com/Goblin_Gazughi_Ring)

[Canelek]

Question for you - is there any way to break charm if you don't have a CoS? Specifically asking for the LOIO skelly strategy above.

Thanks!

Casting Invis or IVU will break charm, albeit not as quickly as a CoS or Gobby Ring. Racial hide also works, but only like 33% of the time.

[matjettta]

Thanks!

[Izmael]

Hey Izmael, I am curious where you XP from 10 to 30, you seem to like off the beaten track paths for XP, what do you do on your lowbies?

Bone chips + goblin ears to like 20. :)

If char faction disallows it, Kurn's tower has always been a highway for me from like 10 to 20.

From 20 to 30 lots of options open up and it will depend on your class really... For solo characters I like Najena because you can camp a single spawn and kill it every few minutes while doing work on the side, and it has uber ZEM.

[Izmael]

Question for you - is there any way to break charm if you don't have a CoS? Specifically asking for the LOIO skelly strategy above.

Thanks!

You can cast invis on yourself to break charm but your quality of life will suck.

Sell a kidney and buy a CoS ASAP if you really want to play a necro.

[matjettta]

You can cast invis on yourself to break charm but your quality of life will suck.

Sell a kidney and buy a CoS ASAP if you really want to play a necro.

Don't even know if my kidney would be worth 10kpp. Das a lotta cheddar.

[Lulz~Sect]

dinged 29 last night

anyone want to group tonight?

[Lulz~Sect]

OOT is great

basically its lfay sisters at 29

thx

[nina]

Anyone looked into the aviaks in OOT? They look like spicocs and are out of the way so might be good at high peak times

[beargryllz]

I actually grouped HHK goblins from 29-33

By 33 the exp slows down and you can either try soloing HHK guards (very dangerous) or do the toll booth camp in WC (much safer, super efficient)