View Full Version : Root...why is it garbage?
markcosmin
10-03-2017, 08:33 AM
Wiki says mob is 22 (little fisherman chick on OOT island)
I'm 24 sham.
Opened with malo (malaise) > walking sleep > then this occured...couldn't even dot once.
[Tue Oct 03 07:19:56 2017] You begin casting Root.
[Tue Oct 03 07:20:05 2017] You begin casting Root.
[Tue Oct 03 07:20:11 2017] You begin casting Root.
[Tue Oct 03 07:20:20 2017] You begin casting Root.
[Tue Oct 03 07:20:27 2017] You begin casting Root.
[Tue Oct 03 07:20:35 2017] You begin casting Root.
[Tue Oct 03 07:20:45 2017] You begin casting Root.
[Tue Oct 03 07:20:56 2017] You begin casting Root.
[Tue Oct 03 07:21:06 2017] You begin casting Root.
[Tue Oct 03 07:21:16 2017] You begin casting Root.
I'd root, move out of melee. It would break immediately, rinse repeat. Couldn't even cast anything else. She was blue (22) she spawns 22-24 (I was 24 on first pull) I died and went back and 23 and she's still blue.
the fuck?
Baler
10-03-2017, 09:25 AM
Root is garbage because it's unreliable. Server ticks happen very 6 seconds and root breaks are checked every server tick. So you could land your root 0.1 second before a server tick and it could break on that server tick. However if you are able to land root and it doesn't break instantly,. The -mr (malo) should help with the break checks.
And then sometimes the server just gives you the middle finger and says haha your spell was interrupted fk you hope you died this is p99 hardcore classic everquest bitch, haynar and nilbog say hello, to your corpse! *breaths deeply*
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I've leveled a shaman, I feel your pain. Just gotta roll with the punches and try not to make threads like this. You may draw unwanted attention from negative unhelpful people.
If you think there is a bug, post it in the bug section where they can't flame you. just saying,. Good luck!
Naethyn
10-03-2017, 09:34 AM
It could be nothing, but as a habit if I find root resisting I'll target myself and retarget the mob.
Freakish
10-03-2017, 12:23 PM
It's a product of your low level and mobs level compared to yours. When you play at low levels the range of monsters giving decent exp is small, typically 4-5 levels and anything lower is green. As you get higher this range expands and when you try to land spells on the lower range it is much more likely to succeed. At lvl 60 you would run into the exact same problem trying to root something lvl 58. It might land but it would be unreliable without malo and tash.
markcosmin
10-04-2017, 02:15 AM
So basically at 55 because I can kill a blue 45 that's and because he's 10 levels lower root will almost always last, but because i'm stuck to a 4 level range ATM there's a much higher chance (literally) that root breaks every tick. That's crazy.
Freakish
10-04-2017, 08:21 AM
Try killing things at the lower end of the blue spectrum for whatever your level is and you'll find a much easier time.
markcosmin
10-04-2017, 12:19 PM
Level 10+:
<.66: Green, with only high green giving XP
>.66 and <.73ish: Light blue
>.73 and <.9999999: Dark blue
Same level: White
Level + 1 and +2: Yellow
> Level + 2: Red
Until 15, Blue is the 2 levels under you.
From 15-24, Blue is the 4 levels under you.
From 25-34, Blue is the 5 levels under you.
From 35-44, Blue is the 7 levels under you.
From 45-54, Blue is the 9 levels under you.
From 55-60, Blue is the 15 levels under you.
????? this right? I've never seen a light blue but this is the info I found on it concerning p99.
All of this is extremely confusing considering the popular 'evil shaman guide' 'how to make money while leveling' etc guides will explicitly tell you sham, necro, enc, etc can start for example at sisters in OOT at 24. They are yellow at 24. What normal level 24 person is killing two yellow mobs at once? It's possible with 0 resists and root landing a decent amount of time, but it strictly does not. Especially not reliably enough to 'camp' the spot.
And before I see that 'git gud' garbage. I'm doing exactly what's expected. Open with malo > root > dot > dot > nuke }{ even on a mob 3~ levels below me (with malo on) we're talking an average of 2 resists per kill. 4 on a bad kill, 0 on a good. That's 50-65% mana per kill. That's with 1200 mana. Are people operating at 1500 mana with fungi's and clickies at level 20 or something? I don't get it.
Canelek
10-04-2017, 12:20 PM
Try killing things at the lower end of the blue spectrum for whatever your level is and you'll find a much easier time.
Tuurin
10-04-2017, 01:35 PM
Level 10+:
<.66: Green, with only high green giving XP
>.66 and <.73ish: Light blue
>.73 and <.9999999: Dark blue
Same level: White
Level + 1 and +2: Yellow
> Level + 2: Red
Until 15, Blue is the 2 levels under you.
From 15-24, Blue is the 4 levels under you.
From 25-34, Blue is the 5 levels under you.
From 35-44, Blue is the 7 levels under you.
From 45-54, Blue is the 9 levels under you.
From 55-60, Blue is the 15 levels under you.
????? this right? I've never seen a light blue but this is the info I found on it concerning p99.
Green part looks right, Blue wrong (do math over).
In terms of leveling, I can't see any reason to target yellows for leveling purposes unless you're in a group. Solo you'll almost always want to target dark blue mobs for the reasons you listed.
Raavak
10-04-2017, 01:42 PM
And then there is just the unlucky bounce of the RNG.
My exp night tends to end with a root break, charm break, and inevitable add all at once. Time to do something less stressful.
Pyrocat
10-04-2017, 03:26 PM
I was soloing a high blue con last night, cast Entill x3 times, each time it lasted less than 6 seconds and I died. So it goes with RNG, but anecdotely I agree with the other posters here that level difference makes a large difference on how long root (and charm) will hold. I assume that the targets MR also makes a difference, if it follows charm mechanics.
from the wiki Game Mechanics (https://wiki.project1999.com/Game_Mechanics#Consider_Color_Scalings_with_Level) page:
Character Levels 1 - 6
-4 and below GREEN - looks like a reasonably safe opponent
-1 to -3 BLUE - looks like you would have the upper hand
0 WHITE - looks like an even fight
+1 and +2 YELLOW - looks like quite a gamble
+3 and up RED - what would you like your tombstone to say?
Character Levels 7 - 12
-4 and below GREEN - looks like a reasonably safe opponent.
-1 to -3 BLUE - looks kind of risky, but you might win.
0, WHITE - looks kind of risky..you might win.
+1 and +2 YELLOW - looks like quite a gamble.
+3 and up RED - what would you like your tombstone to say?
Character Levels 13 - 14
-6 and below GREEN - looks like a reasonably safe opponent.
-4 and -5 BLUE - looks like you would have the upper hand.
-1 to -3 BLUE - looks kind of risky, but you might win.
0, WHITE - looks kind of risky..you might win.
+1 and +2 YELLOW - looks like quite a gamble.
+3 and up RED - what would you like your tombstone to say?
Character Levels 15 - 24
-7 or less, GREEN - looks like a reasonably safe opponent.
-6, GREEN - You would probably win this fight..it's not certain though.
-3 to -5, BLUE - looks quite risky, but might be worth a try.
-1 and -2 - BLUE - looks kind of dangerous.
0, WHITE - appears to be quite formidable.
+1 and +2, YELLOW - looks like quite a gamble.
+3 or more, RED - what would you like your tombstone to say?
Character Levels 25 - 34
-11 or more, GREEN- You could probably win this fight.
-10, GREEN - This creature could pose problems, you would probably defeat it.
-8 and -9, GREEN - You would probably win this fight..it's not certain though.
-1 to -7, BLUE - appears to be quite formidable.
0, WHITE - looks like quite a gamble.
+1 and +2, YELLOW - looks like it would wipe the floor with you!
+3 or more, RED - what would you like your tombstone to say?
Character Levels 35 - 40
-11 or more, GREEN - you could probably win this fight.
-10, GREEN - You would probably win this fight..it's not certain though.
-1 to -9, BLUE - appears to be quite formidable.
0, WHITE - looks like quite a gamble.
+1 and +2, YELLOW - looks like it would wipe the floor with you!
+3 or more, RED - what would you like your tombstone to say?
Character levels 41 - 44?
-12 or more, GREEN - you could probably win this fight.
-1 to -11, BLUE - appears to be quite formidable.
0, WHITE - looks like quite a gamble.
+1 and +2, YELLOW - looks like it would wipe the floor with you!
+3 or more, RED - what would you like your tombstone to say?
Character levels 45 - 48
-13 or more, GREEN - you could probably win this fight.
-1 to -12, BLUE - appears to be quite formidable.
0, WHITE - looks like quite a gamble.
+1 and +2, YELLOW - looks like it would wipe the floor with you!
+3 or more, RED - what would you like your tombstone to say?
Character Level 49 - 50
-14 or more, GREEN - you could probably win this fight.
-1 to -13,BLUE - appears to be quite formidable.
0, WHITE - looks like quite a gamble.
+1 and +2, YELLOW - looks like it would wipe the floor with you!
+3 or more, RED - what would you like your tombstone to say?
Needs to be updated for 51-60. If you find any of that information to be incorrect please take 2 minutes to update the wiki.
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