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wagorf
09-08-2017, 05:55 AM
War is geared with fungi, CoF. Mid 30s using Staff of Battle while soloing. Also got Frostbringer, WESS, and Fist of Zek in bag.
Issue: Solo killing is getting slower and slower, it's also getting quite difficult to solo white/yellow mobs.
Question 1: At what level should I switch to dual wield to solo better? Never?
Question 2a: If I have to switch to dw to solo at later levels, what weapon combo should I use among the 3 weapons I carry?
Question 2b: What weapon would you recommend to purchase if I want to solo even better? This probably would cost at least a few k, so I'd like this to be a long term investment, not something I will never use post 50.
Question 3: Given my gear set, what is the fastest place for exp (solo) between lvl 35 - 40? 40-45? 45-50?
Question 4: I'd like to gain dwarf faction to acquire velious custom helm. What level can I start working on factions and get exp at the same time? What zones should I go? I doubt I can solo it with my gears?
Legidias
09-08-2017, 08:06 AM
Make a gnome war to have cof + self click 40% haste
Samoht
09-08-2017, 10:44 AM
FV cliffs. There is a mix of mobs there. Some will be blue, some will be white/yellow/red. Avoid those and only kill the blue ones until you're 40+. You'll figure out which ones are easy by race/name as you go along. Some dogs will be red, some will be green, pirates should be blue until 40ish, and they have really low health. This will be a great place until 42 or 43, maybe even 44 if you're patient and not chased out by bard monopolizing everything in sight. Then switch to yeti caves in DL. That will work until almost 50. After that, you'll have to start grouping.
I don't know if Staff of Battle would be better here than Wurmslayer + FoZ or not, but if you're not completely satisfied with SoB, get a Wurmslayer and use it with FoZ off-hand.
Troxx
09-08-2017, 03:14 PM
War is geared with fungi, CoF. Mid 30s using Staff of Battle while soloing. Also got Frostbringer, WESS, and Fist of Zek in bag.
Issue: Solo killing is getting slower and slower, it's also getting quite difficult to solo white/yellow mobs.
Question 1: At what level should I switch to dual wield to solo better? Never?
Question 2a: If I have to switch to dw to solo at later levels, what weapon combo should I use among the 3 weapons I carry?
Question 2b: What weapon would you recommend to purchase if I want to solo even better? This probably would cost at least a few k, so I'd like this to be a long term investment, not something I will never use post 50.
Question 3: Given my gear set, what is the fastest place for exp (solo) between lvl 35 - 40? 40-45? 45-50?
Question 4: I'd like to gain dwarf faction to acquire velious custom helm. What level can I start working on factions and get exp at the same time? What zones should I go? I doubt I can solo it with my gears?
I've solo'd most of the way to lv 52 (now 35% in).
1) Depends on your weapons. With what you have SoB will probably be best for solo. Even up to 52 SoB yields faster kills and less damage taken than wurmslayer + FB. After 50, swapping in/out Truncheon for proc then SoB is the most mindlessly easy way. I have yet to get some bloodpoints.
2a) If you must DW i suggest getting a wurmslayer. The slow hit rate means less ripostes and his has a better raw ratio than pretty much all other 1handers. Your ripostes also do more damage.
2b) For DW solo? Wurmslayer.
3) No good suggestions. In general look for dungeons with *low* dark blues or outdoor zones with easy chain pull dark blues.
4) you can go now to EW and start killing giants
Samoht
09-08-2017, 03:38 PM
4) you can go now to EW and start killing giants
This doesn't seem to be like very good advice. Maybe you meant another zone? He'd definitely be too low to kill level 35+ Velious mobs solo as a Warrior.
Troxx
09-08-2017, 03:49 PM
This doesn't seem to be like very good advice. Maybe you meant another zone? He'd definitely be too low to kill level 35+ Velious mobs solo as a Warrior.
You are correct, I meant Iceclad - was off by a single zone. Cougars/Dires/Giants in Iceclad are within appropriate level range of a mid 30s warrior, though a mid 30s warrior may be able to find limited success in certain areas of EW with his level of twinking (fungi/CoF/the_works). Wolves/Giants in Iceclad will give coldain faction.
Samoht
09-08-2017, 03:54 PM
was off by a single zone.
Not very humble, are you.
Naethyn
09-08-2017, 04:41 PM
Read this for my 50+ solo technique
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2511158&postcount=3
Silken whip (snare) is key. If you have the ability to loot a Tserrina Whip it procs mid 30s. A warrior gets weaker and weaker from lv 30-49. After 50 a warrior gets stronger and stronger. When you get 52 use evasive every time it is up. Bad warriors save it.
Freakish
09-08-2017, 06:52 PM
Read this for my 50+ solo technique
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2511158&postcount=3
Silken whip (snare) is key. If you have the ability to loot a Tserrina Whip it procs mid 30s. A warrior gets weaker and weaker from lv 30-49. After 50 a warrior gets stronger and stronger. When you get 52 use evasive every time it is up. Bad warriors save it.
Going to take this advice, thanks! Lvl 40 now.
Sonderbeast
09-08-2017, 07:20 PM
I tend to disaggree with the others here. Your staff of battle is fine for now but by late 30's once your dual wield skill starts to get close to that 200 mark you should be using a nice offhand ratio wep like frosty, FoZ, Jagged Blade of Mourning, or Edge of the Nightwalker. Wurmslayer is horrendous dps, sure you get riposted less, but you also deal less damage, you want to level fast right? Put that frosty in your primary or seb croaking dirk or, fuck it, a swiftblade of Zek, and get that fast damage. You'll deal twice as much mainhand bonus damage and get shit done .
Be satisfied with blues. You will take less damage killing two blues than killing one yellow or white assuming your AC is significantly above curve. Plus it will be faster. Outdoor zones with lots of mobs for repops are a great option in this case. Try Frontier Mountain Giants, they repop fast, dont cast and you can easily run to zone if shit goes down. Also old world zones tend to have mobs with less hp, making them easier to dispatch You can level from 32 to 39 there easily, although 38 is the last level I'd stay there. You can also do SolA, but gibbies can nuke so it may hurt.
40+ solo will be much harder since mobs have a lot more HP for their level and hit considerably harder than your fungi can keep up with. I would really suggest making friends with a mage/rogue/monk and just duo stables in CoM or Crystal Caverns. Your defensive capabilities will stay about the same but getting that extra dps will make things go a lot faster. If you don't want to pick up a friend then spend some money on some 10 dose kivas. 5 kivas is about 2k but to recharge is only 1k. It should make leveling go a lot smoother and 4 kivas will last you a few levels at least. Have a couple of those serpent blood pots and a root net to save yourself a CR too if you have the money to spend. Late 40's kill trash in DL at north wall. Again there are slim pickins for solo warrior spots, so try to at least find a duo partener.
Gluck dude!
Lojik
09-08-2017, 07:26 PM
Does BW trick still work? That seemed easier to time with 2 handers. Runed blade can be fun to swap in at 46 too, DPS isn't great but the proc helps reduce down time
Troxx
09-09-2017, 01:50 AM
Does BW trick still work? That seemed easier to time with 2 handers. Runed blade can be fun to swap in at 46 too, DPS isn't great but the proc helps reduce down time
It does still work.
Regarding "wurmslayer is horrendous dps" - that's simply not true. I've got the following 1h weapon ratios in my bag: 12/22 + 70dd proc, 11/23, 9/18, 14/28 and wurmslayer 25/40. While I don't have a SoZ to compare with - I have parser running in real time with on screen display while I play. Very consistently even at 52 the highest dps combination is still 25/40 primary and 12/22 + proc offhand. Through 30s and 40s no other combination was even close. By 52 the gap has closed considerably but wurmslayer still comes out on top. I imagine by 55 it will no longer be the most raw dps of the weapons I have but for now it still wins.
SoB is pretty close, but it really pays off solo despite being a bit less dps thanks to ripostes (mine are stronger, theirs less than DW) AND being easy to bind-wound trick without missing much of my own dps potential. 45hp bind every 10 seconds while fighting + fungi = I'm always hovering zerk mode and still chain pulling solo.
Jimjam
09-09-2017, 03:40 AM
Does BW trick still work? That seemed easier to time with 2 handers. Runed blade can be fun to swap in at 46 too, DPS isn't great but the proc helps reduce down time
https://wiki.project1999.com/Vehement_Sword_of_Reivaj is an alternative. Not saying its the best option, but it can work too. Runed Blade is not a common drop and his hard to find. Vehement Sword of Reivaj is also a 3:4 two hander but with a str/90hp rune for proc. Just makes sure you have 95+ agi if you do use it.
ScruffMacBuff
09-23-2017, 02:15 PM
I just upgraded my Vehement Sword to a Runed Blade recently and I love it. I like to get someone in my group to root all the mobs and tank with it to absorb damage.
The Vehement Sword of Reivaj is definitely better for fashion though.
demokatt
09-25-2017, 10:49 AM
Does BW trick still work? That seemed easier to time with 2 handers. Runed blade can be fun to swap in at 46 too, DPS isn't great but the proc helps reduce down time
What is BW trick?
Muggens
09-25-2017, 03:19 PM
What is BW trick?
Guess they talkin bout bind wound trick (macro ) while in battle (bw and stand)
Jimjam
09-26-2017, 12:50 AM
tab to self, bind wound, /stand, tab back to enemy & attack on.
Allows you to attack while bandaging. Adds about 50 hp per tick given optimum conditions. Goes through bandages at an alarming rate though (especially as you are likely to have a fair few interrupts).
Troxx
09-26-2017, 10:54 AM
tab to self, bind wound, /stand, tab back to enemy & attack on.
Allows you to attack while bandaging. Adds about 50 hp per tick given optimum conditions. Goes through bandages at an alarming rate though (especially as you are likely to have a fair few interrupts).
It's about 47hp a bind for me at 55 but at 57 can bind to 75% for about 80hp a bind.
Solo in the 50s it adds about 2x fungi if back is against wall with hotkey. Using 2hander minimal lost dps.
Naethyn
09-26-2017, 06:21 PM
Bind the "toggle last two targets key" instead of using tab
Jimjam
09-27-2017, 12:46 AM
Good point (as that's what my tab is set to).
demokatt
09-29-2017, 10:20 AM
Is there a way to swap in a shield for bash and swap back to weapon by using only keys on the keyboard? Or I have to use mouse click for the actual swapping in?
Samoht
09-29-2017, 12:44 PM
Is there a way to swap in a shield for bash and swap back to weapon by using only keys on the keyboard? Or I have to use mouse click for the actual swapping in?
Mouse click. This was not implemented in live until OoW.
Legidias
09-29-2017, 05:35 PM
Just put it on your hot bar. Bash one key, secondary slot another key, and then shield (in inventory) in a third one. Put them all next to each other vertically or something. Click shield, drop in secondary, bash, replace weapon. Like 3 clicks within 1 inch of each other. Takes less than a second.
aaezil
09-29-2017, 05:42 PM
get the clicky heal BP and switch fungi out for it to heal between battles
also try 2x blood point
Jimjam
09-29-2017, 06:21 PM
between battles heal:
breastplate right click/hotkey
bind wound (combat tab of actions window)
sit (main page tab of actions window) - to stand out of bandage, thus not interrupt the heal spell cast
wait until bandage and bp heal complete, then repeat until 50% / 70% as bind wound skill dictates.
Hp goes up pretty fast while tapping bp heal and bind wound simultaneously!
ScruffMacBuff
09-29-2017, 08:02 PM
Just put it on your hot bar. Bash one key, secondary slot another key, and then shield (in inventory) in a third one. Put them all next to each other vertically or something. Click shield, drop in secondary, bash, replace weapon. Like 3 clicks within 1 inch of each other. Takes less than a second.
To piggy back on this, I've got bash, kick, and disarm on the same hot key in that order. Saves room on my hotbars. By having bash first it will fail if you don't have a shield equipped and kick will work. If you do have a shield equipped your bash will fire and kick will not because they share a timer.
And disarm to get the skill up.
Also, off topic in a solo thread but in groups I've been putting on my shield more recently mid fight. Mostly if I get two procs in a row or if the mob gets rooted. Runed Blade is also wonderful if the mob gets rooted.
Scoojitsu
09-30-2017, 03:57 AM
To piggy back on this, I've got bash, kick, and disarm on the same hot key in that order. Saves room on my hotbars. By having bash first it will fail if you don't have a shield equipped and kick will work. If you do have a shield equipped your bash will fire and kick will not because they share a timer.
And disarm to get the skill up.
If putting skills on a hotkey like this, how do you know they are up again?
If using the normal hotkey you see when you can use it again.
Jimjam
09-30-2017, 05:21 AM
Maybe keep the combat abilities page open so you can monitor there?
Or use a multi-hotkey bar UI, have the bash button on the visible bar and the social hotkey on an invisible bar mapped to the same button?
port9001
10-03-2017, 10:36 AM
It does still work.
Regarding "wurmslayer is horrendous dps" - that's simply not true. I've got the following 1h weapon ratios in my bag: 12/22 + 70dd proc, 11/23, 9/18, 14/28 and wurmslayer 25/40. While I don't have a SoZ to compare with - I have parser running in real time with on screen display while I play. Very consistently even at 52 the highest dps combination is still 25/40 primary and 12/22 + proc offhand. Through 30s and 40s no other combination was even close. By 52 the gap has closed considerably but wurmslayer still comes out on top. I imagine by 55 it will no longer be the most raw dps of the weapons I have but for now it still wins.
Since I've had this question come up often in my own mind I created a spreadsheet with the known damage formulas. My data lines up with your anecdotes. Wurmslayer + 12/22 weapon will begin to outperform a Staff of Battle at level 32 and continue to improve it's lead beyond that. Mind you that's without even considering the proc.
Edit: With the Kunark 2H damage bonus after 50 applied the 2hander does indeed catch up and surpass the DW combo, ignoring the effects of the proc.
port9001
10-03-2017, 01:36 PM
Since I've had this question come up often in my own mind I created a spreadsheet with the known damage formulas. My data lines up with your anecdotes. Wurmslayer + 12/22 weapon will begin to outperform a Staff of Battle at level 32 and continue to improve it's lead beyond that. Mind you that's without even considering the proc.
Edit: With the Kunark 2H damage bonus after 50 applied the 2hander does indeed catch up and surpass the DW combo, ignoring the effects of the proc.
Correction:
After updating two hand bonus damage from the latest patch dual wield is better from levels 37-50 with these weapons.
Naethyn
10-03-2017, 01:44 PM
A wurmslayer + blue epic will also likely out dps staff of battle even at 60, especially if not using precision. Triple Attack is a big factor for warrior dps. Once the other classes get it we won't be doing more dps than monks anymore.
Troxx
10-04-2017, 01:44 AM
I finally sold off the wurmslayer recently. It wasn't worth the bag space. It still parsed well but I never used it tanking. Solo I've transitioned to using utility procs (trunch, bloodpoints, snare whip).
It was a good weapon - fantastic for lower levels. I just ran out of practical uses for it.
skarlorn
10-04-2017, 08:25 PM
cracked staff and a rusty short sword is usually the most fun
Samoht
10-05-2017, 09:40 AM
cracked staff and a rusty short sword is usually the most fun
Until you have to fight a pesky ghoul that you cannot damage and that keeps you perma-rooted :(
ScruffMacBuff
10-05-2017, 10:08 PM
If putting skills on a hotkey like this, how do you know they are up again?
If using the normal hotkey you see when you can use it again.
I still had bash on my bar when I set it up and I just left it for this reason exactly.
wagorf
10-23-2017, 03:45 AM
i find that pairing frostbringer with winters fury can hold aggro pretty well given my haste - unless there are senseless players who don't evade or fd
i will try frostbringer + exquis velium warsword next, it can only get better with more dps and faster swings
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