Dawn Believers stealing pixels again

[Computer Blue]

FUUUUCCCCKKKKKKKKKKK. So we the Second Sons were promised a VSR Stone if we bring our force to help. We brought something like 10+people. Then some random nobody group of friends bring a 60 warrior and a few enchanters and doesn't do jack shit else. Then we have to roll for the stone. Fuck. 5 of those guys and they get the stone. Fuck you DB and some /anon farm team.

Computer Blue
The Second Sons

[indiscriminate_hater]

get better

[Pokesan]

what a bunch of rascals

[Rygar]

Depends, but a 60 tank that can hold agro on VS and enchanted to chain rune are pretty key components. What was the rest of the raid like?

[Kesselring]

They bring a tank for vsr and the rune chain for vsr and they didnt do jack shit else? Are you aware thats what it takes to really have a successful kill in most situations?

[Troxx]

They bring a tank for vsr and the rune chain for vsr and they didnt do jack shit else? Are you aware thats what it takes to really have a successful kill in most situations?

[Ion Blaze]

/pixelated cry. At least my worthless college degree is real.

[Swish]

So you agreed to roll, lost the roll..and are now mad?

[Speedi]

So you agreed to roll, lost the roll..and are now mad?

Sounds about right

[Jimjam]

http://i.imgur.com/fLaltEQ.jpg

I like how the url includes the letters 'EQ.jpg'.

[Wendak]

Dawn Believers asked Second Sons for help. Second Sons guild leader asked if we could have one of the stones (to the person who was leading the raid). They agreed and we had everyone drop what they were doing and head to KC.

Apparently while the raid leader was telling us we could have a stone, the DB guild leader was telling Carnage they could have a stone.

The reality was that they need to figure out their own internal communication. They essentially had two people trying to lead the raid.

The final counts on numbers at time of death was:
- 20 Dawn Believer
- 18 Second Sons
- 3 Carnage

Carnage did provide the tank and an enchanter. However all clerics and additional enchanters were provided by Second Sons.

IMO DB should have given up both stones to the people they promised them to. Instead DB snapped up their stone and forced us to figure out who was going to get he last one. I personally was not involved in these conversations, but somehow it was decided that we would just have 1 person from each guild /ran 100.

It didn't make a whole lot of sense and was definitely a bit sketchy. The DB raid leader said NOTHING to suggest who was getting a stone etc. Until the second VS died and he came on Discord and was like "Awesome guys! So the second stone goes to Carnage. I should have specified that before I started!"

He knew full well that we had basically been mislead.

[MilanderTruewield]

Shoulda done a better job of supporting Daenerys.

[oracle333]

This is Allio of the Dawn Believers. I am sole creator of this guild and Abiatharr is my co-leader. I'm going to set the record straight.

1. We've never "stolen" pixels so saying we're "doing it again" is complete slander and utter bullshit my dude. It's a low blow to try and trash someone's reputation. That's the mark of a coward. Even further proven by the fact that you don't put your in-game name down (and stating it after my response here isn't going to help).

2. The entire situation was a miscommunication, but an INNOCENT one. We're an up and coming guild, growing and trying to do bigger things. Abiatharr is my co-leader and he handles raids. SYNNON is my epic fight coordinator and he handles things like VSR.

3. I'm not a raider. I'm a complete rookie when it comes to this end game stuff. I'm learning and one day I'll be as experienced as anyone, but for now my basic story is this is my first guild and all things considered I think I'm doing a pretty good job. I've always been a leveler; I have one of every class between 20-56. HOWEVER...

3.5 This is my responsibility as well and I totally and completely apologize. I left it in the hands of two guys I trust (and still trust despite their mistakes last night) and figured all would be ok. I figured everyone was on the same page as far as the final looting/rolling was concerned. Next time it doesn't matter what raid is taking place I will 100% be on top of making sure EVERYTHING is coordinated before any INC message.

4. Carnage brought some key pieces to the raid and that's why VSR melted in 30 seconds. They definitely contributed despite having "only" 3 guys. So take that into consideration. It's not an excuse for what happened - it's just stating a fact.

5. Abiatharr wrote a lengthy apology. This is mine. I truly am sick about this because TSS has been nothing short of amazing. Yes, they're a strong raid guild and we want to continue our alliance with them, but first and foremost they're full of amazing people (not counting the coward here who wants to trash our name anonymously). That's what bothers me the most about this. A handful of them simply don't care. Their 60 druid said it was whatever. Their leader said it was whatever. Another handful are understandably pissed and feel cheated. I completely understand.

6. I may be right in assuming this computer blue guy is Aitiera who sent some berating tells to Abiatharr telling him how horribly he handled things and that he'd never, ever help my guild again. It was the opposite of classy and it was uncalled for. Be better than that.

7. CLEARLY my guild isn't going to be in on some conspiracy to BLATANTLY screw over our allies over one drop. This wasn't a fungi or some 200k item. And considering how fast VS went down we can easily do this again. Think about that before believing some baseless claim that we did this on purpose. It makes no sense.

8. My guild, like most of p99, is full of mature, cool dudes. We don't "steal pixels" and we didn't do this on purpose. It was just a major, yet innocent mistake that came down to miscommunication. That's 100% what happened.

9. As the very top guy in DB I've already made the decision to give BOTH stones to TSS next time we do this. All I know is we'll be able to do this MANY times and everyone is gonna end up with their stones. We can sacrifice one VS kill in order to make things right and show a sign of good faith.

10. Don't come running to rants and flames about shit guys. Be better than that. Handle things professionally. Months back some idiot named Shamsade decided to steal items in EC. Another idiot HERE decided to make a throwaway joke that I was Shamsade, despite the fact that I've made damn near a million plat all on my own in my 3 years on p99. I have two fungis. I have one of every class fully twinked. I'm a plat farmer and leveler. I have ZERO reason to steal shit. The point of #10 is to say it's classless to try and trash someone's reputation - whether it's an individual or an entire guild. We had a miscommunication between two guys who are extremely sorry and I can assure you it will <never> happen again, because if it does I'm /guildremove'ing whoever screws up.

11. If you've made it this far, good. I highly doubt I'll be back here for more replies because I've said everything I need to say. I think Rants and Flames is basically another name for Troll Land. This isn't a healthy place. So understand this was an innocent (if not dumb) mistake and was NOT, I repeat, was NOT intentional.

12. We've apologized profusely. It will never happen again. Next VS kill is going to see both stones go to TSS. And I hope we can all move tf on from this so we can get back to having fun as friends.

- Allio

[GraveD]

This is Allio of the Dawn Believers. I am sole creator of this guild and Abiatharr is my co-leader. I'm going to set the record straight.

1. We've never "stolen" pixels so saying we're "doing it again" is complete slander and utter bullshit my dude. It's a low blow to try and trash someone's reputation. That's the mark of a coward. Even further proven by the fact that you don't put your in-game name down (and stating it after my response here isn't going to help).

2. The entire situation was a miscommunication, but an INNOCENT one. We're an up and coming guild, growing and trying to do bigger things. Abiatharr is my co-leader and he handles raids. SYNNON is my epic fight coordinator and he handles things like VSR.

3. I'm not a raider. I'm a complete rookie when it comes to this end game stuff. I'm learning and one day I'll be as experienced as anyone, but for now my basic story is this is my first guild and all things considered I think I'm doing a pretty good job. I've always been a leveler; I have one of every class between 20-56. HOWEVER...

3.5 This is my responsibility as well and I totally and completely apologize. I left it in the hands of two guys I trust (and still trust despite their mistakes last night) and figured all would be ok. I figured everyone was on the same page as far as the final looting/rolling was concerned. Next time it doesn't matter what raid is taking place I will 100% be on top of making sure EVERYTHING is coordinated before any INC message.

4. Carnage brought some key pieces to the raid and that's why VSR melted in 30 seconds. They definitely contributed despite having "only" 3 guys. So take that into consideration. It's not an excuse for what happened - it's just stating a fact.

5. Abiatharr wrote a lengthy apology. This is mine. I truly am sick about this because TSS has been nothing short of amazing. Yes, they're a strong raid guild and we want to continue our alliance with them, but first and foremost they're full of amazing people (not counting the coward here who wants to trash our name anonymously). That's what bothers me the most about this. A handful of them simply don't care. Their 60 druid said it was whatever. Their leader said it was whatever. Another handful are understandably pissed and feel cheated. I completely understand.

6. I may be right in assuming this computer blue guy is Aitiera who sent some berating tells to Abiatharr telling him how horribly he handled things and that he'd never, ever help my guild again. It was the opposite of classy and it was uncalled for. Be better than that.

7. CLEARLY my guild isn't going to be in on some conspiracy to BLATANTLY screw over our allies over one drop. This wasn't a fungi or some 200k item. And considering how fast VS went down we can easily do this again. Think about that before believing some baseless claim that we did this on purpose. It makes no sense.

8. My guild, like most of p99, is full of mature, cool dudes. We don't "steal pixels" and we didn't do this on purpose. It was just a major, yet innocent mistake that came down to miscommunication. That's 100% what happened.

9. As the very top guy in DB I've already made the decision to give BOTH stones to TSS next time we do this. All I know is we'll be able to do this MANY times and everyone is gonna end up with their stones. We can sacrifice one VS kill in order to make things right and show a sign of good faith.

10. Don't come running to rants and flames about shit guys. Be better than that. Handle things professionally. Months back some idiot named Shamsade decided to steal items in EC. Another idiot HERE decided to make a throwaway joke that I was Shamsade, despite the fact that I've made damn near a million plat all on my own in my 3 years on p99. I have two fungis. I have one of every class fully twinked. I'm a plat farmer and leveler. I have ZERO reason to steal shit. The point of #10 is to say it's classless to try and trash someone's reputation - whether it's an individual or an entire guild. We had a miscommunication between two guys who are extremely sorry and I can assure you it will <never> happen again, because if it does I'm /guildremove'ing whoever screws up.

11. If you've made it this far, good. I highly doubt I'll be back here for more replies because I've said everything I need to say. I think Rants and Flames is basically another name for Troll Land. This isn't a healthy place. So understand this was an innocent (if not dumb) mistake and was NOT, I repeat, was NOT intentional.

12. We've apologized profusely. It will never happen again. Next VS kill is going to see both stones go to TSS. And I hope we can all move tf on from this so we can get back to having fun as friends.

- Allio

Lol.

[fastboy21]

/pixelated cry. At least my worthless college degree is real.

that's what you think...

[heyokah]

This is Allio of the Dawn Believers. I am sole creator of this guild and Abiatharr is my co-leader. I'm going to set the record straight.

1. We've never "stolen" pixels so saying we're "doing it again" is complete slander and utter bullshit my dude. It's a low blow to try and trash someone's reputation. That's the mark of a coward. Even further proven by the fact that you don't put your in-game name down (and stating it after my response here isn't going to help).

2. The entire situation was a miscommunication, but an INNOCENT one. We're an up and coming guild, growing and trying to do bigger things. Abiatharr is my co-leader and he handles raids. SYNNON is my epic fight coordinator and he handles things like VSR.

3. I'm not a raider. I'm a complete rookie when it comes to this end game stuff. I'm learning and one day I'll be as experienced as anyone, but for now my basic story is this is my first guild and all things considered I think I'm doing a pretty good job. I've always been a leveler; I have one of every class between 20-56. HOWEVER...

3.5 This is my responsibility as well and I totally and completely apologize. I left it in the hands of two guys I trust (and still trust despite their mistakes last night) and figured all would be ok. I figured everyone was on the same page as far as the final looting/rolling was concerned. Next time it doesn't matter what raid is taking place I will 100% be on top of making sure EVERYTHING is coordinated before any INC message.

4. Carnage brought some key pieces to the raid and that's why VSR melted in 30 seconds. They definitely contributed despite having "only" 3 guys. So take that into consideration. It's not an excuse for what happened - it's just stating a fact.

5. Abiatharr wrote a lengthy apology. This is mine. I truly am sick about this because TSS has been nothing short of amazing. Yes, they're a strong raid guild and we want to continue our alliance with them, but first and foremost they're full of amazing people (not counting the coward here who wants to trash our name anonymously). That's what bothers me the most about this. A handful of them simply don't care. Their 60 druid said it was whatever. Their leader said it was whatever. Another handful are understandably pissed and feel cheated. I completely understand.

6. I may be right in assuming this computer blue guy is Aitiera who sent some berating tells to Abiatharr telling him how horribly he handled things and that he'd never, ever help my guild again. It was the opposite of classy and it was uncalled for. Be better than that.

7. CLEARLY my guild isn't going to be in on some conspiracy to BLATANTLY screw over our allies over one drop. This wasn't a fungi or some 200k item. And considering how fast VS went down we can easily do this again. Think about that before believing some baseless claim that we did this on purpose. It makes no sense.

8. My guild, like most of p99, is full of mature, cool dudes. We don't "steal pixels" and we didn't do this on purpose. It was just a major, yet innocent mistake that came down to miscommunication. That's 100% what happened.

9. As the very top guy in DB I've already made the decision to give BOTH stones to TSS next time we do this. All I know is we'll be able to do this MANY times and everyone is gonna end up with their stones. We can sacrifice one VS kill in order to make things right and show a sign of good faith.

10. Don't come running to rants and flames about shit guys. Be better than that. Handle things professionally. Months back some idiot named Shamsade decided to steal items in EC. Another idiot HERE decided to make a throwaway joke that I was Shamsade, despite the fact that I've made damn near a million plat all on my own in my 3 years on p99. I have two fungis. I have one of every class fully twinked. I'm a plat farmer and leveler. I have ZERO reason to steal shit. The point of #10 is to say it's classless to try and trash someone's reputation - whether it's an individual or an entire guild. We had a miscommunication between two guys who are extremely sorry and I can assure you it will <never> happen again, because if it does I'm /guildremove'ing whoever screws up.

11. If you've made it this far, good. I highly doubt I'll be back here for more replies because I've said everything I need to say. I think Rants and Flames is basically another name for Troll Land. This isn't a healthy place. So understand this was an innocent (if not dumb) mistake and was NOT, I repeat, was NOT intentional.

12. We've apologized profusely. It will never happen again. Next VS kill is going to see both stones go to TSS. And I hope we can all move tf on from this so we can get back to having fun as friends.

- Allio
Didn't read

[rebeccablack]

this is what happens when you let casuals have epics. somewhere zeelot is shedding a single tear.

[Whirled]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8fem_aVbgI
video is relevant to thread

[Qtip]

This is Allio of the Dawn Believers. I am sole creator of this guild and Abiatharr is my co-leader. I'm going to set the record straight.

1. We've never "stolen" pixels so saying we're "doing it again" is complete slander and utter bullshit my dude. It's a low blow to try and trash someone's reputation. That's the mark of a coward. Even further proven by the fact that you don't put your in-game name down (and stating it after my response here isn't going to help).

2. The entire situation was a miscommunication, but an INNOCENT one. We're an up and coming guild, growing and trying to do bigger things. Abiatharr is my co-leader and he handles raids. SYNNON is my epic fight coordinator and he handles things like VSR.

3. I'm not a raider. I'm a complete rookie when it comes to this end game stuff. I'm learning and one day I'll be as experienced as anyone, but for now my basic story is this is my first guild and all things considered I think I'm doing a pretty good job. I've always been a leveler; I have one of every class between 20-56. HOWEVER...

3.5 This is my responsibility as well and I totally and completely apologize. I left it in the hands of two guys I trust (and still trust despite their mistakes last night) and figured all would be ok. I figured everyone was on the same page as far as the final looting/rolling was concerned. Next time it doesn't matter what raid is taking place I will 100% be on top of making sure EVERYTHING is coordinated before any INC message.

4. Carnage brought some key pieces to the raid and that's why VSR melted in 30 seconds. They definitely contributed despite having "only" 3 guys. So take that into consideration. It's not an excuse for what happened - it's just stating a fact.

5. Abiatharr wrote a lengthy apology. This is mine. I truly am sick about this because TSS has been nothing short of amazing. Yes, they're a strong raid guild and we want to continue our alliance with them, but first and foremost they're full of amazing people (not counting the coward here who wants to trash our name anonymously). That's what bothers me the most about this. A handful of them simply don't care. Their 60 druid said it was whatever. Their leader said it was whatever. Another handful are understandably pissed and feel cheated. I completely understand.

6. I may be right in assuming this computer blue guy is Aitiera who sent some berating tells to Abiatharr telling him how horribly he handled things and that he'd never, ever help my guild again. It was the opposite of classy and it was uncalled for. Be better than that.

7. CLEARLY my guild isn't going to be in on some conspiracy to BLATANTLY screw over our allies over one drop. This wasn't a fungi or some 200k item. And considering how fast VS went down we can easily do this again. Think about that before believing some baseless claim that we did this on purpose. It makes no sense.

8. My guild, like most of p99, is full of mature, cool dudes. We don't "steal pixels" and we didn't do this on purpose. It was just a major, yet innocent mistake that came down to miscommunication. That's 100% what happened.

9. As the very top guy in DB I've already made the decision to give BOTH stones to TSS next time we do this. All I know is we'll be able to do this MANY times and everyone is gonna end up with their stones. We can sacrifice one VS kill in order to make things right and show a sign of good faith.

10. Don't come running to rants and flames about shit guys. Be better than that. Handle things professionally. Months back some idiot named Shamsade decided to steal items in EC. Another idiot HERE decided to make a throwaway joke that I was Shamsade, despite the fact that I've made damn near a million plat all on my own in my 3 years on p99. I have two fungis. I have one of every class fully twinked. I'm a plat farmer and leveler. I have ZERO reason to steal shit. The point of #10 is to say it's classless to try and trash someone's reputation - whether it's an individual or an entire guild. We had a miscommunication between two guys who are extremely sorry and I can assure you it will <never> happen again, because if it does I'm /guildremove'ing whoever screws up.

11. If you've made it this far, good. I highly doubt I'll be back here for more replies because I've said everything I need to say. I think Rants and Flames is basically another name for Troll Land. This isn't a healthy place. So understand this was an innocent (if not dumb) mistake and was NOT, I repeat, was NOT intentional.

12. We've apologized profusely. It will never happen again. Next VS kill is going to see both stones go to TSS. And I hope we can all move tf on from this so we can get back to having fun as friends.

- Allio

Ouch! Second sons got finessed by this guy! Fool me once shame on you. Fool me two times, shame on the second sons.

Dont worry though. The next two stones will go to you guys....

[Kepp]

LONG TIME AGO LIVED THE MAN WHO WANT THE POWER FOR KILL ALL THE THINGS BUT THE POWER CORRUPT HIM SOUL AND ALL THE BAD THINGS HAPPEN

[Samoht]

Allio with some hardcore victim blaming there. You guys tricked TSS into joining, seems like you knew in advance that you were going to be short a stone.

This wasn't a fungi

And to make one correction, VS stone is worth about the same as a Fungi, so why bring it up?

[dafier]

learn to engage?

[dialabum]

what are second sons and dawn believers doing raiding??!?

[Qtip]

Allio's second time at getting exposed for scamming. A1 leader right there.

Please app to Dawn Believers today! Where your leader will fuck people over and blame his officers.

[Heebs13]

Probably should have had all 3 guilds /random and the 2 highest get stones. All 3 guilds brought something to the table for the kill, so everyone should have an equal shot.

Also probably shouldn't air out your dirty laundry in R&F. It just makes everyone involved look bad, although I'm sure a lot of people here appreciate the popcorn thread.

[Wendak]

This is Allio of the Dawn Believers. I am sole creator of this guild and Abiatharr is my co-leader. I'm going to set the record straight.


6. I may be right in assuming this computer blue guy is Aitiera who sent some berating tells to Abiatharr telling him how horribly he handled things and that he'd never, ever help my guild again. It was the opposite of classy and it was uncalled for. Be better than that.

- Allio

Nope. I responded with my tag above. OP is not me.

I sent Abiatharr a single civilized tell that said along the lines of "I will not be actively helping on a DB raid again and will do my best to convince my guilders to follow suit given what happened." And I told him that he handled he situation poorly.

I stand by that statement. I don't believe it was 100% miscommunication. His timing during the entire thing was too sketchy for me.

[Gozuk]

It's too bad that it turned out messy in the end but congratulations on the kill to everyone involved and hopefully you all can figure out a way to move on and have no hard feelings. I think it's cool to see a couple newer guilds killing shit.

Cloke

[KENAK]

Carnage is good people. Glad to hear they won a stone!

[LostCause]

gay thread

[Baler]

Based on my own knowledge Dawn Believers were a growing leveling guild. They've had time to level up their characters so I imagine they're looking for bigger challenges. It's no surprise that there is some hiccups along the way.

I agree that the title should not contain the word 'again'. The whole things sounds like an innocent mistake and lack of communication on all parties involved.

[skarlorn]

10. Don't come running to rants and flames about shit guys. Be better than that. Handle things professionally.

11. If you've made it this far, good. I highly doubt I'll be back here for more replies because I've said everything I need to say. I think Rants and Flames is basically another name for Troll Land. This isn't a healthy place. So understand this was an innocent (if not dumb) mistake and was NOT, I repeat, was NOT intentional.

- Allio

fuck off dude. nothing worse than a person who text dumps and then runs away without reading the replies.

also, this is a game, not a professional effort.

Dawn Believers sucks, obviously.

[Cecily]

Reminds me of that Avatar of War Rustle helped AM with like 8 people. Got a bow from that raid. Love that bow.

[onics187666]

Wasn't Allio that dude that scammed the ikky BP, denied it here but bragged about it on the facebook group page???

[Raistmaj]

Didn't read

So all that to post a useless response of didn't read? /boggle. Allio made a perfectly fine post stating many things and apologizing for events that occurred. Anything short of respectful acceptance merely shows immaturity on the part of that person, not DB nor Allio.

[maskedmelonpai]

*frantically tears open a roadside emergency kit.*

they losing lotta forum points....

*panicked breathing*

someone!!


HELP!!!

*looks around frantically*


HAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLP!!!!!1!!!ONE!!!!!!!

[loramin]

*frantically tears open a roadside emergency kit.*

they losing lotta forum points....

*panicked breathing*

someone!!


HELP!!!

*looks around frantically*


HAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLP!!!!!1!!!ONE!!!!!!!

:D Posts like these are why I <3 Melon.

[Baler]

*frantically tears open a roadside emergency kit.*

they losing lotta forum points....

*panicked breathing*

someone!!


HELP!!!

*looks around frantically*


HAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLP!!!!!1!!!ONE!!!!!!!

:D Posts like these are why I <3 Melon.

totally agree, made me smile.
Man why you always post what and when I want to post. :confused:

[loramin]

totally agree, made me smile.
Man why you always post what and when I want to post. :confused:

I'm in your head!

[Khaall Drogo]

Oh yeah!? A chance to really clear this up. First off. We came to help the <Dawn Believers> because they asked us for help not for the damn Stone. There are a lot of nice fun people in <DB> who just want to enjoy content like everyone else. This is why I am going out my way to try and help them. If we wanted to do it for the stones we would put in our raid schedule and do it alone.

Secondly here is Synnon's request for help where he clearly says "ok that works" to me saying we would bring the stuff he needs, and we would do it 2 time and we would each get one stone, each time.


[Wed Aug 30 17:50:36 2017] Mellisandre -> synnon: whats up
[Wed Aug 30 17:51:57 2017] Synnon -> Mellisandre: sec hehe VSR is up btw trying to get things organized now for 8pm
[Wed Aug 30 17:52:07 2017] Mellisandre -> synnon: 2 hours?
[Wed Aug 30 17:52:18 2017] Synnon -> Mellisandre: sorry EST hehe so about an hour
[Wed Aug 30 17:55:46 2017] Mellisandre -> synnon: 1-1 on the stones?
[Wed Aug 30 17:56:32 2017] Synnon -> Mellisandre: sec talking to Abiatharr about this too
[Wed Aug 30 17:56:41 2017] Mellisandre -> synnon: let me know
[Wed Aug 30 17:56:45 2017] Synnon -> Mellisandre: will do
[Wed Aug 30 17:57:04 2017] Mellisandre -> synnon: we will gladly help do it 2 times
[Wed Aug 30 17:57:08 2017] Mellisandre -> synnon: so 2 stones for us both
[Wed Aug 30 17:57:42 2017] Mellisandre -> synnon: i got 4 encahnters one 60 of my own on Right now and a 60 shaman and a slew of others to come help
[Wed Aug 30 17:57:50 2017] Synnon -> Mellisandre: ok that works, what do you have to do this?
[Wed Aug 30 17:58:11 2017] Mellisandre -> synnon: i got a few ppl who need VSR stone also
[Wed Aug 30 17:58:15 2017] Synnon -> Mellisandre: what level chanters?
[Wed Aug 30 17:58:17 2017] Mellisandre -> synnon: tiffree 60 druid
[Wed Aug 30 17:58:30 2017] Mellisandre -> synnon: 60 chanter and 3-4 others over 53
[Wed Aug 30 17:58:52 2017] Synnon -> Mellisandre: ahh ok we need 2 60 chanters really more would be better
[Wed Aug 30 18:00:06 2017] Mellisandre -> synnon: how many chanters you guys got?
[Wed Aug 30 18:02:51 2017] Synnon -> Mellisandre: ok our 60's aren't on it seems /sigh
[Wed Aug 30 18:03:05 2017] Mellisandre -> synnon: STay in touch

Thirdly never once were we even informed that there was going to be a 3rd guild present. We could of just as easily of brought the tank and all the chanters if needed. It was said however that clerics/dps is what was needed. So we brought 4 Clerics and a lot of DPS.

Finally... I am in no way saying that Carnage did not help with what they brought. It was a miscommunication. I know that we can easily come back and do it again at any time. <DB> Asked me what I wanted to do because of the mistake. I was not to worried about it so I decided to odd's or even's my guy roll my guy choose.

What I should of done was made them roll for both based on number of attendance at time of kill from each guild. I had no way to communicate with <Carnage> and was purely communicating though <DB> and just did not think it was worth the time or effort and just wanted to get it over with and Congratulate the <DB> on the successful VS Stone.

SO I ALONE CHOSE TO DO THE ROLL.

Now the one thing that does piss me off and I will take time to mention.

First <carnage> had a lvl 47 ranger who was not even present in the zone for the kill loot the stone. Which I did not find out tell later because I was so quick to just pick and easy roll method and move on. As one of my longest Druids in <TSS> at lvl 60 who helped not only port to the fight but also has helped <DB> many times had to sit and watch it get looted after falsely being told it was hers. For that I am pissed off about.

To the person who started this post. Should know that this is not in the image I run my guild and to shame someone for wining a loot pixel instead of us, is in entirely against everything I believe in. Now instead of shaming them you have made us look bad by giving the impression we were upset over losing over a roll which was not even the case. So you have tarnished our reputation in way a that I utterly despise. Instead of letting this simple problem be solved between leadership like it was. We were there to help not win loot.

Friendship is what brings us together and pride is what pushes us to improve.

[Kepp]

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[skarlorn]

I would like to point out that f#ck bag Khall Drogo gets to violate the naming policy with literally every character he owns yet Wu'Tang is banned

#BURNITDOWN

agreed, dude.

[Heebs13]

Every time I see Khaall Drogo mention "friendship" and "pride" as the founding principles of the Second Sons all I can think of is when he poured molten gold on that guy's face.

[loramin]

Every time I see Khaall Drogo mention "friendship" and "pride" as the founding principles of the Second Sons all I can think of is when he poured molten gold on that guy's face.

Well, he did seem reasonably proud of himself while he was pouring the molten gold, and he did it with all of his friends watching.

[Baler]

https://youtu.be/Akl6OK2HUNA?t=2m30s

A CROWN FOR A KING

[skarlorn]

what really sucks is that khaal drogo was not affiliated with the second sons. So it doesn't make sense from an RP perspective, and it violates RP naming conventions, and it ruins everyone's immersion.

[Pokesan]

his everquest character name is inaccurate to the canon of the novels about dragons and incest, FYCKING NOOB

[Lhancelot]

nothing worse than a person who text dumps and then runs away without reading the replies.


I like this. ^^^

[Baler]

I feel like co-op guild events/raids are more scattered than 1 guild running the show. Perhaps the involved guilds,.. if in the future,.. should elect the lead officer on at the time to communicate with other assigned lead officers whom are online.

That way it falls into the officers laps instead of RnF name calling.

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I like this. ^^^

WHO CARES IF YOU LIKE IT. just another fluff post just all your other posts. This is what I'm talking about dude. Contribute or stfu. :mad:

[Qtip]

Oh yeah!? A chance to really clear this up. First off. We came to help the <Dawn Believers> because they asked us for help not for the damn Stone. There are a lot of nice fun people in <DB> who just want to enjoy content like everyone else. This is why I am going out my way to try and help them. If we wanted to do it for the stones we would put in our raid schedule and do it alone.

Secondly here is Synnon's request for help where he clearly says "ok that works" to me saying we would bring the stuff he needs, and we would do it 2 time and we would each get one stone, each time.


[Wed Aug 30 17:50:36 2017] Mellisandre -> synnon: whats up
[Wed Aug 30 17:51:57 2017] Synnon -> Mellisandre: sec hehe VSR is up btw trying to get things organized now for 8pm
[Wed Aug 30 17:52:07 2017] Mellisandre -> synnon: 2 hours?
[Wed Aug 30 17:52:18 2017] Synnon -> Mellisandre: sorry EST hehe so about an hour
[Wed Aug 30 17:55:46 2017] Mellisandre -> synnon: 1-1 on the stones?
[Wed Aug 30 17:56:32 2017] Synnon -> Mellisandre: sec talking to Abiatharr about this too
[Wed Aug 30 17:56:41 2017] Mellisandre -> synnon: let me know
[Wed Aug 30 17:56:45 2017] Synnon -> Mellisandre: will do
[Wed Aug 30 17:57:04 2017] Mellisandre -> synnon: we will gladly help do it 2 times
[Wed Aug 30 17:57:08 2017] Mellisandre -> synnon: so 2 stones for us both
[Wed Aug 30 17:57:42 2017] Mellisandre -> synnon: i got 4 encahnters one 60 of my own on Right now and a 60 shaman and a slew of others to come help
[Wed Aug 30 17:57:50 2017] Synnon -> Mellisandre: ok that works, what do you have to do this?
[Wed Aug 30 17:58:11 2017] Mellisandre -> synnon: i got a few ppl who need VSR stone also
[Wed Aug 30 17:58:15 2017] Synnon -> Mellisandre: what level chanters?
[Wed Aug 30 17:58:17 2017] Mellisandre -> synnon: tiffree 60 druid
[Wed Aug 30 17:58:30 2017] Mellisandre -> synnon: 60 chanter and 3-4 others over 53
[Wed Aug 30 17:58:52 2017] Synnon -> Mellisandre: ahh ok we need 2 60 chanters really more would be better
[Wed Aug 30 18:00:06 2017] Mellisandre -> synnon: how many chanters you guys got?
[Wed Aug 30 18:02:51 2017] Synnon -> Mellisandre: ok our 60's aren't on it seems /sigh
[Wed Aug 30 18:03:05 2017] Mellisandre -> synnon: STay in touch

Thirdly never once were we even informed that there was going to be a 3rd guild present. We could of just as easily of brought the tank and all the chanters if needed. It was said however that clerics/dps is what was needed. So we brought 4 Clerics and a lot of DPS.

Finally... I am in no way saying that Carnage did not help with what they brought. It was a miscommunication. I know that we can easily come back and do it again at any time. <DB> Asked me what I wanted to do because of the mistake. I was not to worried about it so I decided to odd's or even's my guy roll my guy choose.

What I should of done was made them roll for both based on number of attendance at time of kill from each guild. I had no way to communicate with <Carnage> and was purely communicating though <DB> and just did not think it was worth the time or effort and just wanted to get it over with and Congratulate the <DB> on the successful VS Stone.

SO I ALONE CHOSE TO DO THE ROLL.

Now the one thing that does piss me off and I will take time to mention.

First <carnage> had a lvl 47 ranger who was not even present in the zone for the kill loot the stone. Which I did not find out tell later because I was so quick to just pick and easy roll method and move on. As one of my longest Druids in <TSS> at lvl 60 who helped not only port to the fight but also has helped <DB> many times had to sit and watch it get looted after falsely being told it was hers. For that I am pissed off about.

To the person who started this post. Should know that this is not in the image I run my guild and to shame someone for wining a loot pixel instead of us, is in entirely against everything I believe in. Now instead of shaming them you have made us look bad by giving the impression we were upset over losing over a roll which was not even the case. So you have tarnished our reputation in way a that I utterly despise. Instead of letting this simple problem be solved between leadership like it was. We were there to help not win loot.

Friendship is what brings us together and pride is what pushes us to improve.

Allio is the worst troll ever. Finesse game on 100 though.

[kaev]

what really sucks is that khaal drogo was not affiliated with the second sons. So it doesn't make sense from an RP perspective, and it violates RP naming conventions, and it ruins everyone's immersion.

You say that, and yet
Filbus Furyfoot Level 60 Halfling Warlord <Rustle>
may well be the single most immersion destroying line of text in all the EQ multiverse, ever. It's an indestructible catalyst of immersion obliteration, it is the ICE-9 of anti-immersion.

[Samoht]

So all that to post a useless response of didn't read? /boggle. Allio made a perfectly fine post stating many things and apologizing for events that occurred. Anything short of respectful acceptance merely shows immaturity on the part of that person, not DB nor Allio.

Allio just shamed the victims and passed the blame. Lol. You didn't read his post either, did you?

[dafier]

I think he owned the thread then ....


https://i.imgur.com/cKef7Gfh.jpg

[Lhancelot]

WHO CARES IF YOU LIKE IT. just another fluff post just all your other posts. This is what I'm talking about dude. Contribute or stfu. :mad:

I love the fact you follow me around on the forums, makes me stronger. You like my tail. Keep it up and I am going to steal more of your status points here on the forums.

When you find the time, go make another cute gif about me again, I love those!

***Better yet have a nice second meltdown where you got to tell the forums how you ignore me and how much I hurt your feelings. I feel you on the verge of another one now. :D

[maskedmelonpai]

I think he owned the thread then ....


https://i.imgur.com/cKef7Gfh.jpg

that guy was super yuck. first-round Daario was infinitely better. i mean Daairo is to Khall as Oberyn is to Sam. the recast was just disappointing :c

[Lhancelot]

that guy was super yuck. first-round Daario was infinitely better. i mean Daairo is to Khall as Oberyn is to Sam. the recast was just disappointing :c

I never see one GoT show, not one. Am I missing something spectacular? :o

[skarlorn]

You say that, and yet

may well be the single most immersion destroying line of text in all the EQ multiverse, ever. It's an indestructible catalyst of immersion obliteration, it is the ICE-9 of anti-immersion.

how exactly? thx

[dafier]

I never see one GoT show, not one. Am I missing something spectacular? :o

reminds me of the Geico commercial with the caveman under a rock.

[maskedmelonpai]

I never see one GoT show, not one. Am I missing something spectacular? :o

yeah, lotta disturbing violence, unpaletteable sex, and NEVERWNDING FRUSTRATION. it really a awful show, but it have this emotional hook it set by perpetually pissing you off to make you keep watching it, hoping that it get better. then, right when you think it do, it stomp on you hope, smudging you heart liek a little bit on the sidewalk :c it awful, but addictive. i binge watched it like a year ago because everyone was always talking about how FANTASTIC it was... :rolleyes:

[Whirled]

If Sandor & Gregor get to beat each others brains in --- it's worth it.

If they don't have their epic fight & it's all white walker stuff &/or fantastical ways of surviving the impossible -- then I say we form a crew to tell the writers, "see you real soon"

[maskedmelonpai]

based on rest of the story, Gregor will kill sandor when he should be dead and i will be #mad again.

[Whirled]

Yea, I'm rooting for the under dog as usual. Sandor needs to groundpound that ghoul of a brother.

[hyejin]

Whatever its faults, the show is very daring. the rape scenes are a breath of fresh air.w

[dafier]

Not really ... The first 3 seasons were actually pretty magnificent but dropped off significantly from there. Season 4 was just pretty good (lots of action, some major shock value, etc). Season 5-7 has been horrible writing, even worse pacing, blatant fan service and contrived plot conveniences. Only thing keeping people to keep coming back is the great acting (being paid 1mil an episode they better be doing their job remotely well) and investment in the story/characters.

So yeah, tl;dr, it's worth watching the first 3 seasons. After that the content drops off significantly. And Emilia Clarke is probably the worst actress I've ever seen in a big named HBO starring role.

awesome trollin

[Pokesan]

Whatever its faults, the show is very daring. the rape scenes are a breath of fresh air.w

dude..

[mcoy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJN-vTBp0jo

-Mcoy

[Lhancelot]

Whatever its faults, the show is very daring. the rape scenes are a breath of fresh air.w

You probably thoroughly loved the movie Irréversible and it's most disturbing scene. :eek:

[Baler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJN-vTBp0jo

-Mcoy

omg, wow.. lol

[RagefootAngerhands]

maybe you guys should just let me hold onto one of those VS stones

[kaev]

how exactly? thx

Immersion's pretty personal, y'know? It's just not talked about in detail. I mean, blanket condemnations and unsupported declarations of faith are pretty safe, but that's about the end of it.

I still love you tho Filbus, I'll never forget that long-ago Ixi fight when we were both in BDA. The fight where you and I fell gloriously, side-by-side, crushed in seconds by the demon after I laid my healing hands on your scorched and abused halfling flesh, while the clerics busied themselves criticizing one-another's fashion sense in preference to healing our courageous and indomitable halfpinttankwarrior on engage.

[Saludeen]

Here's what really happened. One group was going to kill the dragon then another group came in to fight them f.. ... .. hm one sec