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Saludeen
08-21-2017, 09:18 PM
EQ classic PVP attracts a specific kind of player, even if it varies. It takes someone with thicker skin, a willingness to learn and deal with harsher consequences than most games. This is why I think the best Pantheon guild will be comprised mostly of EQ classic PVP legends. So this question is for Empire, or any other guild who felt like they won the box: what are the most important things to be the best PVP guild? I'll start with one of them.

1. A willingness to poopsock. Because someone who plays 24/7 will progress or have an advantage over someone who doesn't, usually. Or someone who simply cares the most about being the best. I wasn't one of them on this server because that kind of motivation left when I sold my TBC character during the glory days of BG9 in Wow. But Pantheon may be different.

So what else do you think? Organization, numbers, knowledgeable and smart leaders, strong focus on raiding and gearing? Serious question even though some troll retards will probably still reply.

HippoNipple
08-21-2017, 10:37 PM
1) One level headed intelligent leader who demands respect and has an unhealthy amount of playtime.

2) A bunch of loyal goons with high play time that won't question the leader and bully players that go against the leader.

3) Numbers

Saludeen
08-22-2017, 06:39 AM
1) One level headed intelligent leader who demands respect and has an unhealthy amount of playtime.

2) A bunch of loyal goons with high play time that won't question the leader and bully players that go against the leader.

3) Numbers

Yeah I could have probably answered my own question, just wanted to see what you guys thought. And thanks for a legit comment.

Platexchange
08-22-2017, 08:39 AM
Play time will always be the #1 factor, but the box is a small microcosm of what will happen on pantheon. Empire, even if it fields 80 to 100 players may find itself dwarfed in comparison to guilds that will probably field 200+. Also it will majorly depend on how the server is policed. The stuff that we did on the box probably won't fly so the training and grieving and general Douchebag attitude/playstyle might leave you blacklisted and never advancing like it did on VZ/TZ/rallos. Now if they go Sullon Zek style the box crew will reign supreme.

Rick Sanchez
08-22-2017, 08:50 AM
retarded question

kotton05
08-22-2017, 09:15 AM
What guild is empire?

shokar
08-22-2017, 09:41 AM
1) One level headed intelligent leader who demands respect and has an unhealthy amount of playtime.

2) A bunch of loyal goons with high play time that won't question the leader and bully players that go against the leader.

3) Numbers

pretty much it

Jimjam
08-22-2017, 09:43 AM
Gotta have strong Innoruuk RP for success on an eq pvp server.

MerkelMacron
08-22-2017, 11:05 AM
1) One level headed intelligent leader who demands respect and has an unhealthy amount of playtime.

2) A bunch of loyal goons with high play time that won't question the leader and bully players that go against the leader.

3) Numbers

Empire™

MerkelMacron
08-22-2017, 11:13 AM
Apparently an officer council that splits 4:4 between dyed-in-the-wool hardcore poopsockers stuck on the box since its reception and sociable normies who do it for the love of pvp doesnt float

because the normies burn out and the lifers cant bury their grievances and self-destruct over ego and pixels

gotta do it like Empire/Holo: 1 leader (raid sheduling, loot calls, greenlights/denies apps), 2-3 group of loyalists (split into 1 group of officers, 2 groups of footmen) who get all the good stuff....and the rest is just tag along meat shields

MerkelMacron
08-22-2017, 11:15 AM
Quilbilly Tribalism is also an option, but its not the dominant strategy

eternal challenger

HippoNipple
08-22-2017, 03:17 PM
Apparently an officer council that splits 4:4 between dyed-in-the-wool hardcore poopsockers stuck on the box since its reception and sociable normies who do it for the love of pvp doesnt float

because the normies burn out and the lifers cant bury their grievances and self-destruct over ego and pixels

gotta do it like Empire/Holo: 1 leader (raid sheduling, loot calls, greenlights/denies apps), 2-3 group of loyalists (split into 1 group of officers, 2 groups of footmen) who get all the good stuff....and the rest is just tag along meat shields

Nihilum was the same way. You are talking about this strategy as if it is bad. If you don't have the competent leader and loyal goons toxic people like Agatha can spread doubt and chaos pretty quick and before you know it the guild is splitting in two.

Rick Sanchez
08-23-2017, 03:58 PM
nobody wins on an emulator unless you cashed out early and made some coin off of this trashcan

Saludeen
08-23-2017, 06:09 PM
nobody wins on an emulator unless you cashed out early and made some coin off of this trashcan

True, but according to that logic, the real winners are the ones who never play or post here at all, but instead spend their time doing good work and being righteous for the sake of pleasing God because that's the greatest success, God willing. Even though I foolishly waste time on activities like this anyway.

Saludeen
08-23-2017, 07:12 PM
Good responses though. Seems like you need a solid leader then a group of dedicated friends and the strongest willingness to be the best; then some extra warmbodies for numbers. Then the only other factors are the individuals and how good they are on their own.

Aesop
08-23-2017, 11:49 PM
instead spend their time doing good work and being righteous for the sake of pleasing God because that's the greatest success

http://i.imgur.com/7koqEjy.gif

Saludeen
08-24-2017, 02:52 PM
This is what you get, God willing, if you are appreciative to the All-Mighty and do good, avoid evil and seek forgiveness. Except its multiplied to unimaginable quality and you get to be honored, high ranking, and allied with the Omnipotent and the most powerful beings in existence like the angels and the best of mankind; among other benefits like being served the purest drinks while reclining in shade and silk and having no fatigue. As opposed to the opposite which is a humiliating and painful retribution in hell that's reserved for the losers, wicked and arrogant rejecters, despite those being synonymous. Make your choice, God willing.

Tassador
08-24-2017, 03:14 PM
Yeah I am reading all of that and thinking your pot dealer sprayed raid on your shit. Maybe get a new pot dealer.

Samsung
08-24-2017, 05:53 PM
I win I'm banging chix

Aesop
08-25-2017, 07:07 PM
You are banging chicks on your level, and I can respect that. Go in peace weasel.

Aesop
08-25-2017, 07:10 PM
Saludeen, I'm fine with what God has given me already. Every morning I wake up surrounded by my family. Three beautiful healthy boys and a beautiful wife. God has already rewarded me more than I deserve.

AzzarTheGod
08-25-2017, 07:19 PM
what happened to that servedick website he had in his profile

did the government shut him down? that islam shit is against the law

KEWLGET
08-25-2017, 08:55 PM
i will do all in my power to destroy brad's back pill fantasy paradise

Saludeen
08-27-2017, 08:15 PM
what happened to that servedick website he had in his profile

did the government shut him down? that islam shit is against the law

Nah. But you'll rot in hell for lying about me and being evil at your core. Thank God.
Enjoy your respite while you can. Or even better, end it early and do the world a favor.

Saludeen
08-27-2017, 08:16 PM
Saludeen, I'm fine with what God has given me already. Every morning I wake up surrounded by my family. Three beautiful healthy boys and a beautiful wife. God has already rewarded me more than I deserve.

Then may God bless you even more for your humility and appreciation for what you already have.

Rushmore
08-29-2017, 06:50 PM
1) One level headed intelligent leader who demands respect and has an unhealthy amount of playtime.


This was always the best guild on the server

AzzarTheGod
08-30-2017, 03:15 AM
Nah. But you'll rot in hell for lying about me and being evil at your core. Thank God.
Enjoy your respite while you can. Or even better, end it early and do the world a favor.

You are saying I'm cursed like an Egyptian tomb raider based on some posts I made on elfsim forums regarding "Saludeen"?


damn why didn't someone tell me how this shit worked??? selfish pricks.

Saludeen
08-31-2017, 12:12 AM
You are saying I'm cursed like an Egyptian tomb raider based on some posts I made on elfsim forums regarding "Saludeen"?


damn why didn't someone tell me how this shit worked??? selfish pricks.

No



بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
In the name of God, the All-Mighty, the Merciful

39:60 And on the Day of Resurrection you will see those who lied about God, their faces will be darkened. Is there not an abode in Hell for the arrogant ones?

11:8 And if We delay for them the retribution to a near period, they will say: "What has kept it?" Alas, on the day it comes to them, nothing will turn it away from them, and they will be surrounded by that which they used to mock.

35:37 And they will scream in it: "Our Lord, let us out, and we will work righteousness instead of the works we used to do." Did We not give you a long life so that he who would remember would take heed, and a warner came to you? Therefore, taste, for the transgressors will have no supporter.

43:76 And We did not wrong them, but it was they who were the wrongdoers.

43:77 And they called out: "O Malek, please let your Lord terminate us!" He will say: "No, you are remaining."

86:17 So respite the rejecters, respite them for a while.

15:3 Leave them to eat and enjoy, and let them be preoccupied with wishful thinking. They will come to know.

30:57 So on that Day, the excuses of those who transgressed will not help them, nor will they be allowed to return.

39:20 But those who reverence their Lord, they will have dwellings constructed upon dwellings, with rivers flowing beneath them. The promise of God, and God does not break the promise.

39:61 And God will save those who were righteous as their reward. No harm will touch them, nor will they grieve.

hokuten99
08-31-2017, 02:09 AM
as a guild leader on red 99, a box legend, first windstriker outside nihilum (awarded to saporro), First to be crowned outside nihilum (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JNFNHpMddo), best monk on the server (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOy8p0mqD7o), underdog, role model, saint, proud member of azrael, I would say the most important concept in winning meaningful pvp in any game is teamwork. working as a team being able to communicate concisely and efficiently will be the most powerful tool in any engagement.

KEWLGET
08-31-2017, 02:40 AM
lol

MerkelMacron
08-31-2017, 04:02 AM
Its funny you stream PUBG of all games, because only the paranoid survive that one so I am sure you thrive

MerkelMacron
08-31-2017, 04:08 AM
But I should not throw shade

because i rewatched the 2 videos you posted and I genuinly enjoy them lol

its like red99 lore

Tassador
08-31-2017, 06:49 AM
Op needs sone Joel osteen in his life. No one is reading that all pras be to my Jewish brothers and sisters who have to deal with those maniacs on a daily. <3 Mossad

Jibken is not only a box legend, but also made 500 an hour while playing here and boy he played a lot.

Server is just fine. Do not listen to the trolls just log in.

Saludeen
09-01-2017, 09:40 PM
as a guild leader on red 99, a box legend, first windstriker outside nihilum (awarded to saporro), First to be crowned outside nihilum (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JNFNHpMddo), best monk on the server (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOy8p0mqD7o), underdog, role model, saint, proud member of azrael, I would say the most important concept in winning meaningful pvp in any game is teamwork. working as a team being able to communicate concisely and efficiently will be the most powerful tool in any engagement.

Thanks, not sarcasm. I like your vids too. Ever since I ran the best High Warlord group during vanilla WoW on Blackrock i've wanted to get another team going but focus on advanced strats including strict formations and coordinating nukes, etc. But not many people care to take it to that level and there hasn't been a good PVP game since dead99. And it just takes way too long to gear up and be viable in EQ (unless you started at the beginning). I may try to do it in Pantheon though.

MerkelMacron
09-02-2017, 06:19 AM
Why all the talk of Pantheon? its blue as HELL

16.0 Will there be PvP?
Pantheon is primarily a PvE (player vs. environment) game. In fact, when we say ‘environment’, we don’t just mean NPCs, but also contending with climates and atmospheres, the very world itself.

I made it bold just so you realize how blue the nerds in charge are. No PvP, but the WEATHER !

Saludeen
09-02-2017, 08:43 AM
Why all the talk of Pantheon? its blue as HELL

16.0 Will there be PvP?
Pantheon is primarily a PvE (player vs. environment) game. In fact, when we say ‘environment’, we don’t just mean NPCs, but also contending with climates and atmospheres, the very world itself.

I made it bold just so you realize how blue the nerds in charge are. No PvP, but the WEATHER !

YOU'RE NOT EXCITED TO FIGHT AGAINST WEATHER??! IMAGINE THE EPIC BATTLES... STANDING THERE... IN... COLD.. WEATHER... FIGHTING.... ... . IT... .

Seriously though I know but there's no better options. Camelot Unchained looks ok but it doesn't capture that EQ feel like Pantheon does. And they said they'd still have a PVP server. Its too bad there isn't a single dev team in the entire world that can make a "near EQ replica" that would attract new players and revive PVP. Guess its red99 or nothing.

What if everyone just rerolled on blue but agreed to turn in their tomes. Same thing as a wipe right except there's half-NPC bluebies everywhere? Maybe more would join.

KEWLGET
09-02-2017, 04:27 PM
Why all the talk of Pantheon? its blue as HELL

16.0 Will there be PvP?
Pantheon is primarily a PvE (player vs. environment) game. In fact, when we say ‘environment’, we don’t just mean NPCs, but also contending with climates and atmospheres, the very world itself.

I made it bold just so you realize how blue the nerds in charge are. No PvP, but the WEATHER !

no actually brad has explicitly stated that they plan to have at least 1 PvP server on launch and that it would likely be a basic FFA ruleset

Viper7
09-02-2017, 09:58 PM
they have said it even multiple times on streams that there will be a pvp server when people asked questions so yah