Help w/ Twink Warrior Gear - Best Bang For the PP, 50k

[ajdes]

Hey yall, I've been out of the game for a while. I've decided to roll a War to mess around with. I've got about 50k to spend on gear (but I could farm more if its really worthwhile). I'm having a hard time figuring out the most efficient way to spend it. For the purposes of this discussion lets assume I want buy gear to maximize soloing potential all the way into the 50s. Also I want to minimize no trade gear, so I can easily dump it later (i.e. prob not going to bother with Vel MQ armor unless something is really great). I already have a fungi to wear so that doesnt factor into the cost.

Here are a few questions ive run into:
1. Whats the sweet spot for haste vs weapons / armor? For example, I'm guessing a war with 36% haste but no stats / crappy weapons, is going to be worse off than a war with 22% haste w/ nice stats / weps.

2. How good is Cobalt BP heal clicky for soloing? I'm going to be wearing a fungi most of the time, so is the downtime clicky worth 20k (and sacrificing other gear)?

3. Which weapons are worth splurging on? You can get pretty good ratio weapons for
pretty cheap, but obviously the better procs and/or best ratio weapons command a premium. Which ones are worth it?

I've compiled a list of gear that I'm thinking looks relevant. I didnt cover most armor slots, but I picked out most of the big ticket items and weapons which seem important to me. Obviously I cant buy everything with 50k. What would you prioritize? What did I miss on this list? Thanks for reading, and thanks for any suggestions.

Haste:
- Silvery Belt of Contention - 10k - 21%, 10AC, +4 Sta
- SCHW - 2k - 22%, 5AC, +3 sva
- Sash of the Dragonborn - 6k - 24%, 2AC
- RBG - 30k - 27%, 7AC, +8 Str, +8 Sta, +8 Dex, +25 HP
- RBB - 45k - 5AC, +10 Str, +10 Sta, +10 Dex
- Seahorse Spiked Belt - 55k - 34%, 10AC, +4 Str, +4 Sta, +4 Dex, +4 Agi, +25 HP
- Cloak of Crystalline Waters - 55k - 36%, 10AC, +9 Agi, +9 Dex, +15 svf

Chest:
- Cobalt BP - 20k - 45AC, +12 Str, +12 Dex, +12 Sta, +50 HP, Clicky Heal (lvl 45)
- Incarnadine BP - 10k - 35AC, +15 Str, +15 Dex, +25 HP, Clicky Invis
- Enchanted Dwarven Breastplate - 1k - 30AC, +8 Str, +8 Sta, +5 svf
- Fungi (Already Have)

Other Clickies:
- Cobalt Boots - 500p - Clicky Str Buff (lvl 45)
- Cobalt Vambs - 600p - Clicky Shield Buff (lvl 45)
- Cobalt Gaunts - 500p - Clicky Str Buff (lvl 45)

Weapons
- Wurmslayer (Will Quest)
- Winters Fury - 6k - 1HS, 13/23, +6 Str, +25 HP
- Seb Croaking Dirk - 6k - 1HP, 10/18, +2 Agi, + 5 svm, +5 svp
- Fist of Zek - 300 - 1HB, 16/30, +20 Str, -20 Agi, +25 HP
- Jagged Long Sword - 300 - 1HS, 16/30
- Silken Whip of Ensnaring - 200 - 1HS, 14/28, -5 AC, Snare Proc (lvl 50)
- Venomous Axe of the Velium Brood - 1.2k - 1HS, 11/24, 10AC, 85 DD Proc (lvl 1)
- Wrapped Entropy Serpent Spine - 6k - 1HS, 11/23, 12AC, +5 Agi, +5 svm, +5 svp, Blind Proc (lvl 1)
- Blood Fire - 2k - 1HS, 11/24, DoT Proc (lvl 46)
- Frostbringer - 3k - 1HS, 12/22, 7AC, DD Proc (lvl 40)
- Sarnak Warhammer - 600 - 1HB, 9/20, Stun Proc (lvl 46)
- Truncheon of Doom - 9k - 2HB, 33/44, Slow Proc (lvl 50)
- 2x Blood Point - 1.5k per - 1HP, 10/21, +5 Str, +10 svd, +10 svp, Lifetap Proc (lvl 50)
- Staff of Battle - 400 - 2HB, 31/37
- Polished Obsidian Great Axe - 300 - 2HS, 33/48, -10 Dex, -10 Agi, +50 HP, Fear Proc (lvl 40)
- Journeyman's Walking Stick - 300 - 1HB, 9/24, +4 Str, Tash Proc (lvl 35)
- Felhammer - 200 - 2HS, 34/46, Smite Proc (lvl 50)
- Zealot's Incarnadine Sword - 1.5k - 2HS, 26/35, +5 Dex, Lifetap Proc (lvl 50)

Others
- 2x Embalmers Skinning Knife - Summon Bandages Proc (Already Have)
- Fishbone Earring - 3k
- JBoots (Will Farm)
- Tink Bags - 5k
- Root Spider Nets (Will Farm)
- Invis Rings (Will Farm)

[Jimjam]

If you are serious about soloing to 50 you may want to consider rolling gnome for 40% haste click sleeves.

In terms of weapons, are you looking for a set that will take you 1-60, or are you hoping to mix and match as you level up?

For the record, I wouldn't recommend the cobalt gauntlets. It is short duration, some of that time the effect actually lowers the target strength... you are better off just sticking to the self buff boots.

[ajdes]

I am a gnome. Dont mind swapping out or reselling weapons later. I expect I will be carrying at least a bagsworth of them around with me my whole career.

[demokatt]

Me also gnome warrior, currently using wurmslayer + winters fury - works really good - and I still haven't reached level 20 damage cap lift. I cant afford fungi so I have to rely on patience of kind people regen buffs :-) Altough I have noticed that it's quite fun challenging to stay low hp for cripples. If you do find someone that sells the clockwork vambraces please let me know or buy an extra for me will ya? :-)

[Samoht]

First, good DPS weapons can be super cheap. I really love Fist of Zek + Jarsath Trident or a Staff of Battle. A lot of the proc weapons you list don't even proc until after 46 or 50, so using Wurmslayer plus a FoZ with a good haste item and a fungi will get you pretty far. With decent armor and HP, you can solo into the late 40s no problem.

That said, get Velium Fire Wedding rings. That's the number one most important item on a good twink. Don't skimp out and settle for platinum. Velium or bust.

Since you already have the Fungi, I'd say get the RBB, super cheap weapons, Velium Fire Wedding rings, and fill in empty spots with Dwarf cultural armor or Cobalt. If you really wanted to be cheap, you could use Crustacean Shell armor. For ears, Orc Fang Earrings work great for having useful stats that you'll need (AC, HP, STR).

After you get 46, you can join a raiding guild, go to PoSky for a trash belt, and sell the RBB to buy the rest of the stuff you need to tank 50+ like Frostbringer and WESS. I recommend a Lodizal Shell Shield for your back slot. Also, the Incarnadine BP or Cobalt Greaves are pretty important for the unlimited casts of Invisibility, but you could get by with a few Rings of Shadows (http://wiki.project1999.com/Ring_of_shadows) if you are willing to carry a lot of them and recharge them often similar to the Jboots vs SoW pots argument, but Invis does not last nearly as long as SoW.

[Lhancelot]

If you are serious about soloing to 50 you may want to consider rolling gnome for 40% haste click sleeves.

In terms of weapons, are you looking for a set that will take you 1-60, or are you hoping to mix and match as you level up?

For the record, I wouldn't recommend the cobalt gauntlets. It is short duration, some of that time the effect actually lowers the target strength... you are better off just sticking to the self buff boots.

I solo'd to 49 on ogre np. Did snow yetis till they turned green in DL, then farmed sarnak braids to get faction for OT hammer in Overthere. I got to 49 on that quest as it's really really nice XP on the turn ins.

[Qtip]

Get a 32/36 bow, fleeting quiver and 7 10 slot bags and fill with arrows and a jboot MQ.

Kill mobs til you go into beserker. Take fungi off. Then kite mobs around with the bow.

[Cecily]

As someone who carries a lot of weapons that sure seems like a lot of weapons... You pretty much just need a dps set, an agro set, a two hander, and for special purpose items. Lifetap, slow, and tash seem good. Smite and fear I doubt you'll ever use.

[Tupakk]

As someone who carries a lot of weapons that sure seems like a lot of weapons... You pretty much just need a dps set, an agro set, a two hander, and for special purpose items. Lifetap, slow, and tash seem good. Smite and fear I doubt you'll ever use.

I was thinking the same thing lol.

[ajdes]

As someone who carries a lot of weapons that sure seems like a lot of weapons... You pretty much just need a dps set, an agro set, a two hander, and for special purpose items. Lifetap, slow, and tash seem good. Smite and fear I doubt you'll ever use.

Lol, I wasnt actually going to buy all of them, I was just making a list of what might be relevant. Trying to get an idea of what peoples favorites are and which ones are worth the extra PP.

[ajdes]

Get a 32/36 bow, fleeting quiver and 7 10 slot bags and fill with arrows and a jboot MQ.

Kill mobs til you go into beserker. Take fungi off. Then kite mobs around with the bow.

Is this a real thing? It sounds kind of incredible.

[ajdes]

First, good DPS weapons can be super cheap. I really love Fist of Zek + Jarsath Trident or a Staff of Battle. A lot of the proc weapons you list don't even proc until after 46 or 50, so using Wurmslayer plus a FoZ with a good haste item and a fungi will get you pretty far. With decent armor and HP, you can solo into the late 40s no problem.

That said, get Velium Fire Wedding rings. That's the number one most important item on a good twink. Don't skimp out and settle for platinum. Velium or bust.

Since you already have the Fungi, I'd say get the RBB, super cheap weapons, Velium Fire Wedding rings, and fill in empty spots with Dwarf cultural armor or Cobalt. If you really wanted to be cheap, you could use Crustacean Shell armor. For ears, Orc Fang Earrings work great for having useful stats that you'll need (AC, HP, STR).

After you get 46, you can join a raiding guild, go to PoSky for a trash belt, and sell the RBB to buy the rest of the stuff you need to tank 50+ like Frostbringer and WESS. I recommend a Lodizal Shell Shield for your back slot. Also, the Incarnadine BP or Cobalt Greaves are pretty important for the unlimited casts of Invisibility, but you could get by with a few Rings of Shadows (http://wiki.project1999.com/Ring_of_shadows) if you are willing to carry a lot of them and recharge them often similar to the Jboots vs SoW pots argument, but Invis does not last nearly as long as SoW.

Thanks for this analysis. So whats the verdict on the Cobalt BP? Worth sacrificing haste for? I know I cant click it for a while, but I would want to have the cash available so I could purchase one when a good price pops up.

[Lhancelot]

Fungi, Cobalt greaves, Cobalt BP, Frostbringer/Infestation, Quillmane Levi Cloak, Jboots are my favorite items on my warrior - bloodpoints don't proc yet so can't say I favor those but I am guessing they super useful.

[Naethyn]

1. Whats the sweet spot for haste vs weapons / armor? For example, I'm guessing a war with 36% haste but no stats / crappy weapons, is going to be worse off than a war with 22% haste w/ nice stats / weps.
Get the best haste possible. Personally, if you already have a fungi I'd buy velium rings, a jarsath trident, a fist of zek, staff of battle, crusty arms&legs, and then save the rest of your cash to eventually buy a cloak of flames. Nothing beats haste here. The warrior with 36% haste will hold better aggro and do more dps. Make sure to go all your points into STA.

2. How good is Cobalt BP heal clicky for soloing? I'm going to be wearing a fungi most of the time, so is the downtime clicky worth 20k (and sacrificing other gear)?
Don't waste your money on cobalt anything unless it is really cheap to fill a slot for AC. Buy an Incarnadine Breastplate, Grim Skull Earring, Bracer of the Hidden, and probably quest ring 8 before that. Dispell is rampant on this server and you will find yourself annoyed constantly until you can come up with a clicky buff or two.

3. Which weapons are worth splurging on? You can get pretty good ratio weapons for
pretty cheap, but obviously the better procs and/or best ratio weapons command a premium. Which ones are worth it?
Procs dont matter till the mid 40's - mobs die too fast. Holding aggro is much more about positioning, white damage, and root. One of the best parts about warrioring here is the huge assortment of weapons with special procs. Try everything out - that's the point and make sure to set up your hotbars so you can swap weapons on the fly as needed. If you aren't going a large race make sure to buy a Clay Guardian Shield for cheap so you can swap in to bash when you see a spell caster casting.

From level 30 all the way to 49 you get weaker and weaker and most decide to quit. From level 50 on you get stronger and stronger until you are the most powerful class in this version of Everquest.

[Samoht]

Grim Skull Earring, Bracer of the Hidden, and probably quest ring 8 before that. Dispell is rampant on this server and you will find yourself annoyed constantly until you can come up with a clicky buff or two.

This advice is pre-patch and no longer works now that most dispels are random. Only dragon dispel can be reliably predictable to make it useful to have junk buffs in the first few slots.

Thanks for this analysis. So whats the verdict on the Cobalt BP? Worth sacrificing haste for? I know I cant click it for a while, but I would want to have the cash available so I could purchase one when a good price pops up.

I wouldn't get the Cobalt BP for anything more than its stats, especially since you already have a Fungi. Yeah, you can't click it until you're 45, which is not going to be any time soon, but the money is better put into haste because you'll be wearing Fungi all the time. Use Incarnadine for tanking. The stats are close to Cobalt.

[Naethyn]

This advice is pre-patch and no longer works now that most dispels are random. Only dragon dispel can be reliably predictable to make it useful to have junk buffs in the first few slots.

Crap buffs are very useful. I doubt the mechanic you're describing is intentional and it will be changed anyways. Also, this will work for far more then just dragon dispell such as glimmer drakes who proc dispell. Do you really think suggesting not having any type of crap buff is a good idea on this server? I don't.

[Samoht]

Crap buffs are very useful. I doubt the mechanic you're describing is intentional and it will be changed anyways. Also, this will work for far more then just dragon dispell such as glimmer drakes who proc dispell. Do you really think suggesting not having any type of crap buff is a good idea on this server? I don't.

Your reasoning for having junk buffs was wrong. That's all I'm saying. No caster they will run into will dispel the top slot until they're raiding dragons. Casted dispels are random now and are going to stay random. It's not a bug.

[skarlorn]

Is this a real thing? It sounds kind of incredible.

yep but you don't even need a fungi for it. I'd say just get the Exquisite Velium war bow and a ceremonial ikky bp for a bit of regen while you kite. you need jboots or sow pots, a jade mace and another offhand, the haste, then slap on whatever other shit you can for a bit of extra AC/DEX/STR

Crippling Bow warrior is an amazing strategy.

[ajdes]

yep but you don't even need a fungi for it. I'd say just get the Exquisite Velium war bow and a ceremonial ikky bp for a bit of regen while you kite. you need jboots or sow pots, a jade mace and another offhand, the haste, then slap on whatever other shit you can for a bit of extra AC/DEX/STR

Crippling Bow warrior is an amazing strategy.

I am VERY intrigued by this strategy, even just as something different to do occasionally to break up the grind.

Does Fleeting Quiver haste stack with worn haste and spell haste? Seems like a Velium Swiftblade would be ideal for this strat no?

[skarlorn]

I could be totally wrong, but fleeting quiver seems to affect only your ranged haste, so it would be pretty savage if you had that, and a worn haste, and a spell haste lol.

BTW, there's a shaman potion which does a 5 minute haste that's pretty freaking strong. I use it on filbus because i'd rather drop a few hundo plat than camp stormfeather. And with a fast bow, like even bow of the huntsman, you'll be peeling off insane damage.

Finally, your ranged attacks have no damage caps at low level ;)

this is a big deal lol.

[ajdes]

I could be totally wrong, but fleeting quiver seems to affect only your ranged haste, so it would be pretty savage if you had that, and a worn haste, and a spell haste lol.

BTW, there's a shaman potion which does a 5 minute haste that's pretty freaking strong. I use it on filbus because i'd rather drop a few hundo plat than camp stormfeather. And with a fast bow, like even bow of the huntsman, you'll be peeling off insane damage.

Finally, your ranged attacks have no damage caps at low level ;)

this is a big deal lol.

Right, Fleeting Quiver is only ranged haste. But what I'm wondering is if worn haste and spell haste also stack for bow haste. Or, does worn haste not affect ranged?

How many back to back shots are you getting off with the 32/36 bow per pass? I'm wondering if the bow of the underfoot (33/60) would also be viable, similar to like a high dmg jousting weapon. They are pretty easy to get IIRC.

[ajdes]

Ah well I can answer my own haste question. Per the Archery page:

Items that increase ATK do influence archery ATK

Dex affects critical hit rate for archery.
Procs and critical hits are based on dex for both melee and archery.
Critical hit rates for archery on war and rngs = critical hit rates on melee for war (Rangers Archery Crit Hit at Level 17+)
Haste affects bow delay the same way it effects melee.
But archery uses one more kind of haste, stacking with the others : quiver haste (QH). It follows the same rules than all the other kinds of haste : only the best QH is used if more than one apply. To have a QH, you just need to have a Weight Reducing quiver in your inventory.
QH = WR of the quiver / 3.

[Skew]

The 9k for truncheon is well worth it if youre soloing. 50% slow for 3 mins.

[Biddwin]

Your reasoning for having junk buffs was wrong. That's all I'm saying. No caster they will run into will dispel the top slot until they're raiding dragons. Casted dispels are random now and are going to stay random. It's not a bug.

I've noticed today in the past couple of hours of grouping Highkeep goblins everytime I was dispelled it was buff slot one, and when buff slot one was gone and they casted dispel again, buff slot two came off. Happened numerous times, Buff slot one was always the first to go, I would highly recommend junk buff clicks, but OP said they're not planning on grouping and if going solo route, unlikely they will be soloing many casters to begin with.

[skarlorn]

Right, Fleeting Quiver is only ranged haste. But what I'm wondering is if worn haste and spell haste also stack for bow haste. Or, does worn haste not affect ranged?

How many back to back shots are you getting off with the 32/36 bow per pass? I'm wondering if the bow of the underfoot (33/60) would also be viable, similar to like a high dmg jousting weapon. They are pretty easy to get IIRC.

Worn + Spell haste does stack, and I'm guessing that it stacks with the quiver haste.

I have a bow of the underfoot and bow of the huntsman, addt'l i've used the Exquisite Reinforced Velium War Bow.

I would tell you that the underfoot is just too slow. You can pop off SO many shots with a 30 or 36 delay bow that it really becomes a lot more viable as a DPS wep :)

Even for jousting in duels, I don't favor the Underfoot because it causes so much delay before my next weapon swing.

[demokatt]

I like bowkiting on ranger but dunno without snare and root, even with sow you have to run backwards like an idiot running into other mobs and shit

[ajdes]

I like bowkiting on ranger but dunno without snare and root, even with sow you have to run backwards like an idiot running into other mobs and shit

You can use snare/root procs though that is obviously more obnoxious than being able to cast as a ranger. No reason to run backward though, you can still kite in big oval passes, shooting until the mob gets close to you, then running away again. It also makes that snare bow from SG look pretty sexy, though I'm not sure if that is on this server.

[Jimjam]

If Luclin (mounts) comes out you can poop arrows out your ass (equestrian pun) without having to turn as horses give you 360' ranged attack line of sight.

[demokatt]

haha that sounds cool, freaking Zelda action

[Yuuvy The Destroyer]

Luclin

Gross.

[demokatt]

Btw, according to wiki, warriors should mitigate the lowered run speed at low hp but I got mine much slower when running away with 10% health even with sow on.

[skarlorn]

Btw, according to wiki, warriors should mitigate the lowered run speed at low hp but I got mine much slower when running away with 10% health even with sow on.

Yes, they do mitigate lower runspeed. Other classes experience slowdown below 25% hp, significant slowdowns below 20%, and then severe below 10%.

Also, the way to bowkite with a warrior is not to walk backwards. You run forward and then jump and spin 180 and fire a shot, then spin back and land and keep running.

If you aren't that coordinated, it's still pretty easy to stop, turn around, shoot, and keep running.

If you have enough space, you could probably do a large enough oval.

[demokatt]

But why do I then experience sever slowness in running with 10% HP on my warrior? :-)

[Jimjam]

But why do I then experience sever slowness in running with 10% HP on my warrior? :-)

Maybe this is due to low hp agi drop and not due to low hp snare?

[demokatt]

Oh yeah that could be the case, I know I wasn't encumbred but could be that my AGI was to low for some reason.