Druid race query

[nina]

So I'm seeing a ton of hobbit druids and a fair few elfy ones too. I'm not keen on human due to not awesome see in the dark vision and was wondering...
Apart from hairy feet and hobbit holes, is the halfling a better choice or is wood elf be better OR is there really difference?
Thoughts and advice plz

[Heavydrop]

There is some gear that human druids can use that others cannot, but nothing really noteworthy.

Personally, I prefer wood elf for the looks, and that I play mostly in 3rd person view and wood elf suits me the best.

Other than that, I doubt there is any real significant difference.

Half-Elves have the worst starting wisdom cap, but with gear none of that really matters.

[loramin]

Halflings have a racial power that puts them head and shoulders above (not literally of course) humans, elves, and half-elves. That power is a +5% bonus to XP.

Also they get sneak, but personally I never use it.

[Nycon43]

Tunare druids get some nice clickies, something to think about.

[fash]

Halflings get sneak, which is useful for selling to dubious merchants, sneaking through a zone e.g. up the walkway in velks, etc.

Wood Elves have access to some decent Tunare only items e.g. http://wiki.project1999.com/Gloves_of_Earthcrafting

Humans have access to http://wiki.project1999.com/Robe_of_the_Azure_Sky , but that requires playing full neckbeard mode.

[Ravager]

Tunare Druids can quest an unlimited clicky root necklace at like level 30. The only reason to go halfling is for sneak.

Some halfling druids will talk about how incredibly useful that is for getting around dungeons without help, and I imagine it is, but how often does a druid need to get around alone in a dungeon? Most PUGs will clear a path for new members and raids will CoTH people. Sneak can be used to vendor and bank in places they ordinarily wouldn't be able to, but what's the point of that when they can port?

Now compare how often you'd use Sneak to how often you'd cast Root. I'd go with a Tunare race, and Wood Elf comes with Hide.

[Tupakk]

Best exp in the game from halflings. No other race is wortth it.

[Sorn]

The Kelethin theme music is far superior to the Rivervale one. Also, root clicky.

Nothing beats NOT being crotch height to pretty much every other race in the game, though.

[gildor]

root clicky is win....

[Vallanor]

Only humans can display robes properly. Do the right thing.

Correct response.

[Keggernuts]

Best exp in the game from halflings. No other race is wortth it.

Tupakk! But once you hit 60 who cares about so bonus😀

[maskedmelonpai]

Only humans can display robes properly. Do the right thing.

this my thought too. although, i liek wood elfs too. i mean if you gonna have a messed up robe graphic, wood elf better than hobbit :c

[loramin]

But once you hit 60 who cares about so bonus��

And how much of your character's life is spent leveling? Obviously the answer isn't the same for everyone: if this druid will be your main (it didn't sound like it was for OP), and you plan on getting to 60 and raiding, and then you actually go through with your plans, then maybe you'll get to the point where you've spent the majority of your character's life not-leveling.

But if ...


you hit 45 and decide to make the character a Dial a Port druid
you never make it to 60 before quitting the game
you never make it to 60 before switching to an alt
you make it to 60 but then quit/switch to an alt before you've spent as long being at 60 as it took you to get to 60


... then the majority (and probably vast majority) of your characters life will be spent leveling. And IF that's the case (again, not true for everyone) then would you rather be several levels higher or would you rather look good in robes (which you might not even wear if you don't raid) and save 40 mana every now and then when you root stuff with your lowest level root (which you probably won't want to do once you get higher level roots)?

There's a huge focus in this forum on maximizing power at level 60, but that ignores the fact that the vast majority of druids probably won't even make it to 60, let alone take as long of a time playing at 60 as they did leveling to 60.

[Tupakk]

And how much of your character's life is spent leveling? Obviously the answer isn't the same for everyone: if this druid will be your main (it didn't sound like it was for OP), and you plan on getting to 60 and raiding, and then you actually go through with your plans, then maybe you'll get to the point where you've spent the majority of your character's life not-leveling.

But if ...


you hit 45 and decide to make the character a Dial a Port druid
you never make it to 60 before quitting the game
you never make it to 60 before switching to an alt
you make it to 60 but then quit/switch to an alt before you've spent as long being at 60 as it took you to get to 60


... then the majority (and probably vast majority) of your characters life will be spent leveling. And IF that's the case (again, not true for everyone) then would you rather be several levels higher or would you rather look good in robes (which you might not even wear if you don't raid) and save 40 mana every now and then when you root stuff with your lowest level root (which you probably won't want to do once you get higher level roots)?

There's a huge focus in this forum on maximizing power at level 60, but that ignores the fact that the vast majority of druids probably won't even make it to 60, let alone take as long of a time playing at 60 as they did leveling to 60.


Total truth. My Druid has been parked at 45 since I got there. It was sitting at 44 for the longest time til I did stonebrunt pandas. Which a few deaths here and there fix.

Also halflings just look cooler so there's that.

[Keggernuts]

Well said! I'm just a fan of clickies

[Bummey]

Assling is the only answer, for Sneak alone. And good looks. But mostly Sneak.

Also they get sneak, but personally I never use it.

I use sneak all the time, but then again I'm a good player.

[loramin]

Assling is the only answer, for Sneak alone. And good looks. But mostly Sneak.



I use sneak all the time, but then again I'm a good player.

Tell me, how exactly would I use sneak while animal charming (which is basically all I do with my druid)? I want to become a "good player" like you.

[maskedmelonpai]

Tell me, how exactly would I use sneak while animal charming (which is basically all I do with my druid)? I want to become a "good player" like you.

well, not all animals is suceptible to you charms and even lots that are, are maybe skittish or shy and so it hard to work on them before they freak out an run away or try and bite you or somethin, so you gotta sneaks up on them :3

that what I assume he mean. only thing that really sorta make sense to me. otherwise, I dunno ^^

[Bummey]

Tell me, how exactly would I use sneak while animal charming (which is basically all I do with my druid)? I want to become a "good player" like you.

Hey, if you want to take a snarky jab literally, how about... There's way more to do as a druid than just charm animals. If that's all you do, I'd say you're missing out on a lot of the class's utility, on top of the huge breadth of everquest gameplay you're not partaking in.

[loramin]

Hey, if you want to take a snarky jab literally, how about... There's way more to do as a druid than just charm animals. If that's all you do, I'd say you're missing out on a lot of the class's utility, on top of the huge breadth of everquest gameplay you're not partaking in.

... or maybe you could just refrain from assuming that everyone who doesn't play the way you do is a bad player?

[Doctor Jeff]

You could sneak pull on races that had the skill innately. That is no longer the case so the advice doesn't really apply.

You can still sneak pull, Moran.

[Triiz]

Don't most druids solo level outdoors at lower levels and can just use OP unresistable lvl 5 Harmony? Or I assume if a druid was in a group indoors they usually wouldn't be pulling.

I'm interested to hear how often Halfling Druid's use sneak vs. Tunare druid's with root neck/eventually DS gloves. I think if I was going to start a Druid today I'd go for Tunare, even though Grasping Roots doesn't take that much mana having unlimited clicky root without taking up a spell gem seems extremely useful.

[loramin]

even though Grasping Roots doesn't take that much mana having unlimited clicky root without taking up a spell gem seems extremely useful.

Keep in mind you're talking about a 4 second cast time when using the necklace (vs. half that if you cast the spell normally), for at best a 36 second root. Compare that to higher level roots you can cast: even just the level 24 root lasts almost 3x as long (1.6 minutes), and the higher level ones can cast faster or last even longer.

I've never actually had the Tunare symbol, so I can't speak from experience, and of course there will be times when all you need is a short duration root and you don't mind spending a couple extra seconds for it. All I'm saying is, it's still a level five spell that takes twice as long as normal to cast, so when you get higher in level you may find that it doesn't actually save you a spell slot because you want/need a better root.

[Lhancelot]

I find the Tunare necklace underwhelming for all the reasons Loramin mentioned.

Basically over time I have come to appreciate halfling mojo. Sneak and hide add to that mojo.

[Ravager]

I really like the clicky root. With that, the snare gloves and dot arms, a druid can kill (albeit slowly) anything that doesn't summon. It's very nice not having to abandon a kill because you ran out of mana from resists or fizzles.

Not trying to be snarky, but you should really try the necklace before you judge its usefulness. I use it all the time on my druid and can't think of a single time I lamented not having sneak on that same druid.

High level roots cost a lot in terms of mana. Mobs can break those roots too.

[loramin]

Not trying to be snarky, but you should really try the necklace before you judge its usefulness.

I'm not re-rolling my level 45 druid for a level 5 root clickie :p

But look I never said it wasn't useful; in fact I said quite the opposite:

of course there will be times when all you need is a short duration root and you don't mind spending a couple extra seconds for it

My point was just that having the symbol doesn't mean you can forever free up your root spell slot, because there are legit reasons why you'd still want to cast other roots even if you have it.

[Doctor Jeff]

I'm not re-rolling my level 45 druid for a level 5 root clickie :p

I see a lot of people talk about reroll like you have to delete a character to do it.
Accounts are infinite and free of charge, just make more characters...

[Lhancelot]

I see a lot of people talk about reroll like you have to delete a character to do it.
Accounts are infinite and free of charge, just make more characters...

I hate changing accounts back and forth, and try to focus on one account. I have deleted many a toon that was partially developed which I just no longer enjoyed playing.

I like starting new toons, and have even started my third druid now to lvl up. It's my favorite class to level as I am motivated to do a third one, this time being a halfling. That or it's a sickness...

Gatmanno has inspired me, I have to be honest! I love how he looks. No robe, no matter, halfling druids look really cool.

I deleted a 29 wizard to make room for my newest alt addition. :p

[Nagoya]

lvl 53 halfling druid and lvl 19 half-elf druid here.

halfling sneak is a joke. if you ever use it it is only as a gimmick. not because sneak is useless, but because sneak (50) is very unreliable, and the only thing you're gonna do with such an reliable skill is to bank/vendor at places you wouldn't otherwise. and druids can teleport anytime from anywhere to rivervale in 15 seconds. please tell me a relevent scenario for sneak.

halfling 5%xp is also a joke. EQ is about the journey. The more you group the less actual 5% that 5% is, and even in solo, it means you gain say 10 levels in 19 hours instead of 20 hours. big effin' deal.

hide is actually "cool" - a bit like sneak, it's just a gimmick, but at least you can use it to perma-afk med in one spot while going to the bathroom or washing the dishes or something, without having to port or go somewhere safe. you can also break charm with it if you don't have the goblin ring and are willing to try 10 attempts of hide to success (once again, 50 is low).

lastly for the halflings, they are small. which would be nice in theory, i like small races, mroe visibility, you can enter the hole without help etc. however druids get wolf form, so moot again.

as for the clicky root, well i have never used it myself. however... i know as a 53 druid that grasping root is the root you keep using all the time always. basically going up in level you keep two roots on your spellbook, the latest one in case you need longer roots (more damage), usually in groups where you have to ghetto CC, or solo root rotting sometimes... and then your grasping root, because it has a faster casting time and low mana cost. the length of the root is irrelevent. i mean, as long as it let's you go away, or cast another spell, or whatever you have to do. the only important thing is to root the mob, and for this you need to be able to cast it even when oom (35 mana is one tick even if completely oom) and you need the fastest casting time you can get! and for this Grasping Root hardcast is king (until level 56 iirc), and honestly that part is much more important than the 35 mana! Long story short, a 4 second CT Grasping Roots sounds like garbage to me. The "free" spell slot is nice, i guess, but i wouldn't want my roots to take 4sec to cast ouch no thank you o_o ... root is one spell you cast A LOT, and many times when you (or groupmate) are in deep sh!t, and you need it to work, and cast it thrice in a row cause it gets resisted or breaks etc. fast root is your lifeline. don't compromise on cast time.

so back on topic...

wisdom will be capped at some point (and by "capped" i mean somewhere above 200 and by at some point i mean at lvl 45+) whatever race you play and that doesn't make that much of a difference tbh. Anyone who played a druid a bit knows that we are ALWAYS low on mana. we have nothing to keep our mana up until PotG at level 60, and we are always casting spells, like non stop all the time. even when medding up we're somehow refreshing buffs, casting SoW on travelers, Teleporting, killing that green mob on track just cause sometimes it drops X, etc. a full mana druid is a liar or a bad druid ^^ and as we all know by now, high wisdom only means more total mana, which is only relevent when you're FM and you go down to OOM. So obviously relevent, and it's probably your primary statistic don't get me wrong, but in all reality that happens basically never. you will be somewhere between 80m and 5m 95% of your time on the server. Chill down with the WISDOM.

i think your only choice for a druid race is to go fashionquest. that's really the only thing.

Sheer look is subjective, anyway druids look like naked hobos for most of their lives until raid gear and level 56+, but i would personnaly rank them like this;
Human > Wood Elf > Half Elf > Halfling
My halfling druid is the ugliest toon i have ever played, on any game, any concept, any era, any format, any genre. There is nothing uglier in this universe than a ugly naked halfling druid. honestly. biggest regret in my EQ carreer :p

then in terms of objective stat, we have originality, and that would probably go like this;
Half-Elf (Male) >*Half-Elf (Female) >*Human (Male) > Human (Female) > Wood Elf (Male) > Halfling (Female) >*Wood Elf (Female) > Halfling (Male)
Halflings and Wood Elves are everywhere, it is the two most played race/class combination on the server by a big margin. you will be one lost soul in a huge ocean of 100% lookalike copycats (remember the 'naked hobo' part).

Humans are blind as mole. That is probably a real flaw. It gets quite dark on human view.

TL;DR
For me the clear winner is Half-Elf. Half-Elf Druid FTW. Go for Half-Elf @OP.

[GreldorEQ]

I have been a Halfling Druid here for a long time, and I'd like to weigh in on some things:

HIDE - The number 1 ability for any caster who likes/needs to AFK. You can't beat it, AFK while regening mana! Its safe, and its free, and it doesn't drop unexpectedly. I use it every single day.

Secondly, I have used this skill for charm break throughout my time here. Sure it takes a few tries sometimes, but its like having a spell slot free, not working every time is a minor inconvenience. The ring or a cast will not make you magically able to clear all the bears solo a ton faster.

SNEAK - I use this skill all the time, in adventuring and raiding. Sure its gimmicky for vendoring, but its a suvivability tool! It has helped me to survive raid wipes and position for tricky pulls. If you're not much for adventuring and thinking outside the box, then I can see how this would not appeal to you.

Tunare Clickies - at 60, with some reasonably decent gear and a mana pool somewhere between 3500-3800 depending on the encounter, these don't matter. I can cast grasping roots all day long if I need/want to, and thorns is a minor convenience. I could see someone who PLs frequently for cash this one being somewhat valuable.

STATS - Doesn't matter in the least imo. With the above stated mana pool, I find that gaining more mana has a very marginal gain vs. effort. Sure it would be nice to be able to cast 4 POTGs when I need to span group heals, but 4800 mana is a tall order and I can't think of a significant reason otherwise to push for more.

As many have stated before, play the race you can stand to look at if you plan on sticking around long term.

[Lhancelot]

As many have stated before, play the race you can stand to look at if you plan on sticking around long term.

This is the most truthful comment. ^^^

*Unless!!!!! You are an OCD min/max type player that can't stand the thought of having less stats due to being a "weaker" race. If stats are the most important thing to you, then you need to just create a toon based on the race that is touted as the min/max race.

**Determine the type of player you are, and create the character based on that determination.

[Swish]

Mine is a half elf, #noregrets

[NegaStoat]

Halfling Sneak has let me use vendors I would normally not be able to use, turn in quest items as Indiff, and carefully navigate around Undead creatures I might not have Invis vs Undead to use against. If you can stand looking like a Halfling, it's a very powerful ability when you have ample time to click the button to get a success on its use.

[Ravager]

Druids port and have vendors at the rings they port to, so sneak vendoring isn't that big a deal, also can just port to Misty to bank. Wood Elves have racial hide, so they can turn in quest items as indifferent too. Clicky root necklace rules. Anyone who says it's overrated hasn't used it to its potential. Wood Elf is the answer.

[Nagoya]

This is the most truthful comment. ^^^

*Unless!!!!! You are an OCD min/max type player that can't stand the thought of having less stats due to being a "weaker" race. If stats are the most important thing to you, then you need to just create a toon based on the race that is touted as the min/max race.

**Determine the type of player you are, and create the character based on that determination.

i think the "OCD min/maxer" knows fully that they will have all stats they need capped at some point in the near future. the only thing they will never get is hide/sneak and following tunare if they didn't pick that at selection. so "OCD min/maxer" will probably pick halfling, less probably wood elf.

but i think the topic has the answer in the addition of all the contributions: on one side people defend Sneak, on another people defend 4sec free root clicky, and on the last side people say go with the aesthetics.

Then as you said, know what kind of player you are and pick accordingly. But please remember that nobody nowhere ever talked about starting stats :p

[Samoht]

turn in quest items as Indiff

This alone is why Halfling is the most powerful race in the game.

[Lhancelot]

But please remember that nobody nowhere ever talked about starting stats :p

Not all "min/max" players raid or have access to BIS gears or even decent droppable gears. So choosing a race based on starting stats can influence this type of player.

[Nagoya]

Nah -- that was my point exactly :) I am "this type of player" and I still think that stats are very overrated. Enough STR to carry your gear plus some, 75 AGI/DEX, then highish WIS and you'll be super fine, then HP, AC and Resists on equipment will help you more, and clickies and stuff like this. But yeah no, my point was not that end game raiding will take care of stats, but that stats should really not determine what race you pick.

Warrior gnome vs ogre ok it's debatable, but the four druid races have very similar stats.

Even if you're not a raid guy willing to sink 40 hours a week in p99 I think you should pick your druid race based on look > sneak vs no sneak > tunare elf cultural.

[ErlickBachman]

Just go with Tunare Wood Elf. Clicky Root and Earthcraft Gloves are where its at.

[Lhancelot]

Just go with Tunare Wood Elf. Clicky Root and Earthcraft Gloves are where its at.

...Also wood elves have nice starting stats.

But! Halflings get hide/sneak and are cute.

....Hold on; humans get dragonhelms AND can be Tunare worshippers!!!!

Wait! Half elves are not very commonly played, and wear bell bottoms AND can worship Tunare!!!!!!!

Shoot.... It's tough when you are indecisive and want every racial treat all in one race.

[Ravager]

This alone is why Halfling is the most powerful race in the game.
Wood elves can do this too, however.

[Nagoya]

Wood-elves no sneaks - he talkin' sneaks.

[Ravager]

He's talking about handing in quest items and being indifferent to the mob. Wood elves have racial hide and can do this.

You can hide after opening the trade box and it won't break hide when you click trade. Additionally, if you have a friend who can cast invis or ivu on you while you have the trade box open, you can do indifferent turn-ins with any race/class.

So it's really not all that advantageous to play a smelly hobbit.

[Nagoya]

Fair enough, good point :)
I share your hatred of the hairy-footy garbage race that is the Halfling, you have good taste sir.

[loramin]

He's talking about handing in quest items and being indifferent to the mob. Wood elves have racial hide and can do this.

You can hide after opening the trade box and it won't break hide when you click trade. Additionally, if you have a friend who can cast invis or ivu on you while you have the trade box open, you can do indifferent turn-ins with any race/class.

So it's really not all that advantageous to play a smelly hobbit.

But the key difference is that a sneaking halfling can trade/bank with KOS mobs (as long as he can stay out of their line of sight), whereas a wood elf would get killed the moment they got close (ie. before they could hide), right? Unless they have a friend invis them, but I'm not sure how helpful that would be given that racial hide only works 1 in every 4 or 5 time, and you can't check whether hide succeeded or not while invis.

Or am I missing something? (Genuine question: I personally never use hide/sneak on my halfling.)

[Ravager]

But the key difference is that a sneaking halfling can trade/bank with KOS mobs (along as he can stay out of their line of sight), whereas a wood elf would get killed the moment they got close (ie. before they could hide) right? Unless they have a friend invis them, but I'm not sure how helpful that would be given that racial hide only works 1 in every 4 or 5 time, and you can't check whether hide succeeded or not while invis.

Or am I missing something?

They have harmony for outside, corners to hide behind for inside and ports for the bank.

You can check if hide worked by simply conning the mob. It will say indifferent if it worked.

Sneak is more convenient yes, but you're weighing that against an unlimited clicky root that you can have at level 30. So, I guess it's what you think you'd find more utility with. For me it's the root.

How many indifferent quests are you really doing over the 60 levels of your druid where sneak is that important? How many merchants and banks in KOS areas are you really going to visit that sneaking around trying to not get caught is more convenient than a simple port/gate? How many times will you go oom and a click root would be handy instead of running for the zoneline? Especially for soloing druids, the clicky root is an amazing recovery tool for when you get adds or a ton of resists.

[loramin]

You can check if hide worked by simply conning the mob. It will say indifferent if it worked.

Totally, but when you're invis the mob already counts as indifferent, so I wasn't clear on how a friend invising you would help (since you would have no way of knowing whether or not the hide worked until you broke invis ... and with racial hide the odds aren't in your favor).

[Ravager]

Totally, but when you're invis the mob already counts as indifferent, so I wasn't clear on how a friend invising you would help (since you would have no way of knowing whether or not the hide worked until you broke invis ... and with racial hide the odds aren't in your favor).

The way the trick works is this:

Step 1.) Open the trade box. This can be done from around a corner, or even far away enough from the mob if it's kos so it doesn't aggro you in 3rd person view.

Step 2.) Hide/Invis. If hiding, just con the mob to see if you're indifferent, if not, try again. Usually only takes a couple of tries if it doesn't work the first time. If a friend is invising you, tell them to invis you after you've opened the trade box. The mob will be indifferent unless of course it sees invis.

Step 3.) Hit trade. Hide and invis will not break if you've opened the trade box before hiding or going invis.

Like I said, it's just about how much utility you think you'd get from a root necklace vs sneaking. For me, I just can't think of many quests where the convenience of sneak is crucial nor do I think I'd ever do them so often that I'd give up the clicky. Sneaking around a dungeon might be fun, but I have a rogue for that. And vendoring and banking for a druid are literally just a click away.

[Samoht]

You can get root from a spell gem. You can get invis from a spell gem. You cannot get sneak from a spell gem.

[Ravager]

I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing sneak's usefulness to a druid. Niche situations at best.

[loramin]

The way the trick works is this:
So the invis is instead of, not in addition to, using hide: that makes much more sense. Thanks for the explanation.

[mefdinkins]

I really like the clicky root. With that, the snare gloves and dot arms, a druid can kill (albeit slowly) anything that doesn't summon. It's very nice not having to abandon a kill because you ran out of mana from resists or fizzles.

Not trying to be snarky, but you should really try the necklace before you judge its usefulness. I use it all the time on my druid and can't think of a single time I lamented not having sneak on that same druid.

High level roots cost a lot in terms of mana. Mobs can break those roots too.

seconded, I don't have the root necklace on my druid that was created like 10 years ago maybe I should work on that ahahah. Howveer, the level 5 root is really helpful for charming in tight areas. Toss on the 30 second root, med for 10 seconds, debuff, charm,buff, buff, buff and boom root wears off and you have a pet in tight quarters. I do that now while swapping out a bunch of spells. Not end of the world but just another thing i have to think about.

awesome for some of the high end charm killing druids can do or even leveling in perma bear pits. it's always safer to have shit rooted around you so having a free one is a major plus .

[GreldorEQ]

Not at 60 - perhaps before, but not at 60. Cancel magic is in my charm lineup at 60, or in my swap spot for sure. There is 100% no need for craproot at lvl 60 unless youre on CC duty.

edit: as in 3 min root, charm, cancel root, win

[Samoht]

Not at 60 - perhaps before, but not at 60.

Probably not at any level, really. The root is crap. It takes too long to cast, and it doesn't last very long.

[Jimjam]

I saw a wood elf druid killing frost giants the other day.

Was root rot/nuking with root neck, ES vambraces and nuking with lumni staff.

She joked it saved her mana to cast SoW on passing warriors.

[Samoht]

I saw a wood elf druid killing frost giants the other day.

Was root rot/nuking with root neck, ES vambraces and nuking with lumni staff.

She joked it saved her mana to cast SoW on passing warriors.

There are so many things wrong with this story. Lol.

[deadlycupcakez]

I saw a wood elf druid killing frost giants the other day.

Was root rot/nuking with root neck, ES vambraces and nuking with lumni staff.

She joked it saved her mana to cast SoW on passing warriors.

I hope she had them snared with gloves in case of root breaks

[mefdinkins]

Not at 60 - perhaps before, but not at 60. Cancel magic is in my charm lineup at 60, or in my swap spot for sure. There is 100% no need for craproot at lvl 60 unless youre on CC duty.

edit: as in 3 min root, charm, cancel root, win

I sort of disagree and sometimes I pull with snare, glamour of Tunare, then Root, 36 makes sense with this. In really tight quarters you don't want to have to sit down to change spell slots for buffs and keeping neck would be easier than keeping cancel magic up.

[loramin]

I saw a wood elf druid killing frost giants the other day.

Was root rot/nuking with root neck, ES vambraces and nuking with lumni staff.

She joked it saved her mana to cast SoW on passing warriors.

I would think that would be very slow leveling compared to actually using mana (and I have a 46 druid with all those things except the root necklace).

[Baler]

The only druid race that matters is the one that can cast POTG.

[Lhancelot]

The only druid race that matters is the one that can cast POTG.

That was clever, I must admit. And true. :p

[Ravager]

I would think that would be very slow leveling compared to actually using mana (and I have a 46 druid with all those things except the root necklace).

Even if it takes you 5 minutes to kill something with clickies, you're still coming out ahead, since it'll take you 10 minutes to med to full.

[Lhancelot]

Even if it takes you 5 minutes to kill something with clickies, you're still coming out ahead, since it'll take you 10 minutes to med to full.

Honestly what kind of druid root rots...? :confused:

Quad as a druid, or charm kill stuff! If you going to sit and med, you might as well kill 4 mobs at one time between meds, or pretend to be a chanter and charm kill.

[Swish]

A druid who's watching something on Netflix at the same time.

Not to say you can't quad and be doing other stuff but don't bring people down for root rotting, works for shamans <3

[GreldorEQ]

Shamans have Canni, necros have lich, tremendously more efficient root rotting. Pre 60 druids have no additional mana regen of consequence.

All that aside grasping roots is what 10 mana???? Sitting for grasping roots mana has not killed me in my years here as far as I can recall.

It is really not a big deal, at all. Its like saying the Clinging Darkness clickie on a shaman is still super valuable at 60, its just not.

Sneak and Hide or the racial traits to focus on for Dru, Hide being the more valuable of the two.

[Lhancelot]

A druid who's watching something on Netflix at the same time.

Not to say you can't quad and be doing other stuff but don't bring people down for root rotting, works for shamans <3

Juat pointing out that quadding and charm killing is way more efficient than root rotting as druid.

Don't try to convolute my point here, we talking about druids not shamans.

***I forgot, I actually knew a guy that did root rotting majority of the time on his druid. It was because he wasn't very good at quadding so he did root rotting as it was easier for him. he also did have times whe he had to afk, so it helped him then too. It's much harder to manage a quad or charms when you have a sudden AFK pop up.

[Ravager]

Clickies don't cost mana and you never have to sit. Why quad kite when you can oct root rot? Why not root rot while you quad kite?

[Lhancelot]

Clickies don't cost mana and you never have to sit. Why quad kite when you can oct root rot? Why not root rot while you quad kite?

This would be bad synergy. When I quad, I am not trying to poke around and find solo mobs to root rot while I got a quad going.

Also, often times you quad in large open areas where mobs wander, and if you got mobs parked in random spots there's a chance a wandering mob will walk by it and social aggro you.

I just can't see quadding and root rotting at the same time. Heck, if you want to do this, why not charm kill stuff too while you root rotting and quadding, do it all at one time. :D