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Furiant
07-12-2017, 12:55 AM
So I have been playing a necro for a couple of hours and noticed that several things, including zoning, will despawn my pet. I gave the pet some equipment and when I zoned, I had hoped that the new pet would spawn *with all that equipment*, but this was not the case.

So, am I correct in assuming that anything I give my pet is lost forever when I zone?

Heavydrop
07-12-2017, 01:03 AM
Yep.

Anything you give a summoned pet is gone for good, whether you zone or not.

A charmed pet you can kill and get the stuff back from.

For now, I don't think giving a pet any gear really matters except for:
Some weapons and Muzzle of Mardu (summoned pet haste item)

Armor doesn't mean anything to give to a pet, as far as I know for now

Troxx
07-12-2017, 01:09 AM
Not true. Pets will wear armor and it has a dramatic impact on their survivability. Whether or not it's worth it to give your pet gear ... in general no. If you're hunting somewhere that drops ringmail, bronze, patchwork etc that will otherwise rot and you're going to keep the pet a while - possibly. High level people looking to maintain a single pet to tank for them (summoned or charmed) - might be worth it to carry a few pieces around.

For the enchanter/cleric or ench/sham duos out there - totally worth it to carry around a set of bronze. The pet will mitigate much better and you can snag the gear off the mob when you're done using it.

Furiant
07-12-2017, 01:49 AM
Thanks for the help guys.

Tann
07-12-2017, 08:47 AM
sub lv39 summon just give pet a torch and call it a day.

isoka
07-12-2017, 10:42 AM
sub lv39 summon just give pet a torch and call it a day.

This shall be done for pets which can dual wield. Unfortunately, it is not the case for early ones.

However, giving a 2H weapon such as rusty halberd or a greatstaff with 9 or 10 damage on it will make your early pets hit stronger than without weapon till their innate damage is higher than 20s

Heavydrop
07-12-2017, 11:27 PM
Not true. Pets will wear armor and it has a dramatic impact on their survivability. Whether or not it's worth it to give your pet gear ... in general no. If you're hunting somewhere that drops ringmail, bronze, patchwork etc that will otherwise rot and you're going to keep the pet a while - possibly. High level people looking to maintain a single pet to tank for them (summoned or charmed) - might be worth it to carry a few pieces around.

For the enchanter/cleric or ench/sham duos out there - totally worth it to carry around a set of bronze. The pet will mitigate much better and you can snag the gear off the mob when you're done using it.

Good to know.
I'll start feeding my pet armor to use

mickmoranis
07-13-2017, 12:37 AM
yeah I wonder what beninfit umbra gives, tecmos, IM sure you parsed it, how much protection does umbra provide to a pet?

mickmoranis
07-13-2017, 12:39 AM
Not true. Pets will wear armor and it has a dramatic impact on their survivability. Whether or not it's worth it to give your pet gear ... in general no. If you're hunting somewhere that drops ringmail, bronze, patchwork etc that will otherwise rot and you're going to keep the pet a while - possibly. High level people looking to maintain a single pet to tank for them (summoned or charmed) - might be worth it to carry a few pieces around.

For the enchanter/cleric or ench/sham duos out there - totally worth it to carry around a set of bronze. The pet will mitigate much better and you can snag the gear off the mob when you're done using it.

there are some good -5 pants and sleeves that also provide ac from stonebront (that you cant get easily cus trivial loot code is the devil)

Heavydrop
07-13-2017, 10:51 AM
Something of note that I have noticed, and if there is any correction about it please do so.

If you give a charmed pet a no drop weapon, and it might happen with armor too, they do not use it. It just goes poof.



That is probably to keep people from looting something in a high level area, such as the planes, and then charming an orc pawn to give it that item and then to let someone else loot it.

As far as summoned pets go, since anything given to them doesn't come back, I believe they can use no drop items.

Tecmos Deception
07-13-2017, 12:39 PM
yeah I wonder what beninfit umbra gives, tecmos, IM sure you parsed it, how much protection does umbra provide to a pet?

I haven't actually sat down and tested this stuff, and it's too much of a pain to try to sort through logs where I wasn't intentionally setting up to test it.

But yeah, sooner or later I'm gonna convince a cleric to help me watch pet damage and tanking.

Triiz
07-13-2017, 12:44 PM
there are some good -5 pants and sleeves that also provide ac from stonebront (that you cant get easily cus trivial loot code is the devil)

Even if someone can get xp/loot off the named's, I'd recommend just buying the Astral legs/cloak and I'm usually a proponent of farming your own stuff when you can. I tried to use Song of Highsun to "figure it out" a few weeks ago. The spawn points appear to be random as shit, the PH's are definitely random as shit, the possible spawn area is massive, the PH's basically roam the entire northern part of the zone, and the quest pieces aren't a guaranteed drop.

If you don't have a bard to zoom around with max selo speed, AOE all the possible PH's + a combination of track and pet track, I can't even imagine how much more of a pain in the ass it would be unless you get extremely lucky.

I usually find it entertaining to figure out outdoor spawn cycles, but screw that place.

Edit: Forgot to mention, the one quest there that may be worth doing for Enchanter is Purified Crystal Dagger (https://wiki.project1999.com/Purified_Crystal_Dagger), the best droppable +CHA Range in the game according to wiki. Not an easy quest at all though, the Crystallized Shadow Dagger from TOFS is an ultra-rare trash drop from TOFS named mobs as far as I can tell, and then you have to spawn a specific Stonebrunt named to finish it. That's what I was originally doing when I decided I'd try for the Astral pieces.

mickmoranis
07-13-2017, 03:20 PM
The quest was so dumb, I took my 54 druid out there, killed 4/6 mobs and then found out the last one was green and the loot was trivial, so I couldn't complete the quest.

I want to punch whoever came up with trivial loot code in the face.